2011 NFL Mock Draft: Mocking The Draft Seven Round Community Mock Draft
by David Fucillo on Apr 4, 2011 11:00 AM PDT
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PrintThis past weekend, the community at Mocking The Draft took some time to conduct a live community mock draft that covered all seven rounds. The draft was conducted using the commenting system within FanPosts and I've posted links to each round after the jump. If I'm reading it right, manraj7 was handling the 49ers picks in the draft. You can read all the discussion and picks by click on the round-by-round links after the jump.
Before I get to the 49ers results of the mock draft, I wanted to let folks know we will still have a community mock draft. Things have been a bit busy for Drew and myself so it's been a bit delayed. We'll have something figured out so we can get one in before the NFL Draft at the end of the month. On to the 49ers picks:
1. Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU
2. Jabaal Sheard, DE, Pittsburgh
4. Owen Marecic, FB, Stanford
4. Colin Kaepernick, QB, Nevada
5. Richard Sherman, CB, Stanford
6. Kai Forbath, K, UCLA
6. Chase Beeler, C, Stanford
7. Martin Parker, DT, Richmond
7. Mario Harvey, LB, Marshall
7. Allen Bradford, RB, USC
7. Shaun Chapas, FB, Georgia
The Patrick Peterson was made possible because manraj7 traded up from the seventh spot to the Bengals fourth spot using a third round pick. I'd be happy with such a deal, but I just don't know if a third rounder is enough to make up the difference between the fourth and seventh pick. Do people think it's a realistic trade?
The biggest surprise to me revolves around Colin Kaepernick. First, is Colin Kaepernick actually going to last until the fourth round? Second, is the fact that this draft has the 49ers selectin Owen Marecic and then grabbing Kaepernick later. That seems a little odd, particularly given how Kaepernick has risen on Big Boards. I'll have a more specific post on Kaepernick tomorrow.
Beyond that, what do people think of this mock? I'm not sure if I'm missing any trades, so feel free to add any information I might be missing about how all this went down. It was a bit difficult to figure out exactly what trades went down beyond that first round deal with the Bengals.
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I actually was at a conference
So I communicated via email. The 7th round picks other than the first two I had no voice in. Since the guy I was emailing went out and I wasn’t there. So don’t judge the draft on the last two picks.
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As for the questions
1. Its a pretty good trade. I got like 100ish points out of it. But if you think about it the Bengals move down 3 spots and got a free 3rd rounder.
2. I am surprised that Kaepernick fell that far too. If I had known I would have picked him before Owen.
3. That was the only trade I made. I tried to get a third but I couldn’t find a trade.
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i wouldnt be surprised to see Baalke trade up in the 1st
he did it last year, and bundling a bunch of our extra late picks to move up for PP7 would be easily worth it IMO. the questions is whether anybody would be willing to do it.
I could have gotten my third back
for 2 fourths but I decided not too. Tried to get it by using my 4th and 5th didn’t work
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No on Owen in the 4th
I would not pick a FB before the 6th round, anything higher than a 6th is a wasted draft pick for a part timer that isn’t any kind of offensive threat.
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Could be but don’t waste a 4th on him is my point. I would much rather have a 2nd CB like Curtis Marsh, Jalil Brown or Buster Skrine with that pick (assuming you get Peterson in the 1st), or possibly RB like Jamie Harper, Taiwan Jones or Delone Carter, you could even go for C/G like Kristofer O’Dowd or Steven Schilling, also available at that time would probably be WR Terrence Tolliver or ILB Colin McCarthy any of these guys would be more valuable than Marecic as possible starters on offense or defense (eventually), and most of them would be more valuable even on ST than Owen. If Marecic is still there in the 6th go ahead and take him just not in the 4th.
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True
But you didn’t address the issue that lost of the guys that I mentioned would be better on ST than Marecic. Why don’t you address the issue?
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I don't see how they will be better on ST than Marecic.
Marecic has the necessary components for the non-specialty part of ST. He can block and practiced to block as a FB in college. Which helps the return part of ST. He was a great ILB in college. Which will help the coverage part of the game. Since ST happens so fast instincts is an integral part of the coverage unit.
As for the Offense and Defense.
He would start on Offense unlike the players you specified. He will also be a backup for the best LB tandem in the NFL.
The players you specified in their current positions wouldn’t play. Those positions actually have players who should play in the NFL. Moran Norris shouldn’t be playing FB. Colin McCarthy will never start as an ILB on the Niners nor will Tolliver play WR on the Niners next year. Both of those positions have actual talent.
In conclusion Marecic has 1. Played ST 2. Played ILB 3. Played FB all of his past experiences will allow him to excel not only on the coverage side of ST but also on the return side. He will start NOW on offense not eventually as other players you mentioned and can contribute to D by playing the backup role for ILB. Saving a spot for another position.
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Norris
I would certainly agree with you that Norris shouldn’t be playing FB, but Marecic isn’t much of an improvement, he provides little offensively other than his blocking. He isn’t that good as a runner or receiver to be a threat, like Norris you don’t even need to cover him with a LB on a pass. Of course with Norris I wouldn’t waste anybody in coverage on him. The reason Marecic didn’t workout as a ILB at the combine was because he wasn’t thought of highly enough at that position, the 49ers have better ILB backups currently on their roster who are very good ST players.
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4th Round??
Other than Marecic, the highest FB picked came late in the 5th with Washington’s pick, next was a mid 6th Rounder by Detroit in this mock draft, the rest of the FB’s were taken in the 7th round. I think those are much more reasonable spots than a high 4th. To settle this issue I would be willing to bet that the real 49ers, if they take Marecic, won’t do it before the 6th round. I’m certain if Harbaugh thinks as highly of Marecic as you do he will take him before the 6th round, correct?
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Harbaugh said that Marecic was the best Football player he has ever watched.
In fact Harbaugh man crush on Marecic is bigger than mine on Kellen Moore. Harbaugh is the reason why Marecic is so hyped. Also those players were picked later because they are not as good or versatile as Marecic.
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Rathman was taken with the 56th pick
Considering he’s who will be in charge of these guys I’m pretty sure he doesn’t consider the 100+th pick we’d be using on Marecic to be too high.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 4, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Apples and Oranges
Rathman was actually used in the running and passing game back when FB’s were a real part of the offense and gained over 6 yard per rush (7.5 as a senior).
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How do you know that Harbaugh doesn't wanna bring the FB back as an offensive weapon?
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 4, 2011 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
He already said he does
One his quotes the last month, talking about how TE and FB play make a serious differences in an offense. Although Harbaugh hasn’t said anything about a particular FB many draft experts think there are much better options than Marecic
...
harbaugh has a huge mancrush on Marecic. Its huge it makes my man crush on the great fantastic possibly the best college QB ever Kellen Moore look like the flavor of the week love.
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He wasn't asked to run or throw at Stanford.
But the times he was thrown too he caught the ball. FBs are short yardage backs you don’t give them the ball to get 60 yards. He does quite well in that affect. He can also block in the passing game and run game making him a 3 down player.
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Rathman did
Rathman was noted for his long runs at Nebraska, not to mention his blocking. So are you willing to take my bet? Should be an easy bet for you, right?
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Rathman ran the power I in college I believe. So that didn’t really translate as well to the west coast at the time. Rathman was just an incredible athlete and was surprisingly nimble. Marecic is also an incredible athlete. But I agree, apples and oranges. Tom was a niner over two decades ago and a lot has changed
What bet?
FB now are not known for the long runs. They are big power backs.
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by manraj7 on Apr 4, 2011 3:04 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Today they are undersized guards.
In today’s game FB are more like undersized guards than power running backs as they were in Rathman’s day. Rathman had quite a few long runs as a senior at Neb. which is how he gained 7.5 yards per carry as a senior, not to mention 800+ yards.
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So you say that it doesn't matter that if they can run or catch?
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What it means is you don't take him in the 4th round!
Especially before a position of need like QB. You were Dam* lucky that Kaepernick was stil there after taking Marecic early in the 4th when he (Marecic) would still be available in the 5th and probably the sixth. You didn’t do your homework or you consumed too many adult beverages while waiting for your 4th round picks.
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Because that issue is up for debate and I'd say you're wrong
Marecic is a very solid LB.
Or maybe you didn’t know he played both ways.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 4, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
ILB
If he was so solid a ILB, why did the combine not work him out there?
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He said in an interview because teams at the NFL level want him to focus on fullback
Same reason that Charles Woodson didn’t work out as a RB at the combine despite having good stats when he played.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 4, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Why show off why you're the 20th best ILB in the draft
When you can show off why you’re the #1 FB on the board.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 4, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
The you are a UDFA
If you are the 20th best ILB you are going to be an undrafted FA, and if you are the TOP FB maybe you go late in the 5th round, but more likely the 6th.
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But if you play both effectively and 1 very well
You move yourself up the board.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 4, 2011 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Skrine stinks. His tape is horrible
For all that speed he gets beat deep regularly
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 4, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Doesn't matter
Evidently Skrine was picked early in the 4th round but Jalil Brown was still available.
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By people that have never watched his tape
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by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 4, 2011 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I think so too...
Owen is versatile and a great athlete.
"The way a team plays as a whole determines its success. You may have the greatest bunch of individual stars in the world, but if they don't play together, the club won't be worth a dime."
agree 100%
and picking a FB before a QB?…sorry manraj ST is important, but thats all the kid gonna do and block for gore, no catching abilities whatsoever, Norris 2.0 without the ST skills
I actually dislike most of the QBs in this draft.
So I am hoping we don’t draft a Qb and so that we can draft a QB in 2012.
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I would not have waisted a 3 rounder to go up and get Peterson. He may very well be there at #7 and if he isn't there are still some good top of the line players available.
Also, The second round is for QB not a DE. DE is not a big need.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Sheard is an OLB in the 3-4
also Peterson wouldn’t have made it to #7. There were people who were willing to trade up to get him. The Niners are not the only team who needs a QB. If I had a third rounder who would you pick?
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really?
no way pp is going to be there, the mocks that put him at 7 are smoking something. it’s a great trade
Especially when you throw in trades
def not gonna happen
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watch out for houston
where they’re at… everyone they need seems to be gone. i think if the niner’s don’t, someone else will.
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I would have liked another QB in later rounds.
Alaska is a state, dammit! Can I get a Niner game on TV up here?
If you trade to #4 you need to take Cam Newton. I love Peterson but
he will likely be there at #7. And as much as we need a cb we need a qb even more. Newton was the best player in college football in 2010 and we have the right guy to coach him.
Peterson didn't last to #7 did he
So can’t say he will fall to #7.
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*thumbs down*
Cam Newton will giving shower service at San Quentin by his 3rd season if he comes out here. If he goes somewhere else it will be whatever their local peneteniary is.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 4, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Ingram didn't have to play against the best run D in the SEC
cause its his team.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 4, 2011 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Forbath over Henry?
Why did you pick Forbath over Henry im the 6th round?
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I'm a homer.
Also Henery doesn’t do kickoffs.
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Now you will say that kickers shouldn't be picked in the draft and they should go UDFA.
But I would rather have my guy and reach for him than end up with a lower ranked guy.
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Answer the question that is asked
Obviously you are a homer, but I think taking the better kicker is more important than being a homer. Who said Henery won’t being doing kickoffs?
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He didn't do them in college. Not planning on gambling on a kicker.
And I did answer the question.
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by manraj7 on Apr 4, 2011 2:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
So you think bring a good kicker is more about kickoffs than FG range and accuracy?
Just want to make sure what your thinking is on the issue.
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They both have the same range and accuracy.
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Not reality based.
Henery is much more accurate than Forbath, plus he had just under 44 yards as his punting average which would make him valuable as a backup to Lee in case of injury.
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Right because Lee and punters in general get hurt a lot don't they.
Because they are always in the middle of the action.
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Reality
Punters are very exposed while punting and it is something you have to take into consideration. Besides Henery is much more accurate than Forbath as a FG kicker and holds the college record for accuracy at 89.5% (the previous record was 87.8) while Forbath was only 13-18 as a senior.
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You forgot to mention the don't touch the punter rule.
Kai Forbath was given the best K award in 2009. BTW did you look at the kicks he missed?
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Forbath
Regressed in 2010 and actually missed 4-7 from the 40-49 and doesn’t kick that well in adverse conditions.
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Did he miss them or were they blocked?
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So it doesn't matter for Marecic that he plays ILB
But it matters that Henery can punt?
lmao
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 4, 2011 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Well thats because Punters get hurt easily.
ILB don’t get hurt. Also friendly note Alex Henery was selected to the Senior Bowl as a punter not a Kicker.
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Stanford myopia?
I think the bigger problem is rating Stanford players too highly I don’t think Marecic is worth a 4th, but possibly a 6th, Sherman is worth a flyer in the 7th, not the 5th, and Beeler is FA material not a 6th.
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Marecic is worth a 4th
and his coach who will be advocating for him was taken with the 1st pick in the 3rd.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 4, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Wanna Bet?
Come on, name your wager.
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Probably so
I’m going to be saying that anyway, I just wanted to know how serious they are about the subject.
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Sherman is a WR that just finished his second year at CB.
He played press corner and is extremely athletic.
Beeler is extremely intelligent and I like my C to come from a great educational school. Because the C has to be the smartest player on the field. If he bulls up and gets stronger he will be a solid starting C at the least. Until the he will be a solid back up C.
We already discussed Marecic.
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by manraj7 on Apr 4, 2011 2:59 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Is he as good as Wallace?
Is Beeler as ‘good’ as Cody Wallace?. I don’t care how smart your center is if he’s going to get pancaked, better to take Beeler as a FA than waste a draft pick on him.
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No such thing as UDFA if there is no CBA.
Didn’t I say when he bulks up?
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Then you don't waste a pick on him.
You’re assuming that he hasn’t already ‘bulked up’. I thought that was one of the things that Harbaugh did with his Stanford linemen.
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You can still bulk up.
He weighs about 285lbs.
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Stop! Homer time.
Because I am a UT guy, I’d take Acho over Sheard. Same statistical production. Same measurables, but Acho is a pretty good kid with some solid academic credentials on top of being a good member of the community.
Sheard is going to be a better pass rusher right out of college. Acho is a much more complete player with more experience as an OLB.
Maybe
I like sheard though. He got arrested for throwing a guy out of a window how cool is that. He threw him out because the guy was jumping his friend.
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i like that the niners don't have any off field issues
we’ve actually got a pretty clean history of player conduct. it’s part of the team’s image. definitely something to respect.
i’m not afraid to admit my homerism, but i feel like adding a pure pass rush type OLB is just going to add to our rotation of situational players. If we lose manny, there’s a definite hole to fill, and Acho is a lot more pro-ready than Sheard is.
as far as the glass incident. maybe sheard should play hockey?
by t p on Apr 4, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I like them both just had Sheard higher.
I will watch Acho again and see what you see in him.
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smart, and totally realistic trade
i think cinci would pull the trigger on that trade w/ sf if they’re locked into taking a receiver. even more likely if they rate jones and green equal. then they know that even if cle grabs one, they get the other, plus a rnd 3…
and from our point, we get an answer to what’s missing on a good defense, and make it great. even if we had the #1 overall, no one else in this year’s draft can make the impact that peterson can. gabbert, at best, would equal what smith did coming out of college. and newton, no way. we get to rub j.russel in oakland’s face for the next decade still, we’re not giving them a comeback.
Love it!
Especially if we can pull it off. Marecic being trained by Rathman, this is going to be as good as it gets.
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Frankly I think this draft sucks big time and other than the top two picks is a complete waste and was done by someone that isn’t interested in the 49ers having the best players, but their favs. When I get a chance I will submit who I would have taken with the picks as soon as I can review who was available when. That someone would pick Marecic in the 4th over Kaepernick is very telling.
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Don’t you think this is coming across too much like a personal attack saying that his contributions to the site is a complete waste just because you disagree with him? Show us your draft and we can judge it too. But I’m pretty sure that saying that your ideas suck will not go over well
Its cool man.
He is entitled to his own opinion. Of course I did use some personal bias when I was picking players. Some players are closely ranked to their competitors. I thought I went BUP for the first 5 rounds then went more towards improving the team for the future and now.
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Great Job
I really like the draft. I dont’ really know much about Jabaal Sheard though. Would we have him playing DE or OLB?
I'll tell you how I would have gone if the draft fell this way.
1. PP7 CB
2. Stephan Paea DE
4. Colin Kaepernick QB
4. Owen Maeric FB
5. Quizz Rodgers RB
6. Ugo Chinasa OLB
6. DeAndre Brown WR
7. Mario Harvey OLB
7. Kenny Rowe OLB
7. Scott Tolzien QB
7. Taiwan Jones RB/ST
4th Round
Does it matter who we draft first if we get both of them? Plus if you look at the 4th round, after the 49ers first pick there are only 6 teams before our second one. All 6 teams are pretty set on the QB position (expected the Raiders who are a wild card). I would rather get Owen first than Colin 2nd.
However I doubt that Colin will be there in the 4th round.
The way I look at it.
If we still had a third rounder I would have picked Colin there. That’s the difference Colin’s worthy of a higher pick and fits our biggest need.
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