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2011 NFL Supplemental Draft: Will The 49ers Draft Anyone?

Last week the NFL announced that the 2011 Supplemental Draft would go forward despite the continuing lockout. This year's draft promises to have some nice amount of talent in it, especially with the current situation at Ohio State. May of their top tier players are going to be suspended for, at least five games, maybe more. So, some will opt to enter the supplemental draft instead.

It is possible because of the situation of current college players that this could be the strongest supplemental draft in history. Some of the players, as you will see below, would be top 2012 NFL Draft prospects. So, do the 49ers get involved in this draft for only the second time in their history? 

After the jump I will look at a few players that may enter the 2011 Supplemental Draft. Keep in mind that these are simply projections of players I think may enter the draft. 

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This is how the supplemental draft works. Non play off teams with six wins or less are grouped into the top of the draft, non-playoff teams with more than 6 wins are in the second tier and all 12 playoff teams are in the third tier. Those teams with 6 wins or less, 49ers included, take part in a lottery to see where they will be selecting. Each team provides a list of players they are interested in and what round they would select said player. The teams that provides the highest round tender will be given the rights to the player. If two teams tender the same round for a player, the team with the highest pick in that round will get the player.

If a team uses a pick in the Supplemental Draft, they must forfeit their choice in the corresponding round of the next years NFL Draft.

Who is eligible for the supplemental draft? Players who missed the filing deadline for the 2011 NFL Draft held in April. So, for all intent and purposes, Andrew Luck is eligible. That said, there is absolutely no way he decides to enter it. Players that have had off-field issues, don't like the direction of their college team or are failing in school are usually the types that enter this type of draft.

 

QB- Terrelle Pryor  Ohio State

Position Rank: 4 2010 Stats: 65.4 Comp %, 2772 Yards, 27 TD, 11 INT, 754 Rush Yards, 4 TD

Analysis: His off-field exploits are by now well documented. Some Ohio State players have called out Pryor for causing Jim Tressel his job, and the criticism is well warranted. Pryor's character is going to be in question until he not just fixes it, but changes his actions off the field. 

That said, Pryor is an extremely talented QB, at least physically. You have to realize that he is 6 foot, 6 inches, nearly 240 pounds and is one of the fastest players in the Big 10. Those physical characteristics alone makes Pryor an intriguing prospect. 

Pryor has improved as a decision maker over the course of his career, and is continuing to improve as I write this, he also has an extremely live arm and could throw pretty much any pass asked of him

Pryor has issues with footwork and release, those two things are going to have to be fixed is he is going to be a successful NFL QB. Character issues may turn a lot of teams off of him during the supplemental draft; if he elects to enter it

The 49ers have absolutely not need for a player like Pryor on their roster. They already drafted Colin Kaepernick and will be turned off by these off-field issues. Additionally, I am not sure Pryor is worth much more than a 3rd round pick.

Projected Round: 3

 

RB- Daniel Herron, Ohio State

Position Rank: 10 2010 Stats: 1155 Rush Yards, 5.3 AVG, 16 TD, 

Analysis: Herron has the potential to be a workhorse NFL RB, much like what I envision Rashad Mendenhall being down the line for Pittsburgh. His body of ability doesn't make Herron a top flight 1st round prospect. Additionally, he was one of five Ohio State players suspended for the first half of the 2011 season. 

The 49ers really have no need for a RB at this point with the selection of Anthony Dixon in 2010 and Kendall Hunter in 2011

Projected Round: 5

 

WR- DeVier Posey, Ohio State

Position Rank: 6 2010 Stats: 58 Receptions, 848 Yards, 7 TD

Analysis: Posey has all the physical tools to be a dominating receiver at the next level. He is faster on the field than his 40 time would tell you and has extremely great hands. You will see Posey get great separation from the defender and haul down pretty much everything thrown his way. 

As with Pryor there are character concerns, but those could be worked out because of the position Posey plays. Wide Receivers seem to have a little bit of an ego as it is, so he is probably no different. Additionally, you wouldn't be asking Posey to be the on and off field leader of the offense like you would with Pryor and the QB position

Projected Round: 1-2

 

OT- Mike Adams, Ohio State

Position Rank: 2 

Analysis: This position rank will probably go up to #1 as the 2012 draft nears and if Adams forgoes the supplemental draft. Adams is an extremely dominating blocker in both the passing and rushing game. I really don't see any weakness in regards to his game. You seem him get low on blocks, open up lanes on the side and is extremely solid against speed rushers. If Adams decides to go back to Ohio State you are looking at a top 5 pick in 2012

Projected Round: 1

 

LB- Nathan Williams, Ohio State

Position Rank: 16 2010 Stats: 41 Tackles, 5.5 Sacks

Analysis:This is a type of player that I wouldn't mind the 49ers taking a flier on in the 7th round of the supplemental draft. He has more talent in his finger than any 7th round pick in 2012 would have in their entire body. Williams is extremely aggressive and gets into the offensive back field on a regular basis. 

Additionally, Williams is extremely solid against the run and can drop back into coverage. If Williams decides to return to Ohio State for his senior season you are looking at a 2nd round pick. 

Projected Round: 6-7

 

CB- Janoris Jenkins, Florida

Position Rank: 1 2010 Stats: 43 Tackles, 3 INT, 1 TD

Analysis: Kicked off Florida's team this off-season because of his third arrest on marijuana charges in two years. There is no doubt in my mind that Jenkins will be a shutdown corner in the NFL. He may even grade up to the likes of Patrick Peterson; this is how good Jenkins is.

Jenkins is a strong on the ball defender, receivers do not get separation from him and he jumps all over the route while reading the QB well. If you can look past immature marijuana arrests it is possible the 49ers spend a high supplemental pick on this player. 

Projected Round:: 1-2 

 

WR- Michael Floyd, Notre Dame

Position Rank: 1 2010 Stats: 79 Receptions, 1025 Yards, 12 TD

Analysis: Will probably be the highest touted NFL prospect since Michael Crabtree in 2009, this is how much skill Floyd has. As a Golden Domer, I have had the pleasure of watching Floyd play a lot, and his talent cannot be understated. 

Floyd is going to be extremely hard to defend in the NFL because of the combination of his size and speed. Floyd is 6 foot, 3inches and weighs about 240 pounds; about the size of Vernon Davis, minus a half of dozen pounds or so. Floyd adjusts well to ball thrown his way and has great hands. I saw him make about 20-25 difficult catches in 2010 for Notre Dame; mostly because of the innaccuracy of Dane Crist.

You will see Floyd attack the ball in the air and not let it get to his body. He can get behind the defender because of a great combination of moves, and once he is behind the defender it is virtually game over. If Floyd returns to Notre Dame in 2012, not a certainty because of off-field issues, you are looking at the first non QB to be selected in 2012

Projected Round: 1

 

Overview: It would be hard to justify the 49ers giving up a high 2012 draft pick in order to select a player in the supplemental draft that has serious character issues. Most of the players listed above would probably be put into that category. There is a reason they didn't enter the 2011 draft in the first place, and those reasons worry me. Either they didn't think that they would be ranked that high, or off-field issues took place following the deadline.

That said, there are a couple players, Michael Floyd and Janoris Jenkins,  I think the 49ers need to take a hard look at. Both would probably cost either a 1st or 2nd round selection in 2012. But, lets put that in perspective. These are two positions the 49ers would probably be looking at early in 2012, and both of these players are ranked #1 at their respective position. I doubt that many of us think San Francisco will be picking in the top five next season, so this would represent a tremendous steal for them

If would be a high risk, high reward proposition; especially with Jenkins, who has had continual off field and drug related problems. That said, you have to look at his body of talent and then make a decision if the reward is worth the risk. 

With Michael Floyd, the risk isn't as high; but neither is the need. San Francisco currently has 6 receivers on their roster and really don't have room for another one. However, they don't have a true #1 wide receiver and that is what Michael Floyd is. I would have absolutely no problem with the 49ers selecting Michael Floyd in the supplemental draft (either 1st or 2nd round), and releasing Ted Ginn. 

Teams with chance to acquire top pick in 2011 supplemental draft

Buffalo Bills

Cleveland Browns

Cincinnati Bengals

Tennessee Titans

Houston Texans

Denver Broncos

Dallas Cowboys

Washington Redskins

Detroit Lions

Minnesota Vikings

Carolina Panthers

San Francisco 49ers

Arizona Cardinals 

 

Supplemental Draft History

1985: QB- Bernie Kosar Cleveland Browns 1st Round

1987: LB- Brian Bosworth Seattle Seahawks 1st Round

1987: WR- Cris Carter Philadelphia Eagles 3rd Round

1989: QB- Steve Walsh Dallas Cowboys 1st Round

1998: DT- Jamal Williams San Diego Chargers 2nd Round

2006: LB- Ahmad Brooks Cincinnati Bengals 3rd Round 

Poll
Who would you like to see the 49ers draft in the 2011 supplemental draft?
Janoris Jenkins
480 votes
Michael Floyd
221 votes
Terrelle Pryor
205 votes
DeVier Posey
61 votes
Other
34 votes
None
114 votes

1115 votes | Poll has closed

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Hey Nocal..how come the supplemental draft seems so big this year?

I thought these drafts were only for expansion teams or something..is this draft a yearly thing or what? I swear I never heard of this before..so why is it so big this time ??

"Winning means being unafraid to lose." – Fran Tarkenton

by Nelow on Jun 5, 2011 9:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Good Question

I think a lot of it has to do with Ohio State’s situation. Some players aren’t going to return just to be suspended for the entire 2011 season, which could be the case with some Buckeye players.

This draft is held annually and usually doesn’t get much play, however, there have been some real good players taken in the supplemental over the decades. Your thinking of expansion drafts, where new teams are allowed to pick unprotected players from existing teams rosters.

Mila "Sweet Lips" Kunis, as stated by Scarlett Johansson. I couldn't agree more. Reverse would be true too!!!!

by nocal81(Vincent) on Jun 5, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

The only 2 things going on is the lock-out and the supplemental draft.

by twolfe2 on Jun 5, 2011 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jenkins isn't entering he is transferring to a d2 school.

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by manraj7 on Jun 5, 2011 9:41 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Not set in stone

Multiple reports are saying that he is still deciding. Some close to him believe that he is actually leaning to the Supplemental

Mila "Sweet Lips" Kunis, as stated by Scarlett Johansson. I couldn't agree more. Reverse would be true too!!!!

by nocal81(Vincent) on Jun 5, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pryor is awful

And I said that LONG before all of this character stuff came up. He’s no where near the QB Ohio State thought they were getting when he signed.

"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."

by Blank x2 on Jun 5, 2011 11:35 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't think Andrew Luck would qualify for the supplemental draft

unless he did something stupid to get himself kicked out of Stanford. Maybe I misunderstood the rules, but think this draft is for those who find themselves ineligible for the upcoming college season, like the Ohio State guys.

by McTee on Jun 5, 2011 12:12 PM PDT reply actions  

He does qualify

There is no “rule” set in place that you have to be ineligible. Any upper class player (junior or senior) that missed the filing deadline for April’s draft would be able to enter the supplemental.

Usually top prospects don’t because they can increase their stock in school and would get a ton more money in the regular April draft. The last “top prospect” that entered the supplemental draft was Ahmad Brooks, who the Bengals took a few years back. He would have probably been a late 1st or early 2nd round pick had he decided to return to school and enter April’s draft.

Mila "Sweet Lips" Kunis, as stated by Scarlett Johansson. I couldn't agree more. Reverse would be true too!!!!

by nocal81(Vincent) on Jun 5, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jenkins or Floyd are worth the risk.

We are talking about kids who could turn out to be elite NFL players, whose stock has fallen because of character issues. Given Baalke’s tendency to take high-risk, high-reward players I could see the 49ers drafting either of these guys.

by Robert Steveson on Jun 5, 2011 12:12 PM PDT reply actions  

but not risky with character concerns

high reward or high ceilings with risk as to their floor; both in regards to their on-field abilities

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jun 6, 2011 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Question

Since the lockout is still on, are teams allowed to talk with these guys, or people who know them? It’ll be a fairly big risk if they can’t do any background checks.

by McTee on Jun 5, 2011 12:50 PM PDT reply actions  

I hope nobody

None of them are worth giving up a 1st or 2nd next year.

We have no idea how this season is going to pan out and may need to go different directions with our high round picks next year.

6th or 7th round picks? Yeah, if you see a guy that might be a top 3 round guy next year for a 6th or 7th in the supplemental, go ahead.

by Ougadas on Jun 5, 2011 1:23 PM PDT reply actions  

You Don't Think

That Jenkins or Floyd are worth a 2nd round pick? Both will be top 10 picks next season. Character issues aside, that is great value

Mila "Sweet Lips" Kunis, as stated by Scarlett Johansson. I couldn't agree more. Reverse would be true too!!!!

by nocal81(Vincent) on Jun 5, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

No I don't

I don’t agree with your assessment of Jenkins skill level, and high round wide receivers are almost always huge mistakes. Even when they don’t bust the opportunity cost is huge.

by Ougadas on Jun 5, 2011 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I understand your feelings, but consider this ...

There is absolutely no other way that the Niners would have an opportunity to draft a Floyd, Adams, or Jenkins in the regular 2012 draft. I think that you have to ask yourself the question … if it was our turn in the draft next April and these three guys were available, would I take one. I think that the obvious answer is yes … and it doesn’t really matter too much which one.

You might be wondering why I include Adams in the list. My thought is simply that Staley has been injured in each of the last two years and an OT trio, after some additional development, of Davis, Adams and Boone would be dynamite. Since Staley is an experienced, young, better-than-average LT, I would try to trade him, while he still has value, for a superior CB or DE.

by 49erFanSince1950 on Jun 5, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting

I don’t think they would trade Staley at all. I used to always seem to think it is so easy to trade players, but we as fans have to remember that we would suffer a large cap penalty if we were to trade him away.

Regarding the draft I think Floyd or Jenkins would be worth the risk. I don’t know if a first, probably, but definitely a second. I would take probably Jenkins over Floyd because we need the position more, but Floyd is the closest sure thing of the two. It will be interesting. I honestly doubt they do anything, but Jenkins could make it interesting with the need at CB or they could always sign a free agent whenever the lockout ends.

by flyincow555 on Jun 5, 2011 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Floyd, Adams, Jenkins

First round “can’t miss” wide receivers miss more often than not. Mortgaging the future for one is an even bigger mistake.

Jenkins will be available in the second next year. First, unless the NCAA doesn’t approve he’s applied to transfer to Northern Alabama. Second, Kirkpatrick, Minnefield, Harris, and Dennard are better in my opinion.

You worry about Staley being constantly injured and yet would spend a high pick on a guy who has battled knee issues during his college career?

I wouldn’t.

by Ougadas on Jun 5, 2011 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Harris too

I haven’t watched Kirkpatrick but I heard he has all the athleticism but not as much of the production. Also what do you think about Culliver buddy

Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
Im not competitive I just addicted to winning.

by manraj7 on Jun 5, 2011 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oops

I forgot Gilmore.

Add him to the list.

by Ougadas on Jun 6, 2011 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I tend to agreee

I find the supplimental to be a risk unless the guy is a late round get. The LB Williams would be interesting though.

by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jun 5, 2011 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm.

By contract the league could go ahead with the 2001 draft. Was there language also allowing the supplemental draft?

but then I have a reading problem...

by Bob In Beaverton on Jun 5, 2011 1:52 PM PDT reply actions  

I would be o.k. with Jenkins or Floyd

It all depends on how confident we are that we will be picking early next draft or late. Either guy could be the difference to win the nfc west instead of top 10th pick next year.

by wtlichens on Jun 5, 2011 9:13 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I for one ..would definitely love to see Andrew Luck flop his next year

And then declare for the draft..I hope under those circumstances that he is reached by the Niners..even though we have Kaep.

"Winning means being unafraid to lose." – Fran Tarkenton

by Nelow on Jun 5, 2011 9:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Was Jenkins just smoking the pot or was he selling it?

Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
Im not competitive I just addicted to winning.

by manraj7 on Jun 5, 2011 10:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Just smoking

The first time was in a nightclub bathroom where he was rolling a joint. The second time he was sitting in his car in a parking lot smoking a big ole fat one. Or so I’ve read. The state attorney said this: "If he can’t figure out that smoking pot is illegal maybe he can at least learn to be more circumspect about it.’’ Duh.

by McTee on Jun 6, 2011 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

haha...

The dude obviously likes to smoke. Better hope he can get a California green card if he wants to be a 9er.

by LongTimeReader1stTimeBlogger on Jun 6, 2011 1:34 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Take a flyer on a late round guy with upside

Not interested in one of the upper round guys unless you can get him for a 3rd-day pick. These guys may have talent, but I don’t think it’s worse the risk.

Point out Jenkins all you want, but the buy got popped 3 times. If it was once, ok dumb mistake; twice, ok you screwed up but it’s fixable; three times tough, you’re just the biggest bonehead in the world or you have absolutely no care about authority or even trying to hide your little habit. Bet money he gets popped again as a rookie for smoking.

by 9thevolution on Jun 6, 2011 6:36 AM PDT reply actions  

Good lord hyperbole alert

Michael Floyd the most highly touted PLAYER since Crabtree?

Mike Adams the best OT? Ever hear of Kalil?

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jun 6, 2011 7:34 AM PDT reply actions  

2011 Supplemental Draft

So far, it’s just 1 player that is most likely going to sign up and it’s Terrelle Pryor, Jenkins, we will see the situation on him if he will transfer to D2 school or just change his mind and go, Michael Floyd is talented but is he worth a first rd pick? I will definitely consider Mike Adams. At best I would put 2nd rd submissions, if the other teams are willing to give up first rd submissions, it’s most likely a playoff teams. But if we don’t get any, it’s okay, I am happy to wait until 2012 and see what are needs are.

by kdogg1980 on Jun 10, 2011 10:25 AM PDT reply actions  

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