2011 49ers QB Situation: Who Will Be Starting Week One?

by David Fucillo on Jul 12, 2011 8:01 AM PDT in 49ers QB 2011

Now that we seem to finally be getting closer and closer to the end of the NFL's labor malaise, I wanted to gauge opinions on the 49ers QB situation heading into the season. The 49ers face a bit of a bizarre situation having a new coaching staff with a free agent QB who basically is part of the team but will be competing against an undetermined number of QBs including a second round pick who may be the long term answer. And that's the simplified version.

One of the more reported tidbits from the 49ers players-only practices was that Colin Kaepernick has a cannon of arm. Reports indicated he knocked Lance Long off his feet with a pass. It remains to be seen what kind of touch and accuracy he'll have in the NFL, but it's good to know he's got a rifle for an arm. Of course, Nate Davis had a cannon as well and he faces a questionable NFL future.

Training camp could be starting up in the next three or four weeks and Jim Harbaugh has said it will be a wide open competition with the best man winning the job. I'm sure some people believe that while others rolled their eyes when they heard those comments. Right now the contestants would be Alex Smith, David Carr and Colin Kaepernick, with some folks thinking a guy like Louisville's Adam Froman could enter the mix.

Whatever the case, I'd like to use this poll to establish a base line as we move into training camp. I'm asking you who you think WILL be the starting quarterback for the 49ers week one game versus Seattle. I'm not asking who you think should be starting the game, but simply who you think will be starting the game (whether you agree with the decision or not). If you think the team will bring in a free agent (rookie or veteran) or will make a trade for a QB, feel free to specify who that would be in the comments. Depending on how the training camp competition goes we'll have at least one or two more of these polls to see how opinions change (or stay the same) in August.

Poll

Who will start the 49ers week one contest versus Seattle?

Alex Smith

853 votes

David Carr

18 votes

Colin Kaepernick

138 votes

Other (please specify in comments)

30 votes

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Can’t see any way that CK starts in week one. Nor should he, in my (very, very humble) opinion. Let’s not make him another Alex by throwing him to the wolves in his rookie year. I wouldn’t start him even if he feels ready. Not that I’m an NFL coach; I am in fact an idiot from England.

It’s Smith or a new QB we trade for, in week one, imo. CK’s time will come …

by LondonNiner on Jul 12, 2011 8:16 AM PDT reply actions

FWIW

An idiot from N. California thinks you are an amusing idiot from England!

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by riderless on Jul 12, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions

Thanks mate!

by LondonNiner on Jul 12, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions

England, I thought you were from Wales ; )

by ericalancanty on Jul 12, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions

You’re thinking of LlandudnoNiner ;)

by LondonNiner on Jul 12, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions

Different situation

Alex Smith did not have a supporting cast around him the way Kaep does.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 12, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions

May the guy puts out the best results start.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 12, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions

David Carr

unless Alex Smith is injured, he’ll start in Seattle. And CK will likely end up the #2 QB. But if we’re going to start questioning certainties, then might as well go big.

Carr Predition: Alex Smith goes down with another shoulder injury three days before the start of the season, no other vet QB was signed and Kaepernick failed to beat out Carr for the number two spot and is having problems with his leg that underwent surgery. So in comes Carr and stuns fans with a win as Harbaugh proves he is the true QB whisper. We want Carr is no longer a snyde joke and shortly after the game the players take off in their flying cars which have been invented and mass produced between now and the start of the season.

by reedkrase on Jul 12, 2011 8:22 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs

My prediction

Carr won’t be on the roster and we can stop the trend of collecting #1 overall busts.

by asmithisaverage on Jul 12, 2011 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions

Hell would literally freeze over

…If Carr ever wins another game because of David Carr, he underthrew a 15 yard corner route to Vernon Davis, a 15 yard route! Im not even saying he floated it there like a 12 year old could easily do, he simply didn’t even get it there, pathetic, gonna go all in the Alex Smith kool-aid one last time, but to be honest I can’t wait for that final preseason game down here in SD I’m looking forward to watching CK potentially with Crabs and VD for a least a little while in person.

by Justin Heim on Jul 12, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions

yee of little faith

don’t you want a flying car?

by reedkrase on Jul 12, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions

Just like Carr it would probably crash and burn shortly into its lifecycle

by Justin Heim on Jul 12, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions

Maybe it's not so far fetched

http://www.terrafugia.com/

by 9thevolution on Jul 12, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions

Two thoughts

1. How has this not been rec’d? I rec’d.

2. Hilarious how people have given you serious answers. Brilliant. “I believe in flying cars!” “I don’t agree!”

by LondonNiner on Jul 12, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions

thanks

I was beginning to wonder if there was no room for sarcasm and double speak on the internet. Apparently it is only for the few.

by reedkrase on Jul 12, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions

Smith in week 1, but I doubt he finishes the season.

RLOTT#42

Yeah I said it, Craptree, and it is not a typo.....

Kaepernick is the lone quarterback in Division I history to pass for over 10,000 career yards and also rush for 4,000 yards.

by rlott#42 on Jul 12, 2011 8:35 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs

Smith is starting the entire season

He’ll finally show what made him the no.1 pick with Harbaugh believing in him.

by Rocky63215 on Jul 12, 2011 8:51 AM PDT reply actions

Agreed

I think he actually has a solid season, lets see if he gets a one year deal with a team option for a second, so if the niners feel CK could use two years of seasoning before finally taking over, Smith could produce two above average years, wow Im really reaching I know

by Justin Heim on Jul 12, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions

If Carr starts, I’m turning off the game. Ok not really, but I’ll start drinking heavily in hopes that the horrible loss won’t stick in my brain.

by mrg80 on Jul 12, 2011 8:55 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs

100 percent agree

that guy butchered the QB position so bad in limited playing time last season I see no reason why he would even be on the roster to collect a pay check

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 12, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions

Alex Smith

Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs in 2012, hopefully! :)

by teekay on Jul 12, 2011 9:02 AM PDT reply actions

LONG GONE.

i LIKE TO SEE WHO THE 9ERS WILL BRING IN AFTER THE LOCKOUT IS OVER WITH, JOSH JOHNSON? CARSON PALMER? OR ANY OTHER VET, SPICE IT UP A LIL. I HOPE CARR AND SMITH WILL BE LONG GONE AND A PART OF OUR LOSING HISTORY

by DaHawn-49er on Jul 12, 2011 9:02 AM PDT reply actions

I think it’s too late to get another starter in, unless Harbaugh is cold blooded enough to stick it to Alex. Or Alex leaving the Niners, which I don’t think he would. He has little to no chance to start elsewhere and regardless of his long term thoughts about SF, he needs playing time.

by mrg80 on Jul 12, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions

Hrmm

The question of who WILL start is a lot different from the question of who SHOULD start under reasonable circumstances.

by asmithisaverage on Jul 12, 2011 9:13 AM PDT reply actions

I want Kaepernick to start

I think the team is way more talented then the team Smith’s rookie year and he has an O-Line that should be ready to protect a QB. Their documented weight loss for quickness and having Iupati and Davis start as rookies all last season the 49ers O-Line should be ready to be a strength of the team this year. There is also the fact that Chilo won’t be put out there “just because” , the people who drafted him and the coach who loved him are gone. If he starts it would be because he beat out Snyder, and Snyder stepped up as a leader and from what I have read is in the best shape of his life. I think the O Line makes a QB look good because almost anyone looks good with a healthy Frank Gore picking up yards and an Offensive line that keep the heat off the QB.

I think Alex is best served as a mentor and back up QB for a rookie that he has already taken under his wing. If he struggles or is getting beaten up from holding on to the ball too long send in Alex Smith. He played he best football coming in the game for an injured Hill. That may just be a roll that suits him and he can stay with the 49ers and not have to move his family. I mean really no one expects Smith to start after this season anyways right? The playbook will be pretty basic to start the season since there will be no OTA’s or Mini Camps. I hope they make the change now and we (as fans) never look back. And if Alex does get a chance to get in the game he can play that savior roll where he has more of a chance to be a hero rather then getting booed out of the stadium after yet another 3rd down roll right and throw the ball away.

by Mr. Jesse From Anchorage, AK on Jul 12, 2011 10:21 AM PDT reply actions

oline

our oline is great on paper as far a draft picks, but it is still the same oline that allowed Alex Smith to separate his shoulder in week 7. They learned a lot in the final 10 weeks of the season, but not enought to win my confidence.

weight loss might mean stronger, might mean lost muscle. They say they’re stronger but there isn’t anyone to confirm.

No reason to start CK until 2012 when we can be certain the pieces are in place. And, the way things have gone for Alex, he’ll likely be injured again and CK will get his shot. I’m not rooting for those circumstances, but Alex hasn’t played a full season since 06.

by reedkrase on Jul 12, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions

I think your opinion on the O-line is valid to a degree but a few things come to mind that make me think that this year the line will be drastically better

For one David Bass has really grown into the role of the starting center, he wants to come back the team wants him to come back and Alex is really comfortable with him.

Mike Iupati & Anthony Davis will have had that valuable experience of starting the whole season and they won’t have those nerves

Joe Staley will be healthy

Like Jesse pointed out, Snyder will beat out Rachel as the RT not because he is more talented but that he is the better player at the present

And finally the coaching will be better, which means that the tackles will not have to be on an island every single down and will get help from the TE’s & RB’s. Davis got beat all year because he had no help due to Mike Singletary’s stubbornness, Coach Harbaugh & Coach Roman will not have the same problem

by Lok on Jul 12, 2011 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions

I hope so

but I still don’t have any confidence in them. It will take 6-7 good games from the oline before I’d feel they could protect a rookie QB

by reedkrase on Jul 13, 2011 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions

even if in game one they would be capable, again, an issue of confidence, not just skill.

by reedkrase on Jul 13, 2011 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions

True, you are right to be hesitant about the line

I just feel that because the overall scheme of the offense will be better, the line will improve because not only will the ball come out faster but that the RB’s & The TE’s help help with chip blocks

by Lok on Jul 13, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions

I wouldn't mind this scenario.

I believe Kaepernick and Harbaugh can get it done, and the team is much better than the one that Smith was thrown into his rookie season. It may be a bit of a bumpy ride, but it could work.

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Kaepernick is some kind of Montana/Young/Roosevelt hybrid, and will absolutely ruin the NFL experience for the other 31 teams and their few fans.

by jbrown63 on Jul 12, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions

No way in heck is CK ready with no camps. Best case scenario for CK starting is mid season, due to Alex tanking our season (worst case scenario) or Alex getting hurt (still not a good situation, as I don’t think CK will be ready).

by mrg80 on Jul 12, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions

Alex Smith will start week 1

It is hard to imagine CK7 being ready to perform at a winning level that early, especially due to the extended lockout. If Smith falters and the 49ers aren’t winning, they will be inclined to start CK7 later in the season; I hope that doesn’t happen.

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 12, 2011 10:23 AM PDT reply actions

Who voted for Carr?

show your face

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 12, 2011 10:25 AM PDT reply actions

I did and I posted the reasoning above

your theory above is disproved when Harbaugh is added in.

If
harbaugh = QB God of skill development
and
Alex = harbaugh’s skill of development
and
Alex = Carr
then
Carr = harbaugh’s skill of development

And we will have flying cars in 2 months

by reedkrase on Jul 12, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions

here are the 10 best http://www.gizmowatch.com/entry/top-ten-flying-cars/

by reedkrase on Jul 12, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions

what if your flying car breaks down?

I can’t even change my oil on time, I want no part of those

His name is Ydwin, your argument is invalid.

by microwave donut on Jul 12, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions

none of those cars look like they’re very far off the ground, and as long as they land wheels first they should be ok . . . kind of . . . . well, after the lawsuit settles

by reedkrase on Jul 12, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions

That picture should say "Transitive Property of Equality",

rather than “Theory of Equality”.

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Kaepernick is some kind of Montana/Young/Roosevelt hybrid, and will absolutely ruin the NFL experience for the other 31 teams and their few fans.

by jbrown63 on Jul 12, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions

Carson Palmer

Palmer will be the starter, Kaepernick second string some random veteran free agent will be third. Alex Smith will & David Carr will be elsewhere after being traded or released.

Tinman

by Tinman17 on Jul 12, 2011 11:02 AM PDT reply actions

All this talk about David Carr

Makes me sad. :(

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by OnDeck_Matt on Jul 12, 2011 11:06 AM PDT reply actions

Please tell me you did not just compare Kaepernick to Nate Davis Fooch... Please tell me you did not really just write that.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 12, 2011 11:42 AM PDT reply actions

Didn't even realize that "comparison" yikes

CK7 has more talent in his overgrown toe nail than Davis had in his entire body.

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 12, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions

And he doesn't have an overgrown toe nail

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 12, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions

Hold on playa

Nate Davis had much talent but little to no work ethic… Until his learning disability was “discovered” he was talked about as a 1st round draft pick.

With that said Kaepernick has as much talent if not more, and unlike Nate he is known as a hard worker and a grinder. Hard work pays off for QB’s

by Mr. Jesse From Anchorage, AK on Jul 12, 2011 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions

I was simply referencing a previous situation

The reports have some folks excited about Kaepernick’s cannon of an arm. Nate Davis’ cannon had people excited as well. The sentence before sets up the Nate Davis comment.

by David Fucillo on Jul 12, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions

Hence

“Comparison”. I understand what you were saying.

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 12, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions

I just don't want to hear any comparison of Nate Davis and Colin Kaepernick at all I guess.

It turns my stomach…

They are completely different players. Vince Young or anything else would have been better for me than a guy who will not be in the league much longer; if at all.

I get the comparison of arm strength, but still…

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 12, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions

comparison

I never compared them as players. I compared the situation of fans getting excited about arm strength. Kaepernick proved quite a bit at Nevada, but he needs to prove it at the next level. I’m not saying he won’t and I never said he’d turn into Nate Davis. And CK could prove he can handle NFL competition very quickly. Doesn’t change the comparison of some fan reactions.

by David Fucillo on Jul 12, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions

I know, I know...

It’s a personal issue for me… it has nothing to do with what you wrote; I get that you were only comparing arms. I just thought Nate Davis conversation would have been gone for good when he made the exit last year. And to see his name here makes me sick because of all the pointless conversations about him last year and the year before.

Colin is head and shoulders ahead of where ND was. He is more intelligent, a better athlete, was drafted much, much higher… and any correlation between the two is going to not sit well with me.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 12, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions

Kaepernick will be in the center of a competition for starting quarterback heading in to the 2011 season. There will be a legit quarterback controversy between him and Smith.

The only controversy Nate Davis was ever involved in is whether or not he would be playing defensive back on the prep squad from week-to-week. He wasn’t even allowed to carry a clipboard.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 12, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions

I understand

I can see why reference to Nate Davis can get the blood boiling. And from everything we’ve heard CK sounds like he is indeed head and shoulders above Davis. But I just wanted to make the point based on the excitement. Nothing more.

by David Fucillo on Jul 12, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions

Vince Young?

Well, there goes my lunch from Subway.

Thanks a lot Drew

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 12, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions

Helluva lot better than Nate "notgoingtobeintheleagueforlong" Davis

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 12, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions

Still

Those onions don’t taste as good the second time around.

Thanks

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 12, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions

Outside of VY's head issues, he is one heck of a NFL quarterback.

When he is on the field, anything is possible. The team follows him.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 12, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Key terms

“Head Issues” . Not the two words you want to hear from the supposed leader of your offense.

Outside of his 15 off-field arrests Lawrence Phillips had a lot of running ability

Gross

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 12, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions

Whatever

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 12, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions

It’s not a comparison of the players, its an example of arm strength not being the end all be all

by mrg80 on Jul 12, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm going on record right now saying this will be Alex's best year as a pro...

All of the following refer only to Alex’s professional career:

1) the first time he has EVER had an offensive minded head coach
2) this will be the best offensive system he has ever played under
3) the offensive game planning will be the best he has played under
4) the offensive play calling will be the best he has had
5) his knowledge of the offense/play book going into the season will be his best ever
6) the skill players around him will be as good as he has ever played with
7) the offensive line in front of him will be the best one he’s ever played behind
8) his level of leadership and maturity are the highest they’ve ever been

All that having been said, will he make the Pro Bowl? Probably not, but there are about six QBs in the playoffs every year that don’t make the Pro Bowl.

Go Alex!!!!!!!!! Go Niners!!!!!!!!!!!! To the owners: GET THE CBA DONE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.

by OldJock on Jul 12, 2011 12:07 PM PDT reply actions

Issue with #5

How? The lockout disabled players ability to communicate with the coaches. There weren’t any organized team activities or mini-camps. Plus, this is his first year running the system.

It could be concluded that this is the worse knowledge of the offensive playbook he has had during his career. Now, I understand he got the playbook and had “Camp Alex”. But, that is much different than taking part in OTA’s and MC’s

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 12, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions

I taught high school for 34 years, and one thing I learned very, very well in doing so...

…is that you never understand anything so well as when you have to prepare yourself to teach it to others. On the day the lockout was lifted, Alex not only got a playbook from Harbaugh, but it is my understanding that he got a ton of other materials relating to installation of the offense. He not only took on the responsibility of organizing the two four-day “minicamps”, but he took on the responsibility of teaching as much of the offense as was possible to the rest of the offensive players. In order to teach it, I’m assuming that he prepared himself to do so, and thus his understanding of the offense, at least that part that he taught, will be far superior to that which he had entering any other season.

As for the OTAs and MCs prior to training camp in other seasons, those were conducted by coaches who were nearly incompetent, and I put absolutely NO faith into what those idiots were able to achieve during those times.

After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.

by OldJock on Jul 12, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs

I completely understand what you are talking about

I am just referencing the logistics. Not the talent of the coaching staff around. I am extremely excited that Smith took on the leadership role for San Francisco during the lockout. The same thing cannot be said about two other teams in the NFC West (names not to be mentioned)

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 12, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions

Peyton never had an offensive minded head coach either.

I don’t think it’s the head coach’s philosophy as much as having someone who can work with the quarterback and bring out the best in him. Also, having continuity and an offense that is tailored to his strengths is important, and Alex hasn’t had that luxury up to this point.

by SanFranciscoKnights on Jul 12, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions

He hasn't? Thats hard to say, especially sinve we know nothing of his strengths.

RLOTT#42

Yeah I said it, Craptree, and it is not a typo.....

Kaepernick is the lone quarterback in Division I history to pass for over 10,000 career yards and also rush for 4,000 yards.

by rlott#42 on Jul 12, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions

Peyton is his own coach. It's not a fair comparison.

Peyton Manning is a one of a kind QB/coordinator who doesn’t really factor into this sort of discussion. It would be more appropriate to compare the coaching strategies of the Patriots, the Packers, the Eagles, pretty much anyone besides the Colts.

by Rhombus on Jul 12, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions

How about the Ravens?

Jim Harbaugh’s brother John is not offensive-minded and yet Flacco has become quite a good QB after 3 years in the league.

by SanFranciscoKnights on Jul 12, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions

Same system

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by manraj7 on Jul 12, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions

Exactly.

I think having a viable NFL offensive system, and having a coach that can work with the QB is just as effective as having an “offensive-minded” head coach.

by SanFranciscoKnights on Jul 12, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions

What does that have to do with knowing what Alex Smith is good at?

Nothing at all.

RLOTT#42

Yeah I said it, Craptree, and it is not a typo.....

Kaepernick is the lone quarterback in Division I history to pass for over 10,000 career yards and also rush for 4,000 yards.

by rlott#42 on Jul 12, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions

No I don’t believe Alex has had any continuity when it comes to system, nor has he had a mentor who can actually teach him how to play the QB position since Norv Turner was around.

by SanFranciscoKnights on Jul 12, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions

2 years in a row is considered continuity although three would be better.

Regardless of system, without pressure he throws high, reads slow, or just does something idiotic with pressure.

RLOTT#42

Yeah I said it, Craptree, and it is not a typo.....

Kaepernick is the lone quarterback in Division I history to pass for over 10,000 career yards and also rush for 4,000 yards.

by rlott#42 on Jul 12, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions

Sing regime = crap on a stick

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 12, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

to put it kindly lol

by SanFranciscoKnights on Jul 12, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions

Has nothing to do with being accurate and using your progressions. Absolutely nothing, yeah he was mishandled in every sense of the word, but can we name a strength he possesses?

RLOTT#42

Yeah I said it, Craptree, and it is not a typo.....

Kaepernick is the lone quarterback in Division I history to pass for over 10,000 career yards and also rush for 4,000 yards.

by rlott#42 on Jul 12, 2011 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions

Agreed.

I think Alex will improve however with a coach who can work with him and a viable system of offense. Though I do believe Colin has superior tools and has a natural presence for the QB position, and will overtake Alex sooner rather than later.

by SanFranciscoKnights on Jul 12, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions

Nothing was consistent about the last two years except the faces in charge.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 12, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions

Smith and the offenses inability to score points.

RLOTT#42

Yeah I said it, Craptree, and it is not a typo.....

Kaepernick is the lone quarterback in Division I history to pass for over 10,000 career yards and also rush for 4,000 yards.

by rlott#42 on Jul 12, 2011 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions

One game last season (sorry I don't remember which one), while Jimmy Raye

was still the OC, I decided to keep track of the play calling. On 7 of the first 8 first downs of the game, if my memory serves correctly, Raye called THE SAME PLAY from THE SAME FORMATION (Gore off left guard). Granted that Iupati was the left guard, and was probably already considered our best run blocker, but a Pop Warner coach could defense that offense. Our offense definitely had an “inability to score points”, but what was the ROOT CAUSE of that? Jimmy Raye’s offensive play calling was, well, OFFENSIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.

by OldJock on Jul 12, 2011 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions

i do hope alex has a great season

mcarthy won the super bowl last year

& 4 mcarthy, norv turner, mike martz

after 6 years i hope he has gained something

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 12, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions

Alex starts because he’s played in the pros. CK7 has a better feel for the position. Across the body throw on the run with touch, an attempt would make smith shat himself.

RLOTT#42

Yeah I said it, Craptree, and it is not a typo.....

Kaepernick is the lone quarterback in Division I history to pass for over 10,000 career yards and also rush for 4,000 yards.

by rlott#42 on Jul 12, 2011 12:30 PM PDT reply actions

Smith to start

Harbs says competition but I have a feeling he’ll deem that CK7 isn’t quite ready at the start of the season. It’s going to be interesting to see how true to his word he is, as SMith is usually terrible in pre-season games. The only one I remember him being any good was the Vikings game last year. Kaepernick will likely have better stats, which will lead to everyone on here saying he should be starting, but he’ll also be playing against lesser competition.

by 9thevolution on Jul 12, 2011 12:41 PM PDT reply actions

Carr

The thing you have to remember about David Carr is this: anyone whose wife, when they come on to the field of play, feels the need to tweet the words “God help my David” should not be a starting quarterback in the NFL.

For anyone who thinks I’m joking, that actually did happen.

by LondonNiner on Jul 12, 2011 1:05 PM PDT reply actions

wow…bahahahaha

by mrg80 on Jul 12, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions

Our ace in the hole for the 2011 season: Carr's wife's God.

by Rhombus on Jul 12, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions

his wife should be a football scout, she spotted the only piece of his game missing to make Carr a star – divine intervention

by reedkrase on Jul 12, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions

Just another, perhaps not popular, opinion ...

My prediction of the Niners’ QB-related actions as soon as the new CBA allows:
1. Resign Alex Smith.
2. Sign Colin Kaepernick and Adam Froman.
3. Trade a lower-round draft choice(s) to Tampa Bay for Josh Johnson.
4. Release David Carr.

Following training camp, the QB roster for the first regular season game and beyond:

Alex Smith … starter throughout the season unless he is injured.
Josh Johnson … the Niners should not even entertain the idea for starting CK, under ANY circumstances, in his rookie year … unlike Alex, let him build some confidence before he’s thrown into the frey.
Colin Kaepernick … this will be a learning year for him; he will play a maximum or 50 plays during the regular season, running plays specifically designed for his present-level skills.

Practice Squad Adam Froman, IF he shows sufficient potential during training camp; else, no QB on PS

I agree with OldJock, and for the same reasons, that this may well be Alex Smith’s best year ever. If so, he will continue to be the Niners’ starting QB until Kaepernick is ready to start … IMO not before 2013.

by 49erFanSince1950 on Jul 12, 2011 2:28 PM PDT reply actions

Nice fantasy

but that is not reality …even from a financial stand.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 12, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions

36th overall picks are not often going to wind up 3rd on the depth charts at the QB position.

Harbaugh will not bring in any other quarterbacks.

It’s a fun exercise but its like riding the merry-go-round, you are just spinning wheels.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 12, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions

I'd rather have Jeff Van Camp than Froman too in the fantasy scenario.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 12, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions

Johnson over Kaep? Why would he make such a poor decision?

RLOTT#42

Yeah I said it, Craptree, and it is not a typo.....

Kaepernick is the lone quarterback in Division I history to pass for over 10,000 career yards and also rush for 4,000 yards.

by rlott#42 on Jul 12, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions

Dunno

Felt the same about that.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 12, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions

Well , since i'm late to this post 'll do it here ... YAY ALEX , START THE MAN ...!!

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!

by Edggy on Jul 12, 2011 4:29 PM PDT reply actions

I just love how some fans are saying to "sit Kaep" or "He needs time to develop"

Without seeing him take one snap in the NFL. Pretty frikin’ hilarious.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 12, 2011 5:02 PM PDT reply actions

I wouldnt start him day one but mid season after Alex flops get him in there

RLOTT#42

Yeah I said it, Craptree, and it is not a typo.....

Kaepernick is the lone quarterback in Division I history to pass for over 10,000 career yards and also rush for 4,000 yards.

by rlott#42 on Jul 12, 2011 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions

I think he has the mentally to be a great starter in the league, I dont feel like he will be overwhelmed in any situation

plus he has the ram it down your throat style ala Peyton Manning. I would have no problem with him starting day one if this offseason was like any other offseason but because it isnt I would be really hesitant to put out there day one because he hasnt had the team to get all the classroom time and the time with the coaches so that they could explain to him if he had any problems. I think Alex has done a great job teaching him but there is only so much he can do and he cant replace Coach Harbaugh & Coach Roman since they were the one who put the playbook together

Thats just my opinion

by Lok on Jul 12, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions

why Froman over Devlin as a 4th qb?

Because he is local? Devlin seems like a good match in a west coast offense.

by wtlichens on Jul 12, 2011 7:19 PM PDT via mobile reply actions

Froman

It seems like the buzz is all about Froman at this point. I’ll look for more on it.

by David Fucillo on Jul 13, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions

11 votes for David Carr????

11 more then i predicted

Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.

I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.

by NewAgecorner1 on Jul 12, 2011 8:20 PM PDT reply actions

If they start anybody (barring injury) but AS in week 1...

we’re in trouble. JH will run the risk of dividing his team by putting a rookie in that clearly won’t beat out AS “outright” before the season. AS has beaten out every other QB during camp because he’s a consummate professional that knows what is expected of him. The guys on the team are well aware of who’s deserving of being their leader. If a rookie is to start, its best if he’s picked after the more experienced starter is hurt or ineffective to make sure the team views it as a fair and necessary alternative. With that being said, I believe that Kaep can do well if called upon early…sumthin i just feel in my gut when i see him speak and carry himself.

Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.

I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.

by NewAgecorner1 on Jul 12, 2011 9:06 PM PDT reply actions

This is a Kaepernick video I really like, for anyone interested.

This was his first start as a freshman at Nevada, which happened to be against Boise State. The announcer says that Boise’s defense was ranked third in the nation at the time. I love the second play of the vid where Colin zips a pass across his body on target 15 yards down field. There is also a part two which shows the second half. Colin had a real babyface back then lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BCJeBchzPA

by SanFranciscoKnights on Jul 12, 2011 10:04 PM PDT reply actions

Damn!!!

23 of 36 for 384 4 tds no pics in his first ever collegiate start (vs Fresno State)? The more I find out about this guy the more i marvel at how any of the other qbs that came out this year were ranked ahead of him.

Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.

I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.

by NewAgecorner1 on Jul 13, 2011 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions

correction, that wasn't a start...he came on to relieve the starter in that game.

Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.

I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.

by NewAgecorner1 on Jul 13, 2011 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions

Yeah I know man, impressive stuff.

It makes me feel that much luckier that we got him as the 6th QB taken in the draft. I mean, the Vikings easily could have taken him at 12 instead of Ponder, and then they would actually be a dangerous team.

by SanFranciscoKnights on Jul 13, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions