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NFL Owners Ratify NFL Lockout, CBA Deal - Players Now Up

The NFL lockout is one step closer to ending the lockout as the owners ratified the proposal on the table. According to Roger Goodell and lead negotiator Jeff Pash, the deal would have facilities open this Saturday but the new league year would be scheduled to begin next Wednesday. That means the players would be allowed back to facilities to start training and learning the new rules this Saturday.

However, before free agency and trades could begin, Pash indicated the union would have to recertify. That would mean the union would have until next Wednesday to get the recertification together. Given the argument for using the first day of camp to get cards signed, this weekend opening would seem to be a compromise for that. If that's the case, there could be further optimism indicating the players would be more likely to approve the deal tonight or tomorrow.

After the jump, check out the calendary provided by the NFL. This is of course all pending a union vote with their conference call scheduled for 5pm pacific. Fingers crossed.

Star-divide

JULY

July 23                     Voluntary training, conditioning and classroom instruction permitted until first day of clubs' preseason training camps.

July 23                     Pre-2011 League Year Period commences. 2011 Free Agency List to be issued and will become effective on the first day of the 2011 League Year (July 27). Clubs/players may begin to renegotiate contracts. Clubs may begin to sign Drafted Rookies and their own UFAs, RFAs, Exclusive Rights Players and Franchise Players.

July 23                     Waivers begin for the 2011 League Year.

July 23                     Starting at 2:00 PM ET, clubs may negotiate with, but not sign, Undrafted Rookie Free Agents, free agents, and other clubs' UFAs, RFAs, and Franchise Players.

July 24                     Starting at 2:00 PM ET, clubs may begin to sign undrafted rookie free agents.

July 27                     2011 League Year commences at 2:00 PM ET, provided NFLPA has ratified CBA. Free Agency Signing Period begins. Clubs may sign free agents and other clubs' Unrestricted Free Agents. Clubs may sign Offer Sheets. Trading period begins. All Clubs must be under the Salary Cap. Top 51 rule applies. 

July 27                     Expand rosters to 90-man limit. 

July 27                     Training Camps open for all clubs, provided NFLPA has ratified CBA. Day One activities limited to physicals, meetings, and conditioning. No pads permitted on Day Two or Day Three. 

AUGUST 

August 9                   Deadline for players under contract to report to their clubs to earn an Accrued Season for free agency. 

August 11-15            First Preseason Weekend 

August 12                 Deadline for signing of Offer Sheets by Restricted Free Agents.

                                 (17-day period concludes)

August 12                 Deadline for June 1 Tender to Unrestricted Free Agents. If the player has not signed a Player Contract with a Club by August 26, he may negotiate or sign a Player Contract from August 26 until the Tuesday following the tenth week of the regular season, at 4:00 PM ET, only with his Prior Club. 

August 12                 Deadline: if a Drafted Rookie has not signed a Player Contract by this date, he cannot be traded during his initial League Year and may sign a Player Contract only with the drafting Club until the day of the Draft in the next League Year. 

August 13-17            Each Club has until five days prior to its second preseason game to provide any tendered but unsigned Exclusive Rights Player or Restricted Free Agent with written notice of the Club's intent to place the player on the Exempt List if the player fails to report at least the day before the Club's second preseason game.

August 16                 Deadline for Prior Club to exercise Right of First Refusal to Restricted Free Agents.

                                 (Four-day matching period conlcudes) 

August 17                 Deadline for June 1 Tender to Restricted Free Agents who have received a Qualifying Offer for a Right of First Refusal Only.  

August 18-22            Second Preseason Weekend. 

August 25-28            Third Preseason Weekend. 

August 26                 Signing Period ends for Unrestricted Free Agents who received the June 1 Tender. 

August 29                 Deadline for June 15 Tender to Restricted Free Agents. If player's Qualifying Offer is greater than 110% of the player's prior year's Paragraph 5 Salary (with all other terms of his prior year contract carried forward unchanged), the Club may withdraw the Qualifying Offer on August 29 and retain its exclusive negotiating rights to the player, so long as the Club immediately tenders the player a one-year Player Contract of at least 110% of his prior year's Paragraph 5 Salary, with all the terms of his prior year's contract carried forward unchanged. 

August 30                 Clubs reduce rosters from 90 players to 75 players. 

SEPTEMBER 

September 1-2         Fourth Preseason Weekend. 

September 3            Clubs reduce rosters to 53 players.

September 8-12       First Regular-Season Weekend. 

September 18-19     Second Regular-Season Weekend 

September 20          Deadline at 4:00 PM ET for any Club that designated a Franchise Player to sign such player to a multi-year contract or extension. 

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Yay! end the lockout...!!

Did I do it right?

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 4:38 PM PDT reply actions  

2011 Salary Cap for team spending is $120.375 million.

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 4:38 PM PDT reply actions  

would help if other people talked too.

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec"ed lol

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jay_Glazer Jay Glazer
I’m hearing De Smith telling players he thinks the agreement is a good, fair deal. Still remains to be seen if the players vote it thru tho

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 21, 2011 4:43 PM PDT reply actions  

nooooooooooooooo you beat me

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

compromise

I’m assuming the decision to open facilities on Saturday but not open camp till Wednesday splits the difference on owners wanting instant reformation of union and players thinking two weeks.

by David Fucillo on Jul 21, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is this the end of the apocalypse?

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by FearTheTree on Jul 21, 2011 4:46 PM PDT reply actions  

ITS FEAR THE TREE

shoot

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's the end of the end of the world‼

We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.

by these3words on Jul 21, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

RT @SI_JimTrotter: you can take it to the bank that the players are not going to ratify this proposal as currently presented. #nfl

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 4:49 PM PDT reply actions  

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

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by FearTheTree on Jul 21, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

so recworthy.

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by FearTheTree on Jul 21, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Players put your money were your mouth is.....

ante up suckas

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

"We'll be the first really global team in the NBA. For me, being the first foreign owner, I want to do my best to invite all the fans for the team all over the world. I think the NBA is worldwide. But other teams [possess a] more local mentality. We are going to create and to build a global franchise to sell all around the world. I think I have a competitive advantage compared to other owners." - Mikhail Prokhorov

by Kidd2Petrovic on Jul 21, 2011 4:53 PM PDT reply actions  

i think it would be the owners putting their money were their mouth is jk lol

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol touche

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

"We'll be the first really global team in the NBA. For me, being the first foreign owner, I want to do my best to invite all the fans for the team all over the world. I think the NBA is worldwide. But other teams [possess a] more local mentality. We are going to create and to build a global franchise to sell all around the world. I think I have a competitive advantage compared to other owners." - Mikhail Prokhorov

by Kidd2Petrovic on Jul 21, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jay Glazer

Plus, many of players I talk to seem overly excited to get done with this ridiculous soap opera. However, one player said…
… there’s a group who want to make sure they aren’t just getting pushed into lesser deal by following owners’ timeline.

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 4:53 PM PDT reply actions  

6 mins till the players meet

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 4:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Don’t they have to review the deal first before they vote?

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by FearTheTree on Jul 21, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

shhh

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

yup supposedly players are voting no

thanks players

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

That reaction is probably exactly why the NFL is making such a big deal about this.

If there’s an issue now, from a PR standpoint, all on the players. NFL has the full support of people.

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by James Brady on Jul 21, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

well it worked

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

and profootball talk lol

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

That doesn’t necessarily mean the players HAVE to sign a deal if they feel they’re being cheated out.

"I need a new (guy) for this black cloud to follow, cause while it's over me it's too dark to see tomorrow" -Nas

by FearTheTree on Jul 21, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

it said that it is illegal for an employer to force their employees to reform a union? wow……..

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep

Employees have right to form a union and also have right to not form a union. And employer actions can constrain that even if it is about forming a union.

by David Fucillo on Jul 21, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

so the nfl can not demand that the players reform the union?
so then the nfl is still open to anittrust lawsuits?

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

forming union

They can’t force them to reform the union…back in the 90s the union didn’t reform right away. Not to say they won’t reform, but legally they can’t force it.

by David Fucillo on Jul 21, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

so it was really huge that the players did disbanded the union.

can the player settle this lawsuit and then file the same type of lawsuit later on?

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't you have to be a union to sign a CBA?

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe its something else, duno. seems sort of weird, all that negotiating and they are not even going to be a union. it seems maybe to the benefit of the players to not reform the union.

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

They can reach an agreement

to end the lawsuits and lockout without the union reforming, it wouldn’t be a true CBA, but would get football kind of started. However if the players don’t re-form as a union then the NFL doesn’t gain an anti-trust exemption for the stuff that is bargained for. So nothing would stop Andrew Luck from suing the NFL next year claiming that the draft or rookie wage scale is a violation of anti-trust law

by smbz5b on Jul 21, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

... seems like the players want to go for it but the head people don't

@TorreySmithWR: Just got off the phone with @Foxworth24….IM HYPEDDDD!!!!!!

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 5:00 PM PDT reply actions  

saw that...

This is so jumbled right now…basically just need news from the players conference call.

by David Fucillo on Jul 21, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

if players can be back at the facility on saturday, does that mean all the niners will be there for super bowl under the stars?

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 5:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Sincerely doubt “all”, but if things take a turn for the pleasant (unlikely) instead of the nasty (likely) I could see some fan-favorites like Joe Staley maybe making an appearance.

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by James Brady on Jul 21, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

you gona be there?

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Glazer refuses to stop being optimistic
Jay_Glazer I still believe we’re upon a new deal folks! But I won’t believe it until I hear it first-hand after players call

"I need a new (guy) for this black cloud to follow, cause while it's over me it's too dark to see tomorrow" -Nas

by FearTheTree on Jul 21, 2011 5:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Guess Players are "folding this hand"

Must think Owners trying to pull a fast one??

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

"We'll be the first really global team in the NBA. For me, being the first foreign owner, I want to do my best to invite all the fans for the team all over the world. I think the NBA is worldwide. But other teams [possess a] more local mentality. We are going to create and to build a global franchise to sell all around the world. I think I have a competitive advantage compared to other owners." - Mikhail Prokhorov

by Kidd2Petrovic on Jul 21, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

When does Free Agency start?

I looked at the dates above, but still confused

by Grabtree15 on Jul 21, 2011 5:11 PM PDT reply actions  

exciting.

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not happening, dont look like players going to sign......

players feel owners still playing games

WHAT THE H……E……..DOUBLE HOCKEY STICKS???

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

"We'll be the first really global team in the NBA. For me, being the first foreign owner, I want to do my best to invite all the fans for the team all over the world. I think the NBA is worldwide. But other teams [possess a] more local mentality. We are going to create and to build a global franchise to sell all around the world. I think I have a competitive advantage compared to other owners." - Mikhail Prokhorov

by Kidd2Petrovic on Jul 21, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like football.

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by Haggardninja on Jul 21, 2011 5:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Nightmare

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/report-de-smith-tells-player-reps-there-is-no-agreement-with-nfl/related/

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by FearTheTree on Jul 21, 2011 5:17 PM PDT reply actions  

lol

only important words, no agreement.

also
we have not been apart of those discussions.

maybe the owners will just open the league up and finish it later.

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

yup no deal for us

thanks players. MORE WAITING FOR US

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I was waiting for the first kitteh picture rec'ed for you sir.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Requesting to close the site decorum?

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 5:23 PM PDT reply actions  

D. Smith e-mail
All,

As you know the Owners have ratified their proposal to settle our differences. It is my understanding that they are forwarding it to us.

As you may have heard, they apparently approved a supplemental revenue sharing proposal. Obviously, we have not been a part of those discussions.

As you know from yesterday, issues that need to be collectively bargained remain open, other issues such as workers compensation, economic issues and end of deal terms remain unresolved.

There is no agreement between the NFL and the Players at this time. I look forward to our call tonight.

"I need a new (guy) for this black cloud to follow, cause while it's over me it's too dark to see tomorrow" -Nas

by FearTheTree on Jul 21, 2011 5:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Not a good sign

but the players would look really bad if they said no

by brundylop on Jul 21, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

//slashes wrists

"I need a new (guy) for this black cloud to follow, cause while it's over me it's too dark to see tomorrow" -Nas

by FearTheTree on Jul 21, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would be a PR disaster for the players not to approve a deal

The common fan saw the NFL news conference on CNN and Fox News. If it isn’t approved by the players they will be seen as at fault, justified or not.

I am wondering why the NFLPA would let the owners put them in this type of situation if they weren’t going to ratify the deal

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 21, 2011 5:24 PM PDT reply actions  

on the other side, the owners will look stupid for preannouncing this knowing that there is still unresolved issues.

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

actually PR move by Owners puts heat on Players....

but makes trust between owners vs players even more strained behind closed doors

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

"We'll be the first really global team in the NBA. For me, being the first foreign owner, I want to do my best to invite all the fans for the team all over the world. I think the NBA is worldwide. But other teams [possess a] more local mentality. We are going to create and to build a global franchise to sell all around the world. I think I have a competitive advantage compared to other owners." - Mikhail Prokhorov

by Kidd2Petrovic on Jul 21, 2011 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

can be the other side

owners say it is done when it is not. media and owners lose credibility.

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Media is already trying to spining it....esp. BSPN

as players agruing with owners on “veges” of the deal. (ie. 10 player lawsuit esp VJackson & 320 mil revenue players were suppose to get from last year)

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

"We'll be the first really global team in the NBA. For me, being the first foreign owner, I want to do my best to invite all the fans for the team all over the world. I think the NBA is worldwide. But other teams [possess a] more local mentality. We are going to create and to build a global franchise to sell all around the world. I think I have a competitive advantage compared to other owners." - Mikhail Prokhorov

by Kidd2Petrovic on Jul 21, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

media is spinning it all towards the owners. pft is really slanted towards the owners. heck the owners gave tons of money from cheaper contracts to the big media companies. nothing like a few hundred of millions, or even billions, of dollars to spin stories on your side.

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

aren't supposed to

they agreed that they wouldn’t get it in the previous CBA

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I stole this off of twitter I'm not creative.

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 21, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

no CBA=more bathroom stall?

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by FearTheTree on Jul 21, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm curious why the players would say no

Didn’t they negotiate to get this proposed CBA in plan? Why would the owners vote on a plan that the players didn’t negotiate?

by brundylop on Jul 21, 2011 5:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Apparently the owners approved of a revenue sharing proposal

which were discussions that the players didn’t have.

"I need a new (guy) for this black cloud to follow, cause while it's over me it's too dark to see tomorrow" -Nas

by FearTheTree on Jul 21, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's strange

I thought revenue sharing would help the players, since the owners would be “taking from each other” instead of “taking from the players”.

That was sort of the slant I heard behind revenue sharing way back in April/May

by brundylop on Jul 21, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

yup

were fucked

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

your request was not granted...

We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.

by these3words on Jul 21, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

He didn't say no

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to get permission.

"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant

by Mdizzle138 on Jul 21, 2011 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

foshizzle

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is worse than the Harbaugh-calypse…at least that had positive moments. This doesn’t…

"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant

by Mdizzle138 on Jul 21, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

at least that had site decorum off

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget the rally pictures

"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant

by Mdizzle138 on Jul 21, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

roywilliams31 roy williams
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RT @ReggieKelly82: United we stand!

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 21, 2011 5:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Haha, I was reading Owners agreed 31-0 on approval...

Guess what team didn’t vote???

DA RAIDERS!!!

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

"We'll be the first really global team in the NBA. For me, being the first foreign owner, I want to do my best to invite all the fans for the team all over the world. I think the NBA is worldwide. But other teams [possess a] more local mentality. We are going to create and to build a global franchise to sell all around the world. I think I have a competitive advantage compared to other owners." - Mikhail Prokhorov

by Kidd2Petrovic on Jul 21, 2011 5:28 PM PDT reply actions  

lol

I was wondering if Al Davis was there.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Amy Trask was there

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by FearTheTree on Jul 21, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dumb franchise!!!

http://kansascity.sbnation.com/kansas-city-chiefs/2011/7/21/2287681/31-0-nfl-owners-complete-their-half-rest-of-deal-up-to-tuesday-player

The players still have to vote on the agreement, but a 31-0 vote has brought together the owners to ratify, with Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis abstaining from his vote.

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Jul 21, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

seems like the owners bargain like used car salespeople lol

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 5:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Glazer

“They are not going to vote tonight, but things change by the second”

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 21, 2011 5:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Hmmm

@dkaplansbj : USA Today reporting players have rejected the deal.

by David Fucillo on Jul 21, 2011 5:31 PM PDT reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

...

stupid usa today. I’ll put down my pitchfork

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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
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by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Onion>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>USA Today

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by FearTheTree on Jul 21, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

However

it’s entertaining when people think the Onion is serious

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by Mdizzle138 on Jul 21, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think...

I’m just going to stop posting updates for the moment. One source says there’s gonna be no vote. Another source says the deal was rejected. A third source says players haven’t even seen everything owners voted on

by David Fucillo on Jul 21, 2011 5:33 PM PDT reply actions  

I agree

this is getting pretty darn stupid. Time to take a breath and have a cool beverage!

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 21, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its called twitter

Thought you learned the lesson during Harbaughpoolza?

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by bignerd on Jul 21, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't he sign with Miami?

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by FearTheTree on Jul 21, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

He flew across the country three times in 12 hours with Stephen Ross

Picked up at both the SF airport and LAX.

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by bignerd on Jul 21, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

he is coaching both

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

chronicle live just changed the story literally five times.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where is Stephen Ross in all of this?

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by James Brady on Jul 21, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone have a copy of the deal the owners approved?

Well the half deal, uncompleted deal they supposedly approved?

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by bignerd on Jul 21, 2011 5:33 PM PDT reply actions  

On our air, @Jay_Glazer just said there’s gonna be NO player vote. I’m hearing this call is not going well right now.

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by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 5:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Haha nice shot by Mooch at Congress

“This isn’t like Congress signing the Stimulus bill or Health Care bill without actually reading it” lol

by sanfranfanmdk on Jul 21, 2011 5:38 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

lol rec"ed

tarp-the country is going to barbarian times unless you sign this bill!!!! one page for one trillion dollars.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

chronicle live

gets all of their information from “twitter” lol

great investigative journalism. comcast is on the ball.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 5:38 PM PDT reply actions  

seriously

I switched over for a minute and when I saw what they had going I quickly switched back to NFLN.

by David Fucillo on Jul 21, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm destroying Twitter right now

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by James Brady on Jul 21, 2011 5:40 PM PDT reply actions  

NFL Owners vote 31-0 to approve CBA. Meanwhile JaMarcus Russell voted 1-0 to chug purple drank & pass out on the couch

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by FearTheTree on Jul 21, 2011 5:40 PM PDT reply actions  

twitter isn't all bad, y'know.

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by FearTheTree on Jul 21, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

CBA didn't have the measurables

Raiders passed

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by bignerd on Jul 21, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm already on it. I've covered like half the teams so far.

I’ll be writing for The Onion by the end of the night.

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by James Brady on Jul 21, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

MauricePrice17 Mr. Price is Right
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Dear Fans, WE (the players) ARE NOT the “bad guys” !!!

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 21, 2011 5:44 PM PDT reply actions  

They are looking like the enemy

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

appearances

can be deceiving. None of us really knows what’s going on at this point.

by David Fucillo on Jul 21, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

appearances are everything

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

except

When trying to come up with a decade of working conditions, if the NFL is pulling a fast one, NFLPA will just have to take the PR hit.

by David Fucillo on Jul 21, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess

I just want it to end

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rich Eisen is no Nancy Grace

He’s terrible at trying to bump up the drama.

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by bignerd on Jul 21, 2011 5:46 PM PDT reply actions  

earlier...

There were times I thought he’d break down crying or screaming…It was entertaining.

by David Fucillo on Jul 21, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Rich Eisen

don’t hate on him

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

he is pretty solid

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 21, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

One more angle

I’d say take these with a grain of salt

@SBJLizMullen
Source: The owners’ negotiating team took to their constituents terms the players’ negotiating team told them they would not agree to. #NFL

@Jay_Glazer
Players gave owners some counters, didn’t hear back regarding them and also didn’t like timeline of re-certifying and enacting certain rules

by David Fucillo on Jul 21, 2011 5:49 PM PDT reply actions  

owners are trying to play dirty. misinformation to put the presure on the players.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Female significant use this ploy effectively all the time

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by bignerd on Jul 21, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

^others

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by bignerd on Jul 21, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

BREAKING NEWS

NFLPA REJECTS DEAL

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by FearTheTree on Jul 21, 2011 5:50 PM PDT reply actions  

warning 80's music.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

LMAO

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

"We'll be the first really global team in the NBA. For me, being the first foreign owner, I want to do my best to invite all the fans for the team all over the world. I think the NBA is worldwide. But other teams [possess a] more local mentality. We are going to create and to build a global franchise to sell all around the world. I think I have a competitive advantage compared to other owners." - Mikhail Prokhorov

by Kidd2Petrovic on Jul 21, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

ProFootballWkly Pro Football Weekly
NFLPA call still ongoing. Reports are that players still haven’t seen a full proposal from the league yet.

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 21, 2011 5:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Rachel__Nichols Rachel Nichols
And this RT @HeathEvans Here is what fans need 2 know: owners tried 2 slip many things into the CBA they voted on that were NEVER agreed to

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 21, 2011 5:52 PM PDT reply actions  

I guess they've learned a few things from congress

Earmarking is not cool

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by goatfather on Jul 21, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

the owners are that guy...

at the poker game that has an Ace up their sleeve

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"We'll be the first really global team in the NBA. For me, being the first foreign owner, I want to do my best to invite all the fans for the team all over the world. I think the NBA is worldwide. But other teams [possess a] more local mentality. We are going to create and to build a global franchise to sell all around the world. I think I have a competitive advantage compared to other owners." - Mikhail Prokhorov

by Kidd2Petrovic on Jul 21, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

for sure

but they have mos def beat the players at this point. I find it hard to imagine that the players can turn this thing around. There would have to be some obvious shady moves to reverse public opinion. People are more likely to target a few players for making tweets than the Owners and NFL as a whole.

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by goatfather on Jul 21, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

yea players aren't getting any help from the media either...

Seriously they don’t even have a concrete document to review

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"We'll be the first really global team in the NBA. For me, being the first foreign owner, I want to do my best to invite all the fans for the team all over the world. I think the NBA is worldwide. But other teams [possess a] more local mentality. We are going to create and to build a global franchise to sell all around the world. I think I have a competitive advantage compared to other owners." - Mikhail Prokhorov

by Kidd2Petrovic on Jul 21, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess but how much just emerged from nowhere?

I mean there were lawyers working in the players interest during all of this. I find it hard to believe they just stopped repin their interests.

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by goatfather on Jul 21, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea may be I should draw up a concrete document...

With a Etch A Sketch so the players can read something

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

"We'll be the first really global team in the NBA. For me, being the first foreign owner, I want to do my best to invite all the fans for the team all over the world. I think the NBA is worldwide. But other teams [possess a] more local mentality. We are going to create and to build a global franchise to sell all around the world. I think I have a competitive advantage compared to other owners." - Mikhail Prokhorov

by Kidd2Petrovic on Jul 21, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

nice

but then things can get shaken up too easily

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by goatfather on Jul 21, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

their getting shook-up every day so far

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

"We'll be the first really global team in the NBA. For me, being the first foreign owner, I want to do my best to invite all the fans for the team all over the world. I think the NBA is worldwide. But other teams [possess a] more local mentality. We are going to create and to build a global franchise to sell all around the world. I think I have a competitive advantage compared to other owners." - Mikhail Prokhorov

by Kidd2Petrovic on Jul 21, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think the lawsuits and not having to reform the union are the aces that are being held by the players. owners are trying to bluff with a low pair.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rachel__Nichols Rachel Nichols
And the player who may best sum up fans’ perspective RT @ArianFoster Owners blah blah blah…players blah blah blah…lockout blah blah blah

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 21, 2011 6:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Thats why he's such a good RB

he gets it

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by goatfather on Jul 21, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Want me to add to the confusion?
MarcedesLewis89 Marcedes Lewis
RT @Jay_Glazer: One side down, one to go. I can smell training camp coming… I hope

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 21, 2011 6:02 PM PDT reply actions  

..
AnthonyDavis76 Be Mindful of what kind of energy you bring into your life via twitter.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 6:03 PM PDT reply actions  

another guy who gets it

I like this dude

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by goatfather on Jul 21, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love him

gonna be a good solid RT for us for a long time.

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

RT??? I'm hoping for LT...

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

"We'll be the first really global team in the NBA. For me, being the first foreign owner, I want to do my best to invite all the fans for the team all over the world. I think the NBA is worldwide. But other teams [possess a] more local mentality. We are going to create and to build a global franchise to sell all around the world. I think I have a competitive advantage compared to other owners." - Mikhail Prokhorov

by Kidd2Petrovic on Jul 21, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Staley is our LT for years

solid O-Line in general

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

if davis does well, close to "probowler" well

think I might move staley back to natural RT

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

"We'll be the first really global team in the NBA. For me, being the first foreign owner, I want to do my best to invite all the fans for the team all over the world. I think the NBA is worldwide. But other teams [possess a] more local mentality. We are going to create and to build a global franchise to sell all around the world. I think I have a competitive advantage compared to other owners." - Mikhail Prokhorov

by Kidd2Petrovic on Jul 21, 2011 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

he was always a LT

how is staley a natural RT

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

cause staley plays better at a lighter weight, even in college

Davis is the big boy, much suited for LT.

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

"We'll be the first really global team in the NBA. For me, being the first foreign owner, I want to do my best to invite all the fans for the team all over the world. I think the NBA is worldwide. But other teams [possess a] more local mentality. We are going to create and to build a global franchise to sell all around the world. I think I have a competitive advantage compared to other owners." - Mikhail Prokhorov

by Kidd2Petrovic on Jul 21, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

LT are usually lighter and quicker than RT

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

joe staley 6' 5", 315 lbs San fran vs 2011 rookie LT propects

Tyron Smith: Southern Cal (6050, 307) (Arm length 36 3/8)
Nate Solder: Colorado (6082, 319) (Arm length (35 ½)
Derek Sherrod: Mississippi State (6053, 321) (Arm length: 35 3/8)
Gabe Carimi: Wisconsin (6070, 314) (Arm length: 35-inches)

With exception of Tyron Smith all this rooks are bigger than staley

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

"We'll be the first really global team in the NBA. For me, being the first foreign owner, I want to do my best to invite all the fans for the team all over the world. I think the NBA is worldwide. But other teams [possess a] more local mentality. We are going to create and to build a global franchise to sell all around the world. I think I have a competitive advantage compared to other owners." - Mikhail Prokhorov

by Kidd2Petrovic on Jul 21, 2011 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

will all of them play LT though?

hopefully we willl find out shortly

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

What doesn't make sense

is the fact that De. Smith and Goodell were in conversations today. Why or how could the owners blindside the players like this. There has to be more to the situation than what is being reported

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 21, 2011 6:04 PM PDT reply actions  

My guess

is that the players were trying pressure the league by stalling to try and get back the 320 million in lost benefits from the uncapped year, so the owners decided to do this to pressure the players.

by smbz5b on Jul 21, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're right

It doesn’t make any sense. No way they blindside D. Smith. Breakdown in communications. How will be the first to commit “twittercide”?

by Jaxson876 on Jul 21, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I follow this sentiment

I don’t get it

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by goatfather on Jul 21, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well you see they agreed on a deal but then Smith found out that it was Goodell who asked his crush to the dance in the 8th grade

so this is blacklash

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

mark murphy hair looks fake

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 6:05 PM PDT reply actions  

it's fake

like the agreem… nevermind

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by bignerd on Jul 21, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

booo to you sir

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Jul 21, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

BOOBIE

Boobie24Dixon Anthony Dixon
If the Players agree to this deal,it will be a sad day in football,Fans don’t want that,players don’t want that,Owners shouldn’t want that!

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 21, 2011 6:12 PM PDT reply actions  

fans just want football

I don’t give a rats ass about the details.

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

so we are supposed to take his interpretation

How can it be that way? They have been negotiating!

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Jul 21, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

BOOBIE 2

Boobie24Dixon Anthony Dixon
Go back to the table and talk it out together,it’s simple,nutting should happen this week!

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 21, 2011 6:12 PM PDT reply actions  

just my opinion

but I lost all credibility from the owners. just my opinion but they could have negotiated this more respectably. first preseason game is serious jeporday as they already canceled the hall of fame game and the preseason start 4 days after that game.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 6:14 PM PDT reply actions  

How so?

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by goatfather on Jul 21, 2011 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is something more to it

no way that the owners go through with that press conference after talking to the NFLPA all day. If they did, it would be backhanded, all trust would be lost and we could be starting from point zero once again.

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 21, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

personally I think they did it on purpose. the owners may be ignorant but they people they hire are not.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

there is clearly no deal, yet the owners basically lied and said there was. they have used the media to put pressure on the players to take a lesser deal. plus the whole fiasco that brought us here.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

According to USA Today, the Raiders have "profound philosophical differences" with the NFL

But then again this is USA Today…

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by FearTheTree on Jul 21, 2011 6:18 PM PDT reply actions  

maybe by not voting that if the nfl gets sued and loses maybe the raiders will be less responsible?

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

MikeSimsWalker MIKE SIMS-WALKER
 by bmiller_49
So yall expect us to sign a 400 page deal in a hour without thoroughly looking thru it?

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 21, 2011 6:19 PM PDT reply actions  

they can't vote yes but they can vote no

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

didn’t they have player representatives? I would like to look through all of the 100000 pages of legislatives bills before I “sign off” on them …….

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by goatfather on Jul 21, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ummm , yup ... thats why the hired lawyers and D Smith ...!!

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by Edggy on Jul 21, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

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Hoping this lockout ends as soon as everyone thinks it is going too !!

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 21, 2011 6:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm just wondering if the players never saw the deal how do they know that they added new stuff to it?

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 6:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Apparently it's stuff they claim to not have negotiated

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by FearTheTree on Jul 21, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

so they read that the Owners added new stuff but they haven't read it

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

exactly

"I need a new (guy) for this black cloud to follow, cause while it's over me it's too dark to see tomorrow" -Nas

by FearTheTree on Jul 21, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

this makes no sense

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by goatfather on Jul 21, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well the players are saying that they haven't read it

but then they said that the owners added new stuff without actually reading new stuff.

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

then they have read it

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Boobie24Dixon Anthony Dixon
Dear Twit Fam,what if the folks at your job came up with a work plan,without you seeing it or approving it,on sum take it or leave it shit!

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 21, 2011 6:21 PM PDT reply actions  

lol

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

So I asked him

Was it take it or leave it?

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 21, 2011 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

BOOBIE
Boobie24Dixon Anthony Dixon
It’s foolish to sign the line! Things went down off assumptions,you tell me when is that ever good!

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 21, 2011 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ya, Vincent Jackson deserves the money, sign and pay the man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sick of this.

Take a look at the unemployment rate right now, players. Now be grateful you even have jobs.

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by FearTheTree on Jul 21, 2011 6:27 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

^that is not to vilify the players

I understand that they need to look through this agreement but the reports about them trying to leech the $320 million is ridiculous

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by FearTheTree on Jul 21, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

One theory

maybe the loudest opponents of the deal within the NFLPA are the ones speaking up on Twitter etc….

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 21, 2011 6:28 PM PDT reply actions  

no half of these guys said yes lockout over now they switched over to the dark side.

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

this makes some sense

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Jul 21, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol Boobs

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Jul 21, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

why is greg aiello head of the nfl public relations on a plane and not handling this mess that he made? lol

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 6:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Can someone explain how a contract gets negotiated with

representation from both sides and yet the players claim they have been blindsided… by who? their representatives? FOOCH, help me understand this. Have they not been “negotiating” this deal?

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Jul 21, 2011 6:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Not the same deal

From what I’ve read the deal the owners voted on wasn’t the same as what eh players and owners have been working on.

by Dave R. on Jul 21, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

well it cannot be drastically different

so the owners know whatever they added will be reported and if its indeed shady then they have to have known they will get called out on that…

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by goatfather on Jul 21, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

the owners approved the whole cba, announced everything as done deal without the players agreeing to everything and probably including stuff the players said they would not agree to

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Boobie24Dixon Anthony Dixon
Dear NFL PA,don’t do it,Stand and Fight,I will,we all wanna play but we don’t need this,we are guys of many talents,we will survive!

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 21, 2011 6:30 PM PDT reply actions  

that would only add to this pain

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Jul 21, 2011 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is just showing frustration

and that is understandable, but the forum for it may be a little wrong. Just my humble my opinion

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 21, 2011 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

NFL VP Greg Aiello says what @heathevans said about details being sneaked into the CBA is not true – that it’s all been negotiated.

"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"

by manraj7 on Jul 21, 2011 6:31 PM PDT reply actions  

he contradicted himself.

he said that the owners voted on the new cba but yet said things are still being negotiated. so this is how the owners are negotiating.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe

There is a window in the agreement where points of contention could be worked out

by smbz5b on Jul 21, 2011 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

it is still not done, it appears the owners put suff in there they did not like. the owners should not have announced it as being done deal.

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 21, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

And ( added ) 400 ,ore pages ...!!

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by Edggy on Jul 21, 2011 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best Tweet of the night
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Just got a call from my agent. I will be joining Kobe Bryant to play bball in Turkey.

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