My Draft Theory / FA Fantasy

by Since79 on May 2, 2011 3:45 PM PDT

Maybe the Niners draft after round 2 was all about finding great special teamers, because they are looking to free agency once it starts to pick up some big time starters.

Say YES! Say Amen, brother. Because in my fantasy world, they have a secret plan. They are going after a few very specific players to fill in gaps of immediate need rather than relying on a rookie in need of a year's seasoning.

Assuming my fantasy comes true, here's who I would like to see us get / or re-sign:

Asomugha -- I know, I know. Biding war. . . But it would transform the D on the spot.

QB: Donovan McNabb, I know, I know. Harbuagh loves Alex Smith. But I don't. I'm sick of him losing games for us and I want a change that's an actual upgrade from Smith until Kaep is ready.

Or:

Dennis Dixon -- I know, I know. He would only want to be here if we considered him the QBOTF. Me too. But he might be! And he might be better than Kaep for a number of years. Let's say we sign him and he's great! Is that such a bad thing?

I wonder if we could snare Green Bay's John Kuhn in FA as a FB!

Re-sign:
Franklin
Bass
Spikes

Lawson, I think yes, for the right price.

Same with Clemons, only for the right price.

Then we either re-sign Goldson or try to sign Charlie Peprah from Green Bay. He's solid as a safety.

And last but not least, if we need a kicker, there's the possibility David Akers will be available. Also Prater from Denver.

This would max us out, if there's a cap, but with the draftees from round 3-7 being great special teamers (although I also like Ronald Johnson as a WR) they will not cost us a heck of a lot to sign. So why not spend the rest on great free agents and re-signing solid starters so we don't have to re-invent the wheel?

I know great teams build through the draft, but there have been plenty of free agents that have transformed teams. Reggie White was one! Bill Walsh pleaded with him to become a Niner, I remember. And more recently, Julius Peppers, Drew Brees, I mean, there are dozens of examples. So why not have both great drafts and great free agent signings?

If we do this, might we not be a playoff team by the end of the year, and a team getting better every game? Might we not be the Oklahoma Thunder, or the Memphis Grizzlies of the NFL?

Okay, who would you want to sign that is a free agent who is also most likely not going to re-sign with their team? (I left guys like that off the list.) Make your fantasy "realistic" please!

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.

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I like the Nnamdi as a potential free agent pick up but I would not be upset to see Lawson, Goldson leave, keep Baas and Spikes for right price. Also trade 2012 2nd round pick for Palmer if that becomes a possibility.

Joe and Steve were under the same system for years... don't expect ___?__ to be super so soon. Alex Smith is no longer expected to do much for this team in the future... on to the next one!!

by bayboy on May 2, 2011 5:53 PM PDT reply actions

Lawson leaving will hurt the defense.

And Dashon will have a good year next year, with any team.

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by mikeinsp on May 2, 2011 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions

reggie smith and taylor mays sounds better than goldson

i hope lawson stays

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on May 3, 2011 12:41 AM PDT up reply actions

I like Dashon.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that don't work." - Thomas Edison

"I may be an idiot, but one thing I'm not sir, is an idiot." - Peter Griffin

by mikeinsp on May 3, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions

I'd take Palmer for a 2.

I think Manny played well last year.

by Since79 on May 3, 2011 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions

I just do not see who can play better than lawson. no player on the team can except for the rookie but you need two olb.
if lawson can be resigned and has a good year that would open up next years draft for d-line and cb as the only needs on the niners

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on May 3, 2011 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions

Luck 2012

49ers por vida!!!!!!!!!!!!

by 49erSalvatrucha on May 2, 2011 6:42 PM PDT reply actions

kaepernick pro bowler rookie year!!!!!!

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on May 3, 2011 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions

Well, okay!

by Since79 on May 3, 2011 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions

Keep Lawson

And scheme better for him.

Resign Franklin (since we didn’t draft a replacement).

The one FA I want to sell the farm for is Asomugha. Ditch Clements unless he takes a big paycut. I would like to snag Cromartie (Free agent, isn’t he?), as I think he’ll be cheaper than Joseph. I don’t feel like they addressed the secondary enough in the draft.

I think Aldon Smith will pan out, and I think given half a chance to actually go after the QB, Lawson will be awesome. If we can swing Asomugha we will be a dangerous team. If we can get him and a skilled number two man we will be near unstoppable on D.

Who are the D-Linemen available in FA? I see a need at NT and RE.

And I wouldn’t cry about 1 more WR for cheap.

Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.

by Arkie49er on May 3, 2011 12:32 PM PDT reply actions

There isn't much available on the D-Line

Franklin is pretty much “it” at NT for the league since the Fins re-signed Paul Soliai. As far as the ends go the best available might be Cullen Jenkins if GB hasn’t re-signed him yet. But he’s 30 years old and we seem to be building for the future.

Our depth chart is getting pretty crowded at WR. Crabs, Morgan, Williams, Ziegler, Ginn, and Johnson. If we toss Ginn then maybe we have room for another, but a cheap one — we might as well look at Lockette as an UDFA.

No thanks on Cromartie. He gets burned way too much trying to get on the highlight reel.

by Ougadas on May 4, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions

Once again

McNabb is terrible, a product of Andy Reid’s scheme and isn’t an upgrade over Alex.

Harbaugh can turn any QB into a great one. He's a QB guru, even if he's only been a head coach at the college ranks.

by BustaTheRippa on May 4, 2011 11:32 AM PDT reply actions

Ah, I trust my eyes on that one

McNabb can make so many NFL throws that Smith is incapable of. His arm his stronger. His decisions are quicker. I’d take him in a heartbeat over Smith while training Kaep for the future.

by Since79 on May 4, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions

These are the same eye's , proclaiming Nate Davis and Troy Smith Qb gods ...

… while their’s probably a slim chance either of them will ever be in the NFL again …!!

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!

by Edggy on May 4, 2011 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions

Actually

What I said, for the record, Eggy, is that:

1. They should have played Davis for a few quarters in a few meaningless games at the end of 2009 to see if he had anything at all to offer, rather than pump up Alex Smith’s ego and stats by playing him all for quarters against the two worst teams in football that year. Especially since the Lions and Rams played their scrubs in the last half. Instead, Single-moron thought Alex Smith had finally figured out how to be a mediocre quarterback and anointed him the starter and captain of next year’s team.

2. Troy Smith won a game for us in his first start in a way Alex Smith never had. I love the Niners and fantasized that he was the guy we were looking for to replace that piece of garbage that has ruined so many seasons and lost so many games with bad decisions, bad throws, and untimely interceptions. Troy Smith was a Heisman winner and a charismatic person — another thing lacking from the piece of garbage you like so much. And what I said in my posts was that I thought, since next year we had to try to at least have a decent QB Left on our roster, that we should sign him early to a modest contract rather than wait. Because, worst case, we’d have him signed as a back-up instead of Carr. Best case he’d get better and better and we would have already signed him rather than suddenly being held hostage to a free agent QB that may or may not continue to grow.

As far as your ability to actually hear what other people are saying, and not just stupidly criticize than, all I can say is, Oh Boy! Whatever that means.

Start using facts a bit more, and pointless sarcasm and criticism a bit less and maybe some day I’ll take you seriously.

by Since79 on May 5, 2011 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions

Didn't you also want to sign Vince Young?

Harbaugh can turn any QB into a great one. He's a QB guru, even if he's only been a head coach at the college ranks.

by BustaTheRippa on May 5, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions

YES!

If he was available for not a lot, I think for a year or two he would be 1000% better than trying to re-make Alex Smith into Jim Harbaugh’s image. Young might even turn his life around with a mentor like Harbuagh. Look at Mike Vick. You never know. And if he really can’t learn, or has a bad attitude, then we let him go early on in he process. Nothing lost but some time.

Anyone as deparate for a QB as the Niners are can’t afford to dismiss a guy with that much raw talent and that many wins in the NFL. I know you think he’s a nut case, and he might be. But he might not be. Again, Mike Vick was supposed to be a total bass ass and amazingly dumb. Couldn’t learn. Well the next thing you know everyone’s saying he’s MVP of the league.

You know, the thing about you guys is you try to put people down or dismiss their ideas out of hand, even though their reasoning is sound. I don’t care if you agree or not. If youre reasons for disagreeing are sound, good for you, that’s great. We’ll hopefully all learn something in the debate betwen us. That’s what this site is all about.

But to just sit around and make snide remarks about someone’s ideas, especially if they are decently well-thought-out, doesn’t do anyone any good. It just prevents new ideas from being heard, and pushes everyone to go with the herd mentality that prevails around here, and it makes you guys look like incredible jerks. I don’t understand why you bother. I guess you have nothing better to do.

by Since79 on May 5, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions

Who is the "you guys" you kept referring to?

It seems like you’re generalizing BustaTheRippa based on your perception of the community at large.

We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.

by these3words on May 5, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions

No

Most of the Niners community post-ers are awesome, and extremely knowledgeable. And I learn a lot by reading, and participating. But there are a small group of jerks that hang around. I’m not going to mention names. But they are constantly making stupid remarks, and, far worse than that, putting other post-ers down if they don’t think the exact same thing that they do.

Better if we leave this topic alone. Maybe they’ll get the message and stop making mean-spirited comments to well-meaning Niner fans.

We ARE all rooting for the same team, right? We all want the Niners to win ASAP, right? So let’s agree to disagree when we do. Speak with as much knowledge and information as possible. Offer up as much respect for each other as possible, especially when we have differing ideas, and keep these posts informative rather than personal.

by Since79 on May 5, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions

Jamarcus is a FA

Might want to look at signing him as well.

Harbaugh can turn any QB into a great one. He's a QB guru, even if he's only been a head coach at the college ranks.

by BustaTheRippa on May 5, 2011 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions

That's on you bro , your constant transatory comment's on Alex leave's you open for approach ..

… if you just gravitated toward’s said player , without the condesending , there may not be criticism generated your way , but as long as you bash a fine a classy dedicated team mate like Alex, leaves you as a matter of coarse , there’s really no need to be so inconsequential about another human being …!!

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!

by Edggy on May 5, 2011 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions

This is my point

I’m allowed to bash a player as a fan as much as you’re allowed to fantasize that he’ll suddenly be a decent player and stop losing us games. But I’m not pointing the criticism towards you, or putting you down. Kaep is our obvious QBOTF and not Alex Smith. That’s my strong opinion. But I’m not putting that in your face personally and telling you, ah ha, Harbaugh thinks he’s a temporary starter until Kaep is ready. I told you. Blah Blah. Because really who the hell knows. I could be totally wrong. So could you. I’m just saying rather than trying to bring up idiotic comments about me personally and what I’ve said before, putting it in such a bad light that I have to clarify and justify what I said and why, we can just have a fun time disagreeing, and then let the games begin. And we’ll see. Your “Oh Boy’s” are really a put down of others most of the time. And I don’t get why you need to do that or try to make it sound like I don’t know what I’m talking about or don’t have a right to my opinions, especially if they’re based on logical thinking.

It’s not just you I’m addressing Eddgy, but really, you’d be better off not being so offensvie and personal in your comments to other posters. Like I said, the players are up for grabs. They’re paid millions of dollars to put up with this stuff. So if someone says Ginn sucks or Norris has to go or Alex Smith can’t throw to the back dorr of a barn, then that’s fair game. But getting personal with the post-ers who ultimately have the same goal as you is not something that encourages debate or responses or good information flow. That’s all I’m saying.

And if you want to try to get it right from now on and apologize then we can get on to more important things. Like which FAs to sign. Cause we’re going to have to sign a few or were going to suck this year.

by Since79 on May 5, 2011 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions

Bro , i'm not going to get into this with you , don't have the time nor do i care ...

… i come here cause of my passion for the game , and a getaway from the destruction i see on a daily bases , known as people’s live’s , if O boy is condesending to you , then your a bit to sensitive IMO , check my history on this site and you’ll see few if any personal attack’s ..!!

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!

by Edggy on May 5, 2011 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions

You see how McNabb did without Reid?

He failed miserably with Shanahan and got benched for Rex freaking’ Grossman. Dude is an overweight crybaby that can’t do jack without the wide open passing lanes Reid created for him.

Harbaugh can turn any QB into a great one. He's a QB guru, even if he's only been a head coach at the college ranks.

by BustaTheRippa on May 4, 2011 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions

Bout the same

As all the other Iggles quarterbacks do once they leave Philly’s pass happy attack.

Horrible.

by Ougadas on May 5, 2011 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions

McNabb

That fat crybaby can make throws in his sleep that Alex Smith can only dream of in his sleep. If Reid created an offense for him to take advantage of (based on the WCO, BTW) then Harbuagh could do the same thing for him here. And the odds of him doing a better job in Harbaugh’s system vs Smith with his limited abilities is very high.

I’m not saying McNabb is great anymore, I’m saying for a stop gap between now and the Kaep era he’d be a better choice, a better teacher for Kaep, and possibly get us deep into the playoffs. With Smith, we have no shot, again. All he knows how to do is shoot himself in the foot. As opposed to Plaxico Burress who shot himself in the . . .well, ya know, metaphorically, it’s more or less the same thing. But of them end up losers and costing their team.

by Since79 on May 5, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions

Plaxico Burress

Gets out June 6 – why don’t we sign him?

by reedkrase on May 5, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions

Vince Young to Burress

TOUCH DOWN . . . .NINERS!

Eeek!

by Since79 on May 5, 2011 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions

Shanahan runs a more true WCO than Reid

And he FAILED. Got benched for REX GROSSMAN.

Shall we bring Rodney Peete and Jeff Blake out of retirement as well?

Harbaugh can turn any QB into a great one. He's a QB guru, even if he's only been a head coach at the college ranks.

by BustaTheRippa on May 5, 2011 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions

Montana

He’s better now than Smith will ever be. He’s thrive in the Harbuagh system. Or, if we can’t get him, Steve Young. Bring back Lott — safety pos solved, and Tom Rahtman at FB. Voila! Super Bowl, here we come.

by Since79 on May 5, 2011 10:11 PM PDT reply actions