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2011 NFL Draft Grades: 49ers Picks Likely Leading To Mixed Analysis

The general refrain is you can't really fully grade a draft class for at least five years. There are some exceptions, but that's a fairly common phrase. Of course, that's not going to stop us from looking at draft grades the day after picks are made! The 2011 NFL Draft is not yet complete but that hasn't stopped the likes of CBSSports.com's Pete Prisco and others from providing their instant analysis. And we're here to peer into their twisted minds.

Additionally, I've attached a grading poll because as with yesterday, I'm curious to hear see how folks feel within a day of the picks. This grade will mean next to nothing five years from now, let alone five months from now, but I figure it will be useful for posterity purposes.

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Late last night, Prisco provided his grades for the 49ers second and third round picks. He gave the Kaepernick trade and pick a B+:

They need a quarterback, but this kid might take some time to get on the field. He is a bit raw. But if they hit, they might get a real steal.

On the other end of the spectrum, he gave the selection of cornerback Chris Culliver a D, which was the lowest grade the third round. He also happened to give the 49ers first round pick, Aldon Smith, the only D of the first round:

[Culliver] is a reach. Does he play safety or corner? Most had him as a late-round guy. There were better options.

I started writing up this post late last night and as I searched around the Internet for some draft grades, all that was coming up for 2011 was Bleacher Report article after Bleacher Report article. Of course, maybe that's a sign I shouldn't be posting about grades. I guess I'll keep that in mind in the future.

For now, I'd say in trying to predict grades, for whatever that's worth, I think we'll see some consistency with Prisco's grades. I know not everybody likes the Kaepernick pick, but I think generally speaking there is a positive reaction to it. I would bet that most grades will be in the B to A- range for Kaepernick.

On the other hand, I doubt we'll see many positive grades at all for the Chris Culliver pick. There are people who are OK with this pick, but the general thought on this pick was either "Huh?" or "WTF?!?!" and I think that will carry over in to national grading. Whether you agree or disagree with the final grades, I think it's safe to say that enough of the national media doesn't know what they're talking about a lot of the time. Just like I only know so much about other NFL teams, non-Bay Area media knows only so much.

Poll
How would you grade the 49ers day two performance?
A
173 votes
B
619 votes
C
556 votes
D
173 votes
F
103 votes

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Mallett was in the top 3 in terms of talent this year. This is just 49ers draft hell like usual, with all 3 picks being a risk/"stretch" It’s hard to win the lottery one time, but im glad we decided to see if we can win 3 times. Draft grade is a D at best and a few games into the season could go down, just like when we drafted a kid out of Ball State, same thing different year.

by asa217 on Apr 30, 2011 5:57 AM PDT reply actions  

I voted D

I can live with the Kaepernick pick and I understand why we had to trade up to get him. Dude is an athlete, is versatilve and has a rocket arm. As far as the negatives, Harbaugh can fix the kid’s long delivery and it’s pretty easy for a pro team’s workout regimen to fix those skinny legs.

The Culliver pick? That skewed my grading. I’m not a fan of this guy – especially with Brandon Harris still available. He must already know he’s not going to prove himself at a position because, according to Matt Barrow’s quote, he’s okay with being shuffled around:

“I feel like they’re not going to let me fail, and if I fail at that position I guess they can always let me go (to safety),” Culliver said. – Sac Bee

I feel like we’ve chosen arguably decent project guys over the first two days, but we’ve missed out on the best players at the positions we’ve drafted.

by TDP on Apr 30, 2011 5:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Brandon Harris wasn't availibale in the 3rd round

But we could probably get someone better.
Anyway, Although the Smith and Culliver were not popular we should be patient.
A lot of the pre draft hyped prospects turned out as busts.
Grade someone before he even took 1 snap is done only due to rating purposes and is practicly a joke

by Roy_from_Israel on Apr 30, 2011 6:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, I was thinking Harris went to Houston in the third.

I give my comment an F.

by TDP on Apr 30, 2011 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Day 3 shopping list

I will be glad to see us landing those players today:
Taiwan Jones, Edmund Gates, Owen Marecic

Generally I think we should get today an RB, WR, NT, FB, another CB, C and K (Nedney is almost 40)

by Roy_from_Israel on Apr 30, 2011 6:04 AM PDT reply actions  

Voting on this now is meaningless

Would it make a difference if we knew that Aldon Smith would have 12.5 sacks and be defensive rookie of the year?

by Jaxson876 on Apr 30, 2011 6:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Not for this poll

since it is for day two picks and Aldon was a day one pick lol

by sanfranfanmdk on Apr 30, 2011 6:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I gave an A. Here is why.

1. Yes Aldon Smith does have a lot of potential but that doesn’t mean he’s a project. If you watch his games he has amazing inside moves are well amazing. The reason people say he has so much potential is because of all of room he has on his body.
2. Outside of Kaepernick throwing motion is there anything wrong with him? Harbaugh even said that the throwing motion is good. The lockout needs to end now. He is a smart guy and lives near the team facility. Even then he still plans on staying there a few days. Given the chance to compete I wouldn’t be surprised to see him start day 1.

Kellen Moore is awesome
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by manraj7 on Apr 30, 2011 6:28 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

where's the spin on Chris Culver?

3. Culver had the third fastest 40 time among CBs in this draft, he holds return records from SC, so he can contribute to special teams right away, and he has a high ceiling. Could become a steal in the third round, but likely won’t be a total bust because he can return punts.

by reedkrase on Apr 30, 2011 6:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I had no idea who he was.

Didn’t get time to watch him. So I can’t say.

Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
Im not competitive I just addicted to winning.

by manraj7 on Apr 30, 2011 7:14 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

He has to beat out Ginn

who was electric on PR last year. No guarantee of contribution at all. Plus he’s coming off a major injury.

by See Jay on Apr 30, 2011 7:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

There are other things than just kicking and returning in ST.

Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
Im not competitive I just addicted to winning.

by manraj7 on Apr 30, 2011 7:51 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

WHAT NO WAY

I know that, but reedkrase pointed out that he can contribute because he’s a good returner, and I’m just saying he’s got competition…

by See Jay on Apr 30, 2011 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

dude do you work in PR?

you’re awesome at spinning a positive on things

by boondockredwing on Apr 30, 2011 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

One thing for sure

Baalke and the scouts are running this draft and I respect them for that. Every draft pick made the roster last year and I didn’t like some of those picks.

by Jaxson876 on Apr 30, 2011 6:31 AM PDT reply actions  

You can only give this draft a ( C ) ... as in wait and C how this all pan's out ...!!

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!

by Edggy on Apr 30, 2011 6:38 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

ay ay ay

There’s a lot of commenting on “developmental” players, and how we are taking a lot of players with “upside” as long as they’re developed yada yada yada. As Harbaugh said referring to Kaepernick, sure all players coming out of college need to be developed, absolutely. NONE of the incoming players are finished in their learning, but I think we can all agree that there are some who are more developed than others at the time of the draft.

What I see here is that we have taken some guys (especially Culliver) who are way below where other players at their position were, or at least that’s what we think (from our limited knowledge).

But what I don’t see is true solid players. You look at what the Patriots did, the Browns, Redskins, Colts, and you see that they took some seriously “developed” players. I think Ras-I Dowling is a killer pick! So was Nate Solder. The Redskins just killed on their defense, the Packers got nice strong picks… and we got some seriously obscure DB who hopefully he’ll at least figure out what position he’ll be good at some day?!

I think Drake Nevis, Sione Fua, Allen Bailey, Johnny Patrick and Shareece Wright would have been WAY better picks than Culliver. But then again, I’m not the pro… Cuz we know they never make mistakes.

by alexito on Apr 30, 2011 6:49 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Solder this "developed" prospect fell flat on his face when he went up against Smith.

Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
Im not competitive I just addicted to winning.

by manraj7 on Apr 30, 2011 7:53 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Would have liked to still have 2 picks here in the 4th!!!!!

We could of had a chance to add 2 more playmakers in Doss & Taiwan. Hopefully we can land @least 1. Don’t be surprised if we pick a highly sought after KICKER!! (FYOL) FU&Kin yell out load!!!!

by ninerfolife on Apr 30, 2011 7:16 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

*gets out flame retardant suit again*

Yeah, sang is gonna be “That Guy” again…

I hate that all of our first 3 picks are not day 1 starters, or even likely impact players. We know Kaep will probably sit and that’s OK with me, but a raw, developmental OLB (can’t play much except on passing downs) and a raw 80+ pick reach of a DB who’s coming off a serious injury and doesn’t know which position he plays better (S or CB?) are just bad, bad choices. In the both the first and third, better players were left on the board.

It’s only my opinion and I’m not an expert scout (caveat!) but I think this draft has been 66.6% suck so far. Maybe I’ll be proven wrong (and I’ll be happy if that’s the case!) but right now I see little reason for optimism.

by See Jay on Apr 30, 2011 7:24 AM PDT reply actions  

Oh SHIT!!! I forgot CHRIS CARTE. Is still there!! This gets worse the more I look @ it!!!!

CARTER, TAIWAN, DOSS!! But wait we only have 1 pick in the 4th & none in the 5th. FU&KIN make some moves BALK man. What could we possibly do to move up & get these guys?? Seriously!!!!

by ninerfolife on Apr 30, 2011 7:26 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Could probably package 2 6th and a 7th to get into the late 4th

or use 2012 picks if necessary, but Carter and either Taiwan or Quizz Rodgers would be nice!

by See Jay on Apr 30, 2011 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

and Marecic in the 5th.

I forget… do we have a 5th still?

by See Jay on Apr 30, 2011 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

nope.

one 4th, three 6ths, and four 7ths.

no 5th as of now, but plenty of trade ammo.

We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.

by these3words on Apr 30, 2011 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I forgot all about Chris Carter too.

Completely went over my head that he was still on the board.

We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.

by these3words on Apr 30, 2011 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

My head hurts Either this was a really brillant Draft or 2005 all over again

I really hope and pray that Being at Stanford made Coach H. a freaking mad Genius

I had none of these players on my big board at least last year we got two of my guys. Get me Taiwan or little Mathews

by spirit_of_the_niners on Apr 30, 2011 7:34 AM PDT reply actions  

Players I want us to draft today:

NT Powe, LB Carter, RB Rodgers (or RB Jones or RB Helu), QB Yates (or QB Taylor), WR Salas (if he falls far enough), K Forbath, C O’Dowd.

Doubt we could get all of these (I think the first 3 go in the 4th alone) but some of these are certainly possible. :)

by See Jay on Apr 30, 2011 8:04 AM PDT reply actions  

Yates and Taylor are my two favorite late-round QBs

although I didn’t see Stanzi lasting this long.

We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.

by these3words on Apr 30, 2011 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I'm surprised myself

Washington still hasn’t drafted a QB though so maybe now’s their time.

by See Jay on Apr 30, 2011 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Has Washington drafted anyone after Kerrigan?

They kept trading down.

We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.

by these3words on Apr 30, 2011 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

This draft is so much like last years draft

Look at the Anthony Davis, Mays, and Bowman pick. All guys that were very raw, and still needed time to develop. Iupati was the only safe pick in that draft. It seems like Baalke and Harbaugh are drafting projects with really high upside. This is just my opinion, but could they be looking at the team thinking that there is enough there to at least win the division, while they develop these young guys for the future.

If not some of these picks have been really puzzling to me.

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by EcERyda69 on Apr 30, 2011 8:09 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Yeah you're right

We had a GAPING hole at RT though. FWIW I groaned when we picked Mays because I KNEW he wasn’t going to be ready for a while. Bowman hasn’t shown squat so far either – another puzzling pick, since he was an OLB (43 IIRC) in college.

by See Jay on Apr 30, 2011 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

The problem with Culliver that most have...is that they don't really know who he is.

Had he played the entire year and not benn injured, his draft stock would have been higher, but get injured get forgotten. Gore was 1st round talent but a busted knee dropped him to the 3rd and he was a year removed from the knee injury. Culliver tore his pectoral and so there isn’t concern abvout how it will affect his running, like a knee injury will do. Culliver is the 2nd most athletic CB in the draft and the fact that he was listed as a saftey and the pundits didn’t really know what position he would play is the reason he was dropped so low. Mayock had him rated in the 6th round, but Mayock didn’t draw up the boards for all 32 NFL teams. Some teams had Culliver as a 3rd or 4th round prospect.

by ericalancanty on Apr 30, 2011 8:38 AM PDT reply actions  

u must be psychic

because you knew that “some teams had Culliver as a 3rd or 4th round prospect.” Seriously? get real, man. Teams guard their draft boards like state secrets. Unless you have Julian Asange and a guy on the inside, you couldn’t possibly know how teams valued this guy. If I remember correctly, Culliver had exactly ZERO INTS last year. Doesn’t exactly sound like someone I’d want on my team. I’m not pretending to be a scout, but measurables don’t exactly add up to production (see Mays, Taylor). You have to have a natural knack for playing the position as well and it doesn’t sound like this guy is very confident at either position. He even said “and if I fail at that position I guess they can always let me go (to safety).” I must admit I didn’t know anything about Culliver but immediately drew a negative impression of him when I heard that.

by touandcim on Apr 30, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

D

Smith is the ultimate tweener, too slow for outside LB(4.80) to small for down lineman. They better put 30 lbs on him. The QB in round two is ok. The third round pick was a complete disaster.

Baalke is mediocre at best.

by The Sear on Apr 30, 2011 8:45 AM PDT reply actions  

He'll be a pass rush specialist

I don’t see him doing much coverage

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Norm Sloan

"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."

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by EcERyda69 on Apr 30, 2011 8:48 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

totally agree

I didn’t mind the trade up for Kaepernik but we could have at least taken someone that was a natural fit into the scheme. I don’t believe he can be an every down guy and for someone picked that high, the value just isn’t there. Robert Quinn had a better chance at being an OLB than Smith. I would have even loved if we had “reached” for JJ Watt. Justin Smith was arguably our best defensive player last year and I would have been ecstatic if we had gotten his clone. Now we have a tweener and an obscure DB that had exactly zero INTs last year. Puke. Baalke is in over his head and only Scotty M. could have done worse (and probably did with the Sea Chickens).

by touandcim on Apr 30, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

IT'S ALL PART OF THE PLAN

to tank the season and get LUCK in next year’s draft

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by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 30, 2011 9:03 AM PDT reply actions  

not my own original thought...

…but I read somewhere else something else that made sense to me. maybe harbaugh and baalke are choosing the best athlete at each position of need – smith, kaepernick, cullivery – height, weight, speed – all of these guys fit Harbaugh’s “I want athletes” notion. He said he wants guys who, if you roll out a ball, any ball, they pick it up and compete, and probably beat you. The ‘niners’ picks so far all fit that ‘maybe not the most NFL ready, but most athletic’ strategy. that said… not wowed so far. I’m definitely in a ‘trust the pros’ place, so I’m trusting that Baalke and Harbaugh have done their homework and know what they want.

by mwright84 on Apr 30, 2011 9:15 AM PDT reply actions  

This seems to be the case

And is what makes this so hard to judge, so far as how well we did. It really all depends on how well our coaching staff can coach these new, young players and how fast they can maximize their potential. Since we have yet to see the staff in action at the NFL level, it’s a big question mark. We can only presume and put our faith in their ability at this time.

As for me, I am willing to put that faith in them. Just about ALL of us really wanted Harbaugh, now I think it only fair that we give him and his staff the benefit of the doubt until we have something to contrary to go by.

So I graded a B. I think an “A” would be presuming too much. A “C” means we do not expect anything more than an “average” result, which would seem to under-sell our expectations in the new staff…

by ColoradoNiner on Apr 30, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

A high B from me...

I like the trade up for Kaepernick, who was probably the QB I wanted most this draft. I also like the priorities we’ve established (pass rushing OLB, QB, CB). I’m just a little uncertain about the guy we took as a CB.

by Bigmouth on Apr 30, 2011 10:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Is picking guys who are a year away a smart strategy for a team which needs to add talent on both sides of the ball?

eg, if these guys aren’t really going to be ready for a year, does that just mean we’re drafting higher next year (relative to if we drafted more polished guys)?

There’s more risk in guys who have more development to do, and that’s a real concern. And as much as I know that everyone wants a playoff berth now, the goal is to build a contender. If the choice is between a guy who can start game one with a 80 ceiling and a guy who might be a year or two away with a 95 ceiling, isn’t the latter the right choice?

by Ronaldinho on Apr 30, 2011 10:47 AM PDT reply actions  

agreed

We still probably wouldn’t know what we had in these guys a year from now (just like our WHOLE DRAFT CLASS from last year MINUS Mike “I’m gonna make” Iupati). That means that we would go into the 2012 draft class questioning if we need players at the same positions or not. So far, not a big fan of Baalke drafts.

by touandcim on Apr 30, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

49er draft complete: One fans opinion

After some thought, I will give Harbaugh and Baalke the benefit of the doubt that both of them know their picks and the choices may grow into the positions. Mr. Baalke stressed that the team does its homework carefully. However, today you picked at 4, Hunter, RB from Okla. State and passed on Rogers at OSU that went to Falcons as well as passed on C. Mathews, LB pass rusher at Ore.? Mathews was taken by Reid in Philly. Do remember a receiver named De Sean at Cal that Reid took (and we passed-when we needed a speed wide-out)!? I am long time 49er fan, but this thing of Philly seeming to find and take our west coast gems in our own backyard that make it BIG— truly bothers me! Is anyone listening? I truly hope I am wrong and that Baalke is on target! But at this moment, I am very skeptical with the " huh" first and " who" in third picks! I would have preferred the 49ers taken the Prince or Cameron Jordan in first or traded down. But what do we 49er faithful really know. Go 49ers!

by ajp49er on May 1, 2011 12:49 AM PDT reply actions  

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