San Francisco 49ers 2010 Draft, One Year Later: Taylor Mays
Following the 2009 season Taylor Mays was considered a top 10 pick by most draft experts. However sating himself, Pete Carroll, talked Mays into returning for his senior season. The USC coaching staff decided to have Mays switch roles after an All-American junior year, and the results were not great. To add insult to injury, Taylor Mays saw his draft stock plummet and Carroll pass up on him twice in the 1st round; once time in favor of another safety, Earl Thomas. While, that seems to have been a good move for Seattle; it couldn't have felt good for Mays.
Luckily for the 49ers they saw Taylor Mays fall onto their lap in the 2nd round. I considered it an absolute steal to get a player with top five athletic ability in the middle of the 2nd round.
2nd Round, 49th Pick: S- Taylor Mays Southern California
2010 Stats: 16 Games, 6 Starts, 38 Tackles, 2 Passes Defended, 2 Forced Fumbles, 1 TD
How much better could it have turned out for the 49ers in the 2nd round of the 2010 draft. In Taylor Mays they were able to address a while getting tremendous value. This is a player that pretty much dominated at the college level for most of his career and could have possibly come right in as a starting safety. After all, this was a Mike Singletary type of player; someone that wasn't afraid to stick his neck out there and punish the opposing offensive players.
That said, it didn't turn out as great as some people envisioned. Taylor Mays had a difficult transition not only from the PAC 10 to the NFL, but also by pretty much switching positions for the third time in two years.
Taylor Mays got his first start against the Falcons in week 4 and surprised many people with a solid stat line of 11 tackles and 9 solo. However, it really didn't equate to well in the game as the Falcons won towards the end.
This started a nice stretch of games in which Mays was involved a great deal in the defensive scheme and seemed to be maturing as a player. He was extremely solid for a good month, but something changed. Following a strong performance in which Mays had 7 tackles in a win against the Broncos; he was slowly lifted from the regular safety rotation. In the 49ers final 8 games Taylor Mays recorded a total of six tackles.
Some of this had to do with a perceived regression on the part of Taylor Mays by the 49ers coaching staff. That said, I don't think they handled the situation correctly. Taylor Mays was going to go through bumps and bruises during the season, most rookies do. Sometimes, you have to allow the rookie to play through mistakes and mature as a place. However, Mike Singletary's job was on the line and he had to go with the players who had the most experience. I really don't think the situation helped Mays mature during his rookie season.
I fully expect Taylor Mays to have a standout 2011 season. The 49ers added some nice coaches to the secondary, have a staff that isn't worried about being fired and will play the youngsters. Listen, Taylor Mays has all the athletic ability in the world, he has the maturity off the field like a pro and is a great learner. If Mays gets the right coaching there is no reason to believe that he won't be a top level safety in the NFL.
2nd Round, 50th Pick: CB- Javier Arenas Alabama
2010 Stats: 16 Games, 2 Starts, 43 Tackles, 9 Passes Defended, 3 Sacks, 2 Forced Fumbles, 0 INT
8.2 Punt Return Average, 21.2 Kick Return Average
Analysis: Boy did Arenas fill up the stat boards in 2011, but does that mean he was a standout player? Normally, stats do not tell the entire story, but in his case they did. Listen, I was a huge fan or Arenas' heading into the 2010 draft, but I may be bias. But, he may end up being one of the true steals of that draft.
Logic tells you that 5, 9' corners will not succeed in the NFL, but logic has its downfalls. From what I saw in Arenas at Alabama in college and with Kansas City in the NFL, I am as high on him as any none 1st round pick since the 2007 draft. Look for Arenas to contribute in all aspects of the field, including offense, for the next ten years; he is that talented.
That said, the acquisition of Ted Ginn prior to the 2010 draft pretty much took Javier Arenas off of their immediate radar. Moving forward, it could be noted that Taylor Mays and Javier Areneas were top 15 talents.
2nd Round, 52nd Pick: LB- Jason Worilds Virginia Tech
2010 Stats: 14 Games, 17 Tackles, 12 Solo, 2 Sacks
Analysis: It is going to be extremely hard to analyze whether or not Worilds met expectations as a 2nd round pick last year. The reason for that is he was seen somewhat as a project, someone that would take a year or two to transition to the NFL.
In retrospect, it is hard to question the Steelers draft day decision; but I might have to. Jermaine Cunninghan and Carlos Dunlap (reference below) were probably better options for them. That said, those of us who study the draft understood that Worilds would be a project and probably wouldn't contribute greatly his first year.
2nd Round, 54th Pick: DE- Carlos Dunlap Florida
2010 Stats: 24 Tackles, 9.5 Sacks
Analysis: 9.5 sacks is pretty amazing for a 2nd round rookie. Does this translate to a productive NFL Career? In Dunlap's role it does; at least in a pure pass rush mold.
I am not sure that Dunlap will ever be a true three down player in the NFL, he is horrible against the run. But, so is Demarcus Ware.
I expect Dunlap to be an amazing pass rusher in the NFL, I really do think he has the athletic ability to do so.
Overview: I really do think that the 49ers pick of Taylor Mays was the best one they could have made. We will see a nice amount of success beyond the 49th pick, but not that talent that Mays holds.
In short, Taylor Mays will prove to be a great pick moving forward as will Carlos Dunlap and Javier Arenas. This means that 2nd round picks will succeed in a greater percentage than first round picks during the 2010 draft. I honestly can see that happening.
I cannot and will not question the 49ers pick of Mays because I believe that it will represent a heist two years from now.
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Hopefully Harbaugh, Fangio and Donatell know their stuff
I’m convinced Singletary, and Johnnie Lynn didn’t know what they were doing. (Manusky seemed to be good except when it came to winning games in the end with zone defense)
now if the lockout would end or be lifted
These players could get the coaching they need… I hate to think that this 2011 season will be a waste due to the lack of time to coach and get these guys ready…
2011 season can't come quick enough..
by AzNiner on May 12, 2011 10:29 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
now if the lockout would end or be lifted
These players could get the coaching they need… I hate to think that this 2011 season will be a waste due to the lack of time to coach and get these guys ready…
2011 season can't come quick enough..
by AzNiner on May 12, 2011 10:29 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Modern NFL Demands Coverage Safeties
We all love to think back to the days of Ronnie Lott knocking the snot out of receivers running across the secondary. Does anybody remember that Monday Night game where Steve Attwater knocked back a fast charging 260 lb. Christian Okoye?
But the modern NFL game demands that the everyone in the secondary be able to cover both man and zone. With more and more teams passing more than ever before and using more multiple receiver personnel packages, NFL safeties can no longer be run stuffing thumpers specialists. The days of the extra linebacker in the secondary are going to be numbered. The Niners were lucky in the 80’s with Lott’s pro bowl abilities at Corner and hitting/tackling skills that allowed him to be a hall of fame Safety. Sure we’d all like to have the next super safety with all the skills like Lott. But that’s just not very likely. So the primary skills Safeties need are coverage skills. I don’t care how well they can come up to the line of scrimmage and make the tackle. I’d rather have softer cover guys that make the run saving tackles 5 yards down field. If the opponent’s runners are getting that far past the line of scrimmage, it’s the front 7’s job: down lineman to clog and disrupt their gaps, linebackers flowing and filling their gaps. I no longer differentiate much between the Free and Strong Safety positions. Sure the Strong Safety should maybe be a little stouter for playing closer to the line of scrimmage when required to line up in short zone or in man coverage against a slot receiver or a TE but coverage skills should still be his main asset and not thumping ball carriers.
So why do we have a 6’3" 230 lb thumper of a Safety? Because he plays hard, hits and tackles well? Can he play deep zone? Come up to the line of scrimmage and play man on the slot or TE? (we can’t always be in nickel and dime packages when facing passing personnel packages). Is he just another athlete with potential? It used to be that Corners were in the 180 – 200lb range. And Safeties were typically in the 200lb to 220lb range. 220 lb safeties were rare thumpers even in the run stuffing days. At 6’3 230 bls. with good pursuit and tackling skills, Mays has more in common with former NFL all pro Outside Linebacker Derrick Brooks than with Ed Reed (5’11" 200 lbs) or even Troy Polomalu (5’10 207 lbs). Both Reed and Polomalu are good zone defenders. Reed is great in deep coverage. Polomalu is the rare run defending safety that can play in short and even sometimes deep zones effectively. I’m harping on May’s size but that’s not to say he can’t become an exception and be a jumbo safety superstar. But I think his size makes him less likely to be successful at it. Mays has no history of playing deep zone coverage nor was he asked to in college. He was basically told to line up deep and tackle the crap out of receivers, it’s why he has no ball skills or instincts in coverage…why he often times looks lost. Again, that’s not to say he isn’t trying really hard to learn to be better in deep coverage or that it’s possible he can become successful at gaining those skills. But his lack of experience starts him out at a disadvantage. At the end of the day all we’re left is with a gifted athlete with potential.
by allforfunnplay on May 12, 2011 10:44 AM PDT reply actions
loong, but I agree in general
with hitting and coverage rules, teams need their 4+ defensive backs to have better instincts, coverage knowledge, change of direction, and acceleration than ever before. Some teams realized this 5 years ago, some teams are still fighting it and rotating in new athletic big hitters every year… only to see them be repeatedly burned. Amazing instincts and coverage knowledge and make up for the change of direction and acceleration ( Polumalu ), but Mays does not have great instincts.
Mays most certainly has the body and athletic ability of a tampa-2 outside linebacker.
Saddened by the fact that I’ll be pulling for him to be successful as a safety for several years while he will almost assuredly struggle and fail at an NFL starter level.
by whistlingmountain on May 12, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
specialty packages
I could see him being used in certain specialty packages like (and I hate to dredge up a Nolan term) Big Nickel or Dime package against offenses that either use their TE as a frequent receiver or use a slot receiver package and run out of those packages too. Maybe Mays can provide short area coverage and linebacker like run pursuit/support in those cases. From their maybe he develops better coverage instincts?
by allforfunnplay on May 12, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Did Mays lose his coverage ability over night?
Seriously! The dude played a lot of nickel coverage his Frosh and Junior seasons; then Carroll decided to move him inside in the defensive backfield. If the 49ers put Mays in the right position he will excel in coverage
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by nocal81(Vincent) on May 12, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
nickel back is different than deep safety
nickel backs play off of slot receivers or in short zones where you start off close to the line of scrimmage. typically you cover your short zone or man and when he goes by your zone, you pass him off to another zone coverage guy…it’s much simpler than deep coverage.
the Niners ran a lot of cover 3 and 4 shells: meaning deep zones where you’re not close to the receiver you’re going to cover, where you need to read the offense, understand what the probable play they’re calling and the associated routes the receivers will be running and how that corresponds to your coverage area responsibilities. you have to predict what’s coming at you. when you can do that without thinking…it’s called instincts.
by allforfunnplay on May 12, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
if you have to learn how to do it first, it’s not instincts. Learned behaviors are not instincts.
by Andrew9erfan on May 12, 2011 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions
sure it is
take some cognitive and bio psych classes
by allforfunnplay on May 12, 2011 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I have. An instinct is something thad you are geneticaly predisposed to, not something that is taught.
by Andrew9erfan on May 13, 2011 3:44 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn't learn the desire to stay alive or reproduce
Those are instinctual
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 14, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
If he succeeds, it will be partly due to his size, not in spite of it.
Due to the fact that the NFL WR & TE are so fast and strong, I think big fast DBs (safety or CB) will soon be mandatory & not a luxury. I agree that one-dimensional, run stopping safeties are the thing of the past. Guys like ex-Cowboy Roy Williams, went from pro-bowl performers to a pass coverage liabilities, seemingly overnight. Offensive coordinators exposed these undersized linebackers playing safety. As a result, talent evaluators have been more prone to convert college CBs to safety before opting for the slower, run stopping types of the past. Despite these factors, there has been a number of big safeties (we’ll say 215 lbs+) that have been adept in pass coverage. I’m not going in depth with every example but they do exist. The late Sean Taylor, of course comes to mind. More recently, Adrian Wilson at 230 lbs, and both (6’2) Darren Sharper and Brian Dawkins have played effectively at 215 plus. Even Atlanta’s William Moore had 5 ints last year as a 6’2 220 lb safety. It is true that Reed, Polamalu and Nick Collins are today’s best. It is also true that they are smaller than the aforementioned players. However, with bigger and better athletes moving to WR and TE, there will soon be the need for these hybrid safeties. Fortunately, we don’t have to guard Vernon, but if we did (and when we do face similar threats) I want a coached up DB the size of Taylor over top in coverage.
Not impressed.
Even Pete Carrol had reservationS about drafting Mays. The guy plays a step slow for someone sporting that kind of speed. He also needs to learn how to run through the tackle. Until that time, this pick reminds me a lot of the Dana Hall pick. NOT IMPRESSED!!!
Caroll also knew that he didn’t coach Mays to do what he’d need to do to succeed in the NFL.
by Andrew9erfan on May 12, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Hopefully they send Mays to the QB
I think he could excel doing that.
Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
Im not competitive I just addicted to winning.
How can he excel doing that?
You're not a 49er unless you got a gold star from Trent Baalke. Only "high character" guys get to play for the 49ers. The team is built in the locker room, as we all know.
by BustaTheRippa on May 12, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm guessing...
using his speed in blitzes maybe.
by David Fucillo on May 12, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
speed, strength, surprise
the three s
Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
Im not competitive I just addicted to winning.
We are good on SS/FS
I am curious to see how these young CBs gonna handle being challange to get one of the starting position(s)
I'm in business of giving the business and business is booming!
The 49ers are most definitely not good at SS/FS
and I’d argue most of the big plays they gave up last year were a direct result of blown coverage by the safeties.
It will likely turn into a make or break season for Goldson and Smith, maybe even Mays since he was really a Singletary pick and might not fit at all going forward. Could turn into a position that the 49ers must dip into free agency next year in order to make up for failed draft picks.
by whistlingmountain on May 12, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Completely Disagree
You cannot call Goldson (4th round), Smith (3rd round) and Mays (2nd round) “failed picks”. Maybe, if they were top 20 picks and hadn’t matured a great deal you could. But, as 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks we knew that the learning curve was going to be greater.
Goldson had a sub par 2009 season after completely tearing it up in 2009. Did you forget his stat line the year previous? (77 tackles, 4 INT, and 3 forced fumbles). In fact his AV (Approximate Value) according to pro football reference was 9, better than O.J Atogwe, Antoine Bethea, Antrell Rolle and Brian Dawkins last season
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by nocal81(Vincent) on May 12, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
If Goldson plays poorly enough that the 49ers do not want to resign him after this season
then I would consider him a failed pick. The same with Reggie Smith.
Mays will have 2 more years at most, but being picked in the 2nd round I’d consider him a total bust if he doesn’t become an ok starter.
Really don’t care what statistical value he received 2 years ago. Goldson is what he has always been. He plays really aggressive and gambles, on a game to game basis that can make him look awesome or horrific, but over the long haul of the season he looked bad last year ( still, he looked better than Smith and Mays, who looked even worse for most of the season ).
by whistlingmountain on May 12, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I like the gambling mentality
sometimes it is going to get him burnt, but other times it will pay off. You kind of have to deal with the risk/reward factor in terms of Goldson. If the 49ers were interested in not re-signing Goldson I think that they would have drafted a true safety in April; they didn’t. One down year in a season where the 49ers had a myriad of offensive and defensive issues, doesn’t mean that it is a failed pick.
Reggie Smith came on towards the end of last season and should challenge for a starting spot. He has the range and ability to succeed in the NFL, he just needs to be more sound in recognizing and cutting off routes, reading the QB and playing nickel.
You already know my opinion on Mays as well. I think that it is a stretch to say that even one of these players represent a “failed pick”
Mila "Sweet Lips" Kunis, as stated by Scarlett Johansson. I couldn't agree more. Reverse would be true too!!!!
by nocal81(Vincent) on May 12, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I said he could be, could be, we're both projecting
I’m saying there’s a decent chance he has a bad season and the new defensive staff comes to the conclusion he’s not a fit here as a safety. That would be a massively failed pick.
by whistlingmountain on May 12, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Projections
Are you taking into account Ed Donatell and the new 49ers coaching staff? I don’t think that the prior regime put Mays or Goldson in the best situation to exceed last season.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on May 12, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
That is the primary thing I am taking into account actually
If he had the same coaching staff I think even a bad year would be greeted with some long-term expectation for his development.
A new staff however might become disinterested in him very quickly if they simply do not like what they get out of him early in the season. New staffs do not have the investment in the old players. I really feel like safety and wide receiver are the two positions that could quickly fall out of favor with this new staff, they’re stocked with middling players who have been unable to establish themselves and do not represent any large monetary investment.
by whistlingmountain on May 12, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
How is a 4th round pick
who has started many games “failed”?
Learn the values of each round.
You're not a 49er unless you got a gold star from Trent Baalke. Only "high character" guys get to play for the 49ers. The team is built in the locker room, as we all know.
by BustaTheRippa on May 12, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
We're talking about groups of picks
Goldson is one of the best 2-4th round picks they’ve had from that 5 year span. If he has another poor season this year he’ll be gone, that would be a failed pick yes.
Or are we just expecting absolutely none of the 2nd-4th round picks the 49ers take to become solid starters and be with the team for longer than their rookie contract?
Do people just not watch other teams play and see that the good teams are stocked with value picks as starters? Have 49er fans accepted a 90% bust rate and a 10% mediocre rate from these rounds?
by whistlingmountain on May 12, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't agree that a late 4th round pick should be compared to a mid-2nd round pick for production
4th round you should expect a servicable back-up, and that’s what Goldson is, a great back-up safety. Unfortunately he’s starting, but as far as what I’d expect from the #127 pick, I think Goldson has already exceeded expections. 32 starts, 170+ tackles over two years, not bad. Not great, but not bad.
I like Smith's potential versatility
Like Goldson, Smith was a Corner/Safety hybrid. Coming out of the draft, many predicted that he may be the third best Corner in the draft IF HE WAS USED AS A PRESS AND SHORT ZONE CORNER. Smith converted to Safety and brings some corner coverage skills and is still developing his deep zone coverage skills (though he’s ahead of Mays).
Goldson was also a corner/safety hybrid. But he was far more of a safety and seems to have adopted an aggressive almost classic strong safety like approach to the position. He still has some issues and lapses in deep coverage at times. Last year he was battling a foot injury all year (plantar faciatis I think).
by allforfunnplay on May 12, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I had such high hopes for Reggie
but he continues to be unimpressive. he’ll take a half step forward when you expect a huge step forward, then he’ll take a step back for no apparent reason.
by whistlingmountain on May 12, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
side note
I find it kind of interesting that so many fans are willing to write off all of the 49ers mediocre 2nd/3rd/4th round picks from the past 5 years. So many excuses for them, but how many have become solid starters for the 49ers? That is the meat of where your starters should come from, 13 picks from 2006-2010 and what do they have to show for it?
Rotational defensive end McDonald
Inconsistent Starter Goldson
Fringe starter/nickel back Reggie Smith
Shouldn’t be starting Guard, Chilo Rachal
Players that are no longer with the team, Coffee, Wallace, Hill, Williams, Robinson, Cohen, Moore…
“But, as 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks we knew that the learning curve was going to be greater.”
is a cop out quote. the 49ers have been terrible at drafting anything of value from the value rounds, I don’t know why there is a belief that it will change with Mays.
by whistlingmountain on May 12, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
2nd - 4th round picks
By nature are projected starters with limitations. I’m sure we can cast stones at a lot of teams 2nd-4th round picks.
sd377 wants to ban me for unleashing the Kaepernick Supernova Gamma Ray
I'm not saying they should all be hits
but look at that group, 13 picks, they’ve produced 0 consistent NFL starters.
that is a core reason of why the 49ers have not been able to turn this 6-8 win corner.
by whistlingmountain on May 12, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Well they had a franchise reboot in 2004 so it was a least three years to get back to competitive level. The team hasn’t been to the playoffs the last two years mostly because they have to yet to get consistent QB play.
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the QB play is of course part of it, but their offense and defense have been bad in other ways
that have to do with weak links, blown coverages, missed blocking assignments..
bad coaching is a large part, and to be blunt, bad player development on an individual basis has been a large part as well.
I have massively large hopes that Harbaugh’s insane work ethic is similarly followed by his coaches and will rub off on the players. Could kill 2 birds with one stone.
by whistlingmountain on May 12, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
What round represent the "value rounds" to you?
2nd-6th?
2010: LB- NaVorro Bowman
2008: WR- Josh Morgan
2007: DE- Ray McDonald, S- Dashon Goldson
2006: LB- Parys Haralson, TE- Delanie Walker
I think that is pretty darn good!
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by nocal81(Vincent) on May 12, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
they're all good values
solid players. maybe above average.
but overall I’d expect at least one pro bowler in from the middle to late rounds in the last 6 years.
by allforfunnplay on May 12, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Probowl players at #127 pick or after since 2005
2005 – 4 2 QBs, DT and DE
2006 – 3 DB, S and DT
2007 – 2 a Kicker and a FB
2008 – none
2009 – 1 a WR
2010 – 1 a WR
In other words there have been 9 skills players taken at or after Goldon’s spot that have become pro bowl players. Expecting even one probowl player from rounds 4-7 is too much.
I agree that they shouldn't expect pro-bowlers from 5-7
but they should be getting more starters and better starters than they have.
Side note, Nicks was a pro bowler from 08 and there have been a few undrafted pro bowlers.
by whistlingmountain on May 12, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
There was an undrafted All-Pro last season
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 14, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
2005: C David Baas , RB Frank Gore
2004: DE Issac Isaac Sopoaga
They all can’t be Frank Gore. Again these guys fit the mold. Starters with limitations.
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oops
2004: CB Shawntae Spencer
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Going back 7 and 8 drafts for those guys
by whistlingmountain on May 12, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
2nd-3rd-4th are the value rounds
because you still have a decent shot at starters and long-term reserves
5th-6th-7th are project and lottery picks, anything you get out of those rounds is gravy.
The team has actually done ok in the late rounds, which is kind of the saving grace of the last 6 years.
I think it’s a little early to list Bowman as anything, which is why I left him off my earlier posts. He hasn’t proven anything and was pretty terrible last year.
Morgan is a middling WR who would not be starting for just about every other team in the league. McDonald ( whom I love ), is a better fit for a 4-3. Haralson is terrible, overpaid, and would not be starting for other 3-4 teams.
by whistlingmountain on May 12, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
nature vs. nurture question
i get the feeling that the Niner’s scouting staff and GM have convinced Jed York that the problem has been Nolan/Singletary’s inability to coach/develop these ATHLETES (and I stress that term over Players) into good quality NFL players. There’s probably something to that. But we’re all wondering if we should be questioning the Niner’s scouting staff and GM for picking these guys. It seems that Baalke, much like McCloughan likes to draft for athletic skills (size and speed) and less for actual football production. There seems to be a lot of emphasis placed on athletic potential in the draft selections. Exhibit A: Taylor Mays.
by allforfunnplay on May 12, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd actually alter that a little
I think Baalke likes to draft for personality.
Where as McCloughan wanted to draft for Athletic potential.
I think that was probably Baalke’s one big lesson from his years with McCloughan on what not to do ( and watch players like Coffee, Balmer, Hill, amongst others simply not have the work ethic needed to become NFL players ).
by whistlingmountain on May 12, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Correction: Sub par 2010 season
Mila "Sweet Lips" Kunis, as stated by Scarlett Johansson. I couldn't agree more. Reverse would be true too!!!!
by nocal81(Vincent) on May 12, 2011 12:47 PM PDT reply actions
I'm gonna bet on Mays like I did Vernon
He’s super athletic, works very hard but raw. He will take time to develop but will develop. Mays wasn’t even expected to see the field his rookie season but he did. I agree Singletary jerked him around with the other rookie Bowman when the ship started to sink.
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Me Too
Talent is talent, you either have it or you don’t. It is just up to Mays and the coaching staff to put it all together; and I believe they will
Mila "Sweet Lips" Kunis, as stated by Scarlett Johansson. I couldn't agree more. Reverse would be true too!!!!
by nocal81(Vincent) on May 12, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
He is a natural
If he works hard, Mays will be the safety of the 49ers dreams.
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