Nnamdi Asomugha: Is It Possible The 49ers Are Keeping Their Interest Under The Radar?
Until now I haven't really given a whole lot of thought to whether Nnamdi Asomugha will end up with the 49ers. Given that most NFL teams would love to have him in their secondary, the competition to sign him will likely be as steep as anybody else on the NFL free agent market over the next week or so. He's a Cal guy but I don't put much stock into home town discounts at this point, particularly when you've got teams like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with upwards of $60 million in cap space.
I bring this all up because there are little bits of chatter over at the World Wide Leader that have mentioned Nnamdi and the 49ers. They're not saying a deal will happen or even that it might happen. But it still piqued my curiosity. Mike Sando put together his "air-tight case" for the 49ers adding Nnamdi. Today also saw John Clayton discussing candidates to be cut and in his mention of Nate Clements he said, "There are some people in San Francisco who believe the 49ers might consider signing Nnamdi Asomugha. Releasing Clements frees up $14 million."
These two articles likely mean very little other than coincidental timing. The 49ers seem perfectly fine keeping their intentions about anything in free agency fairly under the radar. Is it possible they might jump out with a significant splash like this? Or am I just creating more smoke screens to further confuse everybody?
I will say I was intrigued by Sando's comment comparing Nnamdi and Charles Woodson. One of the concerns voiced in Nnamdi-related posts is that of age. He just turned 30 and that is not exactly a good number for some positions in the NFL. Could Nnamdi follow Woodson's post-30 career model?
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It isn't impossible, but I still believe it's terribly unlikely
Sando says suitcases of money, which is a fun turn of phrase, but I wish he’d put a real number on it because fans keep reading these non-numbers and thinking 12 million in their head.
If he signs for 4 years 76 million(40 guaranteed) with the Texans, is that something you’d have wanted for the 49ers? In two years if he’s injured or his play significantly dips as he gets older and he’s counting 18 million against the cap, would it be worth it? Is that something the 49ers front office is willing to risk, a low revenue ownership group trying to raise capital for a new stadium?
The other thing is people keep talking about Nate’s contract as this 1 for 1 thing, but his contract was bloated regardless, his space doesn’t trade 1 for 1 for another player, he’s only really freeing up what would be 8 million in space. They never intended Clements to be on the roster at 17 million.
As far as the timing of the articles go, I must have read at least 6 different articles from major outlets about why team X should spend big bucks on him. Bound to see some on the 49ers, just going to fan the flames of the 49ers fans’ anger when they don’t sign him. =/
The big question is, what exactly would you[the fan] pay Nnamdi? Maybe should make a poll, what’s the most you’d pay.
( I’m going to presume he gets a 5-7 year deal with fake escalated years toward the end similar to Clements, but the first 4 years being real )
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by whistlingmountain on Jul 20, 2011 12:23 PM PDT reply actions
Under normal circumstances, I wouldn't see the 49ers winning the bidding war
I mean, all 32 teams will be looking to sign this guy, right?
But with the new floor and cap we’re hearing about, I have no idea how it will pan out. I don’t hate Clements as much as the others here do, but obivously Nnamdi would be a HUGE upgrade.
The catch, as always, is the cost.
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Clements imo is hated because he didnt produce with what he was being paid. He wasnt the lockdown defender most thought he would be but the guy is the best tackling corner in the league. If he is willing to take a pay cut and stay with the team he should be moved to safety. He would probably do better there than Goldson. But I doubt that happens
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He’s fine at corner just don’t leave him on an island. He needs to be moved around the field more, used like a linebacker in the nickel, he doesn’t have long range coverage, safety would be a mistake. Redo his deal and still go after Nmamdi.
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I don’t think that it makes any sense to NOT go for the best players you can get on your team. If the price is right, and the player fits the defense, then why not? Why wouldn’t you go get that ‘lock down corner’?
If you have that extra player that can take away offensive weapons, then it opens it up for your other guys to get better as well.
If you have 2-3 good corners it also free’s up your safeties to make better plays and decisions.
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Not worth it...
I’m all for signing Nnamdi, as he’s the best CB in the league, but it’s completely unrealistic. There’s absolutely no reason to pay a single player that kind of money unless it’s a QB. One corner can only cover one person, and a passing attack that spreads the ball like the Pats, Packers or Saints will still beat you 10 out of 10 times
10 out of 10 is far fetched.
Some wrs need two and three men to cover them, there is no WR he can’t cover one on one, maybe a speedy one, but he’d keep them at the line. He’ll be good for 6 seasons he’s smart enough. Your defense is capable of so much more when you add a player like that. He is worth a lot, its the hardest position on the field next to QB.
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I dont think he will command 18 mil, the teams with the money have a large amount of young talent to sign. Craptree making more than J Smith baffled me. But anyway, we have some fat to trim on the roster.
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These two articles like mean very little other than coincidental timing.
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Depends on a Home Town Discount
The Charles Woodson example is the exception to the rule concerning elite 30+ year old Corners. Walt Harris played as a solid Corner for the Niners for a couple years in his early 30’s but he wasn’t an expensive acquisition.
I would have laughed off any thought that the Niners would get Nandi until a few days ago. Someone (on the radio I think) mentioned how much Nandi wants to stay in the Bay Area, he has his home and charities etc….here. But I still find it hard to believe that the Niners, fresh off of having to renegotiate or cut Clements are willing to risk another FA "elite’ Corner signing for a player of Nandi’s age. It would have to be one heck of a home town discount IMO.
by cutting some players and redoing nate clements contract it may be financially possible to get nnamdi. nnamdi and clements would be heck of combo, there are only 11 teams that have more cap room than the niners. texans have just enough room to sign their rookies. bengals have plenty of cap room but they are usually one of the teams on the cheaper end of the salary cap and they have their own cb they will probably sign. panthers have many free agents to sign, that leaves 9 other teams with more money than niners. cards have large room also but I read an article that they only have less than a handful of o-line signed and only one starter. chances might be reasonable for it to happen to get nnamdi
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I was noted
that San Francisco weren’t going to be “big players” in the free agent market, but that they also know their is a necessity to upgrade at certain positions.
If it works out logistically, I see no reason why San Francisco wouldn’t make a play fo Nnamdi.
However, you can ask yourself if it makes sense to go after him, or acquire a couple solid players. For example, would you rather have Nnamdi or Santana Moss, Pat Williams and Richard Marshall?
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 20, 2011 5:01 PM PDT reply actions
niners do not need wr and richard marshall is not that good
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 20, 2011 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I want Santana Moss from 5 years ago
The current guy, not good enough to justify not throwing our young guys in there, and see if any of them distinguish themselves.
Williams has appeal. But Nnamdi has more, because I think Clements matches up really well with most teams #2 corner, and beyond that, our pass rush could actually get there before most QB’s could get it to option #3
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by lottwasgangsta on Jul 20, 2011 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
asamougha is no clements or langham. he is more like a sanders.
I hope the niners at least make a good offer. But not a “barry zito” type offer.
by wtlichens on Jul 20, 2011 5:58 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
No sense in getting him until we have a consistent pass rush , he can lock down that player all day , but if the Qb has all day ...!!
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Pass Rush
we did get pretty consistent pass rush from the ends in a 3-4 defense, both Justin Smith and Ray McDonald ranked near the top in QB pressures as they relate to 3-4 schemes. The greater issue will be whether Parys Haralson will step it up like he did a couple seasons ago and is Aldon Smith ready to make an immediate impact?
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 20, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Not to sound obtuse , but what do you mean by ( pretty consistent pass rush ) ... because they gave up a ton of yards through the air last year ...
… and i won’t even get into holding the edge , screen plays , everything under neath , 3rd and long conversions , i mean dang we had a better chance of stopping a 3rd and 2 then a 3rd and 12 , this was not a very good defense , weather it was scheme and coaching , but one thing for sure is this D needs some speed , Oh so does the O …!!
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Justin Smith and Ray McDonald, the rest of the team lagged behind considerably. Sometimes poor pass defense is just that, poor pass defense.
Now, the OLB group needs to put more pressure on the quarterback, this much really cant be up for argument. That is why they drafted Aldon Smith.
I was specifically speaking about two individual players, not the defense as a whole
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 20, 2011 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
right in the middle with sacks.
if the niners start mcdonald at lde, than the rush from the line on every down from mcdonald and justin smith is going to be awesome for a 34. aldon smith is a rookie but we all have high hopes.
if pwilly bliztes more he would probably have the most sacks on the team.
with nnamdi instead of spencer last year the niners make the playoffs.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 20, 2011 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Why not?
Asomugha has made it clear that he would like to stay in the Bay Area. He went to school here. He also has a lot of community and charity ties to this area. The Crypt Keeper has already stated this off season that he could get two players under contract with the money they would pay Nnamdi. If the Niners jettison Clements (Oh, please! Oh, please!), they would have the cap room to pay him. I say, make a splash. Even at 30 yrs old, he would make an immediate impact.
by m_brockalexander on Jul 20, 2011 7:15 PM PDT reply actions
get rid of clements and you still have spencer. just throw to spencer all day.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 20, 2011 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
question
I keep hearing all this houston and nnamdi talk. they are about 7.6million under the cap which is probably barely enough to sign their draft picks. how can they afford him? why would he take less to play there? do they have any large contract they are going to cut?
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7.6M figure
That might not be a completely accurate number. I’m working on a post for early tomorrow to try and figure out the best idea where the 49ers are at in regards to the $120 million cap.
by David Fucillo on Jul 20, 2011 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions
but even if it is not accurate that still does not leave them any room. they drafted eight players. so 7 players at 400k equals 2.8 million and their first rounder is at number 11 which is going to be a few million. do they not have any free agents to sign? they will have to cut probably two to three decent to large contracts to get him.
if the texans have a chance then the niners have a great shot at him lol
did you see maiocco breakdown of the niners salaries?
http://www.csnbayarea.com/07/20/11/bMaioccob-Examining-the-49ers-salary-cap/landing_maiocco_v3.html?blockID=542461&feedID=5936
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 20, 2011 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
numbers
Yea, that’s part of the basis of my post. MM’s numbers put them a little under 18 million under the cap without re-negotiating Clements deal, which saves several million at the very least. I’m still trying to run some numbers for now.
by David Fucillo on Jul 20, 2011 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions

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