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NFL Labor Seminar Begins CBA Education For Team Executives

While the NFLPA is busy figuring out the owners' proposal and whether they are going to vote on it, the NFL Management Council conducted a labor seminar Friday morning in Atlanta. This was planned in advance of the meeting and included up to four executives from each NFL franchise. Trent Baalke is definitely in attendance for the 49ers as I saw some footage of him walking around in the hotel in Atlanta.

The executives were briefed on the new rules in the owner-approved CBA, which cover everything from economics to roster requirements to practice rules. The rules have not been ratified by the players and a few of them seem to be open to enough interpretation and negotiation as to create some consternation on both sides.

For example, during the regular season teams will only be able to practice in pads one day a week. Additionally, during the final five weeks of the regular season teams can only practice in pads one day a week during three of those weeks. The biggest question mark right now is whether shells count as a padded practice or not. Shells involve wearing the underpads and helmets but not the full gear. In the link above Brian Billick raises the question of whether padded practice means no shells, no helmets, or what exactly. At around the 2:30 mark, Billick gives a solid rundown of a possible practice schedule over the course of season in previous years.

I suppose the argument can be made that fewer padded practices and fewer OTAs will mean fewer injuries. The problem of course is what kind of change we'll see related to in-game hits. Changes in practice rules would seem to help more with preventing more moderate injuries that build up over the course of season. That would have less effect on more "catastrophic" injuries whether it be concussions, torn ligaments, etc.

Along those lines, One issue that appears to still be on the table is related to discipline. There haven't been specifics but it sounds like the same concern from the past exists in terms of players wanting some kind of say as opposed to Der Kommissar laying down the hammer with impunity. That applies to the off the field conduct policy, but one has to wonder the impact on Goodell making changes to fines and suspensions as they relate to big hits.

Aside from levying more and more fines or turning this into flag football, are there ways to decrease the injuries? One could argue it's simply a matter of changing the culture, which takes time and these fines could help in that sense. On the other hand, is the game so inherently violent that things like concussions will always be a problem?

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owners got greedy and let the players remove most of the practices so the owners could get more money. One year too late for Eric Heitmann’s career though.

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 22, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

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owners- we want more money

players- what will you give us back?

owners- we will give you less contact at practice and less practice.

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 22, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Players

We want more money. Owners. What will you give us back?

It’s called negotiations and implies nothing about greediness.

by smileyman on Jul 22, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

who got more money from this cba?

Owners.

fail.

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 22, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

At this point

I’m all for the owners locking the players in a room and throwing away the key ‘till they sign. So much contradictory info and BS coming out of their side since yesterday that I’ve lost all patience and sympathy for them.

These new rules are kind of lame, and people are complaining the players got everything they wanted short of stunt doubles to play for them. Enough of this.

by Gitaroo_Dude on Jul 22, 2011 12:40 PM PDT reply actions  

This has been an interesting discussion topic recently

I, for one, don’t want to see too many rule changes implemented. I think that we’ve seen some rule changes recently that are poorly, or too subjectively enforced. I can agree with the desire to keep players safe, but I don’t think that the Brady rule, or some of the more recent fines levied last year for the “defenseless receivers” has done much beyond making the game more frustrating, and less fun.

Personally, I think that this is the type of issue that increasing technological improvements will help to solve.

The University of West Virginia (home of the fightin’ rednecks) completed the first academic study of helmet safety THIS YEAR! The findings concluded that one of the least effective helmets on the market is also the most widely used. Information like that goes a long way to reducing head injuries. You can find the story in this weeks TMQ on ESPN.com.

Additionally, I think a less evasive form of drug testing for HGH would go a long way. Heck, just actually being serious about drug testing (which to my mind no major league sport actually is) would go a long way toward fixing the problem.

by Mertons_merkin on Jul 22, 2011 12:46 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

This will probably be the first disciplinary test for the new cba.
According to Carlos Illescas of the Denver Post, the alleged victim claims she was drugged and raped by Cox on September 6. The alleged victim has since had a child, and DNA tests confirmed that Cox is the father.
She claims that Broncos receiver Demaryius Thomas and Broncos cornerback Cassius Vaughan were present. The alleged victim reportedly recalls kissing and being fondled by Thomas, who claims he left Cox’s apartment after the alleged victim passed out

link
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/22/victim-alleges-she-was-drugged-impregnated-by-perrish-cox/

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 22, 2011 2:35 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Kenny Britt has been in trouble a few times

there have been others too, though this Cox case seems to be the worst of the lot. This would only be his second year in the league too.

What an idiot.

by smileyman on Jul 22, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

what he did is 10-15 years in prison if convicted. And Thomas and Vaughan seem to implicated also. it seems it would be easy for nfl player to get some, why do burger and this guy need to do this?

what britt did is just stupid stuff like speeding and resisting arrest.

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 22, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh I definitely agree that Cox's was the worst

I also don’t understand why he felt he needed to do this—were not enough girls throwing themselves at him because he’s an NFL player. Even if he only does the minimum time I can’t see any team willing to resign him given that he was a 5th round draft prospect.

by smileyman on Jul 22, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

nfl will not want a registered sex offender playing.

and he will probably due so much time if convicted that he will be past nfl age. broncos could have three players involved with it. hence why character is so important when drafting.

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 22, 2011 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Denver Broncos' secondary

Now that’s how you play bump and run coverage.

by Mertons_merkin on Jul 22, 2011 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec'ed

but they forgot to wear their helmets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 22, 2011 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would be willing to bet, at this same time next week there still won’t be any deal.The lockout will still be in place.

by bmcrae83@yahoo.com on Jul 22, 2011 7:47 PM PDT reply actions  

how much?

what day? I think I will take your bet.

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 22, 2011 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

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