2011 NFL Draft Picks By Team: Day One Recap & Analysis
This was as wacky of a draft that I have seen in years. Several teams made shocking moves and everyone else made moves that were somewhat expected.
There's no telling how any of these players will do once they are young men amongst pro's. Some will fall off the map and others will carve out their legacies. It's as simple as that.
There were players that were pegged to be day two picks, some even day three, selected early in the draft. Some teams selected for need and others stayed true to their best player available theories.
As much as I hate to remind everyone, and as normal as things may seem, the players drafted today may not be able to be signed right away. And on top of that, we still have to wait for a ruling from the 8th circuit as to whether or not a stay will be granted in the NFL vs. the players lawsuit.
Hopefully the draft will make all parties realize just how fun it is for everyone. And hopefully the boo's made Rodger Goodell feel horrible about promoting all this lockout stuff. Either way, we need football, and it is us (the fans) who suffer the most without it.
After the jump, we'll take a look back at tonight's selection.
1. CAROLINA PANTHERS - CAM NEWTON | QUARTERBACK | AUBURN: Before the draft, it was already predetermined that Newton would be selected by the Panthers. They spent countless hours talking with him and evaluating him and felt that he offered the most upside to their team at that position. Considering the pick here, it seems as though Jimmy Clausen's days as the starter were short lived. It will be an interesting camp to say the least. The Panthers will rely heavily on the run still, so the pressure may not be cranked up full volume on Newton to start the season. It will be a journey for Newton but if he can work hard, he may shock all of us and turn out to be quite good.
2. DENVER BRONCOS - VON MILLER | LINEBACKER | TEXAS A&M: Most folks thought that Miller would be around till at least the third pick and that Darues or Fairley would be the pick for John Fox and John Elway. Miller is a solid pick that will provide a flash of energy in to that front seven which is already dangerous. It looks like Fox and company will try and get their defensive tackle a bit later. Excellent pick with some youth for an aging defense. We could be looking at the next Lawrence Taylor; although Mel Kiper used the comparison to Derrick Thomas.
3. BUFFALO BILLS - MARCELL DAREUS | DEFENSIVE TACKLE | ALABAMA: This comes as no surprise as the Bills were ranked at the bottom of the barrel in terms of defending the run. Dareus could wind up being a bit overdrafted here. And on top of that, the Bills will expect quite a bit out of him right out of the gates. This pick shows that the Bills are not shying away from picking need over best player available. This could be good news in that everyone is expecting there to be a free agency to patch up holes that aren't addressed in the draft.
4. CINCINNATI BENGALS - A.J. GREEN | WIDE RECEIVER | GEORGIA: Most folks had this young phenomenal player pegged at this slot here. I think his upside is above Randy Moss'. A.J. Green may be the best offensive player in this draft. If Ochocinco and Owens are as gone as people say they are, Green could be in the running for rookie of the year. I am certain, barring injury, that he will at the very least be in the talks.
5. ARIZONA CARDINALS - PATRICK PETERSON | LSU: He is being chalked up as possibly the best player in the draft. He is obviously the best player available on the board here. They cannot pass him up. It is amazing that he made it down this far. He will be a great compliment to Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie. The 49ers wide receivers lives just got a bit more difficult. Peterson will also more than likely provide them with some big play ability on returns.
6. CLEVELAND BROWNS (TRADE 1) ATLANTA FALCONS - JULIO JONES | WIDE RECEIVER| ALABAMA: This was not a shocker. At least to me. The price was steep, but Jones is going to free up Roddy White, who happens to be one of the best wide receivers in the NFL. The Falcons are going to be hard to stop through the air now. Jones is a big target for Ryan that is hard to bring down. They have a solid defense which will make Atlanta hard to beat each and every week... And I didn'r even mention the Turner factor.
7. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS - ALDON SMITH | LINEBACKER | MISSOURI: This comes as a huge surprise in the selection of yet another Smith. I think this pick shocked most 49ers fans. It shocked me, that's for sure. A lot of folks were saying, "not Gabbert, not Gabbert" and their wishes were granted. The 49ers ended up with the 52nd Smith to fill the roster. In any case, even though it comes as a shock, Smith will provide a fierce and immediate pass rush if he comes in to the regular season healthy. This could be one of the more shocking picks yet this year.
8. TENNESSEE TITANS - JAKE LOCKER | QUARTERBACK | WASHINGTON: The Titans already had stated that Vince Young was going to be on his way and they needed to fill the vacancy. Not many folks thought they would do that with such a reach. This move sends Blaine Gabbert sliding even further down the board. Most people were pretty shocked at this pick. The Titans must have felt very solid about Locker. Solid enough to select him in the top ten.
9. DALLAS COWBOYS - TYRON SMITH | OFFENSIVE TACKLE | USC: This is not too much of a surprise. The Cowboys had trouble keeping their quarterback upright whether it was Romo or Kitna. They need to protect their major assets and they set out to try and do that with Smith. He will struggle initially but I think once he settles down and adjusts to the speed of the game, he will be a pretty darn good tackle. The Cowboys may have reached a bit here with a lot of talent still on the board. I thought they would have went after Amukamara or Quinn since they were still there. But Jones and company had their eyes set on Smith apparently.
10. WASHINGTON REDSKINS (TRADE 2) JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS - BLAINE GABBERT | QUARTERBACK: Wow! That's all you can say about this pick. First, the Jags have plenty of money tied up with David Garrard. Gabbert will not have to start immediately which may be the best possible scenario for Gabbert. This is the same thing that a lot of the more talented teams have done in grooming quarterbacks. Not a lot of folks saw this coming. This could be the second biggest shocker of this years draft. Gabbert will be a good quarterback in a few years.
11. HOUSTON TEXANS - J.J. WATT | DEFENSIVE END | WISCONSIN: This is a solid pick for the Texans. This os going to free up Mario Williams to be more of a menace. And Watt should be a menace in his own light. He has drawn comparison's to Justin Smith and Jared Allen. Even is he is three-quarters the players of the two aforementioned, then the Texans are in for a treat. All he does is make plays on the defensive side of the ball. The Texans did ignore their glaring weakness in the secondary but should address that on day two, or possibly free agency.
12. MINNESOTA VIKINGS - CHRISTIAN PONDER | QUARTERBACK | FLORIDA STATE: This is shocker number three or four. It could be the biggest shock of the draft. Nobody had Ponder pegged as a first rounder. Not even in the bottom half of the first round. It is seeming more and more as though people are grabbing what needs they can while they can. I don't have a ton of faith in Ponder as it is well documented but the Vikings and Leslie Frazier think that he was worth the number twelve. I don't think we have seen the last first round quarterback off the board just yet.
13. DETROIT LIONS - NICK FAIRLEY | DEFENSIVE TACKLE | AUBURN: The Lions may have just created the most fearful defensive lines in the National Football League. Kyle Vanden Bosch, Ndamukong Suh, Nick Fairley, and McBride will give defensive coordinators fits and nightmares. Fairley may be the best pure defensive tackle in this draft and the Lions just got the steal of the first round. If you are in the NFC North, you just realized that your run game doesn't exist for at least two games out of the year.
14. ST. LOUIS RAMS - ROBERT QUINN | DEFENSIVE END | NORTH CAROLINA: This is another amazing pick up for a division rival to the 49ers. It seems as though the entire division is getting stronger today on the defensive side of the ball. There is no question that Quinn plays the game with passion. He is as explosive as dynamite and the Rams defense will now be stocked full of youth. Had Quinn played last year, he would have easily been a top ten pick. The Rams get some major value with the selection here.
15. MIAMI DOLPHINS - MIKE POUNCEY | CENTER | FLORIDA: He is selected three spots ahead of where his brother was drafted last year by the Steelers. This pick is a bit surprising to me. I thought that they would get a positional player on offense whether it be a running back, wide receiver, or even quarterback. In any case, if he plays as good as his bother did last year in his rookie year, the Dolphins will be very satisfied with their selection. I do not think that if the twins were in the same draft, that Mike would have been considered as a first rounder. He should be thanking his brother quite a bit for his performance last year. Genetics can only go so far.
16. WASHINGTON REDSKINS (TRADE 2 WITH JAGS) - RYAN KERRIGAN | LINEBACKER | PURDUE: With Orakpo on one side and Kerrigan on the other, the 'Skins will have a nice set of pass rushers to get after the passer. They instantly will be better on the defensive side of the ball. With how bad the Redskins offense is though, it makes one wonder what and when they will start building the offense through the draft. They traded out of the tenth overall pick and wound up with a solid football player but there may be a lot left to be desired for fans in D.C.
17. NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS - NATE SOLDER | OFFENSIVE TACKLE | COLORADO: I thought that the Patriots may go here but I didn't think that they would have done it this soon. Solder has lengthy arms and good bounce in the way he blocks. With the way ol' Billy can coach up a player, he could have Solder ready to play sooner than later. I am sure that Brady encouraged this pick as well. This is just the beginning for the Pats. They have several more picks to go throughout this draft... as they do always in every draft; so it seems.
18. SAN DIEGO CHARGERS - COREY LIUGET | DEFENSIVE END | ILLINOIS: This pick is not a too much of a surprise. They have weakened in recent years as far as their defensive line is concerned. Luiget will provide a Justin Smith type of pass rush and be able to hold down the fort for the four linebackers behind him. Most folks thought that Liuget would be selected around here. The Chargers still have a lot of pieces to put together on that defense in rounds to come.
19. NEW YORK GIANTS - PRINCE AMUKAMARA | CORNERBACK | NEBRASKA: They had to do it. Their secondary got a little beat up last year and Amukamara was the consensus number two. He has his work cut out for him but Coughlin and company think they may be able to mold him. Giants fans were clamoring for an offensive lineman to help out Eli Manning but wound up with a Prince instead. They better just hope he doesn't play like a princess. He is now in one of the largest spotlights in America. They will chew him up and spit him out in New York if he doesn't produce, and produce quickly.
20. TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS - ADRIAN CLAYBORN | DEFENSIVE END | IOWA: Two years ago, Clayborn was an absolute menace. The Bucs got McCoy in last years draft and they instantly get even better on that defensive line by picking up Clayborn. He has high energy and can be a force on the edge. He will help in the run game right away but I am concerned in how fast he can produce in providing a pass rush. He does have the ability to turn a game in a split second though. His technique is fantastic. The sky is the limit for the Bucs and Clayborn next year.
21. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS (TRADE 3) CLEVELAND BROWNS - PHIL TAYLOR | NOSE TACKLE | BAYLOR: The Browns have not had a solid defensive tackle for a very long time. Taylor is going to blast holes in to the middle of offensive lines. They won the AFC North surprisingly last year but had issues in the playoffs, period. Taylor is a monument of a man and will be hard to stop. If I was a center or a guard in the AFC North, I would not be liking this selection very much. The new cover boy of John Madden Football 2012, Peyton Hillis (a.k.a clone of Mike Alstott) announced the Phil Taylor pick.
22. INDIANAPOLIS COLTS - ANTHONY CASTONZO | OFFENSIVE TACKLE | BOSTON COLLEGE: Castonzo is a great pass protector but has his issues in run blocking. That kind of works out for the Colts considering that that's what they do good. It works out for Castonzo and it works out even better for Peyton Manning. It's a win, win for everyone in Indy. As things stand, Mark Ingram is still on the board. I thought that there would be some interest there but as it turns out, the Colts may be looking to pay Peyton Manning a junk load of money. Castonzo is the insurance policy.
23. PHILADELPHIA EAGLES - DANNY WATKINS | GUARD | BAYLOR: This is a bit of a shock. He is not only a rookie but he is 26-years old. He was a firefighter and all that too... maybe he will pull double-duty in case a fire breaks out at Lincoln Financial Field. In any case, I don't think that he is as good as advertised. I really don't think he is the second best interior lineman in the draft. Oh well, Philly can enjoy their cheese steaks and their new firefighter tonight. I think they got snowballed, personally; karma is a...
24. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS - CAMERON JORDAN | DEFENSIVE END | CALIFORNIA: Will Smith and Cameron Jordan on either side equals a win for the New Olreans Saints fans. This is an extremely good pick. For the twenty-fourth pick, they are getting the most bang for their buck. Jordan was an absolute monster and I think his success will follow him in to the NFL. At the end of the year, I am sure the league will be well aware of Cameron Jordan out of the University of California.
25. SEATTLE SEAHAWKS - JAMES CARPENTER | GUARD | ALABAMA: I don't know what the Seahawks front office is thinking here. I mean I do, they want to get better along the offensive line... but... Wisniewski? Hudson? Fusco? ... Wow. That is a shock...and in a good way for 49ers fans. This could be the largest reach of this years draft. I don't have much more to say about this draft pick except, WOW. Carpenter did average in college and now is finding himself as a first rounder. Good run blocking guard, bad in pass protection. He must've really said his prayers last night. Either that, or he sold his soul to the Devil.
26. BALTIMORE RAVENS (TRADE 4) KANSAS CITY CHIEFS - JONATHAN BALDWIN | WIDE RECEIVER | PITTSBURGH: The Chiefs aren't quite set at the wide receiver position so I view this trade as a pretty good one for them. Bowe had an excellent season last year which makes this selection even better. Bowe will now not be keyed in on and can have a bit more free reign to elevate his game. The Chiefs will be the front runners to win the division once again next year.
27. BALTIMORE RAVENS - JIMMY SMITH | CORNERBACK | COLORADO: The Ravens are getting old on the defensive side of the ball. Getting in Jimmy Smith with the selection here is very strategic in that he will get to learn from Ray Lewis and Ed Reed. He will undoubtedly be an upgrade to the current cornerback situation in Baltimore. Smith is a bit raw around the edges but has the physical and mental tools that it will take to be successful playing for John Harbaugh.
28. NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS (TRADE 5) NEW ORLEANS SAINTS - MARK INGRAM | RUNNING BACK | ALABAMA: Finally. I am sure that Ingram is as relieved as he possibly could be. He has looked worried all night long. He will be a great addition to an already dangerous backfield. If Pierre Thomas can stay healthy, the Thomas, Ingram one-two punch could be pretty lethal (not even factoring in what could happen with Reggie Bush). Then there is the Drew Brees factor. The Saints may be back next year. One thing is for sure, the NFC South is going to be very, very tough next year. It's a good thing in that the Niners do not have to play the South (with exception of the Bucs) again this upcoming year.
29. CHICAGO BEARS - GABE CARIMI | OFFENSIVE TACKLE | WISCONSIN: This was a very solid pick for the Bears. They had trouble keeping Jay Cutler upright last year. Carimi at one point before the offseason began was considered the number one tackle. He has played in cold weather which will suit him well in the Windy City. He has to be coached up but I believe that he will be starting and making an impact right away both in the run game as well as the pass.
30. NEW YORK JETS - MUHAMMAD WILKERSON | DEFENSIVE TACKLE | TEMPLE: Shaun Ellis is getting up there in age, so this pick is one to secure the future in New York. He may have been one of the most underrated player in this draft. He is already used to playing in a 3-4 defense so the transition will not be a bumpy one for him. Wilkerson will make an immediate impact. He was a very disruptive player at Temple, and I believe he will continue to be in the NFL.
31. PITTSBURGH STEELERS - CAMERON HEYWARD | DEFENSIVE END | OHIO STATE: The son of Craig "Iron Head" Heyward was finally selected at thirty-one. With one more pick left, Heyward barely squeezes his way in the the first round. Most folks thought that the Steelers would have gone with a cornerback considering how badly they got torched in the Superbowl last year. However, Heyward will help secure the defensive line for years to come. And if he is half as passionate as his father was in playing in the NFL, he is going to leave a lot of opposing players with migraines at the end of the day.
32. GREEN BAY PACKERS - DEREK SHERROD | OFFENSIVE TACKLE | MISSISSIPPI STATE: This is as good as it gets for the Superbowl Champs. Maybe this means that the Pack is ready to slide Bulaga over? In any case, it's quite conceivable that one of the two will be the starting left tackle to protect Aaron Rodgers blind side next year. It was a weak spot in their offense, so the pick makes sense. If they can get a rushed Aaron Rodgers a second or more per play each and every down, the Packers may just be even more of a force next year.
And that's a wrap folks... stay tuned for another summary tomorrow morning. Have a good night!
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who is james carpenter? lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Nobody had Ponder pegged as a first rounder
More lies.
Harbaugh can turn any QB into a great one. He's a QB guru, even if he's only been a head coach at the college ranks.
Nobody smart had Ponder pegged as a first rounder
At least we aren’t the Vikings.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
“smart” is in the eye of the beholder.
Harbaugh can turn any QB into a great one. He's a QB guru, even if he's only been a head coach at the college ranks.
by BustaTheRippa on Apr 28, 2011 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Ponder
I will that Drew was inaccurate in this statement. I noticed the last couple weeks numerous mocks starting to move him up into the first round. I’ll try and find some links, but he was actually starting to get first round love. Considering I recall him being considered a later pick before the Senior Bowl, I am still surprised how high he climbed.
by David Fucillo on Apr 28, 2011 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep, I saw quite a few that had him in the 20's
Harbaugh can turn any QB into a great one. He's a QB guru, even if he's only been a head coach at the college ranks.
by BustaTheRippa on Apr 28, 2011 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions
FSU did lose 3 of its top 4 receivers after 2009. One of them was completely unexpected (domestic violence incident not reported but he was still kicked off). Took a long time to mesh.
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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Ponder is a bum
Watch his game against OU. He is not even NFL caliber
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
See my comment below. More had him in the late first than not and as I pointed out, Ponder expected to go at 10. In fact, that’s exactly where the DFW writer (the best mock drafter of all time) had him.
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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Puts his mock out when all his sources from around the league tell them exactly who they want.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Bud, I know you’re here supporting your guy and a lot of people on Niners Nation (the majority, in fact) really like Ponder … but you really are going to get nowhere with this. What I really don’t like is how you continually reference the readers of this site and things like that. “I hope for your readers sake” and things of that nature. It’s the opinion of one (actually a couple) and we’re not going to tell him to write what we want him to write. He’s our draft guy, and he happens to have a deep distaste for Ponder … argue your piece if you must, but stop taking personal offense to the fact that he thinks he’s a bum.
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The problem is that he injected his own bias into the commentary
and made a false statement.
Harbaugh can turn any QB into a great one. He's a QB guru, even if he's only been a head coach at the college ranks.
by BustaTheRippa on Apr 28, 2011 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I get it … I personally think what he said is silly, but the people from FSU have a history coming here, and I’m more of telling him for his own benefit that it’s not gonna go anwhere.
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Wow... imagine that...
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Yawn.
Opinion has nothing to do with false statements.
“No one had Ponder pegged in the 1st round”.
FALSE. If you would have wrote “I think it was a terrible pick”, no one would have an issue.
Harbaugh can turn any QB into a great one. He's a QB guru, even if he's only been a head coach at the college ranks.
by BustaTheRippa on Apr 28, 2011 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Let me ask you this:
When Drew typed that sentence, do you think he literally meant that not one single person on the planet had Ponder going in the first round?
It may have technically been a false statement, but it comes across as more of a generalization than a lie. That’s just my two cents.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
I think its the way he writes it.
And the fact that there were a bunch of recent mocks with Ponder going in the 1st round. Another factor is that it is a recurring them with him, in that many of his technically false statements come when he is referencing players he just doesn’t like.
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Bingo!
Harbaugh can turn any QB into a great one. He's a QB guru, even if he's only been a head coach at the college ranks.
by BustaTheRippa on Apr 28, 2011 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
My opinion is strong... won't deny that.
However, people need to stop reading so much in between the lines. these3words has it right.
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I'll keep that in mind for the future.
But that was just my opinion on why I believe you get so many strong reactions. All of the personal attacks either way are ridiculous, though.
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Nowhere in my statement did I make any reference to Drew’s personal feeling on Ponder. I knew that would cause a fight and I refrained from doing so. I only pointed out his false statements of fact.
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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I’m just letting you know … no hostility from me.
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there's...
so much value in the 2nd round, it’s mind-boggling. be thankful the niners have the 13th pick in it.
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Apr 28, 2011 8:55 PM PDT reply actions
Didn't I just reply to this?
Weird that it vanished. The talent dries up before 45. This is one of the weakest drafts for depth in history
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Um not really dude
You don’t know what you’re talking about. There are guys at positions of non-value (FB, K) that will be available but that’s about it after the 2nd round.
I said this a while ago and Charlie Casserly came out and echoed me earlier today. The talent falls off a cliff in the 2nd round. You’re going from prospects with a 75-80 grade to guys that are below 70 pretty much instantly.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Deep at CB, which is good enough for me right now.
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the fact that we got frank gore at 65 in the third round pretty much cancels your whole argument
if that’s falling off a cliff, let me jump and keep jumping from rounds 3 – 7….
by that logic
no one ever needs to draft a Cornerback, since Tramon Williams went undrafted.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
Round 3 and beyond is a crapshoot just about every year.
Getting quality players that deep is very difficult no matter how deep the class is.
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and yet some teams seem to, year in year out, find value through the 7 rounds
a defeatist mentality combined with false satements like “The talent dries up before 45” is pure monkey business
Well the talent is there,
its just hard to find. I bet you would be surprised in how low the percentages are of finding players, even by the good teams, that low. With that said, with good scouting it would increase the chances of finding a couple players who stick on days 2 and 3.
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Since you obviously don't pay much attention to the draft...
Look at the players coming out of the 2nd/3rd round in what is considered a deep draft
Vs what is there this year.
This is not a deep draft. The reason why? Almost all the talented underclassmen from last year came out because there was talk of the rookie salary cap this year. The only redeeming factor for this draft is the exact same phenomenon this year… But it has left the draft lacking in viable seniors which leaves it not nearly as deep.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Did we get Frank Gore this year ratumike?
Oh no we didn’t… We got him in a different draft class… And he slid to the 3rd because he blew his knee out in college. Thus he was a risk pick. Nobody questioned his talent. Those guys are going at the top of the 2nd and in the 1st this year.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I bet four of the 12 players drafted this year will be good enough to start.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Start? Or make the roster?
Because from this point on…. We’re looking at maybe 2 guys who will have the talent to start.
Our Fullback because Moron is horrible and POSSIBLY our CB if we get Dowling who is the most pro-ready out of any left in this class.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually plenty of people questioned his talent, mainly his speed and playing with tremendous talent around him
Harbaugh can turn any QB into a great one. He's a QB guru, even if he's only been a head coach at the college ranks.
by BustaTheRippa on Apr 28, 2011 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
He averaged 9.1 yards per carry as a freshman
People that knew what they were talking about weren’t questioning his talent. Only how well he’d come back from the injury.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
there is a good amount of talent after 45...
definitive statements like yours in a probability game like football are basically rubbish. no offense intended. time will prove that over and over and over again…
I made it. And I'm not the only one. Casserly echoed it today
and some NFL draftnik echoed it a while ago. Maybe I even got it off them. But I’m not the only one who has said this. You just won’t hear it very often from analysts because the league doesn’t like bad publicity.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
He wasn't a good GM at Houston but
But he did his job well enough as a scout in Washington to earn the GM position there. Found a couple of linemen for the old Hogs line as UDFAs that went to pro bowls early on then as GM he picked Brian Mitchell in the 5th then moved him to RB where he led the league in combined yards 4 times. Hit Keenan McCardell in the 12th round and Frank Wycheck in the 6th. In 1999 he was the NFL executive of the year and he took Ditka’s trade and then still got Champ Bailey.
With the Texans he drafted – Mario Williams (correct choice), Demeco Ryans, Andre Johnson (yes please) and Owen Daniels.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
He also picked up heath shuler for the skins
rated by espn as the 4th in their ‘NFL Draft busts’. And his record at houston is terrible. Andre is a no brainer, and so is mario, but they are first rounders. demeco is good, and jury is still out on owen daniels. he also drafted david carr. nuff said. i’ll take casserly with a big grain of salt.
already cut him, didn’t they?
Harbaugh can turn any QB into a great one. He's a QB guru, even if he's only been a head coach at the college ranks.
by BustaTheRippa on Apr 28, 2011 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
no
Sounds like they were going to ask him to restructure and eventually cut him.
by David Fucillo on Apr 28, 2011 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
should be
I am sorry I did not meet expectation of high first round pick lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Lok's like the trade the Falcon's did was the most shocking , they gave away a butt-load of pick's ...
… in my house hold we all picked rite after each other … Falcon’s ( oldest son ) . Niner’s … Titan’s ( youngest son ) …!!
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the first 6 picks were all chalk
and then the niners started the chaos that went the rest of the way! It’s their fault!
my draft sheet is in tatters….
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I'm sorry...but, does anyone else see a scary trend starting around here?
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Two things:
the last time we drafted a smith in the first round did not work out great
and
Titans got a great QB in Locker, we should have taken him with the 7th pick not smith
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Wait, what?
Locker for 7th? I think he was more of a reach than Smith.
wow great insight
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by MichaelClutchtree on Apr 28, 2011 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course there is another possible comparison
The last time the 49ers acquired a pass rusher named Smith from Missouri it worked out pretty well for them.
My problem with calling Aldon a reach.
With how crazy the draft was, it is impossible to know how far a player will drop. If he is the top player on your board, take him regardless of what everyone else says. All it takes is one team ahead of you to grab the player you want, and then you are stuck moving down the draft board. As long as the Niners trusted the scouts and think he was the player available who would be the best 49er, I have no complaints.
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Our scouts blew it. Or our medical staff did
Aldon before Quinn is outright idiocy
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
They are pretty much identical size/weight.
Smith might have as much potential.
by SanFranciscoKnights on Apr 28, 2011 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
No. No he doesn't.
And its not really close.
And um Navdeep… If you think about that 31 other teams thing… You’ll realize you either made a mistake or you’re really dumb.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=443628
Kellen Moore is awesome
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Im not competitive I just addicted to winning.
Aside from the fact that the guy that made that post doesn't know the difference between Were and Where
I don’t see where that applies at all…
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Then why did so many others do the same thing?
Maybe the Niners went with the safer pick, but I think it was far from idiotic. To call it that before either has played a down is crazy.
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How many others after us needed a pass rushing LB?
Nobody. The next team to come up that needed a pass rusher picked the right guy.
We grabbed a guy that would have been there at 15 at 7… and passed on Quinn and let him go to our division rival at 14.
IDIOCY
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
quinn hasn't played for a season...
and depending on what happens with the NFL legally, may not play for a little while on top of that…we got a young, tough, hungry guy for our 7th pick…he would not have been there at 15, but i guess we’ll never know
You have absolutely no way of knowing he would have been there at 15.
Obviously Harbaugh and Baalke liked Aldon Smith better. I’ll wait until they get on the field for awhile before overreacting to this pick.
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He would have been there at 15.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
So you predicted all of the picks up to 15, including trades?
If the Niners picked him at 7, how can you possibly know he would have lasted that long?
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He would gone to the Rams at 14 if we took Quinn.
I survived the David Carr Press Conference Thread 3/06/2010
And Harbamania. And the San Francisco Giants 2010 World Series season.
by Hoopers Judge on Apr 28, 2011 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Had we taken Quinn yes its POSSIBLE the Rams take him BUT
The Rams drafted Quinn to play DE not OLB. Aldon at the pro level is pretty much only an OLB. Might not have have fit their scheme. Also, like I said, Amukamara was still there.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
after all that has happened with this draft, how could you know that?
i correct my own statement of saying he would not have been there at 15. i only say that because the lions and texans had him rated very highly, but we’ll never know…
You think the Texans were gonna pass on JJ Watt?
Maybe. But you think the Lions were gonna pass on Fairley for him? LMAO yah right.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
the texans had him rated very highly.
i’m of the opinion jj watt was their consolation pick, and had they the chance they pull the trigger and get aldon if he was available
As I said "Maybe"
If he did get by them the only people taking him would have been a team trading up and I don’t see that as likely as he’s certainly not a can’t miss talent.
The Rams need a true NFL DE – Something Quinn can be and Aldon is too small for.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Aldon is too small?
Aldon Smith is listed at 6’4" 263 lbs.
Robert Quinn is listed at 6’4" 265 lbs.
There are ways to make an argument for Quinn being a better prospect than Smith, but size difference is not one of them.
Frame. Quinns frame is huge. He could easily be get up to 285.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Because we want our OLB to be 285lbs...
Kellen Moore is awesome
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Im not competitive I just addicted to winning.
Tamba hali
6’3" 275 and not as fast as Quinn.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Tend to lose speed when you get heavier
Kellen Moore is awesome
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Im not competitive I just addicted to winning.
true but I doubt it would make Quinn lose 2/10ths
In gaining 10 lbs
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Aldon Smith actually looks like he can also pack on another 10-15 lbs without losing a step
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Don't see it like I see it in Quinn
but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
but yes I do acceed to the validity of the above statement
I should have noted Quinn’s frame is more DE prototypical.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
except any number of reports are saying that the Texans were going to grab him at 11....
by HaloFanInDC on Apr 28, 2011 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
that may be true. i'm not disagreeing with the pick the texans made
watt will be solid for them, but personally i believe if they were both there they go with aldon. i actually had jj falling to new england.
Aldon safer?
I’m sorry but I must courteously disagree. He has potential, but will need lots of polishing.
No, seriously, Fuck the Dodgers.
by Stoney Montana on Apr 28, 2011 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Safer in a sense.
I should have clarified, but I thought the reason Quinn dropped is because of his tumor issue and the sitting out a year of college. Not safer in terms of on field polishing.
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he played with a broken leg last year, many people had him rated high first round and being drafted at number 11, and when he played with a broken leg he still played at a fairly high level. he also does not seem to have any character concerns
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I think character and desire to play also had something to do with the pick and nothing is more serious than a brain tumor, especially playing a sport
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
with so many concussions
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep.
I understand the people’s frustration if they don’t think he’s worth the seventh pick, but if you don’t like your trade down options, there’s no guarantee the player you like will be available if you do. Today was proof of that. My only dislike was I thought Amukamara would’ve been a good pick.
I see this point
I think people saying this is a huge reach aren’t being that realistic. It wouldn’t have surprised anyone if Smith had gone to Houston at #11… for him to go four picks earlier than that is not a huge reach. Maybe Quinn is better, or maybe he didn’t fit a 3-4, maybe the Niners were worried about medical issues. The point is, it’s not like Quinn was an order of magnitude better than Smith, and it’s not like he was definitely a better fit for the Niners system. This is one of those “wait and see” picks. Can’t judge it until we see how this kid with TONS of potential pans out.
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by Smoke on the Water on Apr 28, 2011 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
HIDING COMMENTS
I hid that string of comments. I’ll continue to do so if people turn this into a personal battle. Disagree with each other, fine. But act like civilized adults or stop egging a person on.
lets hope they make a big slash tomorrow
with a QB (dalton) and a DE ( Da’Quan Bowers)
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You need to drink more ovaltine
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yay....let's murder our picks!
and double-homicide @ that
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Which position would Bowers play in our defense?
by SanFranciscoKnights on Apr 28, 2011 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Dalton doesn't have the ceiling to be anything more than a backup
and Bowers plays a position we don’t even have.
We already ruined our draft. There is not likely to be a #1 corner worth picking at 45. The only redemption we can find at this point is if Kaepernick falls to us. And the Raiders are likely going to take him.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
My hopes for Round 2 tomorrow
QB Stanzi, CB Curtis Brown, DE/OLB Jabaal Sheard
Harbaugh can turn any QB into a great one. He's a QB guru, even if he's only been a head coach at the college ranks.
I like Patrick and House over Brown, by a mile, but Brown is not a bad pick IMO if they're gone.
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IMO Brown is the best man to man coverage corner in the draft. VERY high on him
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by BustaTheRippa on Apr 28, 2011 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I really don’t see that, after watching a couple hours of him, but I don’t think the 49ers would be doing themselves dirty by drafting him.
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I like Burton, Brown and House at CB, Dalton or Kaepernick at QB, and there are some interesting WR and NT still on the board as well (Titus Young, Greg Little, Paea).
Interestingly, there are also some damn good pass rushers still available as well. But it would be really surprising if the Niners doubled up there with as many other needs as they have (but can you imagine Aldon and Brooks Reed screaming in off the edges on 3rd downs? Too many other needs to really consider it, but sheesh, that would be kinda cool).
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by Smoke on the Water on Apr 28, 2011 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Policy of policing seem's to vary at time's , such as now ... !!
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by MichaelClutchtree on Apr 28, 2011 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Bro , i get it you don't care for the way i post, you can choose to ignore me or just move on !!
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Drew is once again incorrect on Ponder.
Not flaming, but you’re just running off at the mouth. Ponder was expecting to be picked at 10 by the Redskins or 16 by the Jags. The Vikings had an all-day meeting in Tallahassee recently as well.
The writer for the Dallas paper who has the reputation as the best mock drafter of all time had Ponder going at #10.
Wes Bunting had Ponder as the top QB in the draft.
I get that you don’t like Ponder, and there’s a chance he won’t succeed, but there’s no need to lie to your readers by saying nobody had him going in the first round when multiple respected draft sources did just that.
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by Bud Elliott on Apr 28, 2011 9:09 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm incorrect?
I hadn’t realized he played a single down in the NFL yet. It was a major reach and everyone in their right mind knows it.
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You were incorrect about no one pegging him as a 1st rounder, genius. own up for your mistake.
Harbaugh can turn any QB into a great one. He's a QB guru, even if he's only been a head coach at the college ranks.
by BustaTheRippa on Apr 28, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
same thing
Adding genius is clearly meant to instigate and you know this. It’s not helping the situation.
by David Fucillo on Apr 28, 2011 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Believe I've earned that one
He’s had about 10 name calls thrown my way before I got that one in.
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by BustaTheRippa on Apr 28, 2011 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I understand that
And I’m not here to say he’s justified in name-calling either. Two wrongs don’t make a right and just because somebody calls you a name doesn’t give you free reign to do the same. Why can’t people act like grownups here. This is not directed at you specifically or Drew specifically. This is directed at everybody that acts childish behind the anonymity of the Internet.
by David Fucillo on Apr 28, 2011 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
come on...
In responding to Bud’s comment, there’s no need for the snide first sentence.
by David Fucillo on Apr 28, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
can both you blokes man up and stop reducing this discussion to child's play...
i mean, for f**k’s sake, drew made an incorrect statement, fair enough, you corrected him, cool. drew, take it on the chin, and busta, pull your head in and lets all act like civilised adults…i mean, seriously…..
Yes.
You wrote:
Nobody had Ponder pegged as a first rounder. Not even in the bottom half of the first round.
We know that your statement is provably false in every facet. Not only did many mock drafts have him going in the first round above unprepared spread guys who play poor competition like Dalton and Kapernick, but some of the most respected guys had him going in the top 15, which is in the top half.
Now it’s either laziness or just a vendetta against the player. If hope it’s not laziness because that would mean that you didn’t review any of the mock drafts and draft trends in the last two weeks.
I hope for your readers that is is a vendetta and not laziness.
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come on Drew
In this instance, it was an incorrect statement. I don’t think it’s laziness at all. I just wonder what your thoughts are on the fact that some people were considering him a first round talent (even if he does end up flopping)?
by David Fucillo on Apr 28, 2011 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
What difference does it make?
Some people are just going to call me a “liar” or whatever else they want to. So what? I don’t think highly of a quarterback that didn’t do all that much in college. One player out of how many?
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Thats not anyone's point.
Everyone knows you don’t like Ponder, but stating such is fine. Its when you post information that no one believed he would go in the first round, which was clearly not true, that people believe you are posting biased information of your choosing. Those are completely different things.
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Clarification
I don’t dislike Christian Ponder. I don’t know him. I do not see him being a good or even average starter in the NFL for reason’s that I have stated hundreds of times.
Despite what SOME think, his footwork is not consistent. If you want examples, go to his most recent game in the Senior Bowl where he had two passes that would have made a high school QB look like a better prospect. He short stepped one which caused it to fall short and Hankerson saved his hind parts. The other was a major overstep and overthink. Do you really want your QB doing that? I watched him at Florida State for a couple of years and what he showcased in the Senior Bowl, I had seen before.
He has been injured more than one would want which means he couls be damaged goods.
His decision making is not good. Reference the MIami game where he had 4 chances on the goaline to get the ball in and he blew it. Again, not the first time he had done so.
There is more… and I do not feel like I will be wrong on him. And the folks who are here now promoting him, will not be around at the end of the year when the Vikes finish swimming at the bottom of the rankings in passing offense.
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There is more… and I do not feel like I will be wrong on him. And the folks who are here now promoting him, will not be around at the end of the year when the Vikes finish swimming at the bottom of the rankings in passing offense.
Actually if I’m wrong I will man up and admit it…Something you’re incapable of doing.
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by BustaTheRippa on Apr 28, 2011 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
That was unnecessary
He didn’t say there is no way he’ll be wrong. He simply said he did not think he’d be wrong. This comment is just instigating and you know it. You seriously need to stop with the instigation.
by David Fucillo on Apr 28, 2011 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Not to mention just under Bud's comment here I said I was wrong in where he would be picked.
So what? I don’t get what that proves. Every single major pundit was wrong about some picks. Why is it necessary to single me out? That’s what I don’t get.
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I'm referring to you not admitting you were wrong
in your biased commentary with the false statement.
Harbaugh can turn any QB into a great one. He's a QB guru, even if he's only been a head coach at the college ranks.
by BustaTheRippa on Apr 28, 2011 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Do I need to explain it again
It wasn’t your opinion that was wrong, it was the fact that you mention no one had the guy pegged as a 1st rounder, which is hardly the case.
Harbaugh can turn any QB into a great one. He's a QB guru, even if he's only been a head coach at the college ranks.
by BustaTheRippa on Apr 28, 2011 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you not read what these3words wrote just a few minutes ago?
Pay attention… you might just get it eventually.
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only if niners nation had corners where you can put people in time outs so than can calm down. lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
We do have corners
but they’re full of ads. No room for timeouts.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
by these3words on Apr 28, 2011 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s not nitpicking. That’s calling you out for being massively wrong over and over on this subject. Not surprised you didn’t own up to it. I am surprised that you still won’t own up to it.
I did it before when we discussed this and I told you I would be back when you were wrong.
But I told you you didn’t have all the information when you did your evaluation.
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Like I said before
He has not played a down in the NFL. I may be wrong in where he was picked but the verdict is obviously still out on the rest.
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This post is getting wayyyy out of control.
Trees rule. Don't deny it.
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Look I dont know how the rest of you fell, but I trust Wes Bunting & The People from National Football Post
This is what he said about Aldon Smith:
“I think long term Aldon Smith is as talent and has as much upside as any pass rusher in the class…think he’s going to be a stud for #49ers”
“Aldon Smith is one of the NFP’s favorites…and he will get after the passer in San Fran, no doubt about that #NFLDRAFT”
Wes Bunting also thinks Ponder is a good QB
Which immediately puts his opinion in the crapper.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
So his opinion on one player
ruins all of his credibility? Anyway I think that Ponder was a reach, but is not nearly as terrible as you are making him seem.
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Don’t see that comp myself, see more of an Orakpo style to him
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by BustaTheRippa on Apr 28, 2011 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Coming around on Aldon Smith
He’s a project and could turn out great. I was so so on Quinn and Prince so I’m not going to cry about it. Kinda surprised the 49ers took a project on defense at #7 but at least he has the upside.
Reminds me a lot of the Davis pick
Raw and tons of upside.
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Agree. Might take a few years to tap it out like Davis as well.
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by BustaTheRippa on Apr 28, 2011 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Not to mention incredibly young. Weren’t they both 20/21 when picked?
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My bad
Thought you were talking about Vernon Davis
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by BustaTheRippa on Apr 28, 2011 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
20 is Davis 21 is Smith
they will both be 22 by end of year.
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Wouldn't be surprised if they are both outright busts in 3 years
Much more likely from Anthony I-Whiff Davis though.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
You can’t make a full evaluation of Davis like that based on one season.
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I made it before he ever came into the NFL
Cause he whiffed against mediocre college pass rushers. If you can’t stop mediocre guys in college from beating you clean you’re gonna stop the best guys in the world from beating you clean?
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
you’re gonna stop the best guys in the world from beating you clean?
Admittedly I wasn’t high on him either in college, but what he showed when he shut down elite pass-rushers like Clay Matthews was hopeful.
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Matthews gets his sacks as a result of well executed blitzes
Davis gets beat clean right off the snap by elite DTs. We are going to get MURDERED by the Rams DE’s this year.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm saving this quote btw
Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
Im not competitive I just addicted to winning.
The caveat is there has to actually be a season for me to be right
As I’m acknowledging that right now you can’t use it against me later.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I know
I won’t be stupid about it. Will use the little common sense I have
Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
Im not competitive I just addicted to winning.
Also - If Davis comes into camp at 350+ lbs
I’ll start saying I’m right before the season even starts.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Its sounds like you are rooting for that result.
Which would be sad as they are 49ers now, regardless of your opinions of them.
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I'm definitely not rooting against Smith
I just think it was another horrible job done by our GM. Who I’m about to start advocating we fire.
Davis however I have zero faith in.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Ridiculous upside is not an overstatement
And I do think he’s a perfect fit in a 3-4. And look, generally, you can find good CBs in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Sometimes good QBs too. But pass rushers tend to go FAST. This year was really no exception (obviously not with respect to Bowers but clearly the injury was a factor there).
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by Smoke on the Water on Apr 28, 2011 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
The elite corners you just don't find in later rounds
- corners yes. But not #1s
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
stupid thing
Number 2 corners yes. But not #1s
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
agreed
I’m pretty excited about the new LB coach from South Florida
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by Smoke on the Water on Apr 28, 2011 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
He is young but
he is not a project. This guy is a beast and he would have been rated above Quinn if he didnt have the broken leg which slowed but didnt stop his development. When they get him in the weight room tackles around the league will need to take out extra collision insurance.
You realize guys that come from big programs have had elite strength and speed programs already right?
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
But the young bucs aren’t as smart in college as in the NFL. Just about every college player ever drafted gets in the NFL and says, whoah, this is faster and more intense than I expected!
(Re the conflicting Harbaugh reports:) If you were to pass Harbaugh's $50,000 bathroom this week, you'd hear raucous laghter. The source? The man himself laughing his face off as he fires off "anonymous" tweets and texts from "sources" to the prominent beat writers and media folk.
by Riding The F Train on Apr 28, 2011 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
There's a Reason
Boone showed up out of shape one year, then totally ripped the next. And that reason has nothing to do with alchohol.
(Re the conflicting Harbaugh reports:) If you were to pass Harbaugh's $50,000 bathroom this week, you'd hear raucous laghter. The source? The man himself laughing his face off as he fires off "anonymous" tweets and texts from "sources" to the prominent beat writers and media folk.
by Riding The F Train on Apr 28, 2011 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Um it has everything to do with alcohol
Dude was a 5 star recruit out of high school that played well in college and rank his way all the way out of the draft.
buzzzzz That was the sound of you being completely wrong. Sorry try again next year.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think Smith is any more of a project than Quinn
Both are young guys with only 2 years of experience in college. Both guys played as 4-3 DE’s with their hand on the ground during their collegiate careers. Converting either guy to a 3-4 OLB was going to be a bit of a project.
A lot of people thought A Davis was a reach too
Trent’s strategy seems to be to make sure he gets the player he wants, regardless of what other teams and/or draftnicks think.
Another similarity with Davis is he is young with a bit of upside.
Considering Anthony Davis got our QB injured last year,
and continues to whiff at least 2 or 3 times a game, I’m pretty sure Robert Quinn or Chris Long will put whoever we put at QB next season in a body bag.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
At this point I hope he goes to the Cards
And absolutely lights us up.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
durrr drew taking credit for fooch’s work what a tool durrrrrrrr
DURRRRRRRRRRRRR
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by MichaelClutchtree on Apr 28, 2011 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
This post is coming up short on the recap, analysis, and thoughts on tomorrow
Lets talk draft…….who is left on the big board for potential picks tomorrow
Plenty more on that tomorrow
I asked Drew to break it up into two posts.
by David Fucillo on Apr 28, 2011 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
One of the CBs is likely,
Harris, Ras-I or Williams from Texas. That is unless the Niners fall in love with a QB like Dalton or Colin K, but both could be gone when the Niners pick.
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Balke drafts for upside because he believes in our coaching staff.
We have arguably the best o-line coach in the NFL right now in Mike Solari, so we draft young linemen with upside. We get a new DC who really likes to rush his OLBs, so he drafts a young OLB with tons of upside.
COACHING WINS, without them no one is a sure fire pick in the draft.
Arguably the best line coach in the NFL?
He got kicked out of Seattle less than 2 years ago. Solari is alright but come on… exaggeration being exaggerated here.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks like the Saints finally drafted their Heisman winning running back
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by MichaelClutchtree on Apr 28, 2011 9:23 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
that took me 25 seconds to get, lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Aldon Smith
While I would have preferred Amukamara or Quinn, I think Aldon Smith is good. The comparisons in earlier threads about him being Manny Lawson 2.0, IMO, are way off target. Highlight videos aren’t the best analysis tools, but from what little I’ve seen…he has good pass-rushing moves and he knows what to do with his body. Unlike Lawson who was more of an opportunistic pass rusher in college and in the pros, Smith uses rips, bull rushes and every other way to get to the QB. Lawson seems more like a speed rusher who is playing smaller than he really is. Lawson is a lanky 6’5" 240 lb who doesn’t seem to know what to do with his body, while Smith is a stout 6’4" 263 lbs who knows exactly what to do with the length he has. I have no idea how he’ll do, but I’m confident in our choice…that’s just my opinion.
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Smith uses rips, bull rushes and every other way to get to the QB
Yep. Exactly.
And also, Smith’s frame is 6’4 260, Manny was 6’5 240. They’re really not similar at all in playing style.
Harbaugh can turn any QB into a great one. He's a QB guru, even if he's only been a head coach at the college ranks.
by BustaTheRippa on Apr 28, 2011 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
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What are the similarities?
Not questioning your judgement, just curious.
It seems to me Smith is easily the better talent at rushing the passer with his array of moves but Man-Law is easily the better cover backer and sets the edge better than Aldon does.
Maybe the fact that both have long arms?
Harbaugh can turn any QB into a great one. He's a QB guru, even if he's only been a head coach at the college ranks.
by BustaTheRippa on Apr 28, 2011 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
They both have extremely good hips and are athletic, that’s why I think Aldon Smith is a good guy to play OLB. Can get around the corner well, which is about the only thing Lawson has going for him as a pass rusher, big hands with solid field presence to try and affect the way in any way possible (think getting his hands in the air to break up a pass right in the face of the QB)
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So you basically say he has the hips of Lawson but the awesomeness of Willis?
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I don’t know about “extremely good”, but that’s a lot closer than Mayock’s opinion of “really tight hips”.
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"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Mmmmm I wonder how mayock knows how tight his hips are
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by MichaelClutchtree on Apr 28, 2011 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions
You can tell from certain drills.
Some drills are meant to test hips. At least that what I assume.
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The joke went over your head buddy.
But from what I’ve seen, yes I wouldn’t say he’s fluid like a DB, but he’s plenty good enough. He’s not the type who would stumble when trying to turn around. He’s more than agile enough.
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"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
If it is possible I would love to write a post about Smith or the entire draft process.
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Wanna throw in a kitteh pic just for me? Kidding kidding. I would definitely give it a read and give my input…wanted or not
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"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
I don't want just a basic fanpost
anyone can do that. I will do some detailed research on it. I have to think about what though.
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Similar to your Jake Locker post? Either way I would read it…it’s going to be a long off-season..what else would there be to do?
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"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Ya I will try that.
Will try how many pass rushers and what happened. Time to find the mizzou games. :) Might do something about stopping the run. How many runs to his side and how far they went.
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Dude you’re going to have like no sleep. I remember you sifting through those Washington games. QB is one thing, DE is a whole different story while also projecting how he’s going to do as an OLB in our new system. Ouch.
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"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
It will take a little bit of work.
But it will be worth it. If you guys know of any email me them. My email is in my profile.
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also does not seem to be any character concerns
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Their transition from 4-3 DE to 3-4 OLB. Athletic for their position. I think that’s it. Oh right and like you said, their freakish length.
He even fills a need we’ve been debating on all off-season. We need an OLB who can get to the QB. BOOM! Here he is. Yes, we need incredible help with the secondary, but we also can’t consistently give QB’s 5 seconds in the pocket. Seriously, I remember the last couple of months people have been begging for a pass rush. Here he is. A natural pass-rusher.
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
late in fourth quarters
when teams are driving on us, not any more- sacked by Aldon Smith.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Does anyone know where I can get a list of trades in this draft?
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here's one
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/news/story?id=6445186
No, seriously, Fuck the Dodgers.
by Stoney Montana on Apr 28, 2011 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank you very much man
I appreciate it.
Kellen Moore is awesome
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No prob
just happened to have a tab opened
No, seriously, Fuck the Dodgers.
by Stoney Montana on Apr 28, 2011 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
wikipedia
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
finishing up your 2011 mock draft?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
All BS aside...this was a good pick
We filled a need with a good player. We shouldn’t wreck our draft to move up or down if the deal isn’t right. Quinn has more than the brain tumor going on to have fallen that far, and may be a risk. I wasn’t sold on any of the QB’s that were there to be taken this year other than Cam Newton (and even he isn’t a surefire lock to be great).
Despite playing in a winnable division, we are nowhere near being legit playoff contenders. We still have holes on defense. We need a WR, and for Crabs to step the hell up. We need the O-line to become a true unit. And while we do need a QB…..
….we don’t need to take one for the sake of taking one. We need the RIGHT QB. Someone that the staff believes in and can develop. If that’s Kapernick or Dalton or Devlin or Stanzi, cool. If it isn’t, let’s ride one more year with Alex (cannot believe i’m saying this) and see what happens. We can’t afford another miss at the QB position, so I’d rather not take one if there are too many doubts than to take one, be wrong, and find our beloved Niners set back even further than they are today
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Niner checklist
1. GM (check)
2. A real head coach (check)
3. A competent coaching staff(check)
4. Two QB's (one to navigate this year, and a franchise QB for the future)
5. IMPROVE THE DANG SECONDARY!!!!!
by ronniemac03 on Apr 28, 2011 9:31 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Quinn fell to the next team with the same need
That didn’t make a mistake.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I think...
that this guy right here knows everything. he obviously knows more than all of us and our feeble little minds. get Baalke out here immediately because he needs to be scouting our players for us, obviously.
by HappyHourSomewhere on Apr 28, 2011 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank you for noticing the obvious
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
wrong. i don't know everything, far from it
i’m just happy with the pick we made, and i think he’ll add alot of value to the roster. quinn, for mine, with his medical history and being away from the game for a season, plus the NFL’s situation legally, makes him a precarious pick. if he works out for the rams, they got a wonderful steal that we’ll have to live with two games a season. if he doesn’t, we ‘gambled’ wisely…
he replyed to me
And he’s absolutely correct in his assessment.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Thats a different situation
besides operating in a different scheme and the fact that monetarily there is a big difference between 7 & 14. The Doctors may not have signed off on him and if your doctors dont sign off on a player you got to trust them.
Plus Quinn would be a secondary pass rusher to Chris Long while Aldon will be looked at as the primary pass rusher in San Fran’s 3-4. Maybe the Rams were comfortable with that fact
by Lok on Apr 28, 2011 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The doctors likely did not sign off on him because of the tumor
But thats our fault for listening to them worry about the chance that MAYBE, possibly, this benign tumor somehow ends his life. It didn’t even stop Quinn from winning a state championship in wrestling a couple months after he had it treated.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
4-3 vs. 3-4 with Quinn might have made a big difference
There’s no doubt he can rush the passer and I think he’ll be really good for St. Louis in their scheme (unfortunately)… but I think it’s certainly debatable whether he would be better than Aldon Smith in our scheme…The Niners weighed the two and picked their guy. We’ll see how it turns out.
Niners have had some good luck with Mizzou defenders in the past (Justin Smith, Eric Wright)… lets hope Aldon Smith can be another in that line.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Apr 28, 2011 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
(I should also admit that Mizzou is my second favorite college team and was my favorite when I was a kid… so I might be a little bit biased on this one ;) )
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by Smoke on the Water on Apr 28, 2011 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
rec'ed plus 10 except for the comments about cam newton.
newton will be tied with russel for the biggest draft bust ever
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
up to now I was thinking the niners HAD to draft a qb... your post makes a lot of sense.
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Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Apr 29, 2011 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Some fun facts
For those wondering, Baalke said that he wouldn’t think of trading Aldon Smith. Said wouldn’t draft him if he was going to be traded. @slam
GM Trent Baalke said the 49ers had no opportunity to trade back from No. 7. There were talks, but nothing concrete, he said. @matt
Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
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You say James Carpenter may have sold his soul to the devil?
I say James Carpenter gave McBooFoo a reaaaaally nice bottle of scotch.
Best case scenario for the top 6 picks:
1Car Dareus, 2Den Fairley, 3Buf Newton: 4Cin Jones 5Ari Gabbert 6Cle Bowers
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Not sold on any of the remaining QBs
I would be ok if we dont take 1 until day 3. I dont think you should force a pick based need, especially at QB. If there is no one there, find a QB another way.
kaepernick and dalton are two of my favorite qbs in this draft.
stanzi also. would love the niners to draft one of them in the second.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Haven't seen it mentioned yet Drew,
you talk about the Chiefs at pick number 21. Should be the Browns there.
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Eleanor Rigby - "Greatest Song" or "The Greatest Song"?
Meh, maybe it's just my screen.
Though I’m not sure how that could be possible.
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Eleanor Rigby - "Greatest Song" or "The Greatest Song"?
I for one would like to apologize for my tasteless New York Jets Muhammad joke in the last thread. The guy asked for a tasteless joke and I gave it so no one else would.
Can’t wait to see him play in his first game to see if he’s really that good.
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by MichaelClutchtree on Apr 28, 2011 9:36 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
He is.
Kid is a stud. I think he’s better than Liuget. Though they are similar.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Taking a quick fan base poll
Vikings: Absolutely split on Ponder, either a great pick or the worst pick
Falcons: Thought they gave up too much but are dreaming of SB chances
Cardinals: Loved the Peterson pick, loved it
Rams: Feel fortunate Quinn was able to drop
Field Gulls: Trying hard to justify the pick
Titans: Shocked, lots of Locker/Gabbert comparisons, glad to kick VY out the door
Panthers: Some what approval for Newton pick, some dissent but majority approve.
Vikings = 5 years from now on DailyNorseman they will have Ponder as their all time #1 draft bust
Falcons = Definitely thinking super bowl. Julio makes that offense absolutely dynamic… And its further evidence that this draft is extremely shallow.
Cards = We should have traded up to 4
Rams = Will absolutely murder our tackles and QB this year
Seachickens = UM
Titans = Locker has the same exciting style of play as Young, with better accuracy and he’s not nuts.
Panthers = Que sCam’s descent in the Jamarcus Ruffles lifestyle.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
locker is probably the opposite in personality of vy
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Rams and Cardinals both definitely improved today
But the Rams worry we more. Spagnuolo is slowly but surely building a good D to complement Bradford there. Peterson is a better prospect than Quinn, but as far as matchups, I don’t think that matters as much because we’re still going to try and run the ball down their throats. The Rams though… Davis and Staley had better be ready to play next year.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Apr 28, 2011 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
*worry me more
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Apr 28, 2011 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
YOU ARE NOW BANNED FOREVERMORE FOR YOUR HORRIBLE TRANSGRESSIONS
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YOU MONSTER! I Will stand up to you and defend the little people! RAWR
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(psst, you’re a little people)
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I….hmm you’re right about that. Then I shall stand up to you for my little people brothers! You will not get away with this injustice you fiend!
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
I want Davon House…just because he’s a Niner fan
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House will be a pro bowler. Book it.
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I still got a C
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Then how come you’re not banned?? Seriously what was that joke about in a community draft anyway?
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"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
I drafted two CBs in 2 rounds
Got Prince and House
Kellen Moore is awesome
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Yeah, I know I was lurking. I remember you yelling out “JUST BAN ME NOW” or something
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"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Haha
did I say that I don’t remember
Kellen Moore is awesome
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Im not competitive I just addicted to winning.
LOL
All of your picks were being taken(the QB’s), though you DID forget about Marvin Austin ya know.
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I thought he was taken as well.
I was like are you kidding me.
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“The 49ers select Davon House CB”
Eruption of “WTF??” “Another one?” Back-to-back CB’s?" “BAN NAOW”
Next Pick: “Marvin Austin”
I was cracking up
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I thought we needed two CBs
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I didn’t mind, but I also realized we probably needed to fill other needs too
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No one else had decent value
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/cough Marvin Austin /cough
Wasn’t Justin Houston available? PONDER?? jk There were a few that people started spouting about after the pick.
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"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Ya I wasn't paying full attention was in SF
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I don’t blame you, I was multi-tasking watching the Giants game, posting on the Game Thread, and reading along the community draft
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"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Nobody drafted Ponder in our draft
(Because he’s not a good QB)
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
That was right before he picked House
because Ponder was still on the board.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Ooooh
I hate Ponder so much. No way I was going to pick him.
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Exactly
I’d have taken a ban before picking him as well
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm ok with the Aldon Smith pick
Scratching my head a little but it’s not the end of the world. Mostly I’m saying to myself “Thank God it wasn’t Gabbert”
final thoughts..
a. smith = potentially awesome, but total reach.
talent & value are mututally exclusive. yeah, a. smith looks like a keeper, but it seems like the niners could have had him muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch later.
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Apr 28, 2011 9:42 PM PDT reply actions
Think Houston takes him at 11 instead of Watt
Harbaugh can turn any QB into a great one. He's a QB guru, even if he's only been a head coach at the college ranks.
by BustaTheRippa on Apr 28, 2011 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Houston would have gone with Watt
And the Rams would have still taken Quinn. And even if he DID go… We’d have still had the 15th or 16th and had Prince.
Absolutely horrible start to the draft FIRE BAALKE
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think Houston takes Watt over Smith. And the Rams DEFINITELY would have taken Smith over Quinn, that’s how I’ve felt for weeks now. I mean, this is just my opinion. But I cannot see him making it past fourteen, and more than likely, he’s gone at eleven. Houston liked him a lot.
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You think Smith is viable as a DE or a 4-3 OLB?
Quinn is a monster DE. There is no chance they take Smith over Quinn
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
They liked Smith a lot and every indication was that they’d take him. Every indication I trust anyway. And yes, I do.
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by James Brady on Apr 28, 2011 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I say he’s gone at 11 or 14.
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Possibly the Redskins at 10 also.
by SanFranciscoKnights on Apr 28, 2011 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
And the way the draft went,
who can really say for sure? He might have been around, or he could have been long gone.
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Anyway, I really like this pick.
Plus, it’s looking like there will be a ton of good prospects to choose from at the CB and NT positions in rounds two and three. Drafts shaping up quite well for us thus far. Love the Lions pick, Suh and Fairly will be nasty together. [Jealous Face]
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Really, Burton over Brown.
Burton strikes me as a nickel guy at best. Just my opinion though.
Harbaugh can turn any QB into a great one. He's a QB guru, even if he's only been a head coach at the college ranks.
by BustaTheRippa on Apr 28, 2011 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually no, that was me mis-typing, haha. Brown over Burton, but I think Burton has more potential than you say.
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You definitely don't like Dowling I guess
Considering he’s the best tackler of any CB in this class, (Including Peterson), and he’s fast and skilled in coverage… I’ll take him over anybody on that list.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Dowling will probably be there as well. And Marvin Austin maybe?
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Anyone who can run an electronically time 4.4 40 yarder while pulling up from a pulled hamstring…at 6’2 210 lbs is money in my book. Plus, a second rounder isn’t too big of a risk. He’s talented, just unlucky with injuries. Marvin Austin on the other hand…dude is an athletic beast at his size…that’s all I know about him. LDE maybe?
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If worst comes to worst, he would still be a pretty good safety at his size. Having two first round prospects drop to our second round pick back-to-back would be awesome.
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And now we have a really good Secondary Coach. If Mays can even turn into half the player Polamalu or Ronnie Lott are/were…that would do wonders for the team.
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Just haven’t had time to respond while dealing with this thread and a couple other things. About to respond.
by David Fucillo on Apr 28, 2011 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions
He looked slightly confused and annoyed during the press conference.
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An OLB in the first.....WT@!
O.K., call me crazy, but what gives? For the record, I voted for Julio Jones being the biggest headscratcher. Not because he went to Atl. But, because of what they gave up to get him. Somewhere Mike Ditka’s got to be thinking to himself…“This may not end well.” Remenicent of when he traded away ALL of N.O. draft picks for 1 year to get Ricky Williams. And we all know how well THAT ONE turned out. But, I digress…Truth be told, No, I am not an NFL insider, nor do I work for “The Mothership” in an NFL capacity. However,for the Niners to get an “Outside Rusher” NOT named Von Miller (who was well gone by the time we piced anyway, made me think….HUH?!!! O.K., so Arizona pulled a cheap one and plucked what everyone knew was our 1st choice in PP. But, how in the world do we pass on guys we need, like, 2 years ago in Prince Amukamara, (db) or Christian Ponder (qb), or how about that change of pace back we’ve been so deperate for in Mark Ingram? (I was just as shocked as all of you he lasted till 28.) But, If we really needed some help off the edge, why not pick up that man-child De’Qwuan Bowers? He’s small enough to play end, and could put on enough weight to play DT. At this point, I really don;t know what to expect out of this FO anymore. the holes we have still haven’t been filled, and if moves like this are any indication, we may be looking at the Niners sinking YET ANOTHER season, in the hopes we can pick up Luck. Definately NOT a propect look forward to.
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It was down to arguably the second best OLB or arguably the second best CB. The 49ers looked and decided that Nate Clements and Shawntae Spencer was better than Parys Haralson and nobody. So they went OLB, with a guy they could build around. The defense is key here, Fangio needs aggression, he needs an OLB.
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by James Brady on Apr 28, 2011 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry....
Look hard at the Jets over the past 2 seasons. Because they didn’t need to worry too much about their opponents #1 or #2 WO killing them for big yards on EVERY play, Rex could gamble more with his blitz schemes. The benefit of having Revis and last year Cromartie at the corners. We already could muster a fairly good pass rush with the guys we had. They also could stuff the run with the best of them. It was through the AIR we got torched game in and game out. And it wasn’t all Clements. Neither Spencer, (who has been here a good min.) nor Brown, Mays, or Goldson could stop a nose bleed much less a good passing offense. But, I love your arguement. You make some good points.
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by DarkkStarr1 on Apr 29, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
OLB was one of our biggest needs. Manny is a FA and who else do we have that’s viable? Parys? Brooks? Yeah I wanted Prince, but the FO probably saw something they didn’t like. We can get a QB in the next round. All is not yet lost. It was only one round. Bowers is a 4-3 DT/DE. He slips blockers, he doesn’t try to take up space while collapsing the pocket. We’ll be fine.
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Well Prince was passed by 18 teams. I’m not sure we know the whole story on him or that he would necessarily be a better prospect than Aldon Smith.
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by FearTheTree on Apr 28, 2011 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
But, how in the world do we pass on guys we need, like, 2 years ago in Prince Amukamara, (db) or Christian Ponder (qb), or how about that change of pace back we’ve been so deperate for in Mark Ingram?
I’ll agree that Prince would have been a good pick at #7, but he fell all the way to #19 when all was said and done. Ponder at #7 would have been a HUGE overdraft. And did you really suggest taking a #2 RB in the 1st round? Wow.
why not pick up that man-child De’Qwuan Bowers?
You do know we run a 3-4 right (Bowers doesn’t fit a 3-4)? And that Bowers has a bum knee? Which is why he fell out of the 1st round completely.
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by Hoopers Judge on Apr 28, 2011 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, forgot to note that. Bowers is absolutely not a 3-4 OLB under any circumstances.
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by James Brady on Apr 28, 2011 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
and has a whiff of the "gholston" in him
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1. GM (check)
2. A real head coach (check)
3. A competent coaching staff(check)
4. Two QB's (one to navigate this year, and a franchise QB for the future)
5. IMPROVE THE DANG SECONDARY!!!!!
by ronniemac03 on Apr 28, 2011 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok....
but, yuo mean to tell me that Sop is the key at DE fo rus, and with Abrayoobviously on the outs at DT, we could use someone else like Justin on the opposing side.
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by DarkkStarr1 on Apr 29, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Holmgren is starting to look like a very good GM
by SanFranciscoKnights on Apr 28, 2011 10:06 PM PDT reply actions
Switching between NFLN and ESPN
both are basically skipping over the 49ers pick to talk about the ones around it.
Maybe that’s a good thing. Big headlines dont make great players, but great coaching can. In Harbaugh we trust.
When does the draft start tomorrow (PST)?
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8:00 AM
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by Hoopers Judge on Apr 28, 2011 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
So only the first round is primetime?
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by FearTheTree on Apr 28, 2011 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Mistake.
Coverage starts at 8:00 AM. The actually draft starts at 3:00 PM.
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by Hoopers Judge on Apr 28, 2011 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Do they really have coverage for 7 hours?
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by FearTheTree on Apr 28, 2011 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
On NFL Network.
Don’t know about ESPN.
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by Hoopers Judge on Apr 28, 2011 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
3pm
I’m fairly certain it’s 3pm pacific
by David Fucillo on Apr 28, 2011 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
3 pm EST
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by FearTheTree on Apr 28, 2011 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
PST*
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by FearTheTree on Apr 28, 2011 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
6pm EST, 3pm PST
east → central → mountain → pacific = 3 hours
by uspsuperman on Apr 28, 2011 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I am on AZ time so our time never changes.
Always throws me off
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haha. yeah, no daylight savings right now. you have a bunch of months to wait for the change
by uspsuperman on Apr 28, 2011 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
4 time zones in the US 3 hour difference
Pac, Mountain, Central, Least Coast
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
And Alaska, Hawaii.
Alaska is a state, dammit! Can I get a Niner game on TV up here?
by kinglouie33 on Apr 28, 2011 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks.
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by FearTheTree on Apr 28, 2011 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Rounds 4-7 start at 9:00 AM on Saturday.
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by Hoopers Judge on Apr 28, 2011 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
The Bills were pretty good with addressing the Run D in Marcell Dareus
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Detroit, Saints, Browns for me
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by FearTheTree on Apr 28, 2011 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Has anyone seen pics of Christian Ponder's girlfriend?
WOWWWWWWWWWWW…. I’d post a pic up, but not sure if I am allowed to…
with the 7th overall pick in the 2012 NFL Draft. The San Francisco 49ers select.......
Jeebus.
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by FearTheTree on Apr 28, 2011 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
please
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
ohhh my!

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by afrikabamboodle on Apr 29, 2011 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Like the Aldon Smith pick.
Was he a reach? Yes, but 5-10 picks early isn’t bad in the grand scheme of things. But after watching all the picks, I can’t help but feel teams had completely different draft boards than fans/analysts did. Locker at 8? Ponder at 12? James Carpenter in the first 2 rounds? Solder going to the Pats? Cameron Jordan and Prince Amukamara falling like rocks? Da’Quan Bowers falling out of the 1st entirely? Seems like fans/analysts know very little about what teams want or look for in players.
Back to Smith. I think he’ll be the stud OLB that we’ve been needing on the defense like a hobo needs a park bench. The only concerns I have are if he’ll be an immediate force or if he’ll need to develop into a great rusher.
Hopefully we can re-sign Manny Lawson to play strong-side OLB (covering the TEs and RBs) while Aldon Smith plays the weak-side (pass rush). Also we need to get a CB in the 2nd. Maybe a Brandon Harris or Ras-I Dowling?
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hey
I like park benches
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah it was a huge shocker and showed fans/analysts that no one really knows what teams are thinking.
But this is all I have to say about Smith. We need to be patient with him. He will be very good for us, but it will take time. Demarcus Ware took a couple of years to develop, not that I’m saying they’re the same player…but that it will take time.
Yes, we need to re-sign Manny. And we should target Davon House as well as those other two.
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I embrace it...
I think he will be a really solid outside linebacker. He has a bunch of upside. I believe that Fangio is going to try and mold him in to a Clay Matthews type of rusher. He is just as fast and pretty close to as fierce.
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I like the kid
I just think once again Baalke failed us in the 1st round.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
The trend I sense is that Baalke is drafting first round for guys with loads of upside
Anthony Davis and Aldon Smith are both young players who need lots more development. Mike Iupati has great physical tools but needed help with his technique.
Solder was the #2 OT on my board
His ceiling is super high. But as Mayock pointed out, (and I agree with him here), being that tall you gotta have great knee bend or you’ll get smashed backwards against the bullrush. He’s developmental but the Pats can afford that.
Locker at 8 was a better pick than Gabbert at 8. Ponder is gonna bust horrifically. Somebody just lost their job with the Vikings. Cam Jordan and Prince didn’t fall on talent concerns just didn’t get picked because of need. (Aaron Rodgers fell into the 20s lets not forget.) Bowers is limited by scheme AND by a bum knee. So him falling wasn’t surprising… All the way out of the 1st? A bit surprising.
James Carpenter… I really don’t know what was going through the Seachickens minds in making that pick.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually agree with you about Locker
I don’t think that was all that surprising a pick. Ponder now? That was stunning. The James Carpenter pick came out of nowhere too.
I’m not suggesting players fell because of talent, but that some teams passed on Cam Jordan and Amukamara when I thought they should of picked them. But Solder going to the Pats isn’t bad, just came out nowhere. They could of used a Guard/Center before a Tackle.
The QB selections boggled my mind though. I liked Ponder and Locker in the 2nd, not the first half of the 1st. I believe Ponder doesn’t have the extreme upside to be an early 1st pick while Locker will take longer then a 1st round pick should.
I also thought a team late in the 1st would gamble on Bowers and his knee. He could be steal in the 2nd though.
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by Hoopers Judge on Apr 28, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Team late in the 1st who will gamble on Bowers
NE’s draft pick is up for grabs.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Christian Ponder's girlfriend. it has nothing to do with the Niners, BUT just had to put this up...

with the 7th overall pick in the 2012 NFL Draft. The San Francisco 49ers select.......
by Giants49war on Apr 28, 2011 10:21 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
hello
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Obligatory rec
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by FearTheTree on Apr 28, 2011 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
jeff garcia got a good one also
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
robot
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
robots have feelings too!! … if they are programmed in.
by uspsuperman on Apr 28, 2011 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
that part had a virus so it ws removed. lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s asexual.
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by FearTheTree on Apr 28, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Peyton Manning is married
http://www.athleteswives.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/peyton-mannings-wife-ashley-02.jpg
Kellen Moore is awesome
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I wish I was taller so i could play QB
Kellen Moore is awesome
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I love that she doesn’t look like a bimbo
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by FearTheTree on Apr 28, 2011 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Why am I more attracted to the more demure looking ones? o_o
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Because they look like an average guy could get them?
I mean Peyton Manning isn’t the best looking guy out there. Granted he’s incredibly funny and incredibly wealthy but he’s kind of ugly.
Because they aren’t bimbos
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by FearTheTree on Apr 28, 2011 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
What you and smiley said. There are only two women who I am attracted to who are consensus drop-dead gorgeous “I would give anything to be with her” type females. Mila Kunis and Scarlett Johansson.
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At least he has that to fall back on...
Or she may do what Steve Nash’s wife did once she finds out he’ll bust.
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If I didn’t hate the “I’m orange” look, she’d be really pretty. But right now, it looks like I’d get some sort of poisoning and die if I kissed her.
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by James Brady on Apr 28, 2011 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
awesome lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
She does look pseudo-alien.
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by FearTheTree on Apr 28, 2011 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
the true story behind the movie Species
by uspsuperman on Apr 28, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn
Do you know if she has a sister?
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by FearTheTree on Apr 28, 2011 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
wow
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
FSU’s 3rd stringer is dating her little sister in the sorority (or was)
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by Bud Elliott on Apr 28, 2011 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
Im not competitive I just addicted to winning.
Ponder should have been FSU's 3rd stringer
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
/drewk
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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by Bud Elliott on Apr 28, 2011 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
C'mon... I said 2nd string behind Manuel who will be a stud next year.
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Hope you can get down here to see EJ in person, though I guess he’ll be on tv a lot.
His arm is now much bigger than Ponder’s, where before it was weak. After the shoulder surgery they completely re-tooled his motion. EJ’s really having to learn to throw with such a big arm. It’s a bit like the movie major league.
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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by Bud Elliott on Apr 28, 2011 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Get it straight
I think Ponder sucks more than Drew K does. And yes your backup absolutely is better. Probably the 3rd stringer too, though I can’t say that honestly with the surety that I can say your 2nd stringer is better.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Here was my 50 in 50 piece on him for anyone that wants to take a look back
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Speaking of pieces,
this one is a bit off on pick number 21, which is just mixed up some.
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Eleanor Rigby - "Greatest Song" or "The Greatest Song"?
Right, and the Browns picked Taylor.
But you wrote it as though the Chiefs were picking up the NT that they need.
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Eleanor Rigby - "Greatest Song" or "The Greatest Song"?
No problem.
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Eleanor Rigby - "Greatest Song" or "The Greatest Song"?
good call...
I’ll get that back up front at some point.
by David Fucillo on Apr 28, 2011 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
so i take it you like him then, based on that article
by uspsuperman on Apr 28, 2011 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
wow the guy has some serious motor!
with the 7th overall pick in the 2012 NFL Draft. The San Francisco 49ers select.......
by Giants49war on Apr 28, 2011 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
That isn't a highlight tape btw
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"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
she looks like she might not look so hot in person.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
like they air-brushed a new layer of skin on her
by uspsuperman on Apr 28, 2011 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
ya
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
she could be black or indian or pale irish for all we know. We cant see through the disguise
by uspsuperman on Apr 28, 2011 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
No indian is that color
Unless you mean native american.
Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
Im not competitive I just addicted to winning.
no, we are saying she has a complete layer of air-brush paint on her. she could be any color underneath all of the paint
by uspsuperman on Apr 28, 2011 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
She looks white
Kellen Moore is awesome
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no, we are saying she has a complete layer of air-brush paint on her. she could be any color underneath all of the paint
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by FearTheTree on Apr 28, 2011 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
ya, we know she is a white girl. it is kind of obvious given the facial features. it was more a comment about the amount of air-brushing / spray tan she is wearing.
by uspsuperman on Apr 28, 2011 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't care how hot some broad is. If she wears Jersey Shore amounts of fake tan
Not only would I never be into her, I’d make a point to clown her because she’s obviously an idiot.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy ... I swear, I saw her in Alien vs. Predator. I think she was eating Tila Tequila.
And then God created Saturn ... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
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by James Brady on Apr 28, 2011 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d pay to see that.
Alaska is a state, dammit! Can I get a Niner game on TV up here?
by kinglouie33 on Apr 28, 2011 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
No me gusta.
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by FearTheTree on Apr 28, 2011 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
The fake tan is really irritating for me :(
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by FearTheTree on Apr 28, 2011 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Her teeth are way too white.
Something about that, that I hate… just doesn’t look natural
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She’s alien, I swear
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by FearTheTree on Apr 28, 2011 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
How fitting is it that they’re dating…
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by FearTheTree on Apr 28, 2011 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Ponder does make bad decisions...
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Then maybe I can forgive Baalke
I can understand the medical grade keeping us from drafting Quinn, even if I don’t agree with it that’s the way business is done in the NFL, my main beef was that we should have traded down into the next batch of talent. If we tried and nobody wanted to play ball then I can’t demand Baalke’s head on a spike
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
what positions get drafted tomorrow?
rb
wr
cb
qb
de
dt
?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Was about to say all
but then you said for the niners. I think CB
Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
Im not competitive I just addicted to winning.
i have no clue what they are doing anymore
but for CBs, i like them to get Ras Dowling somewhere in the 3rd or 4th
with the 7th overall pick in the 2012 NFL Draft. The San Francisco 49ers select.......
by Giants49war on Apr 28, 2011 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you on something?
Dowling is probably getting taken in the next 20 picks. Very possibly in the next 5-10
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
ahh lame
i thought he was freefalling since his injury at the combine, and his past injury concerns in college
with the 45th overall pick in the 2011 NFL Draft. The San Francisco 49ers select...
hope it is a qb
dalton or kaepernick; johnny patrick in the third round.
and sign a top rated free agent cb and redo clements contract.
the d would be pretty good than next year.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 28, 2011 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Nnamdi and Dowling in the secondary would be awesome
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 28, 2011 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
NEW THREAD NOW OPEN
This will carry us through to the Nuggets. Tomorrow we’ll have a look at 49ers BPA at this point after one round, as well as several other posts.

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