Todd McShay's Final 2011 NFL Mock Draft: Blaine Gabbert To The 49ers....Again
by David Fucillo on Apr 28, 2011 10:11 AM PDT
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PrintTodd McShay released what appears to be the final Scouts Inc 2011 NFL mock draft and once again, somebody else is jumping on the Blaine Gabbert-49ers bandwagon. Really Todd? Really? That now means Mel Kiper, Todd McShay, Rick Gosselin, and Mike Mayock are ALL projecting Blaine Gabbert to the 49ers. They're making as many guesses as the rest of us, so take it with a grain of salt, but that's quite the consensus I'd say.
In releasing this mock, McShay and his staff went the extra mile to put together a complete seven round mock from Cam Newton at number one to Da'Rel Scott at number 254 as Mr. Irrelevant. Here's a rundown of the 49ers twelve selections in McShay's Mock:
No. 7: QB Blaine Gabbert, Missouri
No. 45: OLB Jabaal Sheard, Pittsburgh
No. 76: CB Joshua Thomas, Buffalo
No. 108: RB Shane Vereen, California
No. 115: WR Dwayne Harris, East Carolina
No. 141: S Jeron Johnson, Boise State
No. 174: FB Owen Marecic, Stanford
No. 190: NT Jerrell Powe, Mississippi
No. 210: OG Garrett Chisolm, South Carolina
No. 230: OLB Derrell Smith, Syracus
No. 238: ILB Alex Wujciak, Maryland
No. 249: WR Kris Durham, Georgia
That's quite the mix of players. In assessing this mock, I think position-wise it hits on some important needs. The one change I'd make is grabbing a second cornerback, possibly in place of one of the wide receivers. Otherwise, McShay hits on the 49ers various position of needs. Of course, that doesn't mean I like the actual players selected. I do like some of these picks, including Vereen, Marecic and Powe. Guys like Dwayne Harris and Jeron Johnson are also intriguing, but seeing Gabbert at the top just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I know some disagree with that assessment.
Over at SB Nation Bay Area, Ninjames is helping out with draft coverage and in looking over the McShay Mock, he graded it somewhere in the range of B- to C-. How would you grade it?
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JESUS FOOCH YOU FAIL SO HARD
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Give a "C"
Not big on Gabbert under emphasizes secondary needs
This actually looks pretty solid....
I’d change the top 3 to Quinn, Dowling/House, Stanzi and then it would be a solid haul. That being dependent on if we could get Dalton in the 2nd, then I’d bump CB back to the 3rd and take Thomas or another player that slid a bit out of the 2nd.
He actually does address quite a bit of our needs in this mock
Wow! I pretty much stopped reading when I got to the third pick ...
Other than QB, our most significant need is CB. So, who does McShay select? In the THIRD rounds he gives us a guy who is ranked as the 30th best CB in the draft! Ranked as the 247th best player in the draft! WTF? Unfortunately, typical of McShay’s skillset.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Apr 28, 2011 10:23 AM PDT reply actions
I don't like it. I don't want Gabbert and I don't want to wait until Rd3 to get a CB.
and, um, PATRICK PETERSON WAS STILL ON THE BOARD WHEN GABBERT WAS PICKED.
No way that happens.
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My God, you're right! Want to see an NFL head coach doing back flips??
Gary Kubiak goes wild when PATRICK PETERSON FALLS TO HOUSTON AT PICK #11!!!!!
Flush this mock! Fortunately, the real thing is coming in a few hours!
by 49erFanSince1950 on Apr 28, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
you sure he wasn't implying that Houston moves up to #5 to take Peterson?
because he has Aldon Smith going to Arizona at 5.
by eastbayglory on Apr 28, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
He said he thinks Houston trades up...
But that it would be a dream scenario to have Peterson fall to them @ #11! NO FRICKIN’ WAY that happens! Top 10 players don’t fall out of the Top 10!
He doesn't fall out of the top 10
He’s saying that Peterson goes at 5 to Houston, that Houston and Arizona swap picks.
by eastbayglory on Apr 28, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
McShay sucks at his job
"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."
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"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."
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I also think Gabbert is the 7th guy off the board
I’m not certain Harbaugh and Baalke won’t go down a bit if it’s true though.
Trade down is actually the best thing to do with this pick.
The consolation prize to not getting Patrick Peterson could be Jimmy Smith and a third round pick. That’s not so bad.
It's about having the kind of faith that makes all the "what if's" irrelevant - Jim Harbaugh 2011
Frank Gore has earned his place among the great running backs of the NFL - Pat Willie on NN
That doesn’t sound right. I mean trade down, not go down.
It's about having the kind of faith that makes all the "what if's" irrelevant - Jim Harbaugh 2011
Frank Gore has earned his place among the great running backs of the NFL - Pat Willie on NN
If it's for the good of the team...
but then I have a reading problem...
by Bob In Beaverton on Apr 28, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Whisful thinking
This is a plot by our front office who spreads the word that we’re hot on gabbert so that the redsking will make a trade with anyone from buffalo to clevlend for him. and maybe that will cause PP to fall right into our laps
by Roy_from_Israel on Apr 28, 2011 10:28 AM PDT reply actions
I've read that the front office is "lukewarm" on Gabbert
My take on their posturing is they don’t want to appear eager, because they want him. (Because I think they’re resigned to the fact that Peterson and maybe even Quinn will be gone by pick 7)
by eastbayglory on Apr 28, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Not likely...
Gabbert’s visit was too last minute to take seriously. It’s posturing so they can sell a trade. Probably because they feel that Miller and Peterson will be gone and Quinn and Prince aren’t worth the #7 pick.
by Thrashard340 on Apr 28, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Sending Gabbert to us with Peterson still on the board seems like a huge fail to me…
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by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 28, 2011 10:31 AM PDT reply actions
If Mayock is on the bandwagon
I’m on the bandwagon. Dude is usually money. ESPN reporting that Houston is talking with Arizona about moving up for PP, ugh…
7 SF - WR AJ Green, Georgia - BPA.
That's why we need to move up to Cincy's pick
and get Palmer thrown in!
Cincy might as well do it, he’s just going ot retire and not play anyway if they don’t move him.
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by mrg80 on Apr 28, 2011 11:12 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Palmer hasn't played well for the last couple years. I would rather we draft the best QB who fits Harbaugh's needs and grab a FA vet QB
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Ummm, Andrew Luck isn't in this draft
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by ToddCommish on Apr 28, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
What if the best QB who fits Harbaugh's needs is Andrew Luck or Matt Barkley?
If we’re going to grab a FA vet QB anyway, waiting until next year to get a QB is perfectly fine, and there are plenty of other holes on the team that can be filled with draft picks this year — like CB and LB.
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We can't wait until next year.. that would be a fail. Also, next year the good QBs will probably be gone before we pick, unless we totally tank this year
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Why can't we wait until next year?
Getting a QB in this draft is not going to put this team over the top and into the playoffs. There is no QB that can step in and lead the team right now, so why take a lesser QB now instead of a better one next year?
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Also with the lockout
doesnt really give the Niners a chance to succeed… if anything it decreases… So I wouldn’t be surprised with another bad year… Harbaugh has my exempt for at least this year if the Niners does poorly
with the 7th overall pick in the 2012 NFL Draft. The San Francisco 49ers select.......
by Giants49war on Apr 28, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
At the looks of it.. we are going to be playing football now not later.. also, The 49ers need a QB even if they sign a vet.
We can’t assume there will be a good vet available or that we actually trade for one. so a QB in the 1st or 2nd round is a good pick this year.
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Some of these mocks have been chock full of fail
Peterson dropping to 11 in the McShay mock?
Amukamara dropping to 25 in the Gosselin mock?
I can pretty much guarantee neither of those happen with 99.99% certainty.
I don't understand why everybody is so down on Gabbert
He has the three things Harbaugh is looking for 1. Accuracy 2. Athleticism 3. Leadership. Happy feet in the pocket, these things can be coached. But his arm and accuracy are undeniable, far superior to Alex Smith, though I think Gabbert suffers the residual effect of the Smith pick in the Niner fanbase.
The bottom line is Peterson will not be there at 7. He will not. So the next look would probably be Quinn, but he’s probably gone too as an elite pass rusher off the edge.
So……is waiting for a QB in round 2 is a risk the Niners are willing to take? I think not. Remember, even a trade down doesn’t ensure locking up a desired player.
Imagine this: what if the Niners traded down to the middle of the 1st to hopefully grab Amakumara but then he’s snatched up? then what? Take the next CB on the board?
Even more fatally, what if the Niners miss out on these top tier QB prospects? I don’t think that’s a chance they can take. If Peterson is gone, Gabbert is the pick.
None of these QB prospects are top tier.
Peterson (or even Amukamura) can step in and start RIGHT NOW. Not one QB can do that.
We had one of the worst secondaries in the league and the group of CBs available is awesome.
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by mikev on Apr 28, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Granted, while none are studs
there is definitely a considerable drop-off after the run of Dalton, Ponder, Kaepernick, Mallett. There are clear tiers to this crop of QBs.
I agree with you they take Peterson if he’s there, but Gabbert vs. Amukamura is going to be an interesting discernment.
by eastbayglory on Apr 28, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd still much rather have Amukamura.
Next year’s QB class is a lot better, and since the lockout is lifted there’s always the potential to trade for a veteran that can play a few years.
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first of all,
Gabbert’s accuracy isn’t that great. His completion percentages are good because he threw mostly short passes, but on the rare occasion when he tried to stretch the field his accuracy looked mediocre at best.
Second of all, Harbaugh looks for more than 3 things in a QB. When he was asked what he looked for, the very first thing he mentioned was athletic instincts, and Gabbert’s instincts are lacking.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
by these3words on Apr 28, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Sounded like you were talking about Alex Smith for a minute.
Razzano say Gabbert check’s down too much.
by DeathValleyCarl on Apr 28, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah
there’s some very good reasons for the Smith-Gabbert comparisons that have been thrown around.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
by these3words on Apr 28, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Do not confuse athleticism with "Athletic Instincts"
Harbaugh mentioned Athletic Instincts, being an athlete is only part of the equation. It is important to understand this distinction. I believe that Gabbert is “athletic”, but I do not feel he is “athletically instinctive”. Two difference things here.
I feel that Gabbert is a 2nd/3rd round prospect. McShay and the majority of the NFL mock analysts have him over rated. Just my opinion…
by Thrashard340 on Apr 28, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
If this is how todays draft is going to turn out
Im not gonna bother watching the first day, It will ruin the whole draft for me. Peterson still on the board and he has us taking Gabbert….WTF
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by EcERyda69 on Apr 28, 2011 10:49 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Granted, while none are studs
there is definitely a considerable drop-off after the run of Dalton, Ponder, Kaepernick, Mallett. There are clear tiers to this crop of QBs.
I agree with you they take Peterson if he’s there, but Gabbert vs. Amukamura is going to be an interesting discernment.
What time will the first open draft thread go up?
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
like 2 months ago
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i mean for the draft itself.
not the official fanposts.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
by these3words on Apr 28, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure there's a picture of a chasm that would fit nicely here
but I’m too lazy to go find it.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
by these3words on Apr 28, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I'll just go ahead and assume that's Pacific time.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
by these3words on Apr 28, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
always
I try to reference pacific time but if I forget, I always go with pacific time normally.
by David Fucillo on Apr 28, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
I rarely post, but Fooch do you think it’s worth it to go to the Niners Draft Party in Santa Clara?
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It is, I enjoy it.
I’m missing it this year, but I’d like to go. The atmosphere is awesome and it’s just a fun experience. Go early, though.
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by James Brady on Apr 28, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
So it’s actually worth it? One of my friends has an extra ticket and I’m wondering whether to go or not
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I think it’s fun. They have a lot of people there, you get pumped up, alumni and cheerleaders and the like. It’s just incredibly packed.
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by James Brady on Apr 28, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I may just stay here to see what everyone thinks of our picks. I don’t think people would appreciate me being happy about some picks
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I've never actually been
If you want to party with some friends during the draft I think it could be fun. Anybody out there been to the party in the past?
by David Fucillo on Apr 28, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I just don't see why he gives us a sixth-seventh round CB over guys who could sneak into the first.
With House, Burton, Marsh, Brown still on the board. Ridiculous.
I do however like Marecic and Powe in the sixth, that’s great value for the latter. Also better picks than Sheard at the position.
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I mean, he might not even be drafted. The 49ers never worked him out.
He’s not even in my personal top 25 corners. McShay is the only person to have him drafted above the sixth round, I think. And he has the 49ers taking him in the third? I mean, usually when you do something like that, there’s a reason. What’s the reason?
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by James Brady on Apr 28, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
He hates the 49ers
"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."
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Or what about
Johnny Patrick and Rashad Carmichael. Two other CB’s I would rather see over McShay’s pick.
by Thrashard340 on Apr 28, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Patrick did go before him.
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by James Brady on Apr 28, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I like Johnny Patrick a lot.
I’m not big on Carmichael, but Patrick will be a number-one corner after a year or so.
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by James Brady on Apr 28, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Carmichael may have motivational issues...
But he’s a true ballhawking type.
by Thrashard340 on Apr 28, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Just saw Peter Kings final mock
So PP makes it to 7 and we trade down to Hou and they get PP…
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/04/20/2011-nfl-mock-draft/index.html
7 SF - WR AJ Green, Georgia - BPA.
So we trade down just to get their own pick and nothing else?
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Just a rumor
but Houston has been shopping alot of picks to move up
7 SF - WR AJ Green, Georgia - BPA.
If we get Houston's #1 this year and #1 next year
I say we trade.
Otherwise, no
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by ToddCommish on Apr 28, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Give up Peterson this year for Prince, if it means you can get Luck next year?
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Basically.
I could get behind this strategy
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by ToddCommish on Apr 28, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Totally
I am very much down for this if that were to be the strategy. Prince + 1st rounder > Peterson, and I loves me some PP
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by Giant Voodoo on Apr 28, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Doesn't compute ... the difference between 7 and 11 is a third-round pick; or, second-round if for 2012 draft.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Apr 28, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s about that, yeah. But it really all depends on how bad Houston wants Peterson. Value can be inflated due to the fact that many consider Peterson the best player in the draft. A second rounder this year is not unreasonable at all, in this situation.
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by James Brady on Apr 28, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
This
the price goes up with how desperate you look and everybody knows they are gunning for Peterson.
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by Giant Voodoo on Apr 28, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
The charts are BS
Didn’t you read “Scorecasting”?
They’re soooooo 90’s….
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Every mock has us getting Marecic
Throw this one out.
by mcwagner on Apr 28, 2011 11:05 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
I agree...but possibly for a different reason
I think that Harbaugh would like to have Marecic. However, I think another team will reach on him in the 5th round. I think Harbaugh will make the call on QB and Baalke will make the call on all of the other positions.
by Thrashard340 on Apr 28, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
same reason
Its like winning the lottery. I would love it if it were to happen
by mcwagner on Apr 28, 2011 11:45 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
WHY!?
does everyone think that we’re going to take Gabbert??!? it boggles my mind to think that they talk up a player that is not even close to being that good. i dont even think that gabbert or newton should go in the first, but unfortunately GM’s and HC’s are talking themselves into taking these 2 in the top 10, maybe top 5. We will NOT take Gabbert. I can guarantee you this.
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Consolation
Peter King thinks we should pass on PP, thinks we’ll take prince, but believes we should take Dalton…
7 SF - WR AJ Green, Georgia - BPA.
O_-.....oh joy
I dont know what these “experts” are talking about. Can i have a job like theirs, get paid about 75 – 100 k (SIGNIFICANTLY less than what most of them make) and i’ll spew crud like they do. Hell, i’ll actually throw out more common sense mocks out there that most of the crazies-i mean Analysts out there.
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by imjuliooo89 on Apr 28, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Seriously!
I couldn’t think of a sweeter job! There are absolutely ZERO consequences to your job! No one depends on your thoughts! No one cares if you don’t guess a single pick correctly! No one cares! All your words are, is fun to talk about! And then someone writes you a 6 figure check! WHATTTT??? If you seriously sit back and think about Kiper and McShay’s jobs, how much sweeter does it get?!!!
it doesnt get any better than that
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by imjuliooo89 on Apr 28, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
If PP is there at #7, they'll take him
There are plenty of comparable QBs that will be available for our 2nd round pick.
The difference between Patrick Peterson and the 2nd round CBs is much much greater than the difference between Gabbert and, say, Kaepernick
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Outside of Vereen, Marecic, and Powe…I hate this mock. WHY would we pass on PP? I mean really, why? I don’t care if people think QB is our “biggest need”. Our pass defense was the worst in the NFL…cmon ‘professionals’
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by Mdizzle138 on Apr 28, 2011 11:14 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Trade the 7th pick down..
Get a QB in the later rounds. In fact, they should wheel and deal for more picks for the future, and draft for more speed and power, find a Center and a CB. Don’t think Rebuild. Think Reshape.
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IF Gabbert, PP, and Prince are still on the board at #7
TRADE DOWN with Houston and get extra picks (at least a 2nd this year, maybe more next year)
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by ToddCommish on Apr 28, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
If PP is there, I suggest taking him no matter what unless the trade offer is ungodly (e.g. Their first this year, next year and a second in this draft) Not gonna happen, but that’s the only thing I would trade PP for
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I want a Pro-Bowl HOF caliber Center..
they draft one of those, and the offense is good for years to come.
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McShay, its ridiculous for anyone to mock out all 7 rounds. Give me a break.
Most mocks will be blown up by the mid 1st round, let alone the 2nd round, let alone the 7th…..
And this mock basically ignores the secondary for the 49ers, so I don’t buy into it much from that side either.
By the way I know its from tiebreakers
But how annoying is it trying to follow the 49ers draft when their pick jumps around from round to round
I like Kiper more than McShay...
…and I’m not a big fan of Kiper.
I agree
I saw the final mock and has the 49ers picking Gabbert over three better players: Patrick Peterson, Robert Quinn and Prince Akumumara. If the Cards love Aldon Smith so much, they would be smart to trade down, #9 to #11 teams. Cowboys trade up for Peterson?it can happen, RedSkins trade up for Gabbert? it can happen, Texans trade up to get Peterson? it can happen where at the end, the Cardinals will go with Aldon Smith but not at #5. I’d rather just take Patrick Peterson at #5 because he is the BAP.
Todd McShay is an idiot
He is an idiot in so many ways, that I can’t believe because #1, he has Aldon Smith going #5, then 49ers pick Gabbert over Peterson. It is pretty clear they are going defense, if Peterson is not there, there goes Quinn or Prince. They are really looking at a couple of QB’s: Locker, Ponder, Dalton, Kaepernick and Stanzi. NOT Newton, Gabbert or Mallett.
I don’t mind selecting say a CB or DE in the first rd. If they can’t trade up for CB, I would love to see an Aaron Williams drop to us but a Brendan Harris would be good, too. Ricky Stanzi in rd 3. I would love that scenario.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Apr 28, 2011 11:27 AM PDT reply actions
yes
We are going to hear something in that regards, whether or not it is made official. I just have a weird feeling it is going to happen. Nothing of substance, just a feeling. Of course, the uncertainty to the league year clouds it a bit.
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Gabbert
I just don’t think he’ll be a 49er. After hearing Dave Razzano interviewed on KNBR (go to the website and hear it on the Murph and Mac show), I am very afraid Gabbert will be Smith 2.0. Razzano was high on Locker because of leadership, athleticism and gamer ability. He even said he hated Locker at first for the low completion %, but after watching the film, he realized the real problem was the really bad offensive line he played with.
If Peterson and Miller are gone by 7, and the 49ers don’t trade UP to get one of the two (which I doubt), they will shop Gabbert to Washington or another team that wants him. Then, they will take Amukamura, Quinn, or one of the other CB/OLBs. They might even keep trading down in the first to add more picks, then pick Dalton/Locker/Ponder/Kaepernick in the mid to low 1st round. Mike Silver argues that because of the lockout, all of those guys will go in the first round because of the panic about having a starting QB. He also says that because Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Sam Bradford, Mark Sanchez, Josh Freeman, and Matt Stafford have all been first year hits, teams are more confident they can draft and start the QB right away.
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I've always seen him as Smith 2.0
He doesn’t do anything well and his journey up the draft board is a great mystery.
Gabbert
The 49ers are lukewarm on Gabbert but high on Ponder, Dalton, Kaepernick and Stanzi. Don’t be surprised if they wait until 3rd rd to pick QB, but trade this weekend for McNabb, IF the lockout is over and a huge paycut.
Trade with Pats?
I hear the Patriots want to move up to snag Quinn or Cam Jordan. Niners could get both of the Pats first rounders (17 & 28) out of it. Good move in my books if Peterson is gone
by HeyMisterWilson on Apr 28, 2011 11:48 AM PDT reply actions
no way they do this
and 17 & 33 balance the values out better. If they did, that would be pretty perfect
Strategically...
It would put the 49ers in a prime position to draft the 2 tier QB of their choosing since the 33rd pick comes right before the Bills, Cards, Bengals, Titans and Dolphins. All of whom may target a QB in the early second round.
by Thrashard340 on Apr 28, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably 17 and 33, I doubt they’d od 17 and 28.
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by James Brady on Apr 28, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
In europe...
Does anyone know a good website where I can at least get live updates on draft picks coming in??
by NinerFanInItaly on Apr 28, 2011 11:57 AM PDT reply actions
League To Announce That Trades and Signing Can Be Made
Effective Friday a 5AM PST
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Apr 28, 2011 12:06 PM PDT reply actions
5:01 AM PST
- 49ers have signed Nnamdi Asomugha to a 4 year $50 million deal
- 49ers have traded a 5th round pick in 2011 NFL draft for Josh Johnson
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by MichaelClutchtree on Apr 28, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
wait what
As far as teams being able to sign, trade and release veteran players and sign undrafted rookies, the league is still determining when that part of the business would open. NFL Network reports that isn’t likely to happen until next week, to give teams time to breathe with the draft on the forefront.
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by MichaelClutchtree on Apr 28, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
that's accurate
nocal was getting a little ahead of himself.
by David Fucillo on Apr 28, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I read that article differently
It seems to me that the NFL would allow teams to start contacting free agents starting at 5AM tomorrow. Am I missing something? If the court ruled against them, they need to immediately resume ALL off-season activities, including trades. Am I misinterpreting what I read? Please inform me to that if it is the case
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Apr 28, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Schefter tweet
http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter/status/63658035830210560. This could all change if the court of appeals says no stay, but basically the league is trying to buy time rather than just open the doors to chaos. They can end the lockout but still delay implementing new rules. If they say things will start Monday then they can’t be held in contempt.
by David Fucillo on Apr 28, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh okay, thanks for the clarification.
I read it differently. My thinking was that if they plan to allow for “other” off-season activities at 5AM, they would have to allow for signings and trade. But, I guess that is not the case.
That actually makes more sense than to create mass confusion during the draft.
Mila "Sweet Lips" Kunis, as stated by Scarlett Johansson. I couldn't agree more. Reverse would be true too!!!!
by nocal81(Vincent) on Apr 28, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Players lead counsel sent a letter to the court
saying that the NFL is arbitrarily determining when the league year will start and there’s no reason for it not to start immediately.
IOW they’re sticking up for players like Kolb and Palmer who might garner lower 1st, high 2nd round picks in trades.
Well, they are right
But, there should be some type of compromise. Allow trades to go forward to that teams and players have an idea what is happening. Then, on Monday allow free agency to start. But, I guess it is too much to ask for a compromise at this point.
Mila "Sweet Lips" Kunis, as stated by Scarlett Johansson. I couldn't agree more. Reverse would be true too!!!!
by nocal81(Vincent) on Apr 28, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Like Vereen and Marecic
but not Gabbert.
but then I have a reading problem...
by Bob In Beaverton on Apr 28, 2011 1:35 PM PDT reply actions
Gabbert at 7
Harbaugh is smarter than that.
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