Mel Kiper, Todd McShay Round Two Mock Drafts: Brandon Harris And Colin Kaepernick?
by David Fucillo on Apr 29, 2011 9:57 AM PDT
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PrintAlthough yesterday provide how futile NFL mock drafts really can be, some folks have decided to try and mock out the second round of the 2011 NFL Draft. ESPN's Mel Kiper and Todd McShay both decided to get back into the swing of things with their respective second round mock drafts. Kiper went with Nevada QB Colin Kaepernick, while McShay went with Miami, FL cornerback Brandon Harris.
In poking around the Internet I found three additional mocks, including Mocking the Draft, SB Nation's NFL section, and Maiocco's mock. In less than shocking news all three have the 49ers selecting a cornerback with the 45th overall pick. Of course, all three also have different cornerbacks with that pick.
Mocking the Draft decided on Texas CB Aaron Williams, SB Nation went with the other Texas CB Curtis Brown, and Maiocco went with Lousville's Johnny Patrick. Of those three, all had Andy Dalton going to Cincinnati with the third pick of the round. However, only Mocking the Draft had Colin Kaepernick dropping past the 49ers.
As things currently stand, I'm pretty sold on the idea that the 49ers will select either a quarterback or a cornerback with their second round pick. I realize that it doesn't take rocket science to figure that one out. There are some potential sleeper positions with pick number 45 (Tre9er suggested nose tackle), but CB and QB have to be pretty high on the list right now.
I asked about sleeper positions on twitter earlier today, so I figured now is a good time to ask here. Do you see anything other than CB or QB with this pick, and how likely would it be for that alternate position to be the pick?
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After yesterday
can’t we ignore anything ever said in mock drafts? It’s obvious these guys are basically guessing.
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very true
It does make for amusing discussion about how wrong they’ll be proven at some point.
by David Fucillo on Apr 29, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Rick Gosselin
had a pretty good draft
http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2011/4/28/2138958/rick-gosselins-mock-draft-rams-pick-rb-mark-ingram
1. Carolina – Cam Newton
2. Denver – Von Miller
3. Buffalo – Marcell Dareus
4. Cincy – A.J. Green
5. Arizona – Patrick Peterson
6. Cleveland – Julio Jones
7. San Fran – Blaine Gabbert
8. Tennessee – Jake Locker
9. Dallas – Tyron Smith
10. Washington – Christian Ponder
11. Houston – Aldon Smith
-—-
He got the Jones pick correct, but for the wrong team lol.
Got the first 5 correct
plus the trade with ATL (no one saw that one) netted the correct Julio Jones selection at 6.
Whiffed on Gabbert.
nailed the “surprise” Locker, got Tyron Smith, and a QB going 10th.
He has Ponder in the mid 1st round too, and Aldon near the 49ers…
Aren’t they explicitly guessing? I mean, isn’t that exactly what a mock draft is: a bunch of guys making guesses?
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by howtheyscored on Apr 29, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Just seems like complaining about the ice cream because it’s cold to me. Yeah. That’s what you get when you buy ice cream.
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by howtheyscored on Apr 29, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
seems about right
These guys all basically admit that they’re lucky if they get 1/4 of the picks right. A draft is just not something that you could predict accurately ahead of time unless you had access to every team’s draft board. And even then, there would be some hiccups.
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by Smoke on the Water on Apr 29, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
let’s just listen to the people who correct every pick correctly!
Adopted Father of Marc Kroon. He better make the roster.
Guessing?
There are hundreds and hundreds of college players, and pretty much everybody who was expected to go in first round, went in first round, usually not too far away from a projected position.
A.Smith was project around 10 to 12, went at 7. Boo hoo..
All this sounds much more then a guess.
personally
I want to know how the players they project do compared to the players that are actually picked. That is how you decide how good someone is at making a mock. If the player these guys said should be picked turns out a stud, and the player that is picked is a dud, I’d say they did well. Someone with a lot more time than me would have to figure this out though.
Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.
I said it all along thats all is, A good guess, But you see when the guesser don’t get who he wants, He rub them in the ground, The coach or GM don’t know what they doing, I find it a lil funny at times.. LoL, Who would had thought the 49ers would pick Aldon Smith, But look deep you will see a very good young player. Go 9ers..
by DaHawn-49er on Apr 29, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I thinkn we go DT in this round if the CB's that are rated high on their draft board are gone
"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."
Norm Sloan
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."
Weldon Drew
I would have to throw quarterbacks in with that
If the quarterback that coach wants isn’t there, and the cornerbacks are gone, nose tackle make alot of sense.
It's about having the kind of faith that makes all the "what if's" irrelevant - Jim Harbaugh 2011
Frank Gore has earned his place among the great running backs of the NFL - Pat Willie on NN
If I'm making the selections ...
Pick 45: If available, QB Colin Kaepernick; else, CB Ras-I Dowling.
Pick 76: If available, NT Kendrick Ellis; else, CB Devon House or CB Brandon Burton.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Apr 29, 2011 10:04 AM PDT reply actions
We actually will be drafting CB for the rest of the draft.
Hoard up on them, then trade. Works in all online games.
by Mindless on Apr 29, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm in the minority that doesn't like Dowling
Would rather they go with Ellis, or even a luxury WR or RB.
I do like the corners in the 3rd, House, Burton, Marsh, Patrick, Skrine, Rodgers
I really like Skrine and Marsh, but Patrick is the guy that’s had the meetings with the 49ers.
by whistlingmountain on Apr 29, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I have a feeling
House is gone by the third.
Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.
I know this thread isn't about Smith but I didn't want to get chopped
The only reason people would be down about our pick is because mock drafts didn’t have Smith going to us. It’s incredible how big of an influence those things have on fan-base’s perceptions of players. I guarantee if he was rumored to go to a team one spot ahead of us or even to us, people would be ecstatic.
Pros:
Young
Athletic (basketball prep star) dual athleticism is awesome in pass rushers
Really, really long arms
Everybody says he’s a character guy
Still very raw (redshirt sophomore)
Has obviously shown tremendous technique and finesse which is very hard and sometimes impossible to teach guys
Cons:
Stats weren’t great Jr. year
-he missed the first three games (Illinois, McNeese St. and San Diego St) Those are the games where the stat padding comes in for all top-tier players. And the fact that he played through injury after that is impressive.
Not enough value at that the #7 slot
-and who did have value? Quinn? 14th pick. Fairley? 13th. Prince? 19th. Bowers? still available. We got the best value possible with the exception of trading down.
Will be compared by everyone to PP
-let’s face it, we set ourselves up for failure when we had Peterson as our expectancy for this draft. Whomever we drafted would inevitably be compared to him
No “top-tier” speed.
And the last OLB/DE prospect with top-tier speed as his best asset who did well in the NFL was….?
I don’t think it’s crazy at all to see his ceiling as DeMarcus Ware.
I have seen the future of rock n' roll, and its name is Buster Posey.
"Practice is a crutch for the talentless."
You can't use the justification that other players got picked lower
to say that Smith was good value at 7… that’s completely circular.
So what can I use?
I have seen the future of rock n' roll, and its name is Buster Posey.
"Practice is a crutch for the talentless."
by atxgiantsfan on Apr 29, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Haha well it’s the draft! Reality, regardless of how circular it is, is the only reasoning available. It’s how the pick will ultimately be measured. Looking at the 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12 picks there isn’t a single player I would want instead of Smith. So yeah, I think we got good value. The NFL draft IS circular reasoning, aren’t all drafts?
I have seen the future of rock n' roll, and its name is Buster Posey.
"Practice is a crutch for the talentless."
by atxgiantsfan on Apr 29, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Not at all
It’s circular reasoning (and therefore foolish) to say Smith was good value at 7, because we selected him at 7. It doesn’t make sense. That’s not reality… that’s a fallacy.
Where we picked him has nothing to do with it. It’s where we picked him in relation to who was picked after him. I fail to see how added context qualifies as circular logic. Was he a bad pick at #7? I don’t think so, but possibly. Was he a bad pick at 7 when you look at the 5 players who were drafted after him? Absolutely not.
I have seen the future of rock n' roll, and its name is Buster Posey.
"Practice is a crutch for the talentless."
by atxgiantsfan on Apr 29, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Aldon Smith uses a sort of circular motion when pushes off/past/through linemen on the way to the quarterback so…
Maybe circular reasoning can be considered a tribute to our new OLB
It's about having the kind of faith that makes all the "what if's" irrelevant - Jim Harbaugh 2011
Frank Gore has earned his place among the great running backs of the NFL - Pat Willie on NN
Patrick Peterson was never going to the 49ers
I am honestly surprised the Bills didn’t take him. You’re righ, alot of people are putting way too much credibility on the predictions of sports writers.
You left out versitility in your Pro’s section. Also character, attitude, motor, and fit. This guy is going to fit Fangio well, going to give quarterbacks fits. This pick is on the coaches, and Baalke, and if he is what we think he is, they are going to look like geniuses.
It's about having the kind of faith that makes all the "what if's" irrelevant - Jim Harbaugh 2011
Frank Gore has earned his place among the great running backs of the NFL - Pat Willie on NN
The Maiocco mock has a big CB run going on right before the 49ers pick
Which would suck.
somebody will be there
Niners just need to be flexible. If the QBs and CBs are gone, there would be an NT or WR.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Apr 29, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Just throwing it out there
Charlie Casserly was just on NFL Network and mentioned that the 49ers and Dallas were two teams who were trying to work out trades to get back into the first round last night. He didn’t say anything about who the teams were looking to get but I don’t think it would be a stretch to think the Niners were trying to get Dalton or Kaepernick.
I agree with the mocks up there that Dalton is very likely to be picked by the Bengals but the Niners might talk to the Pats or Broncos to try to jump the Bengals.
Thank god they didn't, really do not want them to trade the 2012 1st rounder.
I’m interested to see what NE gets from 33 as they’ll likely trade it.
by whistlingmountain on Apr 29, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
they'll trade it to a team needing a QB
it’s the first pick of the second round, so the teams have clear plans set…. those clever NE bastards.
I'd like Mallett.
Guy is going to be a steal this late in the second.
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
total steal, agreed, but not a good fit for Harbaugh offense which requires bootlegs and roll outs
by whistlingmountain on Apr 29, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Isn't Mallett more of a Raider type?
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
by ToddCommish on Apr 29, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
not really, the media has placed that as a "fit"
so they all talk about it like it’s something real
by whistlingmountain on Apr 29, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd actually say he's more of a Chargers/Patriots/Cotls type
those offenses don’t require much movement, everything from within the pocket
by whistlingmountain on Apr 29, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah those qbs seem to do ok.
i mean even big ben can roll out. guy has tons of talent.
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
He's a statue....
I’d be shocked if we took him at all. He doesn’t “feel” pressure or adjust to it. Not a good pick, IMO.
by 9thevolution on Apr 29, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
and false
watch footage. he isn’t a run threat, but he has good presence in the pocket, and he DOES feel the pressure. He moved around in the pocket all season, picking apart SEC defences. Just because the guy doesn’t run doesn’t mean he is a ‘statue.’
Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.
bingo
an Al D. pick if ever there was one.
Character concerns? Check.
HUGE arm? Check.
SOrt of a physical freak/oddity in some way? Check (height).
Mallet to the Raiders… I could see it.
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by Smoke on the Water on Apr 29, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
since when has Al ever changed his stripes?
Give the man credit for one thing: there is a blueprint he believes in and he has consistently stuck with it… except when he let Gruden run things and they were actually, you know, good.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Apr 29, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
i wonder if there were no richrod and he'd stayed at michigan where he would have gone.
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
I wouldn’t draft him in the first two rounds, if I needed a QB. I think he’s boom or bust (40/60). He just flicks his wrist and the ball travels 70 yards; his arm strength is just incredible. And I think he’s a relatively accurate passer. But he doesn’t seem to process what the defense is doing quickly, and he’s often late on a throw he should’ve made an instant before. That’s why I wouldn’t draft him in the early rounds.
Small criticism..
Take it for what its worth – very little.
But have you guys ever considered the idea that you make too many different threads on a daily basis? Most of what’s been posted today could have been consolidated into one thread. Instead, they’re pushed down the page rapidly and any discussions happening are quickly lost. This particular thread barely merited a blurb, IMO.
If you like doing it this way, all good. But it seems a bit much to me.
by Stoned Slacker on Apr 29, 2011 10:23 AM PDT reply actions
Put down the pipe, and maybe all the threads wont be so confusing
"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."
Norm Sloan
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."
Weldon Drew
Hey now.
You could be using sarcasm but that wasn’t necessary. I think he made a very good point.
I have seen the future of rock n' roll, and its name is Buster Posey.
"Practice is a crutch for the talentless."
by atxgiantsfan on Apr 29, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I was
"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."
Norm Sloan
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."
Weldon Drew
guess I need to be putting down the pipe..
I have seen the future of rock n' roll, and its name is Buster Posey.
"Practice is a crutch for the talentless."
by atxgiantsfan on Apr 29, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I actually kind of agree
Just a suggestion for improvement, not like the current system is broken or anything… but having so many posts really seems to fragment the discussion. It seems like there could’ve been one on Aldon Smith and one on the 2nd round… and that probably would’ve been sufficient.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Apr 29, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I will be livid if we get Dalton.
Played in an inferior conference. Check.
Had the better talent on his side of the ball every single game. Check.
System quarterback. Check.
Had the best defense in the nation his final three years as a starter. Check.
I have seen the future of rock n' roll, and its name is Buster Posey.
"Practice is a crutch for the talentless."
1) Same conference as Kaepernick
2) Not always. Boise and Nevada were both quite good.
3) Like most college QBs.
4) Maybe so, but has nothing to do with his capabilities.
Dalton did pretty well when he faced major college programs too
including when he played against Stanford and Harbaugh
… but I still think Kaepernick is the guy the Niners have in their sights if they’re going to take a QB.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Apr 29, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
1) False. And where did I say I was high on Kaepernick?
2) Um, they didn’t play Nevada or Boise?
3) True, but most college Qb’s don’t get drafted. The biggest pro factory systems for Qb’s aren’t system offenses.
4) Gets him the ball more often. Keeps him on the field longer, more opportunity to pad his stats. Inflates W-L record.
I have seen the future of rock n' roll, and its name is Buster Posey.
"Practice is a crutch for the talentless."
by atxgiantsfan on Apr 29, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Different conference
Nevada is in the WAC and joins the Mountain West in 2012, probably to replace TCU when they leave.
by Mr. Jesse From Anchorage, AK on Apr 29, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
the MWC is not inferior
They went to the BCS last year and beat a good Wisconsin team. Utah went to the BCS twice and beat a great Alabama team. The MWC is a decent conference
"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."
Norm Sloan
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."
Weldon Drew
the top teams in the conference are as good as anywhere else.
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Yes they are
too bad the top teams have left TCU, Utah, and BYU. Im still pissed they couldnt stay together and build the conference up
"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."
Norm Sloan
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."
Weldon Drew
it would be nice to take a qb with our 2nd and possibly him as our 3rd or trade up late in the sencond to get him
by ninersince94 on Apr 29, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
been thinking this for a while
but some folks are high on him. Dowling in the 3rd would be an incredible steal. If there is a run on CB’s though, I could see him going mid second.
Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.
We oughtta package some picks to get another 2nd rounder for him.
by DeathValleyCarl on Apr 29, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Sleeper selection position
Would be C. They have one side completely addressed with Iupati/Davis. The C position was fubar for most of last season because of injuries. I would think they’d like to get either a C or G (and have Iupati migrate to C like Randy Cross and Jesse Sapolu).
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Barrows seems to think Baas will be back, IIRC
I dunno, I could see it I guess. But they’ve spent so many picks on top OL over the past few years.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Apr 29, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
is heitman out because of the neck injury?
if yes: back up C/G — and try to resign BAAS asap.
if no: get a d line player—NT, 3-4 DE type with pash rush capability
from what the beat writers are saying
Heitmann’s injury sounds pretty serious. He might just be done with football.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Apr 29, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
oh man that sucks
heitmann was consistently solid for us and smart on line/protection changes..if that is true he will be missed. .
and to the point..we’ll need to start to develop a young center if only for insurance.
Bass played well at center last year
Winning
by return2greatness on Apr 29, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Depth is important. If you can get a stud center the whole line is better.
by mcwagner on Apr 29, 2011 11:00 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
and hes a really funny guy
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Apr 29, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
You seem to be mistaken on a few things...
Iupati and Davis don’t play on the same side of the OL (Iupati – LG; Davis – RT). It’s possible that Davis is moved to the left side by the coaches, but I think he’ll stay at RT for at least this year.
The center position was not FUBAR at all last year. Baas struggled a bit in the first game of the year, but after that, he became more comfortable and played better as the year progressed. Considering it is his natural position and he did well there, plus his relatively young age, I would think the Niners want to bring him back. They could get a guy that plays back up G/C late in the draft and bring him along slowly to eventually replace Baas. That is if they don’t want to keep Heitmann considering his neck injury.
All that said, they could take a center here, but there are much bigger needs with better value, including NT.
by 9thevolution on Apr 29, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
not keeping Baas
would be a very idiotic mistake. He’ll be relatively cheap, and can hold down multiple spots on the line if needed.
Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.
he will be more expensive than a rookie drafted after the first round though.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 29, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
If the QBs are gone
I almost feel like they’ll wait another round to address CB. It just seems like there’s a lot of guys still left and one of them would likely fall to the 3rd who wouldn’t be that much worse than what you’d get in the 2nd.
NT is a definite possibility (Paea or Ellis). So, I think, is WR (Titus Young or Greg Little). Darkhorse— what if they shocked us all and got ANOTHER passrusher? I have to admit, I kind of think the best value on the board at this point for the Niners would be either Brooks Reed or Akeem Ayers.
My head says they should trade up and secure a shot at a QB. My gut is telling me they’re not going to draft a QB because there’s someone on the FA/Trade market that they’ve got their eye on (and I don’t mean Alex Smith… though he would be welcome back as well).
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Apr 29, 2011 10:30 AM PDT reply actions
+1
Brooks Reed. I am a fan.
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by return2greatness on Apr 29, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Size matters..
We need to get our Dlineman of the present/future with this pick. Hard to find solid lineman as easily in later rounds.
Speaking of later round D-lineman...
DII NT Blaine Sumner seems like an interesting late round gamble. Here’s what SI’s Tony Pauline had to say about him:
Affectionately known as the “Vanilla Gorrilla,” Sumner is one of the best-kept secrets on the defensive line. He’s an all-conference player that posted 32 tackles and blocked three kicks as a senior. He completed 52 reps on the bench press during his pro-day workout, while squatting 905 pounds and benching 625. Sumner is also on pace to receive a master’s degree in Engineering and Technology Management. He’s lined up at fullback and was also used as a short-yardage runner. Sumner has drawn interest from a number of teams with the Raiders and 49ers leading the way.
Come on now this isn't baseball
They don’t get caught doing steroids in football…
Got to love his nickname!
by Mr. Jesse From Anchorage, AK on Apr 29, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah theyre
pretty hardcore on testing in college and pros and the reprecussions for doing so are great..but vanilla gorilla..sounds interesting..but we already have a gym wowser in Sopoaga so I’m not convinced he’s good unless those numbers translate on the football field.
If he is at least as good as soap
than I’d be happy. Sopoaga is no slouch on the field. If this is a young, similar guy, and he’s around in the later rounds that would be a very good pick.
Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.
Vanilla Gorrilla?
Does that seem vaguely racist to anyone else in weird, roundabout way?
Also, word to the wise— do not GIS Blaine Sumner… even with Safeseach on moderate, some other stuff comes up that’s definitely NSFW.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Apr 29, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
No...there's no other positions...
That are as high of need as QB and corner. It apparent to me that the FO has no desire to spend in the FA market. So, that means, the thought of us going after a vet at either of these positions is not in the cards. Personally, I would take Aaron Williams if he’s there. The fact he can play either the corner, or safety spot, makes him a better bet. Then, I would take a couple of the extra picks we have and tryto trade up and grab either Dalton or Kapernick as our QBOTF. If Harbaugh is such a QB guru as everyone says he is, then he could take these raw guys and turn them into steller signal callers for this team.
K.C.Edwards -AKA- "THE" DarkkStarr
Solid... I like it
But we probably have to take the QB first if we want one out of this round, and we’ll have to move up from our pick at #45. I’d just as soon wait til next year and get a better QB prospect and solidify the defense this year.
by 9thevolution on Apr 29, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
With the exception of Gabbert, this is a QB reaching draft.
I’d like to package some pick for two in the 2nd round. Then we could get Dowling and the QB-that-falls-to-45.
by DeathValleyCarl on Apr 29, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Are you kidding???
I’m so glad you work for these “teams” and have that inside information. Someone is going to take him early in the 2nd round, and it wouldn’t surprise me if someone trades up to #33 and takes him.
by 9thevolution on Apr 29, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
At this point, I wouldn't care which QB was drafted.
If Harbaugh thinks Mallet is the guy, than I’m on board. If he likes Kaepernick or Dalton, I like them too. In Harbaugh I trust.
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by return2greatness on Apr 29, 2011 10:45 AM PDT reply actions
I think most fans would agree
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Apr 29, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
hoping CB in the 2nd
Ras I Dowling would be my first choice.
I wouldn’t mind Kaep if Harbaugh believes in the pick.
While I’d love a CB, i’d rather take BPA over really reaching for a QB when Josh Johnson can be had.
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved solar powered broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
List of players I's be happy with with our first pick
D. Bowers
A. Williams
B. Carter
B. Harris
M. Austin/S. Paea
R. Moore
J. Casey
I have seen the future of rock n' roll, and its name is Buster Posey.
"Practice is a crutch for the talentless."
nice
id love Bowers as well, injury concerns aside.
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by Giant Voodoo on Apr 29, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
he seems like a great kid
sad to see him fall for injury reasons
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by Smoke on the Water on Apr 29, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
bowers would only play with four down lineman or nickles packages. he does not fit in 34 system
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 29, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed. I don’t think we’ll be running a traditional 3-4 though. With what I’ve seen from Fangio defenses and from what I’ve heard him say about the defense he wants to implement flexibility is at a premium. The talent is off the charts for where we’ll be picking in the second round and I think it would be smarter to increase our strengths in this draft instead of repairing the chinks in our armor.
I have seen the future of rock n' roll, and its name is Buster Posey.
"Practice is a crutch for the talentless."
by atxgiantsfan on Apr 29, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
but he will not be on the field that often, do not see him being good against the run or dropping back into coverage.
only see him playing with four down lineman on the field. anything other than 3rd and long teams will run right at him.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 29, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
marvin austin would be a better pick
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 29, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
LOCKOUT IS BACK ON
Eddgy has a fanpost on it!!!
&*#%&(&@@9
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Apr 29, 2011 10:59 AM PDT reply actions
wat.
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by Giant Voodoo on Apr 29, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
huh?
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8th circuit effed us all
they granted the stay on the lockout. Monday players will go and appeal.
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Apr 29, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
well
No training camps will take place.
Players can have no contact with the team.
No more coaching.
And since we are a team with new coaches we get the most effected.
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Apr 29, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
fair point.
but in the grand scheme of things i think we’ll be ok in a lockout. especially if there ends up being a rookie cap. that way we aren’t paying as much for “potential”
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yeah.
I think next year we are gonna have a worse record that this year unless we get a QB who can make things happen. Im ok with that though, as long as the players are progressing and we have a vision of the type of team we want to be in the future.
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Apr 29, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
maybe it’s just Fangio messing around with the players and locking the doors.
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by Giant Voodoo on Apr 29, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Just until monday, apparently
The stay, according to a source familiar with the players’ interests, would be of the “administrative” variety, meaning the lockout would not be lifted until Monday at the earliest. At that point, the Eighth Circuit would weigh the players’ argument against a stay pending the league’s appeal of Nelson’s ruling to the Eighth Circuit and decide whether to keep the stay in place until they render a decision on the appeal.
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Thats IF the 8th circuit would change their mind.
No reason they change their mind if they just granted a stay.
Goodel is gonna get booed … i hope he cries.
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Apr 29, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
stupid espn.
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Apr 29, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
ESPN
should be ashamed of themselves. They knew the stay hadn’t been granted and that the 8th circuit was still deciding on the matter. Hell we all knew that the stay wouldn’t be granted till at least monday…why report such a story unless it was planted by an owner? I hate this crap.
"The year we beat Miami in the Super Bowl, ... do you know how many defensive linemen were in our rotation? Nine, and we used them all quite a bit. We just wore the Dolphins out."
Bill Walsh quote
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Apr 29, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
3rd round CBs
There’s been a lot of talk about guys like Burton, House, etc.. and deservedly so, but little on Shareece Wright from USC. He’s got some decent measureables (~5’11, 185, 4.42), plays big for his size like former trojan teammate and current NY Giant Terrell Thomas. Very agressive tackler, something the niners lacked last year and has above average coverage skills. Maybe could turn into a good number two guy. Displayed cold hands though, couldn’t record any interceptions last season.
its gonna be how i used to rig my lines in madden.
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Dana Stubblefield and Bryant Young quality, IMO.
I think they’d have liked a real big DT/NT so this pick could fizzle, but it has the potential to be a terrific pick; like DS and BY terrific.
always free agency and the second round, fairley would be hard pressed not to play hard next to suh and they would be pretty hard to run against that line. lions are going to be decent. far cry from when they drafted three wr’s very high in the first round three years in a row and they all ended up beings busts.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 29, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
BTW off topic
but dont click on the blue on the sides of the page..i did so inadvertently and got a head and shoulder’s commercial..ninernation??
there are always advertisements there.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 29, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
worst thing about the site.
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ya, just try to avoid it.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 29, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
other sites don't do it. It's really aggravating the amount of ads on NN now.
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it gets me sometimes when I try to scroll up or down, at first I did not realize what it was lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Apr 29, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
football sites
I think it’s on all the football sites. Away from my computer right now so can’t check it. If it’s not on every football site, then it’s a matter of our media market or traffic to the site. SB Nation sells the ad space.
by David Fucillo on Apr 29, 2011 1:02 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
anyone noticed
how some pundits are so negative before the draft than after they are picked they are singing them praises.
lol
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haha can't start looking like an a-hole on TV
esp to the families / friends of players celebrating the big day.
i think these positions might dominate the second round.
wide receivers
running backs
tight ends
corner backs
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I think this position will dominate
football players
QUESTION: When is our QB going to answer questions like "You only threw 4 TD's today. What's wrong with the offense?"
ANSWER: When Andrew Luck ditches the draft and we sign him as an undrafted free agent!!!
I would be happy with Johnny Patrick in the 2nd
If Maiocco’s prediction comes true, I would be happy with Patrick Peterson in the second round.
And then Stanzi in the 3rd.
We can grab a quality RB in the 4th.
Patrick Peterson in the 2nd round
would be most nice indeed.
Especially since Arizona already picked him.
Trade
Anyone think the Pats will trade the 33rd pick? To us? For maybe this years 3rd and next years 2nd? Grab a QB of our choice and a CB.
QUESTION: When is our QB going to answer questions like "You only threw 4 TD's today. What's wrong with the offense?"
ANSWER: When Andrew Luck ditches the draft and we sign him as an undrafted free agent!!!
I think it's a possibility
But it would probably be for something more like this years 2nd and next years 3rd. If the Niners really like Andy Dalton it seems pretty obvious that they will have to get ahead of the Bengals. That leaves 2 options, the Pats or the Broncos.
Next years 2nd
I just hoping to have two 2nd round picks this year so we can still grab a CB after we grab the QB. Even with the drafting of Smith, he won’t be a beast instantly and our current CB’s are still shaky at best.
QUESTION: When is our QB going to answer questions like "You only threw 4 TD's today. What's wrong with the offense?"
ANSWER: When Andrew Luck ditches the draft and we sign him as an undrafted free agent!!!
If you want to keep this years 2nd and get to 33
it would take a lot of other chips to the the Patriots to agree. Might have to throw in both 4’s with the 3rd round pick and future 2nd. Or you could make a deal like the one with the Panthers a couple years ago and send next years first for the 33. Either way I think it would cost too much to get a 2nd without giving up the Niner’s own 2nd.
The Pat's phone is ringing off the hook right now - They're looking for highest bidder among QB seekers.
by DeathValleyCarl on Apr 29, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
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