NFL Draft 2011: 49ers Second Round BPA Options After First Round Results
Well that was an extremely interesting first round. I have to admit that it was the most exciting and unpredictable 1st round that I have ever seen.
Aldon Smith to the 49ers was a shocker, that is pretty obvious. I am not saying it wasn't a good pick because he is going to be one heck of a football player. The real shockers came in the form of Jake Locker (Tennessee), Christian Ponder (Minnesota), Nate Solder (New England), James Carpenter (Seattle) and Jonathan Baldwin (Kansas City)
I had Locker as the 4th best QB prospect, and he went with the 8th pick. Also, I had Ponder going in the 2nd round and Carpenter going in the 3rd. In regards to Jonathan Baldwin, as much as I do like him, that was a reach for Kansas City in the 1st; Titus Young is a much better pro prospect in my opinion.
So, onto the 1st round results and who could be available to the 49ers at 45.
1st Round
1. Carolina QB Cam Newton Auburn
2. Denver LB Von Miller Texas A&M
3. Buffalo DT Marcell Dareus Alabama
4. Cincinnati WR A.J. Green Georgia
5. Arizona CB Patrick Peterson Louisiana State
6. Atlanta from Cleveland WR Julio Jones Alabama
7. San Francisco LB Aldon Smith Missouri
8. Tennessee QB Jake Locker Washington
9. Dallas OT Tyron Smith USC
10. Jacksonville from Wash QB Blaine Gabbert Missouri
11. Houston DE J.J. Watt Wisconsin
12. Minnesota QB Christian Ponder Florida State
13. Detroit DL Nick Fairley Auburn
14. St. Louis DE/LB Robert Quinn North Carolina
15. Miami C Mike Pouncey Florida
16. Washington from Jax DE Ryan Kerrigan Purdue
17. New England OT Nate Solder Colorado
18. San Diego DT Corey Liuget Illinois
19. New York (G) CB Prince Amukamara Nebraska
20. Tampa Bay DE Adrian Clayborn Iowa
21. Cleveland from KC DT Phil Taylor Baylor
22. Indianapolis OT Anthony Castonzo Boston College
23. Philadelphia OL Danny Watkins Baylor
24. New Orleans DE Cameron Jordan California
25. Seattle OT James Carpenter Alabama
26. Kansas City from CLE WE Jonathan Baldwin Pittsburgh
27. Baltimore CB Jimmy Smith Colorado
28. New Orleans from N.E. RB Mark Ingram Alabama
29. Chicago OT Gabe Carimi Wisconsin
30. New York (J) DT Mohamed Wilkerson Temple
31. Pittsburgh DE Cameron Heyward Ohio State
32. Green Bay OT Derek Sherrod Mississippi St.
My Top Players Available
1. DE- Da'Quan Bowers, Clemson
2. LB- Justin Houston, Georgia
3. LB- Akeem Ayers, UCLA
4. CB- Brandon Harris, Miami
5. TE- Kyle Rudolph, Notre Dame
6. CB- Aaron Williams, Texas
7. QB- Andy Dalton, TCU
8. LB- Brooks Reed, Arizona
9. WR- Titus Young, Boise State
10. QB- Colin Kaepernick, Nevada
11. OT- Benjamin Ijalana, Villanova
12. WR- Torrey Smith, Maryland
13. QB- Ryan Mallett, Arkansas
14. DT- Stephen Paea, Oregon State
15. LB- Dontay Moch, Nevada
16. S- Rahim Moore, UCLA
17. CB- Curtis Brown, Texas
18. RB- Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech
19. WR- Leonard Hankerson, Miami (F)
20. LB- Martez Wilson, Illinois
So where do the 49ers go? This has been an extremely unpredictable draft thus far, so it is possible that either Aaron Williams or Brandon Harris fall to 45; that would be the ideal scenario for the 49ers. However, New England, Denver, Dallas, Houston, Minnesota and Detroit all have CB needs ahead of the 49ers in the 2nd round. This would seem to leave the likes of Curtis Brown and Ras-I Dawling as possibilities for them at 45.
Another option would be the QB position, and this is more likely. Andy Dalton, Ryan Mallett and Colin Kaepernick are all available heading into the 2nd day of the draft. Considering that Tennessee and Minnesota reached for QBs in the first round the 49ers have a real shot here. You are looking at Cincinnati, Arizona and Washington with QB needs ahead of San Francisco in the 2nd round. Chances are that all three of them do not select a QB. This means, barring a trade, the 49ers would have a chance at one of those QBs.
Quarterback and Corner at the 49ers biggest needs right now, but what if they go BPA? Da'Quan Bowers may actually be available at 45, which would put the 49ers in a weird position. They just selected a pass rusher, Aldon Smith, with the 7th pick; is it possible they get another one here in the 2nd round? The thought of a front seven that includes Justin Smith, Aldon Smith, Patrick Willis and Da'Quan Bowers has to scare opposing offenses. Just food for thought.
A lot of 49er fans had major issues with them selecting Aldon Smith with the 7th pick, but I want to know what your alternative was? It wasn't the sexiest pick in the world, but years down the road most of you will probably be singing another tune. As it is the 49ers have the following picks remaining in the 2011 draft, which means they are sure to get a lot of help moving forward this weekend.
2(45)
3(76)
4(108)
4(115)
5(141)
6(174)
6(190)
7(211)
7(231)
7(239)
7(250)
This also means that the 49ers have the ammunition to move up in the 2nd round and get their guy. If Jim Harbaugh and Trent Baalke are sold on Andy Dalton, they could easily move up to Buffalo's pick at 34. This would most likely cost San Francisco their 45th,108th and 174th picks, leaving them with 8 more picks.
Another option would be the 49ers moving down from their selection with a team looking for one of the second tier RBs who are likely to go in a string tomorrow. That would enable San Francisco to pick up an additional 3rd or 4th round pick which would give them a lot of flexibility to zero in on a player the want by trading back up multiple times.
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Davon House
Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
Im not competitive I just addicted to winning.
He should be available later.
He’s only played cornerback for 2 years, and he’s far from a finished product. Definitely a high upside guy, though.
Best case scenario for the top 6 picks:
1Car Dareus, 2Den Fairley, 3Buf Newton: 4Cin Jones 5Ari Gabbert 6Cle Bowers
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I think that's the direction they'll go with corners
House, Marsh, Patrick all options in 3rd/4th rounds
Throw them in the mix with Adams, Brock. The Capers in Green Bay strategy to corners.
by whistlingmountain on Apr 29, 2011 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I think the depth of this CB class is exactly why the Niners went with a DE/OLB in the 1st.
Best case scenario for the top 6 picks:
1Car Dareus, 2Den Fairley, 3Buf Newton: 4Cin Jones 5Ari Gabbert 6Cle Bowers
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Probably so
Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
Im not competitive I just addicted to winning.
yea I've said that as well
the OLB class is weak in my opinion, some people like Moch, Carter, Acho. I do not. Really wanted Quinn, but they must have thought he was too heavy.
by whistlingmountain on Apr 29, 2011 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions
The correlation doesn't translate anymore...
He’s playing 4-3 DE opposite Chris Long. That’s going to be painful, so we better hope that Staley magically becomes a pro bowl LT or Boone supplants him and can shut people down.
by 9thevolution on Apr 29, 2011 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions
House isn't going to be there in the 2nd
Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
Im not competitive I just addicted to winning.
in the 3rd you mean?
He might. We’ll see, I mean there’s 50 guys that are being projected for the 2nd round.
by whistlingmountain on Apr 29, 2011 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions
ya I meant in the 3rd
Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
Im not competitive I just addicted to winning.
^^This
Or Brandon Burton.
I would say Dalton, but he won’t be there and I really don’t want to trade up, too many needs.
by 9thevolution on Apr 29, 2011 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions
my thought as well
with the 45th overall pick in the 2011 NFL Draft. The San Francisco 49ers select...
by Giants49war on Apr 29, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Tonight we find out if Harbs likes a QB
We found out last night that he didn’t like any of them that much. If he likes Dalton, Kaep or Mallet I think they move up. I hope they take Harris.
I'm not big on Harris, he's just not that fast, worries me.
Lots of fast raw corners available in the mid rounds.
by whistlingmountain on Apr 29, 2011 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm as big a fan of Bowers as anyone, but if he fell this far
it’s because his knee thing is real and he’s basically untouchable
I like the corners in round 3. I’d have Houston on that list, Kaepernick in play more than Dalton, Mallet a steal for someone, but not great for Harbaugh’s motion offense.
I like some of the receivers and would think about them if they’re bpa, like Torrey Smith, Greg Little
Definitely look at the nose tackles, Kendrick and Ellis.
Maybe look at the OG/C like Wisnie..eski.. Penn St guy.
by whistlingmountain on Apr 29, 2011 7:28 AM PDT reply actions
At a certain, you have value. getting a top 15 talent in the 2nd round is excellent.
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If his knee thing is real though, it doesn't matter.
there’s no value if his career is 3 years.
by whistlingmountain on Apr 29, 2011 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions
This blurb from Peter King is pretty damning
Two months ago, the Bucs never thought they’d be passing on Da’Quan Bowers. In fact, when I saw GM Mark Dominik at the Scouting Combine in February and mentioned Bowers’ name, he shook his head and said he’d never be there at 20. Well, Bowers is there at 33, sunk by a bum knee. And Adrian Clayborn now becomes the speed guy around the edge the Bucs are desperate for.
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I picked Harris
Although I would not be upset with any of these guys.
OK, connect the dots:
Jason Pierre-Paul played for Jim Leavitt at University of South Florida Bulls.
Aldon Smith will play for Jim Leavitt (LBs coach) with the San Francisco 49ers.
Now check this:

Jason Pierre-Paul became a 1st-round pick in half a season of college football. If Jim Leavitt sees some JPP in Aldon Smith, and knows that he’ll have him for years to coach and train, maybe he thinks Smith can be a guy that actually delivers on his vast athletic talents.
I can totally see how they would be convinced by that kind of argument; Fangio’s defenses are only as good as his linebackers, and Smith has the potential to be a great one with the right coaching.
Best case scenario for the top 6 picks:
1Car Dareus, 2Den Fairley, 3Buf Newton: 4Cin Jones 5Ari Gabbert 6Cle Bowers
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by grantmp on Apr 29, 2011 7:30 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
What I like with Aldon is how he uses his hands
Something the current 49er guys don’t do well, and something I think is required for good pass rushers.
Have to be able to convert your movement into bursts of strength with your hands/arms.
by whistlingmountain on Apr 29, 2011 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Dalton
do not want.
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Why???
He’s likely to be the best QB coming out of this class.
by 9thevolution on Apr 29, 2011 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh let me count the ways
Played in a spread
Bad footwork
Iffy mechanics
can’t throw on the run
Maybe a 4th or 5th rounder but definitely not a second
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All things that can be corrected with coaching
And his mechanics aren’t that bad, nor is his footwork. He’s a leader, a winner and he’s accurate. He’s the closest guy to being a day 1 starter other than Stanzi, who has a lower ceiling.
by 9thevolution on Apr 29, 2011 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Agree - Now that we have a QB developer
System and mechanics are coachable. Dalton has good raw materials but it’s up to Harbaugh whether they’re the right raw materials.
by DeathValleyCarl on Apr 29, 2011 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I think Dalton is his QB preference this year
I doubt they trade up for him though. I think they let the board fall the way it happens. On the bright side, there are at least 4 teams that will absolutely not be taking a QB in the first round next year, and another 3 at least that should be taking a QB in the 2nd and won’t likely target a first round QB next year. Our competition to get a top QB next year has drastically decreased. Here’s hoping that Colt McCoy has a great season and Cleveland isn’t inclined to use their two 1st rounders for a top QB.
by 9thevolution on Apr 29, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Looks like my dream came true and Mallett will be there
But they won’t take him. I’m thinking Kaepernick…but bet Harbaugh thinks he can take his chances and get Stanzi in the 3rd.
I have this weird feeling that after tonight we still don’t have a QB
Well if it's Stanzi in the 3rd, then we'll have a QB tonight
Not to mention, FA is going to open today, so we could have the QB position addressed in one way or another by tomorrow morning
by 9thevolution on Apr 29, 2011 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Ras-I
only injuries his senior year kept him from being a mid-tier 1st rounder. dude is a baller
Now that the first rounders are gone
I think Dowling is our best bet. Recognizes double moves, fights for the ball and has the size to compete against the big WRs that we’ll be up against. He’d help us sooner.
by DeathValleyCarl on Apr 29, 2011 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Comparable skills but Dowling's got 3" on Harris.
by DeathValleyCarl on Apr 29, 2011 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Dowling has speed as well
Harris shouldn’t even be considered in the 2nd because of his lack of speed.
by 9thevolution on Apr 29, 2011 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions
yup
Harris is going to get burned all day against NFL WRs
with the 45th overall pick in the 2011 NFL Draft. The San Francisco 49ers select...
by Giants49war on Apr 29, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Ras-I
Yes, for sure. If he’s there we gotta get Ras-I.
It's about having the kind of faith that makes all the "what if's" irrelevant - Jim Harbaugh 2011
Frank Gore has earned his place among the great running backs of the NFL - Pat Willie on NN
I think Bowers is wrong for the scheme
And with his knee being bad him bulking up to play D end in the 3/4 would probably shorten his career, but if they think he can do it I am all for it. Dude was a straight baller last year.
by Mr. Jesse From Anchorage, AK on Apr 29, 2011 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I don't think it's going to happen
I won’t be upset one way or the other though, as I can see both sides.
Any QB’s you like in the 2nd? I would go for Kaep, but don’t think he’ll be there.
yeah, and when we do go with a 4 man front, it was smith that looked to take the end spot. i can’t see a place for bowers on the team
In the 3rd round he's only a situational player anyway
If he falls that far and his talent outweighs the injury risk, then you take him as a pass rushing DT in our nickel package and 4-man fronts.
And if you mean J. Smith, he has been a DT in our 4-man fronts, but he could play outside as well opposite A. Smith
by 9thevolution on Apr 29, 2011 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
hard for a guy mocked at the number one overall early on to resign himself to being a situational player, especially on the inside d-line. just bc he gets drafted in the 3rd doesn’t mean he believes he’s 3rd rount material.
i’m sure if he falls out of the early 2nd round, he realizes he’s going to have to prove himself no matter where he goes, but i think he’d want to do it for a team that has a 4-3.
cleveland might take a chance on him.
Doesn't matter what the player wants...
He doesn’t call the shots. When he’s drafted and the coach says this is what you’re doing, that’s what he has to do.
I agree he’s best served in a 4-3, but as a mid-round pick, he’s an incredible replacement for McDonald as a nickel package player.
by 9thevolution on Apr 29, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
he wouldn't be here if the knee thing wasn't true
off the board. would only take a flyer if I were a 4-3 team in the late 3rd or 4th round when you’ve moved into mostly backups and special teamers.
by whistlingmountain on Apr 29, 2011 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions
watch Baalke and Harbaugh take someone
Who isn’t even on our radar.
The first round was pretty crazy. The most entertaining draft I seen in years
"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."
Norm Sloan
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."
Weldon Drew
by EcERyda69 on Apr 29, 2011 8:03 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Sadly I couldn't watch
as I was at a family function. I saw the pick on my phone and flipped out and started posting here lol.
I was reading Maiocco's site and it looks like Harbaugh and A. Smith (the original A. Smith) have been talking and Alex is going to sign a waiver and start working out today.
There is a hint at getting a QB by trade or FA so i am thinking that maybe Josh Johnson could be another QB. But Baalke said they have discussed taking a QB in the draft but that is staying internal.. no leaks..
This opens up the 2nd round for the possibility of going for a CB.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Alex Smith vs Josh Johnson with Adam Froman as development
Would be a decent QB chart for me.
Not sure what JJ would take though.
by whistlingmountain on Apr 29, 2011 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd imagine that Johnson is the trade option...
Just because there’s discussion about a QB pick doesn’t mean it’s going to be high. We still need a back up for the long-term, so it could be a late round QB who we have no intention of making a legit option to challenge for a starting job.
by 9thevolution on Apr 29, 2011 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions
This has already been said, but it is worth repeating:
Versatility. Aside from Aldon’s athleticism, hands/arms, and motor, a huge asset will be the ability to use him in 3-4 or 4-3 defenses, which Fangio seems to want to do.
Alaska is a state, dammit! Can I get a Niner game on TV up here?
If the raiders trade up before we do
Kaepernick will be gone! :(
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You're insane...
There’s no way he falls that far. A team with an established but aging QB can take him and put him on the bench to learn. That doesn’t count the 5-6 teams with no future at the position that would take him in the 2nd and teach him on the job.
by 9thevolution on Apr 29, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Wasnt it a broken leg?
Those are hard to come back from
"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."
Norm Sloan
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."
Weldon Drew
Ankle actually, I think, which is worse....
There was little investment, but you hate to see it happen. A leg they could just put a rod in and he would have to heal and rehab. There’s no fix for a destroyed ankle and you need that to play. Somehow I doubt he’s coming back.
by 9thevolution on Apr 29, 2011 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah, apparently it was a "gruesome" injury.
I saw the videos of the play, and it didn’t look so bad to me, but apparently if you look at it closely it’s pretty bad.
Many questioned if he could ever play again.
I remember...
It sucks because he seemed like he would be a decent rotational player.
by 9thevolution on Apr 29, 2011 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
call jerry jones
what would it cost to move up a few spots to take kaep if he’s still there?
it would be an extra benefit for dallas to block a division rival from maybe getting their guy, don’t u think?
BPA for the 49ers?
BPA: IMO, Paea, Wilson, Kaepernick, Downing. Bowers is not a need, but could be very good pick if he needs time to heal. Maybe Kaepernick in the second, then Tyrod Taylor later [4-6]. With Alex Smith, that would give Harbaugh and staff plenty to work with at QB.
You think Paea fits?
He strikes me as 3 tech DT, not big enough for a nose in a 34, and just not suited to be a 5 tech end either. If we played a 43, I’d LOVE him as a penetrating 3 tech. just don’t know how he fits with us despite his obvious upper body strength.
by lacrosse_cat on Apr 29, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
he is a bit light at 303lbs, but he plays like a heavier guy. Mainly, he takes up double teams and he is very difficult to move. That is exactly what you want out a NT. Maybe he will prove to be too light to stand up to pro o-linemen, but he might be just fine at 303lbs.
Also, he plays very mean and aggressively, and has a huge motor and work ethic. Sounds like a young Samoan we already have on our team, doesnt he?
by uspsuperman on Apr 29, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
other
my options are
Ras-I, Rahim Moore and Curtis Brown. (no particular order)
Other: Paea
Samoans make great interior linemen.
NT is the core of the 3-4, and Paea can even play a 4-3 DT when Fangio switches the scheme on 3rd downs.
keep A. Franklin
Go with D. Bowers if he falls..was rated a top ten pick—first or second d lineman in the draft. Had a lights out year..is physical, big and gets after passer and running back…looks Justin Smith ish and would play opposite him..
not worried at all..
a meniscus is a minor injury..it did affect his proday..but that’s because he went out on it earlier than 100%—which is o.k.
I think this guy can be really special and give us the pressure we need up front..worth trading up if it involves our later round picks.
Just another opinion ... but it's mine:
Pick 45: If available, QB Colin Kaepernick; else, CB Ras-I Dowling.
Pick 76: If available, NT Kendrick Ellis; else, CB Devon House or CB Brandon Burton.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Apr 29, 2011 9:56 AM PDT reply actions
They won't go QB in the 2nd or 3rd round.
Take a CB with 2nd round pick… Harris or Williams.
They could take a flier on Bowers…he has top 5 talent.
I hope they take Casey Matthews in the 3rd or 4th…..
Stanzi, Devlin, and McElroy will be available in the later rounds. The QBOTF is not in this draft and with Alex most likely coming back, they have a stop gap till next year when they can have a shot at Luck.
Agree
Our QBOTF is in the first round in next years draft.
by jerryattrick on Apr 29, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
CB
I like Harris he is a ball hawk and attacks the ball very well. I think we are going to sign Alex back and I am fine with that. Harbaugh sees something in him and that is a good thing. I love the Aldon Smith pick the guy has a Great Club move and he is young. After a couple of years of learning the ins and outs of being an edge rusher and gaining some Man weight he should be a solid contributer for years to come.
I support Bowers
I think that Bowers could be either amazing or absolutely terrible. The one thing is that I don’t know where he’d fit. I don’t think he could really play OLB, but I would support taking him. If Harbaugh doesn’t like any of the QB’s than maybe we should. He could be amazing and he could be really helpful. If we were going to take him, I think that I would try to get another second to also get a QB, but I’m ok with Tyrod Taylor or Alabama’s McElroy. So I would support taking Bowers.

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