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Stanford Game-Video Breakdown: Offense vs. Virginia Tech (Orange Bowl)


Here we go again taking a look at the offensive plays Stanford had against Va Tech in the 2011 Orange Bowl.  This was Jim Harbaugh's as well as his staff's last game calling plays for the Cardinal offense, so if recency is at all important to predicting what Harbaugh and Co. might bring to the 49ers, this is as good as it gets.

I remember watching some of this game and realizing just how many formations there were and which plays Harbaugh ran from each.  I also remember the killer-instinct he showed in continuing to use shifts, motions, etc. later in the game, while a sizeable lead had already been established.

That sort of killer-instinct was lost on the 49ers in 2010, which saw a team often "protecting a lead" of ten points or less, often times early in the game.  Mike Singletary never valued offensive production much, instead preferring to let the defense attempt to hold the opponent to very few points...a sometimes unrealistic expectation.

But enough crying!  On to the Stanford Offense vs. Virginia Tech Defense video, after the jump!

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High level overview and thoughts:

Lots of 22 personnel (2 backs, 2 TE's) and a myriad of passing plays from this typical "run formation". 

I love how much onus there is on Luck to find an open man (not scripted plays, rather going through progressions, moving his feet, deciding to pass or run).  It's not typical of what the WCO has been in the past, with the ball getting out quickly, almost similar to a spread offense with the drop-back, plant, throw...no, Jim Harbaugh didn't limit himself or his all-star QB with a lot of predetermined plays that can also tend to have the "what now?" reaction when receivers aren't open.

Stanford just kept on running, even though every play wasn't a big-gain, there were a few gashing runs that paid dividends.  I like how Harbaugh was unwilling to give-up on the run.  Three downs inside the two yard-line and he calls three straight runs...resulting in a touchdown.  There was a huge play-action touchdown pass that resulted from the comittment to the run, too.

Wow, two touchdowns to the TE, no wait...THREE touchdowns to Fleener!  And the kid isn't even nearly as fast or athletic as Vernon Davis!  Ok, the guy is good but I'm just getting amped to see Davis and Delanie Walker get to shine in the two-TE sets that Harbaugh loved to use at Stanford...and the 49ers have been using for a few years now too.  This match has "made in heaven" on the tag.

Some specific plays to note:

First play of the game is three-TE formation (23 personnel) and Luck naked-bootlegs to his left, keeps his eyes down-field and then runs for a nice gain.  The 49ers have two athletic QB's in Alex Smith (isn't it a forgone conclusion he'll be back?!) and Colin Kaepernick and frankly we just haven't seen enough bootlegs and sprint-outs in the offense lately.

At 1:55 the offense lines up in 22 personnel, two-TE's to the left side (via motion) and not only do both TE's block, the FB blocks, AND the right guard pulls around and blocks...result = HOUSE!  Now they can line up and run that play as a fake handoff later in the game it should be money.

8:00 mark, 11 personnel, everyone is worrying about the WR's and the TE just slips up the field into the void between everyone else, the safety playing man-to-man was fooled on the shallow routes and allowed Fleener to run right by him down the sideline for the easy touchdown.  Love hitting the TE in a 3 WR formation. 

Once again I love Harbaugh's offense while at Stanford and I think he's got even better personnel to work with on the 49ers.  I think we WILL see a lot of what we see here on this video, featured in 2011 and beyond in San Francisco.

Until next time!

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Notice how Harbaugh and Roman run the ball.

They use different formations, they shift, they run to the outside AND inside.

In short, they are CREATIVE running the ball. Unlike the doofus ex-Bear who just wanted to run it up the gut with Moran Norris leading the way every play.

I have no problems with a run first-mentality, in fact, I actually prefer it, but you have to be creative doing it. Which it looks like Harbaugh and Roman are.

You're not a 49er unless you got a gold star from Trent Baalke. Only "high character" guys get to play for the 49ers. The team is built in the locker room, as we all know.

by BustaTheRippa on May 16, 2011 2:06 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't prefer it...

…because I think the evidence is strong that passing to set up the run is more effective. But I agree with everything else you say. If we’re going to have a run-first offense, let this be it.

by Bigmouth on May 16, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Depends.

If you have a Drew Brees, a Manning, or a Brady, you’re probably right.

Color me skeptical, but I highly doubt Kaepernick will ever be the same type of QB and passer that those guys are, so I would prefer a run first offense with some nice and easy play action passing off of it.

You're not a 49er unless you got a gold star from Trent Baalke. Only "high character" guys get to play for the 49ers. The team is built in the locker room, as we all know.

by BustaTheRippa on May 16, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree too

It’s “power” West Coast Offense. A different take on the greatest offense ever created, but like you said CREATIVE is the key word. Competent coaching staffs do that.

by axelfoley on May 16, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

But it's not really "West Coast"...

…if it’s run first. I feel like, if there’s anything that defines the West Coast philosophy, it’s that you pass (particularly horizontally) to set up the run.

What Harbaugh did at Stanford actually more closely resembles the offense that Don Coryell ran. Lots of power running and vertical strikes down the field.

Ironically, as you may know, Coryell’s was the original “West Coast” offense before that term was (mi)sapplied to Walsh’s system.

Now, of course, everyone associates that name with what Walsh did, which was very different from Coryell.

by Bigmouth on May 16, 2011 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

this

he coaches using west coast (Walsh) principles, but the offense doesn’t look or smell like Walsh’s. Watch the video…Luck doesn’t drop back and immediately let it fly. He finds an open man, improvises A LOT…it’s so NOT typical WCO quick passing.

The NFL/Players are dragging me down. Sad thing is: they know I'll always keep coming back.
I just Twitter'd that

by Tre9er on May 17, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is there really a "typical" any more?

As a concept is taken on by others, even those who are devoted and close followers, will add their own aspects. Seiffert’s WCO was not Walsh’s WCO. Even Holmgren’s version was not Walsh’s version. Is Brett Favre a perfect example of a WCO QB? Heck no I’d say. Reid runs a system rather close to Holmgren and there were similarities that could be noted between Holmgren, Reid and even Mooch but each had their own predilections.That’s part of the beauty (in my mind) of the West Coast Offense and what makes it truly West Coast and not “Eastern Ohio”. It is able to be moved in a warm west coast way not the cold snowy underworld of Ohio. :-) Coryell was a darn good coach and so was Walsh, and for a time even Weird Uncle Al added a bit to the game. I guess what I’m saying is let’s not focus on what worked. That was many many years ago. I loved what WORKED and I still love it. But what matters now is what WORKS.

/diatribe :-)

by ChesapeakeBay9er on May 17, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love these posts

They make me so excited about our new coaching staff. Can’t wait to see what our new offense looks like.

Thanks, Tre.

by madmatt on May 16, 2011 3:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Watching Luck run, I can really see...

…what intrigued Harbaugh about Kaepernick.

by Bigmouth on May 16, 2011 3:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah the offense looked good

Andrew Luck was the QB. Who do we have? A failed experiment and a 2nd round pick with upside that doesn’t even have the playbook yet. I think it’s more realistic to expect good things in 2012. But who am I to rain on the Harbaugh love parade? Watching that videio sure was nice to see an offense score points for once.

QUESTION: When is our QB going to answer questions like "You only threw 4 TD's today. What's wrong with the offense?"
ANSWER: When Andrew Luck ditches the draft and we sign him as an undrafted free agent!!!

by crumpedup15 on May 16, 2011 9:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Josh Johnson

Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
Im not competitive I just addicted to winning.

by manraj7 on May 16, 2011 9:15 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Why?

Explain to me and please take all the time to go thru it to explain to me why you (or anyone else) feels that Joshy would be a better QB than Alex (or for that matter Kaep) in JH’s system? Joshy has had a chance for 4 yrs about the same time as Kolb has and neither of them have shown me enough to warrant what would be given for them. I don’t dislike Josh at all. But I don’t see the value in taking him on at this point.

by ChesapeakeBay9er on May 17, 2011 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love these posts dude! Keep it up.

These have been the only posts I’ve really enjoyed during the lockout. Thank you

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on May 17, 2011 8:32 AM PDT reply actions  

Harbaugh's playbook resembles McCarthy's

If only we can play like GB

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on May 17, 2011 8:41 AM PDT reply actions  

I have to admit...

…I was a little mystified by this comparison when you first drew it. After all, isn’t McCarthy supposed to be a WCO guru?

BUT I spent some time reading up on Green Bay’s offense and can definitely see what you are saying. Particularly in the last few years, it seems like McCarthy has gotten away from his West Coast roots and embraced more downfield passing and play action, particularly with boot legs like we saw Luck do a lot last year under Harbaugh. McCarthy has also been extremely creative in his use of different formations.

by Bigmouth on May 17, 2011 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

green bay has done a lot of running the ball before Grant got hurt especially

and it’s integral to their offense. They like TE’s, FB’s, they smash it out in the bitter NFC North…so I can see it.

Thing is, these guys have taken the principles, the basics, and then over time they’ve tweaked it to fit their personnel. There’s no real reason you can’t mix and match some WCO, some Coryell, some whatever (just not Jimmy Raye-Gun, please Lord)

The NFL/Players are dragging me down. Sad thing is: they know I'll always keep coming back.
I just Twitter'd that

by Tre9er on May 17, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

We'll have the 2011-Version of WCO

and that will be fine with me. I was totally fascinated by the play calling early on that was used to determine what plays would be called later in the game. How totally refreshing and a renewal of faith THAT was. Imagination on offense – shifts, formation changes, 2 and 3 tight ends, on and on. Wow!. What The Heck, I’ll go on record now and say it – Yes, I would dearly LOVE to see us in the playoffs ‘cause we deserve it and have not been since forever – but, if we just go out and play imaginative and interesting football game after game and DO NOT win it all, I’ll be pleased and welcome the change after what we have endured. Decent football again – who woulda thunk it???

by ninernutt on May 17, 2011 11:43 AM PDT reply actions  

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