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Shawntae Spencer Might Need To Re-Learn How To Tackle

A couple weeks ago, Football Outsiders put together a rundown of broken tackles against defensive players. The stat comes from FO's game-charting in which individuals track entire games for very specific statistics that aren't captured in many other places. Given the fact that people are watching and tracking this, the numbers might not be 100% accurate. However, even with a little bit of inaccuracy, they still paint an interesting picture.

In a rundown of players with ten or more broken tackles, Shawntae Spencer was tied for 11th with 11 broken tackles. However, on this list he is second for missed tackle percentage. Based on his total tackles (does not include assists), Spencer missed 22% of his tackles in 2010. In the paragraph below the table they refer to run tackles. I'm curious however what the breakdown is of broken pass tackles versus broken run tackles. Didn't at least one of those broken tackles come on that crazy Donald Driver touchdown in the third quarter of the 49ers-Packers game?

It's worth noting that Justin Smith had zero broken tackles last year and Takeo Spikes had only two broken tackles. His 2.1% broken tackle rate was good for fourth among linebackers with at least 50 tackles.

Any thoughts on what caused such a weak performance from Spencer in this regard?

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Definitely wasnt technique

For a corner, tackling is all heart and fearlessness. Those slim or light in the [ site decorum ] guys have issues because they don’t consider themselves strong or sturdy. This results in half hearted ankle tackle attempts. I personally don’t respect many players that don’t hit the weight room hard. These guys think of themselves as “specialists” instead of all around football players. Spencer isn’t aggressive or “spunky” at all. He’s been taught how to tackle but doesnt tackle well out of pure fear.
The reason I think Reavis is the best corner is because he has the best combination of coverage and tackling skills.

It takes a certain mentality to wanna hit a Peyton Hillis in full stride. Most corners nowadays lack that courage.

As far as great tackling corners, Antoine Winfield and Nate Clements are some of the best. They both came from that famed Ohio State secondary program.

Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.

I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.

by NewAgecorner1 on Jun 22, 2011 10:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Agree, it's as much heart as technique for a CB

Has anyone observed a pattern to it? Does his tacking get worse as the game progresses, especially in fourth quarter? Is his second tackle weaker and ineffective if he’s involved in two tackles plays in a row? etc..

by Mood_Indigo on Jun 22, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Shawntae is a cover DB, never been a great tackler

he’s light, thin, and our whole secondary had whiffs all over last year. Donatell better have that high on his list.

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by Tre9er on Jun 22, 2011 10:40 AM PDT reply actions  

for record, I'm saying Tae should be better at it than he is, needs improvement

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I just Twitter'd that

by Tre9er on Jun 22, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

cover DB lol

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jun 22, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

if thats what our coordinators want to improve

then they’ll have to get new guys. That heart required doesnt just show up 6 years into the players’ career. Either you have it or you don’t…it cant be taught. Culliver and adams seem to have that feistyness. I can see those two eventually becoming full time starters. Brown, spencer, james, and brock arent too interested in tackling.

Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.

I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.

by NewAgecorner1 on Jun 22, 2011 10:59 AM PDT reply actions  

In the write-up about Culliver I remember Adams being mentioned. It appears Harbaugh likes Adams a lot

IF>>>> We don’t sign a FA CB then I can see both Culliver and Adams being the backups and soon to be starters. Especially since they don’t have all of those bad habits to unlearn.

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by Eastbayjim on Jun 22, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

every gets to a point where they are just past their prime.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jun 22, 2011 1:35 PM PDT reply actions  

hopefully he will be the niners brent grimes!!!

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jun 22, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

The guy is solid. He tackled well in college... if that translates to the next level I think he can be a starter.

He reminds me of a young Nate Clements. Clements would be a perfect mentor to for him.

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by Drew Kerr on Jun 22, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why do you think he slipped.

and are you the real drewk or are you evil drewk or would evil drewk be good drewk.

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by manraj7 on Jun 22, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I both...depends on the day and mood.

He slipped because he is coming from a school (D-II) that nobody pays attention to. The school’s not heavily scouted but the Niners have a guy who swoops through there every now and again.

But I think he is going to open a lot of eyes. Follow him on twitter… the man is on a mission.

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by Drew Kerr on Jun 22, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

so like dr. Jekkyl and mr hyde kind of thing

dunno if I spelled that right

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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jun 22, 2011 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

did not the new secondary coach really want him?

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jun 22, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

that is why I think he will get some playing time.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jun 22, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I follow him on twitter its why he became my favorite player of this draft

4 year captain really good speed a tad short but you know how I love my short guys.

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
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by manraj7 on Jun 22, 2011 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is why

I say no to NA in FA. We can get the second & third best DB in FA. That will help our secondary a lot. That way we can let the two weakest DB’s that we have go.

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by L. J on Jun 22, 2011 4:36 PM PDT reply actions  

dont worry, he’ll say no to us

Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.

I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.

by NewAgecorner1 on Jun 22, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

not so sure

this is going to be a weird free agency, and with cash salary floor and salary cap every team’s payroll will be pretty close to each other when talking about total dollars spent.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jun 22, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

with all the receptions he gave up...

Would have guessed his tackle number would have been higher.

by wtlichens on Jun 22, 2011 8:29 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

lol

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jun 22, 2011 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

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