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Moran Norris Ain't Gonna Cut It: Why Nate Byham Hurts The 49ers Offense

All things clear from the get-go: Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman's variation of the west coast offense is going to go through Frank Gore and anybody else taking handoffs from whichever quarterback happens to be under center. There will be many WCO-esque staples, especially when it comes to the passing game, of course. Receivers Michael Crabtree and Josh Morgan will count on the slant routes and bubble screens, while Ronald Johnson, Ted Ginn and Kyle Williams will battle for snaps out of the slot, where they will hope to punish defenses with route running and finesse.

Forgive me, I need to take a moment and have a hearty laugh in regards to Ted Ginn punishing anybody for his route running. Just one moment is all I need.

Moving on, the offense will very much function as a power running attack. Frank Gore, despite questionable durability, is game to the task at hand. Kendall Hunter should be a great supplemental runner to Frank, and I expect him to do good things from the get-go. Anthony Dixon remains the most entertaining 49er on Twitter, but that's all I can say about him at this point. I hope he sticks around and can play at a high level. The 49ers have a couple capable runners to move the ball down the field, to put it simply. Jump for more

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As such, the 49ers depend on Moran Norris as the lead-blocker. Norris is ... how you say, not very good at that kind of thing anymore. As it stands, he's actually not very good at any kind of thing anymore. If this were 2006, I would be totally alright with that. Norris of that time could get the job done. And the Norris of now does do some things to a passable degree, but he misses an awful lot of blocks at this stage in his career. A lot of them. 

The 49ers recognized that and made moves to improve the blocking elsewhere, with high draft picks spent on offensive linemen Anthony Davis and Mike Iupati, and that helped things along. Iupati mauled people in 2010, while Davis did sort of come into his own as the season went on. But that wasn't enough. There were still missed blocks from the fullback position, and there were numerous occasions where we could have had an open lane for Gore or Brian Westbrook, and the block was either missed or executed poorly.

So the 49ers made even more changes to make up for the lack of run blocking, by drafting Nate Byham in the sixth round. A lot of teams have blocking tight ends, and they're generally a good thing to have around. Byham is versatile and loves contact, he gets in there and makes contact in every sense of the word. He can play from a fullback or a tight end position and he was pretty good in run blocking last season. Drafting Byham would have been a great move for a lot of teams.

Unfortunately, most blocking tight ends are backup tight ends - that is - they're second string. On the 49ers, Byham is a third stringer, because they absolutely can't afford to be without Delanie Walker, the second stringer. Without top wide receivers, having a tight end like Walker, who could start on another football team, is key. Walker is essentially another receiver and he is something defenses have to plan for accordingly. Rather, Walker is somebody that defenses are supposed to have to plan for accordingly. Under Jimmy Raye, I don't believe any facet of the offense was used adequately, Walker included. They have a guy who is a mismatch for any defense and they hardly used him.

Worse than that, they actually hurt themselves with the way they used him. Instead of playing him like a second string tight end, they pulled him for a good portion of the running plays to bring in Byham. Well, that didn't work out so well, because teams already figured that they were going to run, for one, and for two, it just confirmed it ... they were going to run. When Byham was out there, you had to key in on Gore even more than you already were. If you did that, you stopped the 49ers offense.

Nate Byham seeing the field is not a bad thing if he's used correctly, like any third string tight end would when he has decent skills to contribute. The point is that the 49ers under Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman absolutely need to gameplan and scheme around Delanie Walker, leaving him in on runs so the defense isn't keyed in on what's going to happen? How can they do that, though? They need a true fullback. Moran Norris just isn't going to cut it at this point, and I'm sure a lot of us feel good about Bruce Miller, but let's be realistic right now: if we can get somebody better, shouldn't we pursue them?

Le'Ron McClain is obviously my biggest free agent target at the moment, and he would fit in great here. If not him, there are other options, though I doubt somebody like Vonta Leach is attainable at this point. There's guys like John Kuhn, Mike Tolbert, Ahmard Hall ... there's a lot of names out there, with varying degrees of availability. As it stands right now, it's an area that definitely needs improvement if any kind of west coast-style offense is feasible. Byham can't go out there for every run, and Walker can't come off the field for every run. Walker is an asset that absolutely needs to be utilized.

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What about byham and anthony davis sharing FB duties

by Andrew9erfan on Jun 15, 2011 8:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Anthony Davis, or Anthony Dixon????

After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.

by OldJock on Jun 15, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Um yeah, fail by me…

by Andrew9erfan on Jun 16, 2011 5:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Easy mistake to make, they're both Anthony D, and they're both on the offensive side of the ball

We’ve got a lot of Smiths, two guys named Alex, two named Nate, two Curtis… I frequently get confused on names (especially at my age). I am disciple of ancient Chinese philosopher, Confused-us…

After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.

by OldJock on Jun 16, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree.

It was simple to see all last year. Of course what Sing wanted Sing was gonna get so Byham got a good amount of PT. I actually think he is probably too good to be our 3 TE and it will be hard to keep him as such. I like the idea of packaging him with maybe Clements (If we happen to sign a No.1 CB) and sending him off somewhere for a nice FB. Is Owen Schmitt a FA ? He did a good Job for Philly last season didn’t he? IDK what’s with the Bruce Miller thing let him play at a LB spot please this dude has a nose for the QB. Anyway he will most likely end up like Brit Miller not on our roster if he is moved to FB. I thought Brit was coming a long nicely at FB and then we just say bye bye. Projects are only as good as the time you spend on them, so if we are intent on turning this guy into a FB please don’t cut him after just 1 year 49ers brass!! A single year to learn a new position which by the way is on the opposite side of the ball from where your used to playing. It’s not fair to expect miracles out of a guy like that.

by MikeDv on Jun 15, 2011 8:28 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I can't stand Dixon on twitter

Wrting every two minutes about meaningless things.
I unfollowed him this morning.

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by zemd on Jun 15, 2011 8:31 AM PDT reply actions  

The 49ers did not capitalize on their depth in 2010 at any position

It seemed part of the problem was the offense had to have Crabs, VD and Gore in for every play. Would be nice this year to see multiple plays with 3RB sets, 3 TE sets and 4 WR sets where the ball gets spred around. I think all three would do better with less time on the field.

by reedkrase on Jun 15, 2011 8:41 AM PDT reply actions  

Vernon Davis

One thing you didn’t mention is how Vernon Davis factors into all this given his superior blocking skills. If you can still run to his side while keeping Walker in on the other side, wouldn’t that keep defenses sufficiently on their toes?

by David Fucillo on Jun 15, 2011 8:43 AM PDT reply actions  

he's talking about a lead blocker though

Unless Byham lines up in the FB position (I-formation, pro), as a FB, then you’re taking a TE off the field to motion him in there. There’s always gonna be times you need to run a lead play, goal-line/short yardage, etc…so you have to have a true capable FB

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by Tre9er on Jun 15, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

and I think Byham is too tall to be a hammer from running start

he’s used to in-line blocking, popping up and getting leverage, like a Tackle would. That’s why they motion him in, cause then he’s only a yard or two off the LOS and can get a quick hit

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by Tre9er on Jun 15, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, basically what Tre said. Davis’ role is a given and doesn’t clue the defense in on anything whatsoever. Removing Davis here and there and leaving in Walker could certainly keep defenses guessing, though.

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by James Brady on Jun 15, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think people overvalue Delanie Walker

Based purely on stats, he’s ranked 32nd amongst TEs, which would mean something important, until it’s also taken into consideration that some teams don’t use TEs as receivers. Based on this, I can’t help but conclude he’s not a starting quality TE, maybe a very good backup, but not a starter, and anybody saying so is simply blinded by optimism; even if you were to double Walker’s receptions and stats, he’d still be outside the top 15, behind some TEs who (I think) aren’t even primary receivers for their teams.

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by HaikenEdge on Jun 15, 2011 8:47 AM PDT reply actions  

To not take stats into consideration,

He was also on a team that had poor quarterback play and even worse, switched quarterbacks back and forth. Being the 32 TE with only 32 teams and yours based on the run primarily could show that he is able to start for another team. You can see that he has the ability to get open, use his body for seperation, and has fairly decent hands. I would say his concentration level needs to get better, which typically does with experience.
I agree that we do overvalue Delanie. He is not the answer to our prayers, rather a very fine complement to argueably the best TE in the league. Delanie needs to seriously work on his blocking. I’m not expecting great things, just improvement.

by mcwagner on Jun 15, 2011 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

"He was also on a team that had poor quarterback play..."

And he was on a team that had some of the worst offensive system / game planning / play calling in NFL history…

After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.

by OldJock on Jun 15, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not me…I think he’s a scrub. The guy has some skills, but he’s a turnover machine. I cringe every time he gets near the ball.

by mrg80 on Jun 15, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't remember that guy

I think you are making him up.

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by manraj7 on Jun 15, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

most backup TE's are not very adept at receiving, and if they are, they suck as a true TE

I think Walker starts on a few other teams, especially those that don’t run off TE all the time, rather use him in the passing game more.

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by Tre9er on Jun 15, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's a beast

240+ lbs, 4.5 speed, makes catches and has the wiggles to return punts. I think he’s a complete monster and looking forward to some more creative play calling this year (if it ever starts) with him and VD on the field at the same time.

by GB9er on Jun 15, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

not a beast

he has good speed for his size. but what does he use that size for? do you see him deliver any crushing blocks? does he bowl over tacklers and break free of tackles for YAC? Nope, he still plays like a WR (his position in college). For an H-Back/TE he’s soft.

by allforfunnplay on Jun 15, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

nice retort

I agree with both of you. He’s a beast in that he can use his hands and body for position, but he’s a major mismatch for LB’s and even some SSs.

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Jun 15, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's not a beast

because he hasn’t beasted in his beastly beasting of other beasts.

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by Tre9er on Jun 16, 2011 6:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree said it before in another post..

Moran Norris days are all about done w/ this team. He served his purpose for up until about ‘09. It’s time for this team the way its constructed to “upgrade the FB position to a newer ’12 model”. John Kuhn would be a great pick up if it can be done.

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Jun 15, 2011 9:04 AM PDT reply actions  

Couldn't agree more...

With Rathman at running backs coach, there is no reason our fullback should be running around whiffing on blocks consistently. It’s time for Norris to hang up the cleats. Not sure what the solution is, but its time for a change.

by Put Down the Haterade on Jun 15, 2011 9:08 AM PDT reply actions  

I think they drafted Bruce Miller to be the FB and are happy with that.

Harbaugh has used the 3 TE offense a lot and so all three could be in on a lot of plays both running and receiving plays.

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by Eastbayjim on Jun 15, 2011 9:50 AM PDT reply actions  

It's Walker that's the issue for me

The Niner’s Tight Ends are a weird bunch.

If you figure that TEs basically have a few primary but important jobs, blocking, splitting the safeties or isolating the middle zone coverage and/or freeing up/loosening up the coverage on WR….and reading blitzes and coverages and being a hot receiver for the QB. sure there is plenty more to the TE position but those are some of the areas I like to highlight.

So Vernon Davis is an odd duck of a TE. Physically he’s a gifted marvel. Athletically he’s fast and strong. His speed has made him a favorite of Alex Smith’s bread and butter play under the Raye/Sing Offense; the deep skinny post. Vernon is also a good blocker too. The thing is that his skills and the way he’s been used is as a jumbo Wide Receiver that can also catch. Some would consider that the definition of a good Tight End. However, that leaves out some of the other things TEs usually bring which is reading of zones to find the soft spots for the QB…being a short and intermediate receiving option. Also the ability to peel off underneath coverage from the WRs as to leave just deep coverage on the WRs…to draw the safety in or over.

But what of Walker? Well he was a WR in college. He’s known to be a weak blocker. So what does he do in the off season? He drops 15 lbs to work on being a better slot receiving option. Now my understanding of the 2nd TE position was as sort of an H-Back type role. Maybe to do some of the things that Davis doesn’t do in his role as a jumbo WR that can block; the H-back is the short and intermediate receiving option and will find the holes in the defense. He also blocks on the line as a 2nd TE and sometimes out of the backfield; because we know that Harbaugh likes Power Running Football. Ideally you’d love it if the H-Back could also work as the primary lead blocking Fullback, but that’s asking a lot. But do we think that a guy that is already a weak blocker and now probably weighs under 230 lbs is a viable 2nd TE/H-back? Is he even capable of being Davis’s backup? Walker says he wants to be a better slot receiver. If the Niners wanted a slot receiver at his position…ya know, one that doesn’t block much, wouldn’t they have just used a real slot receiver? Why bother with a 230 lb receiver that doesn’t block well? You might as well use a shiftier slot receiver that get open against tight coverage.

I actually like Bynham. I think if he does become a better lead blocker and develops reliable hands (he made a nice catch or two last year that surprised some of us but he also dropped a couple too) he could be a good H-Back. He would need to be able to find those holes in the coverage and be the short and intermediate receiving option the team has lacked (other than Frank Gore). That’s basically the role that Bear Pascoe has developed with the Giants. He was used extensively at Fullback and as a 2nd TE last year.

by allforfunnplay on Jun 15, 2011 10:28 AM PDT reply actions  

edit

2nd paragraph, third line:
…he’s been used as a jumbo Wide Receiver that can also BLOCK.

by allforfunnplay on Jun 15, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not sold that he’s a weak blocker. As I’ve noted on here, offensive line play is my favorite aspect of the game. As such, I often watch how tight ends and fullbacks block. Walker has definitely made strides in regards to blocking, and actually blocked extremely well from the fullback position, which tells me that Walker’s strength comes from his burst, which again tells me that his blocking assignments should be on the second level of a defense.

I do like Byham as well, but as it stands right now, it’s a case of Walker being a better blocker than Byham is a receiver.

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by James Brady on Jun 15, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Saw somewhere

that Harbaugh intends to use Walker in the slot as a wide receiver this year. Considering the lack of production from wide receivers, that could be good.

I’m looking forward to seeing how much better the Niner offense is compared with the Nolan/Singletary era.

Oh, and I expect Norris to be gone after camp.

but then I have a reading problem...

by Bob In Beaverton on Jun 16, 2011 6:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

not as a WR, it's called Y-Flex

you line him up inline, then flex him out into the slot. It’s designed to get the defense’s run personnel on the field (LB manned up on TE) and then split him out and cause a mismatch.

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by Tre9er on Jun 16, 2011 6:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Norris

I’m no fan of Norris. Norris had his best year blocking for Frank out of Norv Turner’s offense. Now Norris looks stiffer and slower than me (and that’s saying a lot due to some chronic ankle and foot injuries). And while I don’t disagree that an upgrade is needed (I’d love to see someone who could play Fullback and morph into an H-Back too) I wonder if some of the same problems that have plagued Gore have also effected Norris. One thing that comes to mind is a comment by Fooch in his guestimate analysis of why Gore’s production has decreased. Defenses pretty much know the play that is coming and that they have to stop Gore…if that makes it more difficult for Gore to be productive, it can’t be good for his lead blocker either.

I’m not saying this is the only reason for Norris’ lack of production in recent years. Cause like I said earlier, I’m not sure he’s nimble enough to tie his own shoe…BUT the Niner’s retarded and predictable offense can’t have been helping him either.

by allforfunnplay on Jun 15, 2011 11:30 AM PDT reply actions  

JH=multiple TE sets

Dalaine and Vernon wit Nate doin some blocking…the possibilities are endless. As long as we prepare for injuries by adding depth, we should be aight. Our running game wasn’t as bad as it should’ve been last year all things considering.

Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.

I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.

by NewAgecorner1 on Jun 15, 2011 12:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Norris

If we cut Moron Norris, who else on the team are we going to yell, “you MORON!” at after Frank Gore is tackled for a two yard loss by four unblocked linebackers?

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by Adusoron on Jun 15, 2011 2:14 PM PDT reply actions  

We still got Chilo

Bust out the Frank Gore is washed up chatter. If the passing offense still stinks can always blame the QB for not keeping the defense honest or the idiot who decided to keep the same ineffective QB. Never run out of blame.

These are 49ers fans. There were cat calls of firings when the team would win 14 games per season because they weren’t blowing everyone out by 4 touchdowns per game.

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by bignerd on Jun 15, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have to disagree on Nate

when DW and VD went down last yr 3 games Nate did not hurt the 49ers,in fact when blocking for Frank G,HIS YPR went up 4.3 per carry..1st 5 games NB had 5 receptions,no touches after jimmy R was left go..Playing weight this yr will be 258-260 down 10 lbs from last yr..

by franklinfan on Jun 22, 2011 10:01 AM PDT reply actions  

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