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Questions Facing The 2011 49ers: Continued Progression From Mike Iupati And Anthony Davis?

As the lockout nears its final stages we can expect to have a flurry of roster moves and activities leading up to the 49ers first pre-season game. So, over the course of the next few days I am going to focus on questions that face our San Francisco 49ers heading into training camp. 

Today I am going to concentrate on the 49ers two 1st round picks from the 2010 draft, Anthony Davis and Mike Iupati. I am going to look into whether or not we can see continued progression from each offensive linemen and what to expect in their second seasons. 

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Bill Barnwell wrote an article on the website "Grantland", which focused on the 25 least valuable players in the National Football League. In that article he suggested that Anthony Davis was the third least valuable player in the league. Here is little bit of that article as it relates to Anthony Davis.

The hope was that Davis would be able to contribute as a right tackle in 2010 before shoring up his pass-protection skills and eventually moving to left tackle. Instead, Davis showed up to camp out of shape and couldn't handle speed rushers all year.

Well, this is a little bit contradictory in my opinion. Anthony Davis was extremely solid in the run game; San Francisco averaged over five yards per carry running to his side. His major issue was in penalties and lack of pass protection. Two things that you expect from a rookie offensive tackle. Very few rookies are able to handle the quarterbacks blindside immediately, it doesn't say anything about Davis' ability to improve those skills moving forward. 

Tackle has to be considered one of the most difficult positions in the NFL for a rookie to transition to college. You are expected to maintain your balance and timing, while focusing on both pass rushers on passing players and interior linebackers on rushing plays. The transition of even more magnified due to the different defensive sets you see in the NFL compared to college. You have to know exactly when the ball is going to be snapped and in what direction the play is going to go. It isn't an exact science, but difficult nonetheless. 

The 49ers offensive line did allow 45 sacks and 85 quarterback hits in 2010, both ranking them near the bottom of the league. Anthony Davis as the right tackle played an integral role in both statistics.

Too many times I noticed that Anthony Davis had issues with speed rushers on the outside. He didn't keep his balance well and was unable to anticipate the defenders move. You need to be able to expect how a player is going to line up against you and where he is going to go with his initial move. Without that you are going to be kept off balance and be unable to prevent him from getting into the offensive backfield. 

Those are issues that can be fixed with experience, maturity and coaching. Most offensive linemen have issues with that early in their career. Michael Oher and Russell Okung come to mind first; both of whom are going to be perennial all-pro performers before all is said and done. 

Daivs progressed a great deal in regards to his as the season went on in 2010. He was able to find better balance and anticipation, while maintaining solid footwork. You are going to hear people talk about his performance against Chris Long, but that wasn't a fair match up in the first place. San Francisco didn't scheme to defend Long too well in that game. They didn't rotate linemen over in double coverage and most of the time Adams was left to fend for himself. A rookie tackle going one on one against an elite pass rusher usually leads to a lot of issues. 

Another facet of Davis' 2010 performance was coaching. Mike Singletary and the offensive line coaches focused a lot on rush blocking with Davis leading up to and during the season. They decided it was better for him to completely grasp one area of the game instead of focusing on improving all aspects. This is fine and dandy when you are talking about an interior linemen, but it doesn't work well when the player is going up against rushers on the outside. It was one of many critical mistakes by the coaching staff in 2010. 

I am not making up excuses for Anthony Davis, rather I am focusing on what should be relatively obvious to football insiders and scouts alike. Offensive tackles are going to struggle with pass protection there rookie season, there really isn't any way to avoid that; even Orlando Pace has issues. 

I really liked the way Davis progressed during his rookie season and believe that coaching will enable him to hone his skills in the pass protection aspect. Tom Drevno and Mike Solari will make that a major focus during training camp as well. There is no reason to believe that he will not get a lot better in pass protection this season. 

Pro Football Focus ran an article yesterday that ranked each teams offensive line. Surprisingly, they had the 49ers offensive line ranked as the 11th best in the entire NFL. According to the article they are the 6th best unit in rushing. A lot of this had to do with the performance of Mike Iupati, who dazzled observers with his play as a rookie.

Iupati came in immediately and looked like a veteran. He did have some penalty and balance issues early on, but those were quickly fixed. I could conclude that he had the best rookie season of any guard since Logan Mankins in 2005; this is how good Iupati was last season.

He is an absolute beast up the middle and recognizes schemes as well as a seasoned 10 year veteran. There is no doubt in my mind that Iupati should have been selected to the Pro Bowl in 2010, but as we all know, that selection process is more of a popularity contest than anything else. Also, there is stiff competition in regards to the guard position in the NFC. 

Iupati does need to work on pass protection a bit. According to Pro Football Focus he allowed 21 quarterback pressures, which was among the leagues worse in regards to guards. Some of that may have to do with 49er quarterbacks not getting rid of the ball quick enough and holding in the pocket to long. You usually don't see the pocket collapse directly from the inside. Instead, the collapse is more of an umbrella with the exterior pass rusher taking the lead. 

One thing stood out to be in watching game film on Iupati. He has a knack for filling lanes up the middle and opening up holes. However, he does lack in terms of initial recognition of stunt moves etc... Those are things that can be taught and improve over time. 

 

Final Analysis: You are going to have growing pains when it comes to starting two rookie offensive linemen, that is pretty much guaranteed. I did love the way each player progressed during the 2010 season. Anthony Davis more so because he was starting from a point of disadvantage compared to Mike Iupati, who was much more seasoned coming out of college. 

Both players have incredibly high ceilings and I think it is safe to say that the term "bust" will not be associated with either player moving forward. Some "experts", Bill Barnwell included, have no idea the transition an offensive linemen must make from college to the pros. Instead, they focus a lot on negative numbers and certain evaluating systems in terms of judging a player. It seems impossible for me to understand how you could label a rookie offensive linemen as one of the "least valuable" players in the league. I am sure I can come up with dozens of tackles who didn't perform to the level of Anthony Davis in 2010. 

Moving forward, a lot of their progression is going to have to do with work ethic, learning new moves, and coaching. I am confident that each player has the drive and talent to succeed in the NFL. I fully expect Mike Iupati to be a Pro Bowl performer in 2011 and build off an extremely solid rookie season. If he fixes a couple of the issues I mentioned above there is no reason he cannot be a reason why San Francisco is among the league leaders in rushing. 

Anthony Davis, on the other hand, has some more work to do. The lockout severely limited his growth process. He was unable to work with San Francisco 49er coaches and that is going to hurt a lot. However, if we are able to get a full training camp session in I have not doubt that he will pick up the necessary tools from the 49er coaching staff to continue the progression we saw during the 2010 season.

Statistics From 2010 Season, according to Pro Football Focus 

Anthony Davis
Penalties: 10
Sacks Allowed: 11
QB Hits Allowed: 11
QB Pressures Allowed: 37

Mike Iupati

Penalties: 4
Sacks Allowed: 2
QB Hits Allowed: 6
QB Pressures Allowed: 21

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by mrg80 on Jul 14, 2011 10:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Pro Bowl

it is an incredible stretch to believe Davis will be a Pro Bowl performer in 2011, that is why he isn’t included in the poll

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 14, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Guess I misread, thought it asked if they will make the pro bowl

by mrg80 on Jul 14, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could have sworn Davis had more penalties than that. Seemed like I was always yelling at him for that. I did however forgive him later since he was a rookie. Hope to see him improve greatly this season.

by Chefantone on Jul 14, 2011 10:29 AM PDT reply actions  

From what I remember

He was sold in home games. His multi-penalty games were on the road and usually under high pressure passing situations when the 49ers were about to get swept under the carpet, probably heightening your awareness.

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by bignerd on Jul 14, 2011 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Iupati cost us a game......

I like Iupati, but observed some plays that really iritated me just as much as Davis. They both need to work, not just Davis. Anthony Davis played a much harder position and I don’t think Iupati would have fared any better or even played much worse at the RT position.

Can’t remember who we played, but the 49ers were at the 1 or 2 yard line and they needed a TD to win at the end of a game. Iupati bull rushed his guy and whiffed badly and the guy stuffed Gore for a loss and we lost. So I don’t see Iupati as the Golden child just yet. He played great at times last year and think he has the pot. to go to the Pro Bowl.

Besides, the guy said he came to camp last year over weight…not so true, and he has transformed fat into muscle this year.

by ericalancanty on Jul 14, 2011 10:42 AM PDT reply actions  

Completely agree with Davis

He wasn’t out of shape heading into the 2010 season and has been extremely proactive in building muscle mass.

Offensive linemen, no matter which position they play, are going to struggle during their rookie season. We saw that struggle a little bit with Iupati and he needs to take care of those weaknesses. However, Davis’ struggles were much more apparent to me.

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 14, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

the run up the middle

My favorite play last year.

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by EcERyda69 on Jul 14, 2011 1:12 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Are you saying starting a rookie cost the team a win ...

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by bignerd on Jul 14, 2011 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Iupati probowl this year Davis probowl the year after that.

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by manraj7 on Jul 14, 2011 10:45 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I don't think Iupati makes the pro bowl....

Like was said, it’s a popularity contest and I just don’t see him becoming that popular unless he really steps it up to where he’s clearly, without a doubt, the best guard in the entire league, I doubt he gets the recognition this year.

The following year, I think it’s a no-brainer.

by 9thevolution on Jul 14, 2011 10:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Iupati will make it this year, and if not, the next.

I think Davis could get benched if someone else out performs him in the preseason. Or even during the season. It wasn’t Harbaugh’s pick.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 11:03 AM PDT reply actions  

But, it was a 1st round pick

and Davis hasn’t shown the regression that deserves benching. He is coming into camp in tip top shape, has two great offensive line coaches working with him, and has all the athletic ability in the world.

As much as you may be pessimistic I am optimistic. He will progress a great deal in 2011 and by the end of the year be an above average tackle in the NFL. Mark my words!

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 14, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

He hasn't shown progression either.

His pass protection is among the worst in the league and it did not improve because he has horrible lateral movement. I said this before we drafted him. I am not sure it is correctable because he is slow in that matter. You cannot fix slow… even with technique.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well

Mocking The Draft on Michael Oher

Hand usage is Oher’s biggest weakness. He is a player who doesn’t get his hands up fast enough at times, allowing speed rushers to beat him on the edge. He’ll also grab at an opponent’s shoulders and get called for holding penalties. Will sometimes lunge at an end in pass protection instead of absorbing the blitz. Needs to consistently play with a high effort.

That hasn’t seemed to be much of a problem for Oher since joining the Baltimore Ravens.

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 14, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not comparing the two

I was comparing what you were saying about Davis and what Mocking The Draft said about Oher heading into the 2009 draft.

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 14, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oher is quick on his feet laterally.

That is why he was able to correct those problems with technique taught in the NFL.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apples to Oranges comparison.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

Mocking the Draft on Oher

He is a player who doesn’t get his hands up fast enough at times, allowing speed rushers to beat him on the edge. He’ll also grab at an opponent’s shoulders and get called for holding penalties

You on Davis

His pass protection is among the worst in the league and it did not improve because he has horrible lateral movement. I said this before we drafted him. I am not sure it is correctable because he is slow in that matter. You cannot fix slow… even with technique.

Sounds similar to me

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 14, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think

Oher fixed “slow”

It can have a lot to do with technique and recognition

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 14, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

Where does it say in there that Oher has bad lateral movement?

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

You said
You cannot fix slow… even with technique.

Apparently Oher did. That is the point I am attempting to make

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 14, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let’s try this one last time…

OHER. WAS. NOT. SLOW.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

He had a very raw technique coming out of Ole Miss

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

you tend to disagree with some of the “experts” heading into the 2009 draft.

He is a player who doesn’t get his hands up fast enough at times, allowing speed rushers to beat him on the edge.

Not fast enough=slow

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 14, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you confusing “hands” with “feet”

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you confusing

slow with slow?

And, a lot of the issues in terms of Davis’ feet has to do with technique and recognition. If you don’t recognize the stunt moves or where the defender is going you are going to be slow.

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 14, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

But I digress

we are both hard headed when it comes to our opinion, so there really isn’t going to be much of a resolution here.

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 14, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

What?

That does not even make sense.

There is a clear difference between slow on your feet and getting your hands up and moving defenders around. Very clear difference. I don’t understand how you can be lost between the two.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know there is a way to make yourself move faster

Olympic runners don’t wake up on game day put on their awesome running clothes and sprint the 100.

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by manraj7 on Jul 14, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

so thats the secret

I thought it was a lifetime of training.

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by manraj7 on Jul 14, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

So what are you saying?

Anthony Davis should re-think his profession and become a world class sprinter?

He may have a better shot than playing RT in the NFL, haha

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno about that

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by manraj7 on Jul 14, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s fine as long as he is plowing straight ahead. Steam roller…

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

This isn’t even an Apples to Oranges comparison. It’s more like a Apples to Peanuts comparison.

Anthony Davis has been training to play football his entire life and he has troubles with PHYSICALLY moving sideways.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not confusing the two

I have no idea why you think I am

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 14, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

ok.

writing is on the wall

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you saying

that being slow on your feet doesn’t have a single thing to do with schematic awareness or anticipation?

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 14, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

His problems have nothing to do with a scheme, a formation, or awareness.

It has everything to do with his physical limitation. I really do not know how to phrase it any differently for you to grasp.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is where the “argument” is centered because I think it does have a lot more to do with scheme and awareness then physical limitations.

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 14, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Physical limitations are a problem at the NFL level.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not so much at the NCAA level.

Its a reason why any certain college player can dominate in college and be completely exposed and out of his element at the next level.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

More confusing defensive schemes

also affect the ability of a young offensive linemen to succeed in the NFL.

I don’t see it as much as physical limitations as it is inexperience and relative confusion in scheme

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 14, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well that's your view.

I think he is too slow laterally for the speed of the NFL. I think it was pretty evident last year. Is it possible that he gets better with years? Sure… just don’t see it being enough due to physical limitation.

We aren’t going to convince either… time will tell. He won’t have long if he doesn’t make dramatic strides really, really fast.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I find this amusing…gotta side with Drew on this one

by mrg80 on Jul 14, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think its more of a balance issue vs a speed issue which causes him to get beat

the trick with tackles is keeping their balance and a sturdy base in case the rusher goes for speed or bull rushes or some other type of move. Its almost like trying to tackle a runner in the open field…good balance can prevent your ankles from being broken. As he drops, he usually puts himself in a position balance wise where a handfull of different rush moves would beat him especially since he tends to anticipate instead of reacting. A good DE would set him up nicely to get beaten by all different types of moves. I bet his coaching points on almost every play are: too high, bending at waist not knees, get off your heels and onto your toes, base too wide/narrow.

Some Martial arts or boxing training should help his feet.

Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.

I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.

by NewAgecorner1 on Jul 14, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

If im not mistaken Mike Mayock’s biggest criticism of Davis was he tended to play high and bent at the waist instead of his hips. This seems to hold true when watching him last season.

by Mukkeluk on Jul 14, 2011 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought he played much better later in the season

by Andrew9erfan on Jul 14, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Much better in to comparison to what? God awful? … I suppose.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can't agree...

I think you will be pleasantly surprised with Davis’ play this upcoming season. Davis handled Long better than anyone did this season in the second game against the Rams (except for one play), especially after he had such a poor performance in the first game against the Rams.

In my opinion, there were a number of reasons that contributed to a less than stellar start to his career, which were:
1) On a large majority of plays, he recieved no help.
2) Inconsistent play at the RG position.
3) No continuity on the line, especially at the RG position. (New C who never played the position at an NFL level before, who is critical for communication and development of rookie O-lineman; another rookie on the line; Staley got injured)
4) Rookie, only 21, when he entered the league. It was well known pre-draft that he was pretty raw, and needed time to adapt to the NFL.
5) The tackle position is the hardest to transition from college, especially for a junior.
6) Most rookie lineman struggle against speed rushers – he can hopefully improve his movement.

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by teekay on Jul 14, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Long? Long is slow too... it is exactly the type of competition he faced at Rutgers.

The faster NFL players are going to beat him every. single. time.

I hope that I am pleasantly surprised and he magically gets faster on his feet… all I am saying is that I will not hold my breath. If he keeps playing close to the same way he has played (even toward the end of the year) we will most likely see someone take his job from him.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

How highly did you rate Anthony Davis pre-draft?

Did you have him as your third best tackle? I certainly had him rated higher than Bulaga, and the third best tackle in that talented draft class, behind Okung and Williams. I thought he had the second highest, if not the highest, ceiling of all the tackles, and still believe so. I honestly think with the right coaching, one can improve Davis’ lateral movement and balance – so as to seem ‘quicker’ and be more effective. He definitely has all the tools to be successful in my opinion.

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by teekay on Jul 14, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

For me...

I cannot remember my exact ratings… but it was probably close to this:

Okung
Bulaga
Saffold
Campbell
Davis

I don’t remember exactly… but Davis was never starter material for me. Developmental at best.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had him above Trent Williams, I think that is it.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agree

The other impression I get of Davis is this; while not ideally fast in terms of lateral movement, I get the impression he’s an intelligent guy, and will learn from experience. He improved a lot in round two against Long because he had figured some things out about him, and was able to anticipate.

As to Drew’s point: We get it. You think AD is never going to pan out because he has slow feet by NFL standards. He probably does, and you can only coach that up so much. However, there are a LOT of good players in the NFL who keep playing long after they’ve lost their speed, and are able to compensate for a lot of it by smarts, recognition, etc. The game moves so fast that you’re better off having excellent anticipation and average speed than the other way around…

 As long as Davis has most of the physical tools necessary (which he does), and works hard, I see no reason why he can’t turn out to be a very solid right tackle in this league.

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by lottwasgangsta on Jul 14, 2011 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

However, there are a LOT of good players in the NFL who keep playing long after they’ve lost their speed, and are able to compensate for a lot of it by smarts

Like Nate Clements?

I agree that is relatively true with certain positions… like quarterback, and some of the larger receivers, tight ends, etc… but not true for every position. If Davis is slow at 21, how long does that put his career at if what you are proclaiming pans out?

I think they need to bring in a guy like they did in Pashos to push his hind parts for that job.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

23 yr-old defensive end vs. 32 year old mediocre left or right tackle… I mean, I know who I would put my money on.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agree that position matters

But if you want offensive lineman who were great long after they lost speed, Bruce Matthews. If you want tackles, Kirk Scrafford, and he wasn’t even fast to begin with

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by lottwasgangsta on Jul 15, 2011 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

He was flagged for coming off the ball on false starts and he really just had an extremely quick first step.

Benched this year? For Who? He still was better than Snyder and still has a higher ceiling than Staley, whom I may add is not getting any better and constantly his bull rushed and beat, and you don’t nag on him much. You form grudges and have always disliked the pick. Harbaugh’s pick or not he was just drafted last year and what he does for Gore won’t be duplicated by “any” lineman on the roster.

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by rlott#42 on Jul 14, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope he succeeds, I really do. I hope every Niner succeeds.

I just have to keep it real here lott, I just can’t see it with Davis.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I second that

Once people make up their mind on something, they collect evidence to suit their beliefs, not the other way around, unfortunately.

My prediction: Iupati: Elite
AD: Solid, may have a season or two as a Pro Bowl alternate.

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by lottwasgangsta on Jul 14, 2011 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Drew..cmon, he didnt play that bad

now if a 7th yr player put forth an effort like that (plenty have), then yeah…i would consider it an awfull performance. He played aight for a rookie who was supposed to still be in college.

I do think it was a combination of lateral agility and balance along w/ slow recognition and lack of decisiveness. Maybe he was thinking too much out there which is also expected from such a young guy. Either way, he can only get better…if he hired a quality trainer (instead of a Rutgers buddy) then his agility should be greatly improved, which in turn should help his confidence.

Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.

I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.

by NewAgecorner1 on Jul 14, 2011 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am not saying he will be Kwame Harris (God spare us all) but it was Harris’ problem as well. He just for the life of him could not go east and west very well.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

We’re talking about the NFL, not NCAA where you may have a point.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

So

what your saying what can be fixed in college cannot be fixed in the NFL? That really doesn’t make much sense man.

No matter the level of competition if you are able to teach young players certain techniques to teenagers I am sure you are able to teach them to 21-22 year olds

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 14, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your attitude is not appreciated Drew!!

Is it possible for you to make a point without as edggy said “not being patronizing”.

Stop acting like you are the end all know all when it comes to it. We are attempting to have a civilized debate on the issues.

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 14, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sorry.

Just frustrating when people don’t grasp a simple point I am trying to make. No offense…

I am not the end all, be all but it doesn’t mean I am not making solid or factual statements… I’m saying something very simple which is not of opinion. He struggled with his speed moving side to side. You cannot hide that.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think that is the argument to be honest

We are saying that this can be fixed in time, not that it doesn’t exist. You believe it is a physical limitation while others, including myself, seem to think that there are other factors surrounding it.

We will see this season because Davis needs to improve and progress as a player in year two. I think we can all agree on that.

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 14, 2011 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Disagree

Good coaching can do a ton for a player’s development.,

Yes, Davis looks slow moving laterally. That said, Bruce Campbell has all the physical tools, but has bust written all over him. Let me know when he becomes a Pro Bowler

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by lottwasgangsta on Jul 14, 2011 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, but bad comparison...

Campbell was a 4th round pick, I beleive. Being a career back up is just fine and not costing much.

That said, I’m not argueing one way or another about how Davis’ career path will go.

by 9thevolution on Jul 15, 2011 6:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with you

But my point was that Drew rated Campbell higher pre-draft (because he moves quickly laterally?) but that obviously, the consensus was that Davis was the better pick. That’s why I drew the comparison.

The point I was trying to make was that being a good football player involves a lot of different abilities; being lacking in one area doesn’t mean you can’t still be quite good.

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by lottwasgangsta on Jul 15, 2011 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

While I agree Davis could be on a relatively short leash

I think Rachal is on an even shorter one.

I don’t think anyone, fans or coaches, has any allegiances to these guys. If it ends up Synder and Boone or whatever.. people just want consistency.

My big concern last year was Rachal’s amazing ability to simply whiff on blocks next to a rookie RT, and the fears were realized with how many guys were simply unblocked coming through the right side because of visible delays coming out of the snap with who they were actually supposed to pick up.

Really hope that can just get that cleared up first.

by whistlingmountain on Jul 14, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well I am hoping we find a center in free agency once it opens up so we can put Baas at the RG position

The RT spot is really shakey heading in to 2011. Davis could potentially regress in a different offense with different blocking schemes.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was reading an article somwhere

where the writer said Rachal was our best offensive linemen last season. This goes to what I was talking about in regards to “so-called experts”. Rachal has regressed a great deal since he came on strong in 2009.

I think that re-signing Baas to play guard and getting a quality center in free agency (a lot of them available), is a real possibility for San Francisco; never really thought about that

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 14, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I personally think Rachal is good, and is extremely underrated.

If he improves his concentration and stops getting beat inside on occasional plays, he has all the tools to be a dominant guard. In fact, he has all the tools to be as good as Iupati can be imo. He has been outstanding in opening holes the last couple seasons. Needs to improve in pass protection though

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by teekay on Jul 14, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

i agree, concentration was def his issue

and thats one of the easiest things to fix

Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.

I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.

by NewAgecorner1 on Jul 14, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that might be overstating it

And that’s not a knock on Rachal; I think, physically, he could be special.

But, even as a rookie, I saw a couple plays last season where Iupati cleared out dudes in front of him who weighed at least 260 like they weren’t even there, and though “damn, even in the NFL, that guy’s a beast”. Hulk Smash, etc.

But, your essential point, with regard to concentration, is valid. Not sure what Chilo’s deal is, but somebody needs to fix it…too much talent for him to be so remarkably inconsistent.

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by lottwasgangsta on Jul 14, 2011 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah

It said “run blocking” offensive linemen. It was a “secret superstars” article from PFF if I recall correctly, and even it blasted him for being a complete liability in pass protection.

by Ougadas on Jul 15, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which was heavily influenced with the 3 yards and a cloud of dust mentality.

Baalke has to draft for the style of offense and defense. You can’t just pick any ol’ guy. He has to fit. Davis is a steam roller in the run game. We all saw that but he is a big liability in the pass game. He cannot hold his blocks which in turn allows defenses to blitz more and stay in the box and hit the offense in the mouth.

It all starts in the trenches and any weakness in an offensive line WILL BE attacked and exposed like it was consistently all year long with Davis and his pass-pro.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can I ask you a question?

What did you think of J. Rice in his rookie year?

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by L. J on Jul 14, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

What does that have to do with Anthony Davis?

I thought Jerry had a lot of work to do but had the tools to get it done.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eventually… he worked harder than anyone else in that offseason between his first and second years and the work ethic because an addictive habit for him and it’s the reason he wound up as the G.O.A.T.

Are you implying that you thing Anthony Davis is going to be the best offensive tackle to ever play?

If not, you really lost me with the question.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 14, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

You speak of tools

like it’s the only thing a player (any player, any position) brings to the table. There is a thing called heart! If a person wants it bad enough he will achieve it. That goes for any sport. "Your to short to play in collage never-the-less the NBA Mr. Spud Web. Your to short to be an MLB MR. Singletary. HEART!! If I want it baaad enough, dam that tool I didn’t have! I’ll make my own tool!! H-E-A-R-T!!!!

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by L. J on Jul 14, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

ummm

You need more than just desire. Yes Spud Webb might have been short, but he had a lot of physical tools most people don’t have. Let’s not pretend certain players are great simply because they have “heart.”

by David Fucillo on Jul 14, 2011 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Evander Holyfield said something brilliant about heart once

He was getting interviewed, and the reporter was talking about how much heart he has, and what an incredibly boxer it made him, and Holyfield said, essentially, “yeah, I have a lot of heart, but I’m also an incredible boxer…show me a dude who’s all heart, and I’ll show you someone lying on the canvas”. Great point

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by lottwasgangsta on Jul 14, 2011 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is a balance

VD would have never broken through his early struggles if it wasn’t for his heart and desire. Jamarcus Russell wouldn’t have flushed out if he had any heart.

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by bignerd on Jul 14, 2011 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

I think Holyfield just wanted to be recognized for both. VD is a great example; all the physical tools you could want for the position, but his first few seasons were frustrating because it looked like such wasted potential until he put it all together.

Also yes on JaMarcus; had that dude had any serious work ethic or interest in being an NFL quarterback, he’d be one, instead of a joke

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by lottwasgangsta on Jul 14, 2011 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

So you aren't a Tom Brady fan?

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by bignerd on Jul 14, 2011 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am confused

You clearly know your football in a lot of realms, and some of your critiques on Davis are valid in terms of physical stuff that’s only so changeable, but don’t you think it’s WAY too early to draw conclusions about a rookie starter on a shaky line?

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by lottwasgangsta on Jul 14, 2011 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Excellent write up

No one, repeat no one knows better than these two youngsters how they stacked up – or did not for that matter – when it came to their play. They have pride and a very, very high upside. They will do fine this year. Again, people tend to forget that Harbaugh and company have had little else to do but study this team inside out, forward and backward for weeks now. No aspect of the teams strengths or weakness have not gone under a microscope – repeatedly.

by ninernutt on Jul 14, 2011 12:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Barnwell lost me with this one

Poor analysis of Davis. Davis was 20 last season and not ready for NFL speed. Sims should have started IMO while Davis should have been coached up during the season. Typical of Sing’s dumb moves — completely unconcerned as to how QB play would be affected by starting two rookies. FO correctly predicted the 6-10 season based primarily on the inexperienced O-Line.

Good write-up by nocal. Both Davis and Iupati will show significant improvement this season not only because their techniques will improve, but also because they will gain in confidence, now that the Niners offense would not be telegraphing their plays in advance,

by Mood_Indigo on Jul 14, 2011 12:23 PM PDT reply actions  

I will have a write up later about Taylor Mays and the coaching or lack thereof last season

The same goes to Anthony Davis. The coaching staff spent entirely too much time addressing what was a strength, his run blocking, and didn’t focus on pass blocking. As an exterior offensive linemen, Davis’ main duty is to protect the QB on passing plays, and they didn’t focus enough on that. 20 year old with limited schematic experience is going to struggle in his rookie season, especially with bad coaching

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 14, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

In Sing's defense...

going into last season we weren’t actually planning on passing… ever. So concentrating on the young man’s run blocking made perfect sense. LOL

by Sigelvictory on Jul 14, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

not to mention, the kid cant learn everything in one camp

maybe he wasnt grasping the passing aspect and it was decided to start slow as far as teaching. He is a project and i don’t see anything wrong with teaching the position in increments.

Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.

I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.

by NewAgecorner1 on Jul 14, 2011 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

But

I think pass protection should have been first and foremost in those teachings because he is a tackle not a guard.

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 14, 2011 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

makes sense

Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.

I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.

by NewAgecorner1 on Jul 14, 2011 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup

Ask the Pro Bowl roster from the last decade about the coaches they had during their first few seasons in the league; bet any amount that 9 times out of 10, they’ll talk about how much better that person made ’em

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by lottwasgangsta on Jul 14, 2011 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Between games

Most offensive coordinators and head coaches are spending the lions share of their time working on pass protection. Not fundamentals necessarily, but how you are going to scheme to take away the pass rush and give your QB a chance to attack the weaknesses in the secondary.

If you can’t do that you are one dimensional and you soon see 8 in the box and alot of playing time for your punting unit.

Run blocking isn’t that complicated because you are dictating the point of attack, not reacting to multiple feints, stunts, and delayed blitzes. The biggest thing schematically you do is identify which run packages will work best against the formations the opponent most likes to run. Although I’m not sure we did much of that either given how much we ran it up the gut when the other team was stacked and waiting on it.

To spend that much time working on the run when you are just going to pound it between the guards most of the time — that’s just incompetent.

I have my opinions on last years performance for most all our linemen, but I think I’ll reserve judgement for another year.

by Ougadas on Jul 15, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

To start 2 rookie O lineman and have our best OL go down early

i think we were pretty decent last year. As for a rookie starting at tacle, hell yeah its gonna be tough….imagine going up against some of the beast DEs in the league each week. DE’s are some of the most explosive athletes in the world.

Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.

I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.

by NewAgecorner1 on Jul 14, 2011 5:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Decent is a strong word

I think we were offensively putrid, but that it was mostly understandable, given the circumstances. Decent implies that we didn’t look awful for large stretches of time.

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by lottwasgangsta on Jul 14, 2011 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

damn, Putrid is an even stronger word.

I mean i understand what you’re saying, its just that I’m partial to our guys. We didn’t wow anybody w/ our offensive execution but we looked decent at times. I think we werent that far off from being a good offense considering our youth up front and the play calling. For us to be competing in most of our games w/ that play calling says something.

Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.

I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.

by NewAgecorner1 on Jul 14, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're right

Putrid is overstating it. I just remember it a couple games where we were so out of sync, it just didn’t even look professional. At other times, we flashed potential. I think I’m just disappointed with the season.

I am, however, partial about the future. Hope springs eternal, etc.

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by lottwasgangsta on Jul 15, 2011 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, i remember the anger and grief (almost tears) from last year...depressing.

Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.

I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.

by NewAgecorner1 on Jul 15, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet some martial arts training would greatly help Davis' footwork

in fact im an advocate for martial arts training for every athlete

Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.

I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.

by NewAgecorner1 on Jul 14, 2011 5:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Actually Ballet and Boxing translate better even dancing ( not the just shake your booty type ) ....

…. the learning curve for the men upfront really starts in the NFL , there not a ton of transfer from college , everything Davis lacks as of now can easily be fixed , he’s twenty and is 4 to 6 yrs away from being a fully matured male … Speed Quickness& balance are all easy fixes, there may be one that disputes this but he has no clue …!!

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by Edggy on Jul 14, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

ballet, boxing, martial arts...

relatively the same in regards to balance. Ballet may focus more on endurance as far as your stabilizing muscles used in balancing your body weight due to the slower, more gradual nature of ballet. Martial arts and boxing would translate (IMHO) because the intensity and speed of balancing your body is closer to that of football.

I would recommend ballet first though as a starting block…i think in order to learn how to balance your movements, you have to first learn to keep your balance standing still or w/ liitle movement.

 its just hard to get a 300 plus man interested in ballet.

I should add, that this is an OPINION that was formed thru my experience as a martial artis, a football player, and an exercise science major.

Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.

I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.

by NewAgecorner1 on Jul 14, 2011 6:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Judo, or Jiu Jitsu.

Something like that I would think would benefit all linemen. O & D. I agree with you NAc1.

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by L. J on Jul 14, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

True

But I wouldn’t laugh at Anthony Davis in a tutu. At least not while we were in the same room. Def agree on the martial arts angle, and it helping for a lot of things. Back in the 90’s when they were great, the Niners had a lot of players who were into martial arts, yoga, etc. Worked for them

And, while I bet he’d look damn strange, Barry Sanders would have made a terrific ballerina. Still glad he chose football though

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by lottwasgangsta on Jul 14, 2011 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I miss Barry so much

Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.

I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.

by NewAgecorner1 on Jul 14, 2011 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seconded

The only other player of that era who was arguably as great as Montana or Rice; dude played football like it was a video game that only he had the cheat code to.

I remember seeing John Lynch get interviewed one time, and they asked him if there was anybody he ever played against who made his Buccaneers defense feel inferior, and he got this sad look on his face and said “….Barry Sanders”. I suspect he’d be the first answer for most any defender of that era.

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by lottwasgangsta on Jul 16, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t understand the panic on Anthony Davis. He was rookie RT who many felt left college one year too early and was put out on the island the entire season by the 49ers coaching staff. He was no position to shine early. It was a complete trial by fire and he came out of it unscathed. Reportedly he even hired to personal trainer in the offseason to stay in shape which was always the critical worry.

The 49ers offensive line numbers were similar to the year prior which I see as a real victory considering they started two rookies, lost their best offensive lineman who happened to be their captain/center along with losing Staley at left tackle for half the season. Easily the unit could have crumbled (see the Packers the year prior).

Despite the similar stats I thought the past year’s offensive line was much better. One significant problem I have with offensive line stats is they only count the mistakes, not to mention the offensive line can get docked when other make those mistakes. Davis was so much better than Synder. It was a 2 alligator count with Snyder at RT. Davis made a number of bad plays but his played mostly solid, unlike the constant faucet leak that was Snyder.

Although the offensive line sack numbers aren’t impressive apart of the blame has to go to the 49ers QBs. Both Smiths have/had their issues. Troy would hold the ball indefinitely, even for 6 seconds on designed 3 step drops. Alex still has this mind numbing habit of rolling right once a game into the blocked DE’s arms although the pocket is perfectly secure. He’d also hang onto the ball with nowhere to go on designed 3 step drops. The 49ers line isn’t perfect but their QBs made their sack numbers 25-30% worse.

Yes, I love the Chris Long backlash. When Anthony Davis is getting abused some teams Parys Haralson I will start to worry. Chris Long is a good player, he will probably make a Pro Bowl in the next three years. Its not a crime to have a bad game against a good player. This falls right into Nate Clements territory. You know we have to get rid of him because he has gotten beat by Roddy White and Vincent Jackson. Not only is the outrage misinformed about Nate’s $80 million contract but unaware Roddy White and Vincent Jackson abuse teams top CB every week. When Clements starts getting beat but no-name, never went onto do nothing Panther rookies like Spencer than I’ll join an informed outrage.

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by bignerd on Jul 14, 2011 8:13 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

I just love how Alex Smith always seems to be a scapegoat for every player on the team not playing well.

Crabtree has bad year… Alex Smith sucks
Takeo Spikes injured his leg… Alex Smith sucks
Vernon Davis got in a fight in camp… Alex Smith sucks
Andy Lee didn’t average 70+ yards a punt… Alex Smith sucks
Davis can’t move east and west… Alex Smith sucks

With a masking of Troy Smith sprinkled in to the equation to not seem SOOO… whatever you wanna call it.

It’s honestly getting worn out.

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by Drew Kerr on Jul 15, 2011 1:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

25-30% may be overstated, but we’ve all seen Alex panic for no reason and run straight into a defender that is getting blocked past him. On the flip side of the argument, our predictable play calling and mediocre receiver play has to contribute to people not being open or people jumping our routes early because they know we won’t get a successful deep ball off too often.

Drew, Why can’t you respond specifically to what he said, rather than blowing up with a meaningless reply?

by mrg80 on Jul 15, 2011 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Davis will be fine , Harbaugh and company will see to it ...!!

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by Edggy on Jul 15, 2011 12:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Those sack numbers for Davis WILL go down and Iupati will make the Pro Bowl

For one, I have no doubt that Davis will have a better season in 2011 because

- Synder will be playing alongside of him and help him in protection
- The amazing shape that he has gotten into during the offseason
- The scheme will be better, I forgot where I saw this but during the Singletary era %70 of all run plays were right up the middle. Its nonsense to see the offensive scheme we have had the last few years
- He will get help from the TE’s & The RB’s. Anthony was left on an Island all of last season and got no help. How do you expect a Rookie to preform well?

I’m not saying that Davis will be a Pro Bowler or will be an elite RT but what I am saying is that there is no way but up and even if he cuts have of those sacks & pressure everyone will be signing his praises. He does have some factors working in his favor for next season

Iupati was a beast in the run game from day one, and he got better as the season went on in pass protection. Staley, Iupati & Baas are going to be really solid for the team 2011

by Lok on Jul 15, 2011 1:27 PM PDT reply actions  

I have a clear solution

Make Sims our left tackle, keep Davis at right, have the interior be Iupati, Baas, and Rachal, and abandon the pass. Just run the ball every single time. Oh, wait…we tried that. Nevermind.

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