49ers 2011 NFL Draft: Why such a seemingly "meh" class?
I count myself among those who had puzzled looks on my face at various times following 49ers draft selections this past weekend. Chris Culliver in the third round?? Who is Colin Jones for heaven's sake?!? Why didn't we take Powe (NT)? Couldn't we find a guy who actually played FB rather than a DE who we plan to convert?!?
Now a few days removed, I've had time to slow down a bit and let the high emotions of the draft leave my body. Trent Baalke and Jim Harbaugh were visibly excited about this draft-haul. They must have seen something in these players they really liked...so what was it?
Did Ed Donatell see something in Culliver, Jones, etc. that he's identified in the past...something that makes a great defensive back? Was there some inside info on some of the other more well-known prospects that made the 49ers shy away from guys that draftniks valued higher?
Maybe, but I think it might have been more simple than that. Let's dive-in, after the jump.
Today I was looking around the internet for videos, interviews, etc. of the new draft prospects...trying to get amped about the new additions the 49ers have at their disposal going forward. Ronald Johnson was a guy I liked from what I could find, but then some started to mention how he was a very good route runner, slot receiver, etc. This caused some talk about which WR's would make the roster in 2011.
After thinking about that and fleshing it out with a few others, it seemed clear that Ted Ginn could likely be the weakest WR in the group in 2011. Ginn isn't very physical and isn't known for being reliable catching the football. These things are kind of paramount to the WCO and also, to a Harbaugh-coached team.
Two of the other players, Kyle Williams and Ronald Johnson ("RoJo") seemed like good propects for the slot, being smaller guys, running good routes, going across the middle, making tough catches, etc. The only thing I could think of that Ginn brought to the table was his return abilities...which are pretty good.
Then I started thinking about how I remembered hearing that Culliver did some return duties at South Carolina. RonJon also handled some kicks in his time at USC and both were pretty adept at it. Hmmm, maybe this was a factor in the selctions, to a degree?
Other guys we picked were known for being "mean and nasty" or were even referred to by Harbaugh as someone he'd like to see "flying down the field with his speed and mentality" (Colin Jones, paraphrased). Overall the class was made up of high-character guys who love to play football and have high upside.
Read: Special teams players, good locker-room guys, guys who will help set the tone and get coaches' vision across.
Now, a few of these guys are also great football players who could see the field right away on offense or defense too. But I think Harbaugh sees a pretty good roster right now and knew he needed to just inject a little bit of "his type of guys" into the mix, maybe clean out some more of the Kentwan Balmer and Michael Lewis'es of the world.
Lord knows our special teams weren't all that "special" in 2010 (something Ninjames could go on and on about...and usually does)...we got rid of some key pieces from the previous year and look to potentially lose more this year. It happens every year, unfortunately, and so that's why you need to replace these guys.
Bottom line is just because a guy isn't the last pick of the draft, doesn't mean he has to be an immediate starter on either side of the ball. We had a lot of late-round picks in this draft and those role-players help win and lose games too. Harbaugh went out and got some quality attitudes, work ethics, etc. who will help him and his coaches build the team his way.
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Ronald Johnson
It’s RoJo, not RonJon.
As a very big USC fan, I am thrilled that we got him. He is a hard worker, has good hands, is quick (but does lack downfield speed), and will be great as a 3rd WR and a PR/KR type guy. He might make Ginn expendable.
I was calling him RoJo today and a Trojan fan told me it was RonJon...what the heck is it!?!?
Alin Kaepersmith FTW!
I just Twitter'd that
you're right
just had to search around and found a few articles calling him RoJo…not sure where this other dude came up with RonJon…maybe that was what this dude called him…idk
Alin Kaepersmith FTW!
I just Twitter'd that
Last year ...
… I posted a comment about which 49ers players had names that best fitted the first-syllable-of-first-name-plus-first-syllable-of-last-name game. RonJon is definitely one of those.
He was a WR/CB in HS, so maybe ….
http://usc.scout.com/a.z?s=15&p=8&c=1&nid=2392432
"Great speed and breaks on the ball exceptionally well. Runs like a deer, natural instincts and a ball hawk. Can turn his hips and change direction without losing a step. A step above the competition. Jumps routes extremely well. Hard to find weaknesses in his game. Super all-around athlete."
Biography: Ronald Johnson is arguably the top prospect in the Wolverine State. Johnson will be a four-year varsity starter in 2006. He has started on both sides of the football since his sophomore year. Johnson broke the school record with 10 interceptions as a sophomore. Johnson tore his ACL during his junior year but he should be back to 100% for his senior season.
Coach’s Comments – “I don’t know what the rest of the country has to offer but it’s hard to imagine a better all-around athlete in the country.” — Tony Aneasse
Johnson – “I’m a hard worker. I get up at four o’clock in the morning to work out and I don’t leave the school until it gets dark. I feel I have good hands and the speed to be a go-to-guy at all times.”
This is a great link w/ info and interviews of all the 49ers picks...
http://blog.49ers.com/2011/05/02/meet-the-rookies-2011-edition/
"The principle is competing against yourself. It's about self improvement, about being better than you were the day before." ~Steve Young #8
I guess if they get rid of Ginn
there will be NO players with downfield speed, except maybe VD, and you really don’t want your TE to be your fastest receiver lol
Except that....
VD is faster than a LOT of receivers to begin with.
That downfield speed
did nothing to help us last year.
Ginn is very good return specialist, nothing more.
Harbaugh can turn any QB into a great one. He's a QB guru, even if he's only been a head coach at the college ranks.
by BustaTheRippa on May 2, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
They did
He has some of the worst hands you’ll ever see, a wuss after the catch, and rounds his routes.
He’s a track star, not a football player.
Harbaugh can turn any QB into a great one. He's a QB guru, even if he's only been a head coach at the college ranks.
by BustaTheRippa on May 2, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
His hands aren't the greatest, except for the deep ball
Which i saw maybe TWICE last year, one pass was over thrown, and the other was a TD against the Cards…the wonderful minds behind play calling last year decided Morgan and Crabs were faster and better for the deep ball over Ginn
by sanfranfanmdk on May 2, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
everyone keeps saying that Ginn is gone now
I dont get why. How quickly did we forget about 2 years ago when we basically lost the Texans game due to a punt return fumble or the eagles game last year when Ginn was hurt. It can change alot if you dont have a guy back there that will catch it EVERY time. And break a big one every once in a while.. We need to keep him around
maybe it was the saints game
not the eagles.. i might have my games mixed up.. still though it lost us the game
Well 2 years ago it was the Texans game (well that was one of the many)
and last year, Ginn missed the Saints game, and Adams fumbled a punt that gave the Saints a free 3 pts, and guess how many the Niners lost by?
by sanfranfanmdk on May 2, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Agree
I don’t think Ginn is gone. He’s valuable on Special Teams and I’m sure Harbaugh will find ways to use him on offense that Sing and his staff neglected or never even contemplated.
It’s like what Fangio says about watching film—sometimes it’s hard for coaches to know exactly what they have in players until they get them on the field and coach them up. Ginn will get his chance to demonstrate value and make the roster just like everyone else.
"The principle is competing against yourself. It's about self improvement, about being better than you were the day before." ~Steve Young #8
by Young_To_Rice on May 2, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Agree
As I said he’s a fantastic return specialist and is very valuable in that regard.
But expecting anything from him in the receiving department will leave you disappointed.
Harbaugh can turn any QB into a great one. He's a QB guru, even if he's only been a head coach at the college ranks.
by BustaTheRippa on May 2, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
can anyone explain why?
He has big soft hands, long arms, quick reflexes, athletic. But when that ball is coming towards him he transforms into a stone
by mcwagner on May 2, 2011 3:15 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Probably nerves. Tight sphincter syndrome.
"The principle is competing against yourself. It's about self improvement, about being better than you were the day before." ~Steve Young #8
by Young_To_Rice on May 2, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he's gone
because the theme of this draft was versatility.
Guys who can play a position on the field and contribute on special teams.
If that is the mentality of Harbaugh and his staff, I don’t see much room for a kick return specialist who eats up a roster spot at wide receiver.
I’m not sure I entirely like the image of high emotions leaving Tre9er’s body.
by LondonNiner on May 2, 2011 2:37 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Almost as bad as low low emotions leaving his body.
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on May 2, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
except faster and more athletic
Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
Im not competitive I just addicted to winning.
Thought you were talking about current Battle
Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
Im not competitive I just addicted to winning.
and I think Battle has dropped more punts than RoJo has caught
which is an impressive feat for Battle when one takes into account that RoJo is the 5th all time return leader for USC
I was going to say that he reminds me of NYG's Steve Smith with better athleticism
Hands and route running not quite as good as Smith’s.
Kaepernick may have some growing to do as a passer, but you don't get to 10,000 yards passing in college without being able to read a defense.
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Culliver, Jones, smith
culliver: Good size. Naturally athletic and light on his feet and fluid movement skills. Outstanding straight-line and long speed. Excellent leaping ability — posted a 38½-inch vertical leap at the Combine. Good hands (converted receiver). Versatile — can play safety or corner and is elusive as a kickoff returner. 4.36 40 time
jones:Colin Jones has big hitting ability, quickness and range that will help him handle coverage duties deep in the zone or come up and support against the run. He is well-proportioned with very good size and outstanding straight-line speed. Jones can accelerate quickly and close fast. His excep¬tional work ethic as well as solid tackling ability will help him contribute in the defensive backfield and on special teams. 4.34 40 time and 37" vertical
smith:Excellent arm and body length. Terrific athlete. Shows outstanding initial quickness at the snap, almost violent and plays faster than he times. Consistently creates penetration and is very disruptive. Very agile and wins one-on-one matchups with ease. Can outquick defenders from the inside and shows explosive body power. Very good balance and coordination. Has a quick arm-over move to create leverage, knocks defenders off balance with slaps and is difficult to block. Flashes playmaking ability (see Oklahoma). Plays strong for possessing such a rangy frame and can set the edge much better than would be expected looking at his linear frame.
to me it’s a mix of several things. one speed, all 3 have good speed which will help generate more sacks and QB pressure. it will help the DB’s stay with quicker WR’s and close gaps faster when he pass rush, etc…i do think Ed Donatell sees something he likes in both players. culliver also has the ability to help cause more turnovers with his catching ability. i cant wait until the season gets under way so we can see what these new kids can do.
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by remembering9ergods on May 2, 2011 3:44 PM PDT reply actions
The Packers showed a championship team needs all the members of the Secondary to contribute, not just the starters.
They’ll get on the field in Nickel and Dime type situations and have a chance to make plays.
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by Young_To_Rice on May 2, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
So we swap one set of development players for another.
I’ve said earlier that the main benefit of these new guys is their enthusiasm. The FO wants to put in a new “spirit” that is very different from the downbeat, feel guilty about everying, Singletary approach.
By the end of Round 1, the Niners were done with collecting Smiths. They then moved on to collecting Colin’s. Looking into the future through the Colinoscope, I see the Niners collecting at least two more Colins via FA and 2012 draft.
A long, slow summer ahead unless the owners and players come to their senses.
Ron Johnson comes out of a very strong USC program
that had plenty of playmakers. He was generally the guy they went to. Everyone knew he was targeted but the guy had a knack for getting open. I have a feeling they are going to find this kid pushing everyone for a job. He is faster than Crabtree and doesnt mind being the focal point of the attack. This is Crabs year to show up or step aside. So far we dont have a 1000 yd. reciever so if anyone wants the job its there for the taking.
Its going to be hard for anyone to get 1000 yards with all of the targets on this team
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
Will it be all the targets or the person shooting the gun?
I think it will be more due to our QB or lack thereof than all of our targets.
by hudd07 on May 2, 2011 10:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
We'll see, but I think Smith is capable of a 4000 yard season
but I just can’t see anyone getting 1000 of those.
900 for VD
800 for Crabs
600 for Morgan
600 for Gore and then 1100 left to split up between Walker, Dixon, Hunter, FB?, 3rd WR
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
Kilgore and Person
didn’t like them at first. seemed like UDFA types.
but i like that baalke looks for versatile types that can come in and play any spot on the line. the ideal back up OL. Person’s intriguing….can pull and get out into space well.
Anyone else think Culiver was a panic pick?
I absolutely think we had Moffitt in mind at 76 and he went 75 right before us. So we panicked and grabbed Culliver when we realized we couldn’t trade back.
by hudd07 on May 2, 2011 10:34 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I thought I remembered people saying everyone in the war room was celebrating when they turned in that pick for Culliver. If that’s the case, it wouldn’t seem like Culliver was a panic pick.
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by theghostofjasonellison on May 3, 2011 6:24 AM PDT up reply actions
No unless they wanted to trade down
like with the Aldon Smith pick
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
I really hope
This guy Aldon turns out to be special because I was one of the 9er fans out there scratching their heads after his name was read off. I REALLY wanted Amukamara after Petereson was off the board( Screw the Cardinals btw!)! Infact I think I would grade this draft a lot higher then I did if we had drafted Prince instead of Aldon and then went after an OLB in the third round instead of a random corner we traded up to get. This draft was a head scratcher to me. Over all disappointing imo…
by CardinalOfficial on May 2, 2011 11:49 PM PDT reply actions

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