Free Agency Wishlist
by temerelaforza on Jul 20, 2011 10:22 AM PDT
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PrintWith free agency coming quickly after a new CBA is done, i just wanted to take a look at the 49ers and who they should let go, re-sign, and FA they should go after once free agency starts. Since Baalke has stated that the 49ers wont be big players in free agency I tried to get guys who wont cost too much money which is why you dont see Nnamdi Asomugha on this list.
Cut/ let go
1. Nate Clements, CB- I know we are already weak at corner and we didnt really address the CB need in the draft, (Chris Culliver is not the answer), but Clements is way overpaid! I would rather cut him because he is a liability in coverage and use that money for a better player. Would be open to keep him if he takes a major pay cut
2. Dashon Goldson, S- He is going to want big money and im not sure he is worth the price. Sometimes a liability in coverage and really took a step back in performance last year.
3. Aubrayo Franklin, NT- As much as i would love for the 49ers to resign him I think the price will be too high for them to retain his services. A lot of teams will go after him and i think the 49ers are going to have to let him walk. That said I think Sopoaga will be a very solid NT if the 49ers move him there
4. Ted Ginn, WR- Did help with Special teams but we got other guys on the roster who can be a return man. Cant catch and wasnt the down field threat we brought him in to be.
5. David Carr, QB- Just awful
6. Moran Norris, FB- not very good at run blocking anymore and has limited pass catching ability
Re-sign
1. David Bass, C/G- We are very thin at center and this is a must sign.
2. Ray Mcdonald, DE- He wants to be a starter and i like the pressure he puts on the QB. i would like to bring him back and have him start opposite J.Smith. I really like his potential as is worth bringing back
3.Takeo Spikes- Still productive on the field and we need his leadership on the team
4. Manny Lawson, OLB- I think Manny is under appreciated for what he does in coverage. I really believe that he would also become a great pass rusher under new defensive coordinator Fangio and will surprise a lot of people how good he is under a new defensive scheme.
5. Travis Laboy, OLB- This guy has a serious motor and is a great situational pass rusher. Will be pretty cheap and he gets constant pressure on the QB
6. Alex Smith, QB- I have been an Alex Smith hater since he was drafted in 2005. I wanted the 49ers to cut him the past couple of years. But the 49ers really have no one else and are not interested in bringing in a top veteran qb so as much as i hate to say it and cringe at the thought of Alex Smith being the opening day starter again for the 49ers they really have no choice but to bring him back. It makes me sick thinking about Alex Smith being a 49er for another year but we put ourselves in such a bind at the position that we are forced to bring him back. MUST BE CUT NEXT YEAR!
FA Wishlist
1. James Jones, WR (GB)- The addition of Jones will vastly improve our WR corps and will develop into a big time WR in this league. Our offense would improve with Jones on the roster. My top guy i want the 49ers to go after
2. Eric Weddle, S (SD)- This guy is great in coverage and is a ball hawk. A great coverage guy is what our secondary needs!
3. Josh Wilson, CB ( BAL)- would be an upgrade over our CB's on the roster. A bit small but makes up for that in speed. A good coverage guy
4. Eric Wright CB (CLE)- he had a couple down games last year but is young and physically gifted. I really like this guy and would love to see us add him to our secondary
5. Vonta Leach/ John Kuhn, FB- Either one would be huge upgrade over Norris. Both are great run blockers nad will help the running game tremendously! Also, will give time for Bruce Miller to develop. WE NEED A TOP FB for our run game. A must sign in free agency
6. Marcus Spears, DE/DT (DAL)- He would bring solid depth to the D-line rotation as we will have to bring in some guys for depth if Frankilin bolts to another team and we move Sopoaga to NT.
7. Bruce Gradkowski/Matt Leinart, QB- Since the 49ers dont like to be players in the qb market and either sign or trade for a top veteran qb's, (like trade for Carson Palmer or bring in a vet that could actually compete for the starting spot), I still think we should bring in a veteran QB and Gradkowski has a little Jeff Garcia in him. Leinart has underperformed but i think he has a chip on his shoulder to prove people wrong. Either of these guys would be a great addition to the QB competition.
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Weddle
I love the idea of adding him. Really a nice player. My buddy was on the Chargers preseason roster his rookie year and everyone loved him and he lived up to it. Not a fan of the 2 QB suggestions, would love to get JJ from the Bucs for a pick or maybe even Nate Clements and a future pick from the Bucs. I am open to James Jones… dude is a freak but does have the dropsies!
No on Weddle, our dbacks are slow enough.
"I dropped Vince Young on his head and was fined 5 grand I barely touched Drew Brees and got fined 20,000" - J Harrison
Weddle slow?
Weddle posted a 4.48 time in the 40. I know that isn’t blazing speed but for a S you can take that. Goldson runs a 4.67 so it is an upgrade in secondary speed.
ya, mays and culiver are really slow.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 20, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Mays
Nice mention of those two, good young talent, but not the players we are speaking of. This is talking about replacing Goldson with Weddle. I love Mays and hope he brings another level to the D knowing he is the starter going into the year. Culliver is fast but you are telling me that you want to rely on a draft pick as your starter coming into a season where the players had no contact with their coaches? At least Weddle would be a NFL vet that could fit in well. It might take time for Culliver to get his NFL on or maybe he even plays one of the CB spots, he played both in college.
On whether he considers himself a corner or a safety:
"Whatever coach wants me to play. I feel like I can definitely develop into a good corner. I feel like at safety I’m definitely good at that position as well. I know I don’t have a lot of years of experience like other guys at corner, but I definitely only can develop and be a better player in that role. So, regardless, I’m down for pretty much whatever coach wants me to do."
just pointing out that niners do have speed on defense. personally let goldson walk and go after a solid corner and cut spencer. let reggie smith, mays, culiver compete for the safety spot. goldson is nothing special
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 20, 2011 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I think we our reading to much into Baalke saying not big players
First off according to the CBA owners approved we HAVE to SPEND 99% of our cap and after we relase or change Nates salary Thats another 15 mil plus other gus we cut just resigning our guys will not fill our 99% cap what I think he means is he is not signing 1 huge splash contract I will be really suprised if we dont sign either and or Richard Marshall CAR and JJ from CIN I actually would be really happy if we signed another Guard like maybe not the big money Guard put a good one who is an upgrade If we signed one of CB mentioned and than Maybe Goldson or Weddle And an upgrade at Guard I promise we would be a team to Mess with we would be a very tuff team I wouldnt mind us resgining Manny If price was right.
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by foreveryoung66 on Jul 22, 2011 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
they do not have to spend 99% of the cap.
as an individual franchise they only need to average 89% over 4 years
the league needs to average 99% over the next 2 years, however, there are exemptions and carry overs. There are going to be quite a few teams that get a 3m over the cap exemption in 2011, plus a 2.5m over the cap exemption that must be equalized in a future season. There will also be a bunch of teams just at 100% of the cap.
The 49ers will not be one of those teams.
On top of that, even if there is a league difference, it’s not stated whether this is evenly paid from all the teams, or if the teams that were under 99% pay it. If the league averages 97% and 32 teams share the 2% difference that’s still a better move than wrecklessly capping the team by over paying a few players.
I want great players in free agency as much as the next person, but stop getting hopes up. They’re not going to be active in bidding wars, and ALL of the good players in free agency this year will have bidding wars.
by whistlingmountain on Jul 23, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Culliver
Previous conversation had me watching highlights of Culliver and he looks like a good replacement for Glenn.
glenn? did you mean tedd ginn jr?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 20, 2011 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Bruce Gradkowski/Matt Leinart
"It came down like a punt, Coach!" - Josh Morgan
by shlecko on Jul 20, 2011 8:28 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
rec'ed
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 20, 2011 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Leinart admitted to being a bust...
I am not sure I want anyone on the team that has excepted defeat.
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ew I hate signing players that are not already niners
with a few exceptions. It takes away money from our own players.
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How do you improve
If you don’t sign any other players. Drafting players will only get them so far. I know the Clements signing has all us 49ers fans a little worried about how they spend money, but they have to do something.
That Clements deal doesn't worry me at all
Justin Smith was a FA acquisition. Which is why I said with a few exceptions. I believe in keeping our own guys before we go out and try to take someone elses. This isn’t soccer where whoever spends the most money will win the cup.
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My ideas
Re-sign
1) David Baas, center. Our biggest priority. He played really well last season and Center seems to be his best position. Despite fans claims that he sucked, and then their only proof of that being a 1 snap sample when he snapped it it into our own endzone causing a safety, he showed real good agility and explosion when getting out and pulling as well as good strength for inline blocking. Our best player on the line last season besides Iupati.
2) Dashon Goldson, safety. Had a down season while playing hurt. Apparently he’s not a “nice guy” on twitter. Oh noez. The horror. ROFL. When healthy he can still play a good centerfield and usually finds himself around the ball. Not very good at wrapping up but not as important at the FS position. I’d be willing to go to 5 yrs 30M with him, and I don’t even think he gets that much after his play last season.
3) Aubrayo Franklin, nose tackle. Was much better in 09’, but part of that was his holdout and not being in shape until the stretch run of the season. A VERY important part of our outstanding run defense, when he’s in shape he’s easily a top 5 NT in the league. I’d go 3/30M with him, perhaps slightly more if that’s what he wants
4) Takeo Spikes, ILB. Had his best season as a 9er last year and I think he has 1 more left in him. Don’t think Bowman is ready quite yet. A 1 year deal would be preferable.
5) Ray Mcdonald, DE/DT. Depth is always needed. Don’t think he is a starter like so many think but he is an effective nickel, dime rotational player.
Cut, let go
1) Alex Smith, QB. GTFO!
2) Manny Lawson. Very talented player, not at all a fit for a 3-4 scheme that relies on QB pressure from the OLB’s. Would be a VERY GOOD strong-side linebacker in a Tampa 2 scheme, where he can cover and play the run, a scheme utilizing his strengths. Personally I think the Bears are a fit. Urlacher, Briggs, Lawson? Look out.
FA wishlist
1) Marc Bulger, QB. Hasn’t played in awhile and his last playing sample didn’t look good with a bad Rams team. Still, he has a resume,a quick release, and an accurate ball, and would certainly be an upgrade from Alex.
2) James Jones, WR. Tough, strong receiver that has deceptive speed. Not sure I would break the bank for him but I would give him a nice deal to be our starter opposite Crabtree.
3) Ike Taylor, CB. Would prefer Joseph’s talent but probably not realistic in terms of cash. Taylor is really good, one of the reasons Lebeau can get away with blitzing so often.
4) Davin Joseph, OG. Not very realistic but one can dream.It’s been said he’s the Bucs top priority once the offseason starts. Wold immediately be an upgrade from Chilo.
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no money for all that.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions
actually we have 16-18m worth of cap space
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rookies
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Making a lot less starting this season
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by BustaTheRippa on Jul 21, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe not so much the non-first rounders
But the 7th pick in Round 1 is going to cost us a lot less than the 7th pick cost last year, If I had read the reports right.
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by BustaTheRippa on Jul 21, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
half as much
so instead of 8m its about 4m
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even if all rookies got the league min they’d still be at around 3.5m total (10x 350K). I’d guess the rookies will take up 8-10M of room.
Well isn't #1 overall something like
4 yrs/40m now?
- isn’t too far off of that.
Besides we have to factor in UDFAs, although admittedly they’re cheap.
not the players making the minimum
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably not.
But I think it depends on how much Clements is willing to re-structure for. I realize that davin joseph isn’t very realistic, just want an upgrade at RG.
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by BustaTheRippa on Jul 21, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
And also
Depending on the new CBA, from what I’ve read it remains to be seen whether Goldson will be a UFA or RFA. If he’s an RFA, we just need to tender him. That would be glorious.
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by BustaTheRippa on Jul 21, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
UFA
From what I’ve seen it’s pretty much a done deal he’s a UFA. I’ll try and find more on it but I was under the impression that was pretty much set.
by David Fucillo on Jul 21, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Goldson
I think we will overpay to bring Goldson back and I think we could get Weddle for the same money and is better than Goldson.
by temerelaforza on Jul 21, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
i don’t think we need goldson and he is nothing special
mays and reggie smith can start. also culiver played safety and there are two more safeties already on the roster plus one more was drafted.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Neither Mays or Reggie Smith are in the same league as Goldson.
Mays got burnt on a regular basis last season. He can’t play centerfield at all. Currently, he’s a special teams gunner and a nickel in the box type. Reggie Smith is a backup at best. So no, we can’t just “start them”, unless you want another year of a piss poor secondary.
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by BustaTheRippa on Jul 21, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
you are overrating goldson and underrating mays and r smith., mays will improve and r smith played good. and you also do not know what you will get from goldson will he have a good year or bad year? no one knows, not worth it.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
and you also do not know what you will get from goldson will he have a good year or bad year? no one knows, not worth it.
To be honest, I have a better idea of what I’m getting from Dashon then I am with the unproven combine warrior and the special teamer/backup.
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by BustaTheRippa on Jul 21, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
then you are not getting much from goldson.
5 picks and 3ff, take away one game against the cards 4 picks and 1ff during 4 years. goldson is nothing special. niners are load with safeties.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions
My list:
Re-sign:
Baas, Spikes, McDonald, Lawson, A. Smith
Cut/let walk:
Clements, Franklin, LaBoy, Goldson, Carr
Sign:
S Weddle, CB Joseph, UDFA QB
In a dream-land, maybe…lol. Dunno where this leaves us with the cap, but Clements is our biggest cap pain and Carr saves us 2m as well.
CAP
If we cut Clements it would free up $14 million is cap room which will give us plenty of enough cap room to go out and get some good players. Clements is a must CUT
by temerelaforza on Jul 21, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Found this...
Matt Maiocco of CSNBayArea.com takes a look at the 49ers’ salary situation for 2011. Maiocco: “The 49ers will re-sign quarterback Alex Smith to a new contract once the new CBA is ratified by the players and owners, and the lockout officially ends. The club will also pursue agreements with many of their other pending free agents, including center David Baas, safety Dashon Goldson, defensive end Ray McDonald and inside linebacker Takeo Spikes.”
Looks like Goldson is part of the rumored plan
Yes, Baalke already confirmed that pretty much
with his interview with Mullethead Kawakami.
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by BustaTheRippa on Jul 21, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
will pursue agreements =/= guaranteed to re-sign.
I bet he walks, he’ll get paid more somewhere else.
That's assuming Baalke doesn't get Donahue about it
And really overpay the guy.
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Revenge is ice cream.
When have we ever paid big bucks?
The team’s gotta be feeling burned by Clements (who hardly played up to the level of that contract). If we were gonna overpay to keep someone around, I have to think it’d be Aubrayo Franklin.
if you look at how much clements has been paid to date and compared that and him to other cb’s he really has not been overpaid.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 22, 2011 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I meant overpaid
considering that he sucks.
I know, he’s not THAT bad, good tackler, good in run support, but he stinks in coverage a lot of times.
that is what I meant also, he is not overpaid. people think that he makes 12-15million a year, he has not. he gets paid a few million less than the top cb’s in the leauge. it is only this year with a bonus that makes his contract not worth it, he is supposed to make 15 million this season. clements is worth 7-9million a year.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 22, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Can't cover!
I have to respectfully disagree. No CB is worth 7-9 million who is just good at run support. A CB needs to be able to cover and he can’t do that. He gets beat all the time deep and he is just a decent tackler. Clements is not worth that type of money at all.
by temerelaforza on Jul 23, 2011 9:49 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
niners4lyfe
defense; we should re-sign mc donald, move sopoaga to dt, smith at end. re-sign lawson and spikes. willis and cut haralson. i would love to replace him with s.merriman. start mays sign richard marshall and johnathan joseph with both salaries, it wouldn’t total asomugha asking price. cut nate clements to pay both new corners. sign godson for a one year deal signing a back up if he doesn’t perform well. offense; sign a qb please. with gore at rb. sign a lineman or two. a fullback cut norris. a no.1 wr and we can make it back to the playoffs this season. 2011-2012 ninersnation baby.
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