Possible New Salary Cap Structure: The Losers
On Tuesday Fooch posted an article that gave you a little bit of a breakdown of the impending collective bargaining agreement; you can read that here.
This morning I decided to delve into the salary cap question and what it means to certain teams heading into what promises to be a frantic free agency period once the CBA is signed. Of course there are going to be winners and losers with the new salary cap structure.
After the jump, I am going to go into detail in regards to the losers that may come out of the new salary cap structure. Additionally, I will focus on where out 49ers stand.
The NFL has had a "hard cap" for some time now. We as 49er fans know all to well what this means. Following the 49ers success of the late 1990s, there was a period where they were in salary cap pergutory. This meant that the 49ers really couldn't spend any money on free agency because of a wide host of issues, included but not limited to bad free agent signings. Antonio Langham anyone?
In 2009, the final capped year for the NFL there was a ceiling of 128 million per team and a floor 87 percent of that, 112.1 million. Because the owners decided to opt out of the CBA there was no salary cap in 2010.
Under the new salary cap teams would be required to spend 90-93 percent of the salary cap, no less. While three percent doesn't seem like a lot; it really could be a factor in where some free agents end up. Additionally, you are going to see fewer large signing bonus and large annual salaries to make up for this discrepancy. Teams are going to be more reluctant than ever to dole out large sums of money that may be back loaded; affecting their ability to maneuver years down the road.
There is also some questions are they relate to long term contracts and the way they are formed. For example, just because a player signed a 5 year contract worth over 60 million dollars it doesn't mean that they entirety of the contract will be spread out evenly.
Our friends at Blogging the Boys uses an example of this in regards to Miles Austin's contract.
Miles Austin's contract is such an example (although specifically designed for the uncapped 2010 year, not for the new rules): His 2010 salary was an incredible $17.1 million, which drops to $8.54 million in 2011 and further drops to an incredibly low $1.15 million in 2012 before going up again. While the first year salary can be considered a signing bonus, for salary cap purposes it was not, and Austin's contract will be very salary cap friendly in the coming years for the Cowboys.
Now some house cleaning issues as they relate to a possible 2011 NFL salary cap
1. You are looking at a 2011 salary cap of about 120 million dollars in the NFL. Under the new guidelines the salary cap floor (minimum a team can spend on their roster) could be anywhere between 2 to 6 million dollars less than that.
2. Although not related to the salary cap, lowering the minimum NFL service time to three years for restricted free agency and four years for unrestricted free agency would have a long term impact on the cap itself. Currently, there are a few teams that are right at the cap threshold, these teams would find it difficult to not only sign free agents, but to retain their own free agents.
Teams Hurt Most By New Salary Cap Structure
The Cowboys payroll stands at about 136.6 million dollars, which is roughly 17 million over the cap. This means that they are going to have to shed some salaries to get under the cap. It also means that certain impact players are going to hit the market from Dallas. Additionally, even if a rookie wage scale is put into place Dallas is going to have to shed some more salaries to get under the 120 million dollar cap.
Who will be cut? Marion Barber, Roy Williams, Leonard Davis, Terence Newman
Impact Free Agents: Doug Free, Kyle Kosier, Marcus Spears and Gerald Sensabaugh
This isn't good news for Dallas Cowboy fans. They will be hard presses to come up with the 40-50 million needed to retain Doug Free. Additionally, they are going to have to make some tough decisions in which veterans to retain. The list I provided above consist of the players I believe will get their walking papers from Dallas once a new CBA is signed and free agency begins.
Currently 8.5 million under the cap and they have a lot of players whose contracts expired following the 2010 season. Now only if New York going to have to limit the players they re-sign, they are going to have to cut a couple players to get under the cap. With Santonio Holmes or Braylon Edwards hitting free agency, the Jets are going to turn their attention to re-upping one of those two players. This means that they are going to have to shave even more money off of their payroll.
Who Will Be Cut? LaDainian Tomlinson, Nick Mangold, Calvin Pace and Bart Scott
Impact Free Agents: Braylon Edwards, Santonio Holmes, Shaun Ellis, David Harris and Antonio Cromartie
There is a lot of talent here and most of these players will not be with the Jets in 2011. I could easily see them retaining Santonio Holmes and David Harris, while letting everyone else walk. A couple of players, Antonio Cromartie and Braylon Edwards could be on the 49ers radar.
Dead money could be an issue because Oakland has about 18 million dollars of that. It remains to be seen what they new collective bargaining agreement would do with dead money, but it is safe to say that it will be included. If it is, the Raiders will be about 15 million dollars over the cap. This would pretty much guarantee that they would be unable to retain that corner, you know who he is!!
Who Will Be Cut? Darrius Heyward-Bey, Tommy Kelly and Chris Johnson
Impact Free Agents: Michael Bush, Zach Miller, Khalif Barnes, Robert Gallery, Jay Richardson and Nnamdi Asomugha.
I know that it is hard to believe that I have Heyward-Bey on this list but it makes perfect sense. He is due about 8.5 million dollars in 2011 if you take into account signing bonus and annual contract. With 23 million guaranteed and 16 million of that already spent, the Raiders may be inclined to cut their losses with him. I doubt that will happen, but it still remains a real possibility. Anyone that expects Asomugha to re-sign with the Raiders are kidding themselves. Logistically, they don't have the cap space or available money to spend 10-15 million per year on him. Additionally, I highly doubt that they will have the money to re-sign Michael Bush. They are going to take a huge hit once free agency starts.
In fact, I could see a scenario where the Raiders lose their best offensive linemen (Gallery), receiver (Miller), and defensive player (Asomugha).
Where our San Francisco 49ers stand?
The 49ers will be anywhere between 20 and 26 million dollars under the cap when free agency starts. A lot of that depends on how bonuses have been structured and what happens with the dead money situation; which the 49ers really don't have much of.
Additionally, you are looking at Nate Clements set to count about 8 million against that cap, you can expect the 49ers to free up a nice chunk of change there. So, I expect San Francisco to be about 30 million under the cap once the dust settles.
Of course, San Francisco has a lot of free agents they have to look at retaining as well. Basis intuition and math gives me these following scenarios in regards to the 49ers current crop of possible free agents
Alex Smith, David Baas, Ray McDonald and Takeo Spikes would add up to about 12 million dollars in 2011 salaries. The 49ers could be extremely smart and look to back load some of the longer term deals as well. Their salary cap situation becomes a lot more sunny in the years to come, so they would be able to back load some of the contracts and give larger signing bonuses. I know this goes against the grain of what some teams are planning to do in 2011, but it could work extremely well in 2011 for San Francisco.
This scenario would leave the 49ers with a minimum of 18 million dollars to spend. Now, if they plan on re-signing Franklin and Lawson; that figure would take a large dip.
You also have to look at the fact that following players will not be on San Francisco under their current contracts in 2011.
Moran Norris: 1.8 million
David Carr: 3.4 million
Eric Heitmann: 2.5 million
Joe Nedney: 2.3 million
Releasing all these players would save San Francisco 10 million dollars as well. So, I do expect San Francisco to be players in the free agent market. It seems that they would have the money to sign a couple top tier free agents and fill some holes with veterans here and there. Considering where the 49ers have been in the past, they are in a great situation once free agency starts.
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What about the money needed to sign their rookies?
Of course, Aldon and Kaep are probably the only two that would really effect the cap room, but do you think this will impact their ability to sign free agents?
Ok I looked it up
Tyson Alualu the DE for Jag was the 9th pick. I used the 9th pick instead of the 7th because the 7th pick was Joe Haden and CBs and DEs don’t get paid the same.
He signed a 5 year 28m deal
So I think cutting those players above will cover all of the rookies salaries.
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k first off
It been widely supported by both sides to do a rookie wage and apperantly, It will be around a 18 mil for 3 years for the #1 pick so that means our rookie salary really wont affect us much at all. I think we fix Clements contract to about 4 mil with incentives remeber guys clements contract is 8 mil not 15 mil he has incentives that our belived to be reach but I dont belive incentives count against the cap. I might be wrong on that also that is why im saying 5 mil for a chance nate to make around 10 mil. I belive richard marshall from carolina is the guy we should target. for our #1 corner I would actually love to see us bring in J.J and Marshall with nate as our 3 I think that would be awesome but we do need to make sure we have a pass rusher.
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by foreveryoung66 on Jun 26, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm really excited with how our cap is looking like.
This is a great website to look at contracts http://www.ninercaphell.com/yearly/2011/salary2011/DESC
I wonder how much our rookies will be paid. It will depend if there is a rookie cap. Clements has the biggest hit on the cap with 15m but if we cut him we will have to pay dead money which would be about 7.5m. I am hoping to get JJ from Cinci but I think the Bengals actually want to keep him.
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Well
you are not looking at that 5Y-28MD figure heading into a rookie pay scale, it should be considerably less. There will be a trickle down affect when it comes to rookie salaries, so I highly doubt that the 49ers will have to fork over the 10 million they save for cutting said players.
Additionally, there could be a strong focus on restructuring some contracts, making more of the money guaranteed and spreading that over the duration of the contract. I could see this happening with the likes of Frank Gore, Anthony Davis, Justin Smith and Patrick Willis. That could save a couple million dollars more, while not threatening the 49ers cap stability in future years.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jun 26, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think we will make Davis, Smith or Willis resign their contracts.
Gore is only signed for a year so maybe part of the extension is him taking a pay cut this year but I dunno. JJ won’t cost much though maybe 10m a year but he is a good corner.
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
If we don't cut him
but restructure the contract that could save even more money than releasing him. Additionally, we would have a pretty solid #2 corner in Clements if we sign a top tier free agent. Just another possibility.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jun 26, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
If we can restructure Clements contract to only 8m I would cut Spencer.
It would give us 3m to work with. The CBs would be JJ Clements Culliver Adams Holocomb
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
How much better can it get - Wow!
A skilled coaching staff, an unshackled GM, draft of a ton of hand-picked players (some who even have SPEED), lifting of the fear-factor from the players attitude, one or two upper tier Free Agents from both sides of the ball becoming available – and now you say there are cap bucks to play with. It can’t possibly better than this, can it?
so Carr knows the whole playbook now
how soon before the Buttbirds or Cardinals scoop him up as a FA?
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"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
lol...Buttbirds.
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Jun 26, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah but it doesn't really matter either way. He's not gonna get in the game like Willie Beamon did.
He’s a decent clipboard and moral guy to have around. He always seems up beat and that’s good for the locker room if nothing else.
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Find me a pick of Kaep not smiling when he isn't playing.
Its not possible not thats an upbeat guy. Carr is extra fat that needs to be trimmed.
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
by manraj7 on Jun 26, 2011 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not to worry, MattSFfrd
This poor kid is whacked out to a point of being almost useless on the field. Second, he would be worse than anything they have now, or have had in the past 2 years – and they know it.
what?
Who would you turn to when you need a crucial sack on third down? We need Carr in Seattle
by mcwagner on Jun 26, 2011 7:08 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Or Arizona
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
i'm more worried about him teaching the playbook to the opposing coaches/defense
not worried about him beating us on the field lol
we cut people at the end of training camp every year
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
I think a lot of teams are going to be paying out under-the-cap money
in 2011, have no idea how even half of them would spend enough to get to the cap floor.
by whistlingmountain on Jun 26, 2011 5:35 PM PDT reply actions
If the 49ers cut those four players, it will be a mistake.
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How so?
I really don’t get it. Don’t the 49ers have better options moving forward at those positions. I cannot stand another year with Norris as the FB. We need to look to the future with the QB position. If Baas re-signs, there isn’t a great need to retain Heitmann. Additionally, if Carr sees extended playing time it means the season is already over. Why not play CK7 then?
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jun 26, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Not at center or kicker.
Who’s better there? Baas? Hardly… Nedney is automatic from inside the 40.
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How would that be a mistake?
We drafted Norris’s replacement
Heitmann is injured and still cannot play
Nedney is 38 and consistently injured time to let Fabbio or Forbath to take a spot
Carr is unnecessary
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
We havent heard anything about Heitmann.
You’re assuming he is not okay when he very well could be. And as mentioned above, Nedney is as clutch as a robot would be from inside the 40-35…
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Well I'm just going off of reports that I am currently hearing that he is still not cleared to practice.
But if he is healthy I would take him. Nedney is getting old too old and is money like a robot to break down. I don’t like looking mid season for another kicker
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
norris is nothing what he was and I doubt he can handle what harbaugh wants form a full back.
hietmann might retire because of this neck injury which not much has been said about him lately.
joe nedney has been injured the past years, I can see where they might cut him but he is excellent when healthy, going to be a tough choice .
do we really want david carr on the team??
by chupamelapolla on Jun 26, 2011 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions
from my understanding the owners are not getting any money off of the top.
it is just a split according to the percentages, so the salary cap should be higher.
1. You are looking at a 2011 salary cap of about 120 million dollars in the NFL. Under the new guidelines the salary cap floor (minimum a team can spend on their roster) could be anywhere between 2 to 6 million dollars less than that.
since the money is not being taken off of the top, there needs to be added back the additional monies. the players will receive 48% of the one billion deducted, so there is an additional 15,000,000.00 per team that would be needed to be added to the 120,000,000 bringing the total cap to about 135,00,000 million.
by chupamelapolla on Jun 26, 2011 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I do believe you have it backwards.. since the money is not being taken off the top, the teams need to make up for it in other ways.. by limiting the salary cap, they get more money.
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I used multiple sources when coming to the conclusion of the 120 million dollar cap scenario. ESPN, CNN and NFL all came up with that 120 million figure.
On the surface some would think the increase in regards to percentages added to the cap each year, it would be near the 130 million; but, this is an entirely new CBA and doesn’t represent the rules of the old one.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jun 26, 2011 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
how did you get the 120million figure?
did other website have a dollar value for the cap?
by chupamelapolla on Jun 26, 2011 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
to me this appears that the one billion off the top is removed.
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In the previous collective bargaining agreement, players received approximately 60 percent of “total revenue” but that did not include $1 billion that was designated as an expense credit off the top of the $9 billion revenue model. Owners initially were seeking another $1 billion in credit only to reduce that amount substantially before exercising the lockout on March 13.
Ultimately, the two sides have decided to simplify the formula, which will eliminate some tedious accounting audits of the credit the players have allowed in the previous deal. NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith has stated that players were actually receiving around 53 percent of all revenues instead of the much advertised 60 percent.
Owners still will get some expense credits that will allow funding for new stadium construction, sources said.
by chupamelapolla on Jun 26, 2011 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I think they will keep the original 1 billion but will not get the second one they were asking for. but at the bottom, it looks like there may be some other credits for stadium construction
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Ultimately,the two sides have decided to simplify the formula,which will eliminatesome tedious accounting audits of thecredit the players have allowed in the previous deal. .
to me that reads the one billion off the top is removed
Owners still will get some expense credits that will allow funding for new stadium construction, sources said.
but it allows for a small amount to be deducted.
by chupamelapolla on Jun 26, 2011 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I am not the only who thinks the cap is going to be between 130-135
We can safely estimate that the 2011 NFL salary cap (or 2012 NFL salary cap if there is no 2011 season) at somewhere between $130-$135 million per team.
by chupamelapolla on Jun 27, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
the owners are making up for the one billion by taking a lesser split. 48% new cba vs. 60% from the old cba.
by chupamelapolla on Jun 26, 2011 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
It's a little hard to take you serious with a nick like that
chupamelapolla = suck my ****
it’s ok, I may be wrong but we will see when the salary cap is announced. there is money taken off the top but not the one billion that was in the old cba.
by chupamelapolla on Jun 26, 2011 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Love the fact he responded and ignored your comment
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No need to read what the poll is actually about.
Small and oversaturated market teams
Some of the worst teams in football this past decade have been the result of spending only 60-70% of the salary cap, circumventing the floor by “likely to be earned” bonuses written into special teams and third stringer contracts that don’t have a chance in hell of being earned or paying out.
If the hard floor is higher then it’s going to be much harder to circumvent and some of these clubs are going to have to spend another 15-25 million a year in player salary.
There was mention (I think on ProFootballTalk) that the new salary cap structure could be based on money actually spent on players’ salaries each year, instead of cap dollars and prorated bonuses and likely to be earned incentives and such.
This is to prevent teams like the Bucs from spending very little in real money each year while carrying a large cap number that just gets rolled over each year.
If this kind of scenario does in fact happen to some extent (it’s not a stretch to think of a cap system with a cap number, but also hard floor that represents actual money spent each year), then that could undermine a lot of the analysis here.
I've assumed that they keep using the term "in cash" to denote this, that you have to actually spend it
if it’s not spent at the end of the year, you have to divvy out the difference to all the players on the roster.
It will be interesting to see what the plan of attack is going forward, a half a dozen teams really found out how to maximize the cap the last 10 years, but it will change the game to have a higher/required floor, a lower ceiling(due to retired benefits coming out of the player pool), lower prices on high draft picks..
could see more big roster bonuses with lower annual contracts in order to hit cap floors without risking dead cap space. could see teams go under the cap anyway and just pay the difference in order to prevent the risk of dead space.
by whistlingmountain on Jun 27, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions

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