Official NN Free Agency/Trade Thread - Post UDFAs [7/26]
by David Fucillo on Jul 26, 2011 1:37 PM PDT
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PrintAlthough I'd normally wait until our first official free agency FanPost got up to 500+ comments, this actually seems like a good transition time. UDFAs are still out there to be signed but the 49ers are likely close to wrapping up their moves for now. Thus, it's time to start looking ahead to big boy free agency, which starts Friday. Teams are already telling players they can expect to be cut in the coming days and trade rumors are circulating for guys like Kevin Kolb.
The latest news is that Tavaris Jackson agreed to terms with the Seattle Seahawks. He can't sign until Friday but it sounds like he's headed to the Pacific Northwest. This kind of signing would be yet another sign that Hasselbeck is out in Seattle (where media is already tweeting he's gone). Feel free to discuss further in here.
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I won't say first...
but I’m curious as to people’s thoughts re: Hasselbeck as a Niner. I was skeptical at first, but at the end of the day I think it would improve our team, so if the price is right I’m in favor.
by Call It The Throw on Jul 26, 2011 1:58 PM PDT reply actions
priced as a backup, which he would probably be at least at-first
then fine. We need two competent QB’s who have been around block until Kaep get’s snaps vs. NFL defense.
Clicks Ruby Slippers: There's no game like football! There's no game like football!
I just Twitter'd that
I just don't see it
I would love to see it, but I think the Titans will just offer him too much money to turn down.
too much money for what he is actually worth.
would be a good fourth option on the depth chart.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I second that, but I don't think we need him.
I feel like our WR group is fine, that both Crabtree and Morgan will improve, and I’d prefer our cap to be spent on more substantial deals. Signing our own FAs should be top priority.
I definitely wouldn't want him on the team.
He’s a giant prima donna. Based on skills alone, i think he’s a huge talent upgrade over Morgan.
Vikings-Redskins
discussing Donovan McNabb
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 2:11 PM PDT reply actions
What?
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Im asking if you think he has any affect on the Niners? Do you think that the more teams that fill their QB need the better the chance Matt H ends up a Niner? Looking for your opinion
Oh
It pretty much means that he isn’t going to Seattle or Arizona. McNabb was probably never on the 49ers raider. Jackson signing with Seattle is a much bigger deal because that takes them out of the market.
You are still looking at San Francisco, Tennessee and Arizona as the three teams that Hasselbeck will go to, with Tennessee in the lead. It does, however, take Minnesota out of the Hass sweepstakes.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Ahem. Small grammar lesson, meant to be taken as nicely as possible.
Affect is a verb. Effect is a noun.
Example 1: Will McNabb have an effect on the Niners FA signings in 2011?
Example 2: Will McNabb affect the Niners FA signings in 2011?
effect can also be a verb, but is usually used incorrectly.
I hope this has enlightened some of you.
(steps off soapbox)
noone cares about there grammar. its to much work. its just a ordinary blog and were above little grammar and the verbs job and speling
by mcwagner on Jul 26, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
You will effect my affectiveness if you continue with this mcwagner
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
rec'ed
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
We aren't ordinary we are awesome
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Thank you,
NN could benefit from a few more grammar lessons! then/than?
I am ready for the second lesson today. lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
How big is your soapbox?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
as long as it is not cute little kittens
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
must resist picture
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Holds chair in one hand and whip in the other..
back away from the kitty pictures.:-)
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jul 26, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Cute kitties piss me off
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
it was just added into the terms of use for this site, that getting mad at cute kitties is a banable offense. lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions
what color is it? and did you get it at walmart?
I am looking to buy one.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
any sugestions for my real one?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm sure Walmart will be fine.
For your more sturdy soapboxes, I would suggest Ace.
Matt Leinart likely to sign with Seattle.
Wow, they are getting a bunch of backup QBs LOL
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 2:18 PM PDT reply actions
sweet
cards take kolb.
only competetion in the division is going to be st. louis if there is not second year hicups from their qb.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Tavaris
is latin for “man who can’t throw a football” look it up,it’s in the latin dictionary (quickly goes to edit all the latin dictionaries)
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jul 26, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Eagles wont re-sign any of their unrestricted free agents.
Quintin Mikell would be a great fit in SF
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 2:20 PM PDT reply actions
Mikell has signed for the Rams already
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs in 2012, hopefully! :)
Wow
really breaking. Vikings-Redskins have parameters of a deal in place for McNabb. Finances need to be worked out
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 2:23 PM PDT reply actions
kolb to cardinals, where is orton going to go?
or will denver pay him the almost 10million this year?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
renegotiate
and let them fight it out. or cut him. Orton is decent, but not $10 mil decent.
Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.
If the other option is Tebow, and with no one else on the market,
Orton may be worth 10 mil to the broncos.
Brady Quinn is on the team, do not know how much that helps as a alternative to Tebow.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Kolb to Arizona
is no guarantee, at least that is what I am hearing. Miami is still in play for his services.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Miami just needs to draft one in the first round or stick with one qb to let him develope.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Agree
I don’t know why they are so down on Henne. I think he could be a solid QB. They should focus on getting DeAngelo Williams and try to groom Henne.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
No they didn't.
Miami swooped in on that deal:
“link”: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-dolphins-sign-pat-devlin-0727,0,4690062.story
My bad, I misread the comments there.
Just saw “Kolb to Airzona” and “and they picked up Devlin”. Total fail on my part.
Tsk tsk
..no soapbox for you! (sorry in a silly mood with football being back on and such.)
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jul 26, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Donte Whitner
Anyone? Wonder how much he’s asking for.
Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.
Solid option
lacks coverage skills, but still better than Goldson in that regard. You are looking at a contract similar to Dashon, and he would be an upgrade
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Goldson and Spikes
are tweeting about how happy they are to get a lot of interest around the league. Interesting, story lines will continue with the two. No guarantee that either will be back with SF.
Plus, Spikes has always been kind to talk to me etc.., he will NOT address his current situation as it relates to the 49ers.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 2:42 PM PDT reply actions
personaly, hope they get a very huge contract. to help the niners get two decent comp picks
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I want Spikes back
You could let Goldson walk and replace him with a player like Mikell, who is better and would cost the same
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Spikes does not appear that he wants to be back here,
let him walk, he can see what winners are made of when he is on another losing team. lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed on Spikes
And agreed on Goldson really. Let him walk tack the comp we get for him and get Weddle on a 3-4 yr deal. Get a DB like Jonathan Joseph (dreaming a bit there maybe) or Josh Wilson (more realistic). Start to develop some of the young guys behind them (maybe even move Reggie back to CB or put in a half and half) and look for a 1st or second round CB next year. DB problems solved at least by next year.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jul 26, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
this
I wouldn’t mind a nice comp pick or two
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That is if we don't replace either player
I am okay with Bowman starting, but want Spikes back. I really don’t want to see both Reggie Smith and Taylor Mays starting at safety
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
you dont want to, but they will be as good if not better than goldson.
spend that money on the d-line or at the cb position rather than on goldson.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Goldson had a great 09' season before struggling in 2010
I really don’t think that Smith is an upgrade over him. I do think SF needs to start Mays from day 1 and let him grow. Something that Singletary and CO. wouldn’t do
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
09 was not great, it is what you expect from him
goldson is not special. he is average to below average safety. only reason he may be back because he was the play caller on defense. he is not good and the niners are Loaded with talent at that position, loaded. so loaded that players will be cut even if goldson is not signed.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Bowman is pretty darn good
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Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
That he is
I think him opposite Willis will make up one of the best tandems in the NFL. However, one more year with Spikes would be ideal
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
you only learn a certain amount by watching
you gotta play sooner or later
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But
TKO isn’t like Favre and doesn’t mind teaching. There is something to be said about having a veteran showing you the ropes and not having a problem helping you in every possible way.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
tko will probably want almost two million this year.
spend that money on good cb. let bowman start. keaton kristick and scott mckillop can be backups.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Um
2MM for a “good corner”? Or, are you talking about using that as SOME of the money it would take to get a good corner? Plus, TKO will get between 3-4MM
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
a penny saved is a penny earned
except we are talking about millions here
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Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
spend that two million on a good corner, not that a good corner cost 2million.
3-4 million is way too much, next.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you
guys are under estimating what TKO has meant to the 49ers defense the last couple seasons.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
ILB are not normaylly rated as being that valuable.
PWilly is there and will hold it down with almost anyone next to him.
Bowman is good and mckillop and kristick have performed well in their roles as well.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I totally agree
Takeo has been great, our defense will be weaker next year without him and BamBam has benefitted a lot from his role inside.
Is the Takeo hating based on the fact that he is sending tweets about being a free agent? I don’t get it.
by Call It The Throw on Jul 26, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Goldson Tweet
Bein a Free agent feels like college all ovr again. It feels good to see how much you are wanted and how organisations feel about you.
if feels good to know that you are not high priority
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
What else would they say? "No one wants to sign me"?
This seems like business-minded posturing to me. Build up an echo chamber effect of unattributed praise and “interest” to drive up your asking price.
That’s not to say that there aren’t teams that are legitimately interested in Takeo and Goldson, I’m sure there are, but the fact that the players themselves are tweeting about it doesn’t really surprise or concern me. Until we hear something a bit more concrete, don’t buy into the hype.
I hope we re-sign them both, personally.
by Call It The Throw on Jul 26, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Going to have an article up on FP
this evening focusing on undrafted free agents. I have heard that he is still injured and will not sign until he is fully recovered. Looking at missing the entire 2011 season
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
all the cb rumors must be coming tomorrow or thursday.
niner need d-line and cb
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done pretty well so far with the DL, not so well with DBs
Ian Williams (DL, Notre Dame)
DeMarcus Dobbs (DE, Georgia)
Sealver Siliga (DT, Utah)
Brian Bulcke (DL, Stanford)
but then we spent a lot of late round draft picks on DBs
Another
sign that San Francisco will target a “top tier” corner in free agency. Also, they have been non-committal today in regards to Clements
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy Crap
Charles Johnson resigns with Carolina for 6Y-76MD and 36MM guaranteed
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 2:54 PM PDT reply actions
12 sacks last year.
were they not close to the cap? funny how players get good stats in contract year.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Been chatting with a former 49er scout
and one thing seems clear. Not happy with Chilo Rachal at guard and may look to upgrade there this off-season.
I will say there are a lot of options on the market at guard, so that might be something to look at moving forward
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 3:06 PM PDT reply actions
finally, kwane harris jr is leaving us. I am pretty sure that is why he was not at the summer practices in san jose. he knows whats up. sing was the guy keeping him around. just wish that by cutting him the niners can save more than his one million dollar salary.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Rachal was a horrible draft choice IMO
That was then and my sentiment is the same oh and I felt the same way about Kentwan Bummer and he is gone too. Throw out the trash Harbs.
lol
hoping Iupati and Davis have a good year
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Iupati is going to the pro bowl!!
Davis is good with me as long as he keeps improving. Step one lower your penalty ratio
agreed entirely
Needs to improve on his concentration in pass protection. He has as much upside as Iupati imo
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs in 2012, hopefully! :)
what is he saying about the cb position?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Will ask him about that
For some reason it was brought up in a discussion about the possibility of Leonard Davis joining the 49ers. He said it won’t happen because Solari “doesn’t want lazy stop gaps”
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
THATS YOUR SOURCE
Ha I’m getting closer
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
LOL
so funny………NO!
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
what
killing me. I’m gonna find out who
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
I'll say it.
I’m his source….THERE
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McNabb to Vikings deal done, pending him signing a new contract
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 3:16 PM PDT reply actions
Dashon Goldson tweet
When asked “is there a good chance you stay in sf?”
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even better than "yah"; yes
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
SHOOT!!!
Quintin Mikell to the St. Louis Rams
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 3:19 PM PDT reply actions
Denver Broncos WILL move Kyle Orton
Miami and Arizona both have interest, San Francisco a sleeper. Teams could get him for a 4th or 5th round pick.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 3:22 PM PDT reply actions
Orton is due
9MM in 2011, so he wont go to SF. But, NFLN is linking him here for some reason!!
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
he is due 10million?
how will he be a sleeper for the niners?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Good question
just repeating what I just heard on the radio.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
dont make no sense.
when are the cb rumors going to be flying around? nates contract?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Was reported
that there will be no Nate Clements news today, still trying to figure out what to do. I would tend to believe that SF is gauging interest in regards to Nnamdi, Joseph, Cromartie etc.. before making a final decision on Clements.
If they believe a top tier corner is going to come here, Clements will be gone. If not, he will be restructured and they will being in a second tier player like Richard Marshall
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Sam Farmer of the LA Times
Said last night on KTLA news that the 3 teams he thinks most likely Nnamdi is going to, Houston, Philly, and SF.
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wouldn't it be something if all that talk about us not being aggresive in FA was a front..LOL
2011 season can't come quick enough..
I am hearing that too
They will have feelers out on Nnamdi, but I think he would have to take less to stay in the bay, not sure he will
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Jerry Jones is sitting behind the curtain twiddling his thumbs trying to thing of ways to get Nnamdi
With Rogers leaving Washington potentially, they could try and sneak in there too. Nnamdi and DeAngelo Hall would be a lockdown secondary
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jerry joans is twaddling his thumbs with the new hundreds of millions he is going to get every year
as a result of the players taking less. he is also trying to calculate how much his net worth went up as a result. lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
he will not have to take less, niners have room and every team will be spending almost the exact same amount this year.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
houston does not have much cap room. I even read some articles that said to think that houston has a shot at him is crazy because they do not have any cap room. of all of those teams the niners have way more than all of them when it comes to cap room.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Out of that group of teams
San Francisco is the best fit.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
link
Please include a link or say this is a prediction your making on your own.
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You're gonna get a lot of people making their own predictions on here.
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honestly
If people want to make predictions they can do that. The point of the comment was to get clarification on whether nocal was talking about a source of information or his own prediction.
by David Fucillo on Jul 26, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I predict that jerry rice is coming out of retirement to be the niners new qb.
lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
If that is in response to me
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
yes it was in response to you
But not about Clements. It was in response to your comment about Orton and the 49ers being a sleeper.
by David Fucillo on Jul 26, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
It was on Serious radio
And, I was just putting it out there as to what I heard. I hadn’t linked or identified that there was a source. I also concluded it to be pretty crazy because of his 10MM contract.
Sorry if it was ambiguous, but I didn’t see it that way.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
rice might go to Seattle
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Rice
is being linked their because of Jackson and their o-coordinator.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah but I think he will go to the Bears personally
They are closer to being contenders
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thought there a legitimate source
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Wouldn't surprise me
they were looking for a #1 WR last year too. Were involved in the Brandon Marshall thing as well as Vincent Jackson
any knews on JJ?
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CB from Bengals is the only JJ I'll ask about to clear up the future.
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Fine...
But there was also James Jones that was interested in the Niners.
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Well if it someone else
I will be using their name JJ will always be the CB. So on that note did you hear anything about JJ.
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all of them
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Josh Johnson or Johnathan Joseph?
Kaepernick may have some growing to do as a passer, but you don't get to 10,000 yards passing in college without being able to read a defense.
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the cb from the bengals
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the FA one
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Drew you know what is funny?
The Cardinals could add Kolb and the Hawks both Leinart and Jackosn and SF would still have the 2nd best QB in the division in Alex Smith LOL
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Hoping he will be the 1st.
Sam Bradford could have a good ol’ case of the sophomore slumps. Particularly with having to learn a more complicated offense than he did last year.
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Bradford got alexed man
he might get alexed again at the end of this season.
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More to the point, here are the DVOA ratings for each QB in the NFCW:
A Smith: -5.8%
S Bradford: -9.3%
M Hasselbeck: -10.1%
T Smith: -12.8%
D Anderson: -18.1%
C Whitehurst: -26.0%
J Skelton: -46.9%
R Bartel: -49.7%
D Carr: -51.1%
M Hall: -99.1%
T Jack , just gave us the upper hand against the Seahawks , he's not very good ...!!
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Not in the slightest
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
We'll see.
I am positive we will see an improvement at the position in 2011 vs 2010
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Really thats why the Vikes went way far out on a limb to draft Ponder because T Jack is so good ... funny you ...!!
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Be willing to bet , that Leinart beats out T Jack ...!!
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LOL
if Leinart beats out Tarvaris that means Seattle is getting Luck!!!
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Leinart's pretty underrated.
Which isn’t hard for him because he’s very, very lowly rated. but still, I think he could compete for 3rd best QB in the NFCW.
Leinart.
He pretty much admitted to being a bust not to long ago. Waiving the white flag won’t get you far in the NFL
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Still believe Nnamdi wants to stay in the bay
I think Tavaris in Seattle is hilarious.
Hoping Orton doesn’t come into our division.
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
I do have to say that Orton surprised me last year
and if the rumors that the Broncos are letting him go for a 4th or 5th are true that’s also surprising. Amazing what a $10 million hit against the cap will do
BREAKING: Veteran free agent o-lineman Damien Woody is retiring, per source. #nyj #jets
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free agents
what do you guys think about getting cullen jenkins? if its the right price, and what about Mike Huff? or do you think he had a good season because it was a contract year?
The skins are going to overpay for Jenkins, so he is off limits. Don’t worry that is my OPININON, so no link needed. Huff wouldn’t be an upgrade over Goldson
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
So
The Indianapolis Colts gave Nate Davis a two year contract
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 4:06 PM PDT reply actions
Nate Davis is the colts future
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Davis
actually has a great mentor to learn from if he makes it through camp
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
pretty sure everyone is an upgrade over painter
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Even Carr?
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His head is going to spin being next to Manning.
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I wonder when the campaign will start to bench Peyton for Nate
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When Peyton Manning is 42 years old and refuses to retire...
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lol I'll start the campain
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Haha, Colts are so screwed when manning retires.
If they’re smart they’ll pick up a QB first round next year.
Peyton said he has a good 5-6 years left
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Sadly his arm is going
His analysis and decision making skills are just getting better, but he’s losing that zip on the deep outs.
I think maybe he does have 5-6 good years left, but maybe his best years are already played.
if you can throw it where the D cant get it does it make a difference about your arm strength
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Problem is on some routes
it takes that zip to get it to where the D can’t get it.
I’ve watched alot of Colts games due to them being my father being a fan. They need their next guy soon to start learning from Peyton.
Maybe he doesn't have the zip on the long ball (not convinced on that)
but his short to medium ball hasn’t declined at all.
I’ve always really admired Peyton Manning—He could be a great offensive coordinator or coach in the league if he wanted to, but I’m sure he’ll end up in broadcasting.
he said he couldn't coach
saying its harder to be an OC than it is to be a QB.
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I honestly believe that he meant it
he said something along the lines that its easy to call plays when you are at the line of scrimmage and you know what the D is showing harder when you are standing on the sidelines.
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Oh his short to medium hasn't declined at all.
And he can (and needs to) put much more arc on his deep ball than his 12-15 yard outs so he doesn’t have any problem at all on go and seam routes.
But on the 12-15 yard outs the ball needs to be thrown on a frozen rope right at the sideline, and from the middle of the field that’s a 30 yard ball.
I’m sure he’d be wasted as a broadcaster since he’s practically an OC now — but maybe he’d enjoy it more than having to work with QBs not even close to half his talent level.
They better hope to high heaven he does not get a career ending injury.
Curtis Painter and Nate Davis? Eeek
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I wouldn't touch either.
I’d rather have Reggie Wayne in at QB.
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Sapp just said the niners should trade for Kolb
ya not gonna happen
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Link?
LOL
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Go to NFLN
its a tv channel or if I can post a link to the show I will but I don’t want to get in trouble.
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I was just messing with you
sarcasm
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
just do [sarcasm]
makes it easier for me.
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Lol barrows is so funny
When doors opened this morning the first two 49ers to enter were a pair of rookies, @Kaepernick7 and @bmiller_49. (Teacher’s pets).
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Kaep is gunning for that starting job.
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Bmiller_49 is a rookie
dude is a really nice guy. I like him
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We will have a roster that consists of 46 Smith's that dress on gameday within the next 3 years
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That should make it a bit easier.
Then all you have to do when asked a question about the Niners is say “Smith”
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Actually I just guess Smith or Davis if I don't know the answer
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We'll be awesome
until Neo shows up, with some matrix action!
Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.
Anthony Dixon's latest tweet
Taking a physical,he want 5 tubes of blood my face hot already,ion know America! I’m think he need to bring me a sandwich first! :)
Dude makes absolutely no sense.
I think a physical has a part where they check the balls
I think thats where he is talking about a sandwhich.
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His brain isn't what it used to be
after getting stuffed at the line so many times
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back to school four you
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Rams 4 years 28 million for Mikell
He’s 31, I doubt he’s an upgrade over Otogwe.
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Almost 31*
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Yeah
that doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. If they were going to pay for a safety why not re-sign Atogwe?
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
a year older too
Atogwe is a lot better than Mikell in coverage also imo.
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7 mil a year for a 31 year old and fans here think Goldson is going to be 5/yr
is reality setting in yet?
by whistlingmountain on Jul 26, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Harbs wasn't kidding when he said they were keeping it tight to the vest huh!
haven’t heard much in the way of rumors anyone? I know about the alleged Hass interest!
LOL
Palmer signed a contract he made a commitment lol I’ll remember that the next time he cuts a player.
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shoot I meant to write that
Palmer signed a contract he made a commitment
- Mike Brown
lol I’ll remember that the next time he cuts a player.
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and he also made a commitment to not be a dirt bag owner.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
just being stupid and cheap.
he is trying to go for a negative record this year. first time ever for the nfl. he want to be -16 in the winz colum with 16 losses. do not ask me how that is possible.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
They may as well put up signs now on their Freeways...
“Welcome Andrew Luck”
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The idiot could've signed
Andrew Luck and Landry Jones next year if he wanted.
Whata loser…
No wonder everybody wants out.
I think there is a good possibility that Joseph, Dahani Jones, and pretty much all their FA’s will leave…even if it means taking less money.
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he will have to sign UDFA to huge contracts so that he can spend the requried amount. it is going to be interesting on how he meets the requirements.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
And the really funny part is that Palmer can unretire next year and Brown will be forced to trade him anyway because of the cap.
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haha
I would like to see that
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I don't like Brown
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Just agreed with DB Cory Nelms
http://twitter.com/#!/MaioccoCSN/status/95997368540995585
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Definitely
But thats his fault he can only roll a 7.6 forty so he got to the phone to slow.
So done with Hurricane CB's
after the Mike Rumph project
by SnakesOnAPlane on Jul 26, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
he just wasn't durable
Rumph was a decent tackler should have plaed FS from the start. However he was not durable
Regardless
still was not worth our 1st round pick that year
by SnakesOnAPlane on Jul 26, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Curtis Holcomb is in the building (after some long flights to the Bay). He’ll be wearing # 41.
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Burress off to the Giants possibly
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Pretty Funny Stuff Here
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Stanford got sum nice looking women,I’m jus saying!
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 4:32 PM PDT reply actions
ya he is pretty funny
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He has my favorite personality of anybody on the team
by SnakesOnAPlane on Jul 26, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
was TKO......
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
When
you actually understand what Dixon is talking about he is funny
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Half the reason I like him
is the fact that most of what he says is jibberish.
by SnakesOnAPlane on Jul 26, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Dixon is funny
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Been there done that with you
He will be back. Trust me!!!
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
nope, his gone.(yes I know it is supposed to be he is or he's)
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
No.
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Yup.
he wants to be a winner
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dirty birds
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Naw... I cannot see him going anywhere.
He likes it where he is at…. If he does, I hope we go after Dahani Jones… I am not sure Bowman is ready yeat.
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bowman is ready.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Staley
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Xcbyer on JJ
@manraj76 Nothing signifant. I can say this though. The fact Mike Brown is HAVING to spend money may make him staying a likely possibility
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I think JJ will have to get more than Nnamdi to stay on that team. lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Cinci doesn't even have an indoor facility
it snows in Cinci. What a horrible organization.
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ya,
the team does horrible and yet everyone can stay no one is fired.
chad and T.O. run their own routes whenever they want, no one cares.
lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the Rams are gonna get Cofield
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs in 2012, hopefully! :)
Yeah... he's their most important player on the D
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Noel Devine to the Eagles
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You have to remove the #!
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Alex has signed officially now supposedly
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs in 2012, hopefully! :)
Hows our cap space looking like?
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good, carr and chilo rachal will be cut to make room for the 5million lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
why rachal...
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs in 2012, hopefully! :)
he was singletay boy, singletary is gone.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
he’s not very good…
Got love for the WCC
by SnakesOnAPlane on Jul 26, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
he can sign?
I thought it was not until friday that he can sign?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Agrees to a contract
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oh
I thought I missed something lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
are you saying that the niners are commiting contract fraud?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Why is that contract fraud?
If it is sitting in a drawer somewhere post dated, who is going to know?
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lol, just the notary.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
So you are saying that the Notary is going to break in to Niners HQ to steal the contract to prove it was fraudulent?
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nope, the notary would have to agree to it. notary are supposed to witness the signing rite?
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Do you honestly think that all these "verbal" commitments are only that?
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yes, written out but still verbal committments.
look at what happened last year with that RB.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Blount
the only thing he ever signed was his paper before rolling it
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
ESPN
Smith agrees to a contract with Niners
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I am so shocked
I can’t believe it. Alex Smith re-signed with the 49ers? Wow, the clouds are raining frogs….this is just plain crazy. What is the world coming to? I didn’t see that happening
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Would you believe
He’s going into his 7th coordinator in 7 years…
Got love for the WCC
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No way.......
I thought McCarthy was our offensive coordinator still? What happened? Where did he go? craziness
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
In case you didn't notice
sarcasm
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't notice...
See? I just countered your sarcasm with sarcasm
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by SnakesOnAPlane on Jul 26, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't notice that you notice that I didn't notice
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
well is this before or after camp?
because Kaep is gonna beat out Smith
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Yay Alex , the deal is real QBOTF ...!!
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Looking at what other teams have been doing
Alex could have easily got more than 5 million somewhere else.
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you mean 30, the niners are not
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I think San Francisco
will take a look at Plaxico
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
no way.
still have dead money from the last loser wr free agent.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
It won't be a long term contract
But, I am hoping for James Jones instead. That would be a solid addition
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Let's just all combine our hopes for Kyle Williams and a healthy stellar season.
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You don't think
James Jones would be an immediate upgrade over Morgan?
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I am hopeing that the niners trade josh morgan
sign no free agent wr, and let kyle williams and the new drafted guy compete for the number two spot.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
ninercaphell is so much nicer now.
http://www.ninercaphell.com/yearly/2011/salary2011/DESC
easy to check out dead money now.
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thanks
Im in the process of updating it for each cap year page. Just gotta add fields for each year.
this may have been asked before
if heitman is placed on injured reserved or they reach an injury settelment with heitman, his salary this year will not count towards the cap?
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The Patriots
release Tully Banta-Cain and he was inured. There is a lot of ambiguity in regards to that. I will try to clarify
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
that is about 2.5 million
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The salaries are partially guaranteed
according to the new CBA. No idea how it effects salary cap.
There’s also a line in the summaries that both sides sent out saying something about performance bonuses not counting—if this is true that would make it much easier to keep Clements,
clearing up the space time
Cutting clements – 15.65m
Carr- 2.375m
Norris 1.5m
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Nedney also
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Brown too
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I would have to check on Brown
It wouldnt be much of a cap hit i dont think.
shoot
I keep forgetting to total up future signing bonuses. Are those totals right?
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calculating dead money is quite confusing
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it is
Usually the only money counting is SB’s, usually workout and roster bonuses arent guaranteed.
so dead money is just adding all of the SB together
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His entire base salary is saved
i think 1.8M
I think we save about 22.195m
if we cut carr, clements, norris, nedney, and brown.
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I like him a lot
really solid player. Love what the 49ers did in the UNDFA pool!
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
We are going
to sign a couple solid vets there, so I wouldn’t worry too much about that at this point. Plus, I am extremely high on Holcomb and Culliver
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Holcomb could start if he pushes himself... I honestly believe that. I think he does too.
Culliver may wind up being a back up for one of the safeties.
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Holcomb could end up being a real steal
would love to see him get a lot of action in pre-season and some seasoning in the rotation in 2011, then bigger things moving forward
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
no need once Nnamdi and JJ come on the team. Man to Man coverage all day. rush 9 all day.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
You have to stop
traveling to Humboldt on the weekend. It really affects your early week mindset
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
it is financialy possible though.
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Jennifer Lopez and Eva Longroria are single. They are possibilities for me too…………but
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
ya, but they may be out of your league. those two players are in the same league that the san francisco niners play in. lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Nnamdi and Eric Wright!
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We have plenty of people who can compete for that nickel cB
if the 49ers manage to land a top name DB in free agency then I’m ok with not signing a bunch of camp bodies
It really depends on what they do.
Is Clements going? Staying? Where will Culliver play? Curtis Taylor? There a TON of question marks at all the DB positions….
I was just hoping for a lot of guys there competing for spots with consideration to how poorly they were last year. I think some of that had to do with scheme but not all of it.
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One major difference
Ed Donatell. This dude is going to make a huge difference for Taylor Mays, Reggie Smith, Shawntae Spencer and even Dashon Goldson, if he returns
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
spencer and goldson can go.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Mike Sando on Seattle's QB situation
The Seattle Seahawks will apparently have five quarterbacks on their roster heading into training camp.
Five equals zero for the time being because none of those quarterbacks has proven he can win or keep a starting job in the NFL.
Not a huge fan of his, but Sando is right on the freaking money with that one
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I know
pretty epic. I came to that conclusion as well
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
was a writer*
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they are following the method that the cardinals took last year.
just hope it is just as funny. lol
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Over/Under
on Alex Smith having best season of any NFC West QB?
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
dennis erickson right there.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
A little different
he can now legally pay his players. I wonder if Leinart is going to make more this season than he did at USC?
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Just finished with physicals.. On the stanfurd campus looking for @serenawilliams
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Did he purposely misspell Stanford?
I sure hope so
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Well he did go to Cal....
So I wouldn’t put it past him.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jul 26, 2011 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Pro Football Weekly on Seattle's QBs
The problem now, though, is that neither Whitehurst, Jackson, nor Leinart appears to offer anything resembling a significant improvement over Hasselbeck, who, to his credit, did lead the Seahawks to four division titles and a Super Bowl, in addition to excelling as a classy team leader
I hope this gets comical for the Seachickens
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:27 PM PDT reply actions
It really makes you believe that the Niners could in fact win the division
by sanfranfanmdk on Jul 26, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
they almost did last year.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions
revenge for last year.
will Harbaugh pile the points on and another what is your deal man?
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The longer without any news
The more likely it is that Aubrayo and Lawson will walk
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Let them both walk
SF can sign a veteran to replace Franklin for much cheaper and utilize Soap, RJF and Williams on a rotational basis
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
If they replace Franklin as is, that will not work. But as Allforfunnplay explained to me earlier, that Fangio will run a hybrid 4-3 where both Soap and RJF can concentrate on gap penetration which they are good at. A lot depends on the scheme that will be implemented and I don’t think even Fangio even knows what he will do.
What veteran can they sign at that position?
I’m really curious to hear what you think on this, because I don’t see it.
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You lost LOL
Seriously that would be completely messed up.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
are you sure
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Page doesn't lie LOL
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
refresh it brother
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Mine says Manraj is first
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muhahahahahahaha
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@Manraj
WINNING!
Uh oh that Twitter slang got to me LOL
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
all I do is #win
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When
playing against yourself in Bubble Breaker
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I beat you didn't I
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barrows tweeted that it is not looking good.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess Harbaugh thinks Bowman is ready
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Dude
Takeo Spikes talking with Seattle
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:40 PM PDT reply actions
he wants to be a "winner" lol
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Mindi Bach
Takeo Spikes talking with Seattle and San Diego
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Dammit
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TKO
Will not sign with Seattle, mark my words! San Diego does remain a possibility.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Agree
he most likely wants to go to a team with a chance at the playoffs, and the way Seattle is going, they definitely don’t look like they’ll get there
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You also have to look at defensive scheme
He doesn’t fit well in Seattle
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Dontavia Bogan
Just got to the field about to run routes #NinerNation
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hmm Kaep gets starting reps until August 4th
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I just can’t stand listening to them together. You can’t hear what anyone is saying on the set because both just sit there and holler over one and other.
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I like Sapp as a commentator
except he and Dukes seem to need to get into a pissing contest whenever they’re on together.
If Takeo doesn't re-sign...
The FO really needs to make a push for both Aubrayo and Lawson…. or we will struggle agains the run badly.
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Not necessarily
Bowman is going to be strong against the rush, his major issue is dropping into coverage at this point. RJF, Soap and Williams are also pretty strong in the running game. I would worry about Aldon replacing Lawson in that aspect however
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I really don't think Soap or Williams will be ready
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Why not Soap?
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Just feel like there will be a massive drop-off from Aubrayo to Soap.
I hope he does great if he is the NT, but I have my doubts
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Eh
Much as like TKO, I think the drop off between him and Bowman isn’t hugely significant. I’d like to retain TKO just to give Bowman another year but it’s not a huge loss if he leaves.
I don't think the drop-off is significant either.
But losing Aubrayo and Lawson, and Takeo, I feel we will struggle greatly against the run. Don’t see how Soap can be nearly as effective as Aubrayo, nor Aldon Smith as a rookie as Lawson in setting the edge.
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they did draft bowman last year.
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Barrows
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Disgusting
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought kung fu panda played baseball
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Pablo Sandoval, yes
But TKO did that one dance on a sack a year or two ago and a lot of people said he was doing the “Kung Fu Panda”
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That was scary
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Not doing great today though
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Yikes
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If Takeo doesn't re-sign, and Aubrayo doesn't either...
Move towards the 4-3? I thought Takeo might not re-sign yesterday. Both Bowman and Lawson are more natural fits in a 4-3.
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It would make sense
Lawson is definitely a better fit for a 4-3. I hope we don’t though—I think a 3/4 is better suited to stopping both the run and the pass
I prefer the 3-4 too
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Actually the more I think about it
the more this idea makes sense based on the directions of a whole day’s worth of free agency
Aldon and Justin on the ends
McDonald (who is more natural at DT anyways) and Soap or Mebane! (Hopefully) playing inside, Lawson P Will and Bowman
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jumping the gun a little fast there.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Any news on Nnamdi?
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Not really, he's talking to the Jets
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What for a minimum deal?
Even with Sanchez restructuring his contract the Jets have nowhere near the cap room for him
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Exactly
I think he signs with Tampa or Baltimore
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Tampa
isn’t in the market for him. Let me try to find that link.
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Can be done I think,
If Revis restructures, and only Holmes is re-signed.
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They still would be in no position to acquire him
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Revis
I really don’t think he will restructure. Plus, the Jets have that 11MM franchise tender set for David Harris
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I don't see how they can do it
Was reported on ESPN
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs in 2012, hopefully! :)
ESPN
would report on what Nnamdi’s bowel movement looked like if they had that inside information
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
sources: they look normal
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Didn't Revis just get a huge payday?
why would he restructure, especcially to add someone to the roster to compete with him?
Yeah, but he performed really really badly last season
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs in 2012, hopefully! :)
Did he get much playing time?
can’t see how he could’ve with those two in front of him on the depth chart. I just seem to remember the Jets stocking up on CBs in the draft.
Yeah he played quite a bit in Nickel packages early on
But got benched. He really was very bad. Poor play recognition, didn’t locate the football… I dunno if Rex Ryan will be happy with him as the second corner. Ryan does rly like his corners too
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs in 2012, hopefully! :)
huh
he was an outstanding college player. probably not used to the complexity of the different looks he was facing in the NFL.
I know he was a great college player
Just saying, after his first season struggles, I doubt Ryan will be happy with having him replace Cromartie
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs in 2012, hopefully! :)
Sanchez mentioned it.
I think he said that both he and Revis has talked about restructuring
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs in 2012, hopefully! :)
That's what Revis told him LOL
to trick him into restructuring :-)
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jul 26, 2011 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions
no way.
nnamdi will get 15million at least. revis is going to want a huge extension. image in two year revis and nnamdi making 30plus million a year.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions
everybody's talking about Nmadi with $15 million but I can't see it
If he wants that $15 million there are only two or three teams that would be able to pay him, much less willing.
Even $3 million per less at $12 million per season average would have many more buyers interested in him and he’d have his pick of teams. At that price he can negotiate a bigger signing bonus and a longer term deal, both are things that players really want.
there are plenty of teams that can pay him that much, including the niners.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
cut carr, norris and clements.
carr saves 2,237000
norris 1,500,000
clements 14,500,000
cap increase this year allowed 3,500,000
borrowed from futures years 3,000,000
equals 24,737,000.00
still leaves plenty of room baby!!!
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
plus there is 2,280,000 from practice squaders like lance long xavier omron etc. plenty of room.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions
we don't need to borrow money
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
at $18 million under right now, that makes $42 million
So let’s look at this right now. $16 million to sign Nmadi. Now we have $26 million. Alex Smith was just signed for $5 million, leaving us $21 million. Baas will take at least $4 million, leaving $17 million. Mcdonald will want at least $4 million (and that’s if he’s a starter, $6 million if not). That leaves us $11 million. Lawson will want at least Haralson money, so we’re talking another $5 million. Now we have $6 million left with none of our rookies signed.
If Nmadi gets $16 million it won’t be from the 49ers. It’ll be from a team looking for that one missing piece and that’s not this one.
we aren't at 18m
7m for rookies
5m for smith
only have 6 mil left
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Subtract 12 mil from 42
there…….30
Nnamdi Asomugha is a class act if there has ever been one. 3 Year 45 million, No Jewels at all, SIGN THE MAN, 16 Mil? So pay him!!
UWBA, can make me the happiest fan of 2011!!!!!
no
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Same Diff.....
Nnamdi Asomugha is a class act if there has ever been one. 3 Year 45 million, No Jewels at all, SIGN THE MAN, 16 Mil? So pay him!!
UWBA, can make me the happiest fan of 2011!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRzMtlZjXpU
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
I should listen to the whole song before I post it.
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
45million actually unless you want lance long on the team.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions
lawson will want more than parly 2-3 million a year, you way overestimated how much parly makes.
I am not sure that the niners want lawson back and baas making 4million a year is a little high as well as mcdonald.
since you way over estimated the salaries and under esitmated how much room there is, you can see that there is actually room to pay him that much and still sign alot of other players.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
ya I don't think Lawson will be back
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Haralson's deal
was 5 years $15 million. Average $3 million per year. If Lawson is getting lots of interest from around the league $5 million per year average is not unreasonable.
Baas at $4 million per year is way undervalued for a center—see today’s post on why.
McDonald’s salary last year was $3.95 million. Why wouldn’t he expect to get paid at least that going forward, especially when the team has already told him that they want him back and there’s interest in him around the league.
Haralson's deal along with Soap, are the reason our defense will suffer this year.
We locked Soap up long term, but what were we locking up, potential? GTFOHWTBS, cut him too….
Nnamdi Asomugha is a class act if there has ever been one. 3 Year 45 million, No Jewels at all, SIGN THE MAN, 16 Mil? So pay him!!
UWBA, can make me the happiest fan of 2011!!!!!
they are only 7million together. Ahmad Brooks is even worse. he will make Paryl money but not even start.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions
5
Nnamdi Asomugha is a class act if there has ever been one. 3 Year 45 million, No Jewels at all, SIGN THE MAN, 16 Mil? So pay him!!
UWBA, can make me the happiest fan of 2011!!!!!
he is making 4.9million this year. and he has not been a backup. he has been the LDE starter. sakcs are one thing but stuffing the run is exactly what he does. there is a good reason the niners are very good in the run. and he is part of it.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Right, not even a full million underJ Smith this year and not even half of the production......WASTE
Nnamdi Asomugha is a class act if there has ever been one. 3 Year 45 million, No Jewels at all, SIGN THE MAN, 16 Mil? So pay him!!
UWBA, can make me the happiest fan of 2011!!!!!
justin smith gets sacks, soap stops the run.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Smith stops the run. Smith makes OLB's on his side of the field get overpaid as well, I already did the math, he aint worth the money....
Nnamdi Asomugha is a class act if there has ever been one. 3 Year 45 million, No Jewels at all, SIGN THE MAN, 16 Mil? So pay him!!
UWBA, can make me the happiest fan of 2011!!!!!
get overpaid? lol
who would that be? niners do not pay any olb that much? stopping the run is worth loads.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, he aids them financially, by making them appear to have potential.
Brooks and Haralson cashed in playing on the same side as Smith.
Nnamdi Asomugha is a class act if there has ever been one. 3 Year 45 million, No Jewels at all, SIGN THE MAN, 16 Mil? So pay him!!
UWBA, can make me the happiest fan of 2011!!!!!
so when justin smith has one of his best years, haralson has one of his worst?
last year.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Justin had one of his best when Haralson had his.
Smith had a better year, haralson declined, go figure.
Nnamdi Asomugha is a class act if there has ever been one. 3 Year 45 million, No Jewels at all, SIGN THE MAN, 16 Mil? So pay him!!
UWBA, can make me the happiest fan of 2011!!!!!
this is another fact that you stated wrong in that many days.
McDonald signed a four-year, $2.257 million rookie contract, which he maximized by reaching playing-time incentives that increased his $550,000 2010 base salary to $1.101 million.
http://www.macsfootballblog.com/2011/06/49ers-de-ray-mcdonald-wants-to-start.html
where did you get that McDonald made 3.95million last year? he was in his last year of his rookie contract?
are you purposely mistating facts?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
he was not tenered last year. he was drafted in 2007
2007
2008
2009
2010
is four years, he signed a four year rookie contract. FOUR years. his whole four year contract was for 2.257million for four years.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions
please post where you are getting your facts from?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
any links for this tender on the last year of his rookie contract?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
so no link on how he was tendered 3.95 million on the lasty year of his rookie contract for 2.something million?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know about you
but I do have a life outside of Niners Nation.
Anyways, you can ignore that bit about McDonald—the Niners offered him a tender at a 1st and 3rd round pick this season, not last.
The payout for that would’ve been $3.95 million, which is where I got that from. At the same time Lawson and Goldson were offered RFA tenders.
Also, I'm not sure that the $3 million roster exemption works that way
but I could be wrong. There are still a whole bunch of questions about how the salary cap is going to work out.
49ers 2011 cap value 49ers 2011 cap value
Adams, Phillip CB (current) $419,462.00
Balmer, Kentwan DT (traded) $1,646,750.00
Balogun, Mike LB (released) $2,125.00
Boone, Alex OL (current) $405,000.00
Bowman, Navorro LB (current) $580,562.00
Brock, Tramaine CB (released) $250.00
Brock, Tramaine CB (current) $405,000.00
Brooks, Ahmad LB (current) $2,400,000.00
Brown, Jarrett QB (released) $1,600.00
Brown, Tarell CB (current) $1,680,750.00 ???
Byham, Nate TE (current) $431,550.00
Carr, David QB (current) $2,375,000.00 ******** 2,375,000
Clements, Nate CB (current) $17,366,666.00 6,000,000
Cloherty, Colin TE (current) $405,000.00 ********** 405,000
Coffee, Glen RB (released) $414,122.00 ??
Crabtree, Michael WR (current) $5,734,000.00
Davis, Anthony OL (current) $2,354,166.00
Davis, Nate QB (released) $75,150.00
Davis, Vernon TE (current) $6,974,666.00
Dixon, Anthony RB (current) $435,150.00
Gibson, Thaddeus DE (current) $405,000.00
Ginn, Ted WR (current) $1,443,750.00
Gore, Frank RB (current) $7,133,000.00
Haralson, Parys LB (current) $2,150,000.00
Heitmann, Eric OL (current) $2,562,500.00 ********** $2,562,500
Howell, Nick OL (current) $330,000.00 330,000 330,000
Iupati, Mike OL (current) $1,732,500.00
Jean-Francois, Ricky DT (current) $490,750.00
Jennings, Brian LS (current) $1,086,000.00
Joseph, Alex LB (current) $330,000.00 *********** 330,000
Jurovich, Kevin WR (current) $330,000.00 *********** 330,000
Kopa, Matt OL (released) $3,000.00
Kristick, Keaton LB (released) $7,875.00
Kristick, Keaton LB (current) $405,000.00
Lee, Andy P/K (current) $1,281,666.00
Long, Lance WR (current) $405,000.00 *********** 405,000
Long, Scott WR (released) $2,300.00
Maragos, Chris S (released) $2,500.00
Maragos, Chris S (current) $405,000.00
Mays, Taylor S (current) $782,000.00
McKillop, Scott LB (current) $528,062.00
Morgan, Joshua WR (current) $581,500.00
Nedney, Joe P/K (current) $1,870,000.00
Norris, Moran RB (current) $1,927,500.00 *********** 1,500,000
Omon, Xavier RB (current) $480,000.00 ******** 480,000
Perry, Jared WR (released) $2,600.00
Rachal, Chilo OL (current) $1,091,000.00
Robinson, Michael RB (released) $480,000.00
Scaccia, Fabrizio P/K (current) $330,000.00 *********** 330,000
Smith, Justin DE (current) $5,500,000.00
Smith, Reggie FS (current) $751,000.00
Snyder, Adam OL (current) $2,100,000.00
Sopoaga, Isaako DE (current) $4,955,000.00
Spencer, Shawntae CB (current) $3,200,000.00 *********** 3,100,000
Staley, Joe OL (current) $2,159,750.00
Stoudamire, Patrick CB (released) $2,500.00
Taylor, Curtis S (current) $494,970.00
Tukuafu, Will DE (current) $405,000.00
Vann, LeRoy CB (released) $1,250.00
Walker, Delanie TE (current) $1,610,000.00
Wallace, Cody OL (released) $122,125.00
Williams, Kyle WR (current) $424,837.00
Willis, Patrick LB (current) $7,184,333.00
Zeigler, Dominique WR (current) $480,000.00
alex smith $5,000,000.00
Nnamdi Assomougha $18,000,000.00
David Baas $3,250,000.00
Ray Mcdonald DL $2,850,000.00
DL 400,000
Adam Froman qb 400,000
Takeo Spikes lb
Colin Kaepernick qb 750,000
Bruce Miller fb 400,000
Daniel Kilgore ol 400,000
Colin Jones fs 400,000
Mike Person ol 400,000
Kendal Hunter rb 525,000
Ronald Johnson wr 400,000
Aldon Smith olb 2,650,000
Chris Culliver cb 575,000
Curtis Holcomb cb 400,000
$138,876,237.00 18147500
$120,729,142
the 138million is adding everyone up before they are cut or salary cut. the 120 is the final number. check out that roster paying Nnamdi 18million a year.
this would be paying Nnamdi 18million a year, putting clements pay at 9million this year, cutting carr, norris, spencer and all the practice squaders. under cap without the exemptions and borrowing.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions
the *******************
means you want to cut him?
Also cut Nedney keep Frabrizio
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Cut T brown too, why keep him?
Nnamdi Asomugha is a class act if there has ever been one. 3 Year 45 million, No Jewels at all, SIGN THE MAN, 16 Mil? So pay him!!
UWBA, can make me the happiest fan of 2011!!!!!
I dunno
hes not very good. Culliver/Holcomb/Adams will step in
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
More money saved, I personally would look at this season as a total fat trimmer.
Dead weight has to shake.
Nnamdi Asomugha is a class act if there has ever been one. 3 Year 45 million, No Jewels at all, SIGN THE MAN, 16 Mil? So pay him!!
UWBA, can make me the happiest fan of 2011!!!!!
ya, stars mean cut.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions
got that
still cut nedney. Consistently injured and its time to bring in new blood.
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
adds even more moeny.
niners have money. they can spend loads this year.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
If we're the team paying $18 million for Nmadi
we deserve the scorn and mockery we’ll end up. It’ll be Nate Clements all over again.
ya, ok.
so now Nnamdi sucks? before it was we did not have enough room for him.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions
have I ever said Clements sucks? Ever?
It would be paying top dollar for a player and then getting him in his declining years. When the 49ers signed Clements it made him the highest paid defensive player ever and was regarded as going a bit overboard. If we pay $18 million per season for Nmadi it’s going to be the exact same thing.
$18 million per season!?! Who in the world is throwing around that number but you? Most people are saying $15-16 million and I don’t think he’ll end up with that much. I think his final deal will be closer to $12-13 million with a fairly signficant chunk of guaranteed money.
Yea right, Nnamdi's specialty is coverage not tackling, wtf?
Nnamdi Asomugha is a class act if there has ever been one. 3 Year 45 million, No Jewels at all, SIGN THE MAN, 16 Mil? So pay him!!
UWBA, can make me the happiest fan of 2011!!!!!
Again with taking things out of context
I want Nmadi. I don’t think he’s worth $18 million. I don’t think any player on the football team other than a quarterback is worth that much. I don’t think he’s worth $15 million per year.
If we end up paying him $18 million per year like HH wants we’ll be overpaying for one player who in a couple of years will start hitting his decline. Exactly the same thing that happened with Nate Clements (who, BTW, is still just fine in run support).
Clements is probably the BEST run supporting CB. But he is the bottom 10 percent in coverage.
Nnamdi will get better with age and move to Safety. He will bring excellent technique to all of our corners. He won’t demand a contract, he’s not that type of guy. he will take about 13-15 mil, and he’s worth it, one side of the field is shut the F DOWN!!!
Nnamdi Asomugha is a class act if there has ever been one. 3 Year 45 million, No Jewels at all, SIGN THE MAN, 16 Mil? So pay him!!
UWBA, can make me the happiest fan of 2011!!!!!
He could get 18 if he wanted to play anywhere. He isn't playing for money he has enough.
Nnamdi Asomugha is a class act if there has ever been one. 3 Year 45 million, No Jewels at all, SIGN THE MAN, 16 Mil? So pay him!!
UWBA, can make me the happiest fan of 2011!!!!!
That was the whole point of my original comment
there are only a couple of teams who can afford to pay him (both in money and roster) that kind of salary. If he goes to $13-15 million he opens himself up to any team in the league and will be able to sign with whomever he wants.
UWBA,,,,,CMON, CMON, CMOOOOOOON!!!!
Nnamdi Asomugha is a class act if there has ever been one. 3 Year 45 million, No Jewels at all, SIGN THE MAN, 16 Mil? So pay him!!
UWBA, can make me the happiest fan of 2011!!!!!
So maybe location will play a factor in his decision.
Hopefully
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so are we talking about clements or Nnamdi?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions
you brought up clements sucking when we were talking about Nnamdi and you saying Nnamdi was not going to be playing good.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I've never said Clements sucked
I said we paid top dollar for him at the peak of his career and then got to watch him decline.
If we pay Nmadi anything more than $12-14 million per season it’ll be the same situation. We’ll get him at the peak of his career and get to watch him decline and have to shed him at the end of it.
same situation, do you know how much clements has been paid by the niners so far?
Nnamdi is not going to hurt the niners, you are tying to change the arguement from not being able to pay Nnamdi to Nnamdi is not that good.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
No I'm not
good grief. I’m saying he’s not worth more than $15 million per year, definitely not worth $20 million per year. I’m saying that if we pay $18 million per year like you want us to do I can see a similar situation to Clements where we pay top dollar for a top CB and then don’t get full value.
Clements was never a top CB, ever, this is why I say it's a different situation. Nnamdi is better than Revis.
Nnamdi Asomugha is a class act if there has ever been one. 3 Year 45 million, No Jewels at all, SIGN THE MAN, 16 Mil? So pay him!!
UWBA, can make me the happiest fan of 2011!!!!!
BTW, I would make 16 my peak but pitch him 13 and talk about what we want to do as a franchise.
Nnamdi Asomugha is a class act if there has ever been one. 3 Year 45 million, No Jewels at all, SIGN THE MAN, 16 Mil? So pay him!!
UWBA, can make me the happiest fan of 2011!!!!!
value is determined by the market so no matter what the niners will be getting full value. his contract can be structed to pay him evenly so even if he is cut there is not cap hit when he is.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
You're claiming that value is set by the market
and then you’re claiming that I’m overvaluing guys like McDonald and Baas?
you are.
mcdonald is not going to get that, he has never started.
Baas is not a top tier guy. Baas will get 2-3million average per year.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Baas was in the top 1/3rd of all centers last year
and $4 million per year is not top tier money for a center. $8 million per year is top tier center money.
$2-3 million per year is what you pay your backups.
Baas will be lucky to get a 4 year deal with 12million gross.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
ya, baas is not that good. anyways we only arguing over one million a year. you win.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions
you dont even pay backup millions.
you draft them and let them walk after.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Heitman makes 2.5 is Baas worth that?
Nnamdi Asomugha is a class act if there has ever been one. 3 Year 45 million, No Jewels at all, SIGN THE MAN, 16 Mil? So pay him!!
UWBA, can make me the happiest fan of 2011!!!!!
Clements was never good though, NEVER!!
Nnamdi Asomugha is a class act if there has ever been one. 3 Year 45 million, No Jewels at all, SIGN THE MAN, 16 Mil? So pay him!!
UWBA, can make me the happiest fan of 2011!!!!!
many people are saying that Nnamdi will get between 15-20million
I was using the somewhere in between to get a decent picture of the cap. fine you think he will make less than that is only more room for the cap. the original comment from you was that not many teams have room for him. Well the Niners do.
There are good example in the league of cb’s playing good into their 30’s.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions
rip
RT @sdutChargers Chargers agree to terms with Takeo Spikes.
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Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
RIP hopes of resigning TKO
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
audios.
he did not want to play here. he wanted to be a winner. go follow greg manusky. bye bye.
hope the deal is huge for a good comp pick.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions
So what, I knew he and Goldson would win. This new CBA is not good for keeping players on their teams.
Let's get somethin done Craptree....
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the niners have tens of millions of cap room
3.5 year exception
3million can be borrowed
5-6 million saved from clements contract.
several practiced squaders count towards the 102million.
10million from players that can be cut like carr, norris, rachal etc.
niners can go after players they want.
niners have three young ILB that can learn from Willis. Bowman is not a slouch.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Because Spikes left the CBA isn't good?
I can see exactly why Spikes would leave: A.) He’s not an integral part of our defense with Manusky gone, B.) He’s at the tail end of his career, C.) We drafted a guy in the 3rd round last year to be his replacement.
Not exactly surprising that he would leave.
Has nothing to do with Spikes at all, I didn’t want him to come back anyway. This CBA is forcing teams to spend and will force player’s salaries up. Especially overrated players like Goldson. TKO, doesn’t really fit what I meant. Young players will not be staying around with their team that drafted them.
Let's get somethin done Craptree....
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they will stay, if anything this new cba will help teams to keep their younger talent.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions
That's the whole point of the CBA
that’s what the players wanted. It’s worse this year than it will be in other years because this season teams have to have actual cash spending at 99% of the salary cap. 2012 it’s 95%, and after that it’s 89%.
How much does that put back on our cap?
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jul 26, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
But I mean if we consider ourselves good at ILB with what we have?
I we say we’re good with PWilly and Bowman and Scotty? If we look at it that way we’re looking at another 2 mil added back into the pool right?
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jul 26, 2011 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Spikes To San Diego Chargers Front Page
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 6:43 PM PDT reply actions
Spikes gone
oddly i will miss his personality more than his play, and i liked the way he played.
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by Giant Voodoo on Jul 26, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Aldon Smith talking about Spikes I think
What?? so you think It was a mistake…0k LET’S GO!!
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
I dunno ask him
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
He said it has nothing to do with the team.
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Just curious, what gives you the impression he was talking about TKO?
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jul 26, 2011 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
because it was the trending topic and how people thought it was a big mistake.
he may be talking about something personal but that was the only public thing
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Alright, I was unclear.
Thanks for the clarification.
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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jul 27, 2011 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions
no
smith is better than jackson compare the two
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I've been watching Smith for 6 years.
He’s not worth $5M a year. No way.
Considering he hasn't played all 6 of those years
your argument is a fallacy lol
by sanfranfanmdk on Jul 26, 2011 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
So far the FO is not impressing
Paying Smith $5M !!!!! and letting Spikes go. No significant signings. So many other teams moving in a better direction. WTF are they doing? They seem to be confused and missing out on some very intriguing moves. What are they doing with Clements? Are they going to go after a CB? A safety> Or do they really think Goldson is the guy? And what about getting a RG in free agency. Plenty out there at the moment. And are they re-signing Bass or is he going to be the next one to make news sigining somewhere else?
So far, this day sucks.
still early.
in all honesty Spikes was saying that he wants to win, he had some comments about teams practicing on their own. Did Spikes really want to be back here?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
the niners also have Mckillop and Kristic as back-ups and Bowman to be the starter. Pwilly is not going anywhere.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh look, it's you
Let’s jump on the front office with less than 24 hours to go in a time frame where 90% of the action is devoted to signing UDFAs. Makes sense to me.
ya our offense is really young
Now that I think about it I can see this year being used as a year to get the younger guys playing time. Yet I still believe we can win the nfc west.
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the defense is going to be really really young
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 27, 2011 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm Just saying
With Smith getting $5M and Spikes leaving, and no other moves forthcoming, it’s been a very bad day. Looks like a Singletary day. Scary.
and we knew the Smith contract was 5 mil for over a month now
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
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Niners and raiders battling over Dashon Goldson.
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Really hoping he's back with us.
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let him go, please let him go please.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Please no.
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Please yes.
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dude is way overated.
niners have plenty of talent cheaper that can do way better than him. let him go to another team to heal his booboos
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
only when you let the facts guide you.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
WOW!!
Nnamdi Asomugha is a class act if there has ever been one. 3 Year 45 million, No Jewels at all, SIGN THE MAN, 16 Mil? So pay him!!
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wow with caps?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Battling over nothing, this Fo is losin it's dan mind to fight over that tird.
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by rlott#42 on Jul 26, 2011 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
had to rec''ed that.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I wonder how seriously the 49ers are actually fighting for him
it could just be that we countered the Raiders offer and that’s it.
offered him vet minimum plus a dinner at Hooters.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
My whole thing is why? He has done nothing to show he deserves the money he is gonna be offered.
Goldson stinks.
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nothing
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions
This might be bad news
According to Maiocco
9ers are fully prepared to pay to keep S Dashon Goldson. They’ll go higher to sign him than any of their defensive free agents.
Like you I can’t figure out why in the world they would do that.
Because Goldson's a good player coming off a bad year.
That’s my opinion at least. I also don’t think we have another viable option.
He's a bad player overhyped by one of Warner's melt downs. Unless he is being played at SS, he is horrible.
This FO is lost. At least regarding Goldson. I’d rather keep TKO.
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That's my view of it too.
He was injured and played through it. Still stings that he wasn’t more productive, but I want him back b/c otherwise it’s Reggie Smith and Taylor Mays and ???s at Safety.
Kaepernick may have some growing to do as a passer, but you don't get to 10,000 yards passing in college without being able to read a defense.
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horrible just horrible news. dead cap space.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Maiocco's last post is a bit scary:
49ers are focusing on re-signing DE Ray McDonald and are prepared to lose NT Aubrayo Franklin and OLB Manny Lawson.
I'm getting that sense too.
We unless we make a few surprise moves, I don’t see how we have the personnel to do an effective 3-4.
a 43 but let lawson walk? if the niners wanted a 43 they would sign lawson who would be perfect.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
..
does not scare me at all.
I would be concerned how franklin would perform after getting a big contract. some may disagree. niners seem to not want lawson services.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, what scares me is the combined losses on defense that we seem to be having.
We’re giving up a lot of free agents and we seem to not be eager to sign anyone. This may just be secrecy by the FO but I’m sensing a lot of dragging feet here. However, it’s still early. I retain hope we’ll go after Jonathan Joseph.
it is just starting
after drafting bowman it was writing on the wall that spikes was leaving. franklin may not work hard after signing a big contract. lawson is better fitted for a 43 sadly and goldson sucks.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
Franklin and Lawson weren’t the best players. One (Franklin), has had a good two years but isn’t worth the 9MM he is going to get. Lawson isn’t a great fit in the 3-4. Also, Spikes wasn’t worth a three year contract.
Wait and see how it plays out
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 26, 2011 8:30 PM PDT reply actions
Lawson was not used properly, not his fault. he held his edge in the run and put great pressure on QB's, he caused most of our turnover oppurtunities last season.
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Wow
You have a serious man crush on him. Lawson caused more than 50% of the 49er turnover opportunities last season? I’d like to see that broken down. He held his edge in the run? Sometimes, but he didn’t excel at it. His skills covering are great, but a one dimensional LB isn’t worth paying big money for unless that one dimension is creating sacks.
I couldn't see keeping him
as our primary rush backer, despite his decent pressure per play statistics. With a decent secondary pressures can lead to more interceptions than sacks can fumbles, but that part isn’t there yet.
I could see keeping him to play the other OLB position if we run a majority of 4-3 Under and have Aldon take his place as a hybrid DE/OLB.
But that would require Lawson not trying to cash in. If he does, we gotta let him walk.
$6-8 million would be what I'd offer Franklin, with $8 being the hardcap
If he can get more than $8 from another team he’s welcome to it. I agree with the rest of what you say too. Spikes wasn’t worth a 2 or 3 year deal, not with his replacement already on the roster and Lawson is suited better as a 4-3 LB.
I've been a proponent of trying to keep Franklin
But I’m starting to wonder if our coaching staff wants Franklin back at any price.
Franklin is the prototypical 2 gapper who is going to stand there and eat up blockers but maybe Fangio and company want to run a 1 gap system.
Where is he gonna go?
It seems like all the 3-4 teams are set at NT
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Very good question.
I think he’s about to get very cheap, although I wouldn’t be surprised at this point if we still didn’t sign him. Where he goes if Fangio and company decide not to retain him isn’t really our problem.
I can't see them cutting him.
His options as a starter are basically limited to us now.
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Right. It's late.. not sure why I said that.
What I meant is that he doesn’t really have anywhere else to go.
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Although
I suppose he could wind up going to a 4-3 team and be a regular ol’ DT
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Which would be good for that team
Since they could get a pure penetrator for the other DT spot. But Franklin couldn’t command that much money.
It’s alright on the lateness, I have the advantage — it’s 11 AM here and I’ve already had my coffee. =)
Not true at all
Denver, Browns, Texans, Cardinals, all need a NT. I don’t know how interested any of them are in Franklin, but he still has options.
Those are all 3-4 teams except for the Texans and Cards
And they both have NT’s
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Denver is switching back to a 4-3
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Our run defense has gone down the drain with last season, Harbaugh didn’t even have a chance to smell a rat!!
Nnamdi Asomugha is a class act if there has ever been one. 3 Year 45 million, No Jewels at all, SIGN THE MAN, 16 Mil? So pay him!!
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Huh?
Nnamdi Asomugha is a class act if there has ever been one. 3 Year 45 million, No Jewels at all, SIGN THE MAN, 16 Mil? So pay him!!
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It'll be better than this year, is all I'm saying, it was pretty good.
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You mean it will not be as good this year as last?
Makes sense, but it may be more dangerous and less consistent. That may prove to be a good thing if our offense can figure things out.
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
I think we will surrender more on first and second and be in more 3rd and shorts instead of third and longs, leaving the opposing offense more options on third.
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yeah I could see that
There are just so many questions at this point to know. We don’t know what Fangio will do and who will be at NT or DE for sure yet.
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
Free agents that will aide our defense will cost too much, we're too busy in a bidding war for Goldson.
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If you get Nnamdi
then Goldson is less of a liability on the big play
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
than there is no need for goldson
safety is one position that the niners are stacked in
mays, reggie smith, curtis taylor, C.J. Spillman(will be cut) Chris Maragos, Colin Jones, and Chris Culliver can play that position.
Goldson can leave and there will be better or the same level of play at that position.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Stacked?
mays, reggie smith, curtis taylor, C.J. Spillman(will be cut) Chris Maragos, Colin Jones, and Chris Culliver can play that position.
Mays is not quite ready. Smith will be the starter. Taylor is a good backup and good on st. Spillman will not be cut, he’s our best gunner. Maragos will probably be cut. Jones might be a good st player with his speed.
So if you mean we are stacked with special teams players at safety then yes, you are correct.
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spillman and Jones are STers
they won’t be playing safety. Culliver was drafted to play CB so he will be an emergency option. Its like counting Jennings as a TE.
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taylor mays will be better than goldson, the play is not going to drop off with the lost of goldson. he is nothing special.
spillman will be cut, he even tweeted it" i am packing my bags going to cali to be cut" he was only here due to injurys.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 27, 2011 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
he didn't say that.
He said “Almost finished packing going to get a cut before I’m off to san fran today! Truck getting shipped so things are on a roll!” he is getting a haircut bro.
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The benefit of a defense
is that it’s easier to get them into top form than it is an offense. The defense may not be as bad as you fear.
Goldson wants to remain in SF
he better come back and not kill our cap
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
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let him walke.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions
yes
reggie smith, taylor mays, culiver, maragos, curtis taylor, and the guy they just drafted. plenty of players that will play better than goldson.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions
culiver is going to play CB
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the coaches said so
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things change
I agree he will but if Goldson leaves they may give him some reps if we pick up a good DB in FA
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
I am really nervous about the defense
I do not believe in Fangio and everyone is leaving. I understand that you want to get your guys, but they aren’t getting anybody. I think we will really struggle next year
defense, totally agree with you.
it could be way better or so horribly worse.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
You don't believe in Fangio?
Everyone is leaving? Like Justin Smith and Patrick Willis (our two best players)?
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
Everyone that can
I do not see any history of Fangio’s that makes me feel reassured and I have no idea what they want because its been too quiet on signings for us. Smith and Willis can only do so much alone.
Who else is there? The line is unproven, I don’t even know who our linebackers are and the secondary was a mess even with Goldson. I think we are overhauling, which isn’t a bad thing. Just that the D will suffer through the growing pains
We'll resign McDonald
He’ll start on the other side from Smith. If Franklin does leave, we’ll have to make do with Sopoaga or RJF, but McDonald will be an improvement on the end over Sopoaga.
Bowman was drafted specifically to replace Spikes, so we knew this day was coming. Aldon Smith was drafted to provide a rush presence on the outside, presumably to replace Lawson if needed, or if Lawson is retained to move to the right side.
The front 7 will still retain it’s effectiveness. The secondary did stink last season, but it’s stunk for a long time. I feel confident that the reason you’re not seeing big moves yet (a whole day into free agency) is because the 49ers are chasing Nmadi. We bring him in and regardless of what happens with Clements our secondary is vastly improved. If we can rework Clements’ contract (maybe get rid of that extra $7 million in LTBE he’s due this year), then we can keep both of them and go from a pretty bad CB duo to a pretty impressive one.
I say just let Iupati play both sides.
LG on offense and NT on D
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Why don't you believe in Fangio?
The team hasn’t even played a pre-season game and you’re writing him off. Only one player has left for sure and that’s a 34 year old LB who had his replacement drafted last year. Goldson may or may not leave, Clements may or may not leave. Franklin may or may not leave. Lawson may or may not leave.
We knew all of this at the end of last season.
Fangio
would have some input on the players he wants on defense. Now, the monetary and decision making issues are that of Baalke and Harbaugh
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 27, 2011 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Goldsons tweet!
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To all the fans and especially u haters. This process, none of us can control its all in GODS hands. He will put me where I belong. #Faith
Ready For #6
God would ask you to give your possessions to charity, live a missionary life of serving your neighbors, not concussing them. Don’t blame God if you want more money.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
good, as long as it is not here with the niners.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
What price would you take Goldson back at?
He’s not an awful safety. Even with his season last year he was still at least average. $6 million? $5 million? $4 million?
I just don’t know who we have that can step up to replace him right away. Spillman was terrific on special teams but is he ready to start opposite Mays? Reggie Smith has been on the bubble for awhile. Chris Maragos?
I just think we need to focus on the younger guys and their development in the league.
Goldson is already stuck in his ways and bad habits. It would be easier to teach a new guy technique from scratch than to make a vet unlearn everything he knows and start from scratch.
I will be okay if Goldson winds up across the bay in Oakland.
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I completely agree with that
This is why I am not torn on the loss of Spikes (though he will be missed) because of having Bowman on the roster. I also want to see San Francisco play a lot more of Taylor Mays, Phillip Adams, Kyle Williams and Kendall Hunter in 2011.
Goldson is still young and teachable, San Francisco also has the best secondary coach in the entire league, which will help a lot. Goldson has a breakout 2009 season and regresses last season. I see no reason why we don’t look at retaining him for THE RIGHT PRICE
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 27, 2011 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions
goldson had a few good games in 2009. even that year he was nothing special. average safety.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 27, 2011 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I am saying
he will sign for about 5-6MM anything more than that would be over paying. Still, it beats the heck out of giving a 35 year old LB a three year contract.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 27, 2011 12:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Self declared hawk?? GTFOHWTBS!!!
Nnamdi Asomugha is a class act if there has ever been one. 3 Year 45 million, No Jewels at all, SIGN THE MAN, 16 Mil? So pay him!!
UWBA, can make me the happiest fan of 2011!!!!!
no doubt, he is watcing something that ins't realistic.
Nnamdi Asomugha is a class act if there has ever been one. 3 Year 45 million, No Jewels at all, SIGN THE MAN, 16 Mil? So pay him!!
UWBA, can make me the happiest fan of 2011!!!!!
redskins just agreed to terms with their new NT.
one less suitor for franklin.
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good
next off is the chiefs
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three year 15 million or so for franklin would be sweet.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 26, 2011 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
that would be a steal
then by the time Franklin is done Williams should be ready
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
I think most 3-4 teams have their NT
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
not sure, do they jets need one or maimi? chiefs i think do need one.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 27, 2011 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Williams needs to work on his pass rush
just saying he does well in occupying blockers though.
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Pass rush is not a necessity from a 3-4 NT
In fact, that is the least important aspect of their game
Pat Williams has 20 sacks in 14 seasons and has been to the Pro Bowl multiple times.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 27, 2011 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I hope we find Takeo's replacement in
Dhani Jones or Nick Barnett
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Oh god
No thank you.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 27, 2011 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL
It was just a shock to see Dhani’s name there………sorry
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 27, 2011 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Have you ever seen him play a game?
He’s probably better than TKO.
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I have seen him play
in more than a dozen games. Tackles don’t aren’t everything when it comes to that position. Sure, he stacks up the tackles like no ones business; but, in what context?
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 27, 2011 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions
It was his job in Cincy's defense.
Go look at his stats pre-Mike Zimmer… he was all over the field. Zimmer is a crappy D-Coordinator. In just two years, he dismantled a pretty decent defense.
Their best players want out because of it.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 27, 2011 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions
What?
You said it had something to do with his contract
Had a rookie contract with the Giants signed for only 12MM over 5 years with Philadelphia before being released.
Did you read it?
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 27, 2011 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions
It was a 4-yr and yes, I read it.
He was a RFA in NY… He was a UFA in PHI. He is an UFA now.
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Rookie contract with the GIants. Five year contract with the Eagles. You said it had something to do with his contract? I don’t have any idea what you are talking about.
He left the Giants after his rookie contract and the Eagles RELEASED HIM!
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 27, 2011 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Apr 30 2007
Released by Philadelphia (PHI)
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 27, 2011 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Also,
click the button to open your links in another window. It helps
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What?
Feb 29 2008
Signed a 3 year $5.1 million contract with Cincinnati (CIN)Apr 30 2007
Released by Philadelphia (PHI)Mar 9 2004
SIgned a 5 year $12.5 million contract with Philadelphia (PHI)Apr 15 2000
Drafted by New York (NYG)
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 27, 2011 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions
When you link something.... there's a little box that says, "click to open in new window"
Use it… please.
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Crap, didn't know that
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 27, 2011 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions
2004-2008
Team:Philadelphia Eagles
Contract:5 yr(s) / $12,500,000
Free Agent Type:UFA
2000-2003
Team:New York Giants
Contract:4 yr(s) / $1,370,000
Free Agent Type:RFA
Contract: 3 yr(s) / $5,100,000
End Year: 2010
Free Agent: 2011 / Unrestricted
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 27, 2011 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions
You
are linking the contract he signed. Check the right hand of the web page and that shows you the contract transactions, which are more important.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 27, 2011 1:04 AM PDT up reply actions
No,
The agency is more important.
Look I am not going to argue the point anymore. We obviously have different opinions of him as a player and how and why exactly he would fit in Fangio’s defense
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I don't want an argument
but, you said previously that he had opted out, when in fact he was released. Now, it was to save cap money. My point is a player like that isn’t an upgrade over what the 49ers currently have on their roster
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 27, 2011 1:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Well he probably wanted to be released because they brought in TKO
Which to him was probably a slap in the face. And that’s what I meant by “opted out”.
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Played
two different ILB positions at that time.
Doesn’t matter at this point anyway. Like I said below not against 1-1.5MM, just not a huge fan of his
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 27, 2011 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions
He was a starter in the SB that year.
They did it to clear up cap space… not because he was crappy.
2007 Stats, Not horrible, not great but he was one of the pieces that helped Philly get to the big game that year.
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All this said
If he were to sign for 1-1.5 million I wouldn’t be upset.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 27, 2011 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I am not really buying into that
I do think that Dhani is an average starter in the NFL, but I would MUCH rather have Bowman learn on the run than bring him in.
There is a reason why Jones didn’t last more than three seasons in both Philadelphia and New York, because he just isn’t that good. Those are solid defenses that saw a way to upgrade from Dhani.
Did love his show though!
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 27, 2011 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Could've had something to do with his contract...
call it more than a hunch
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In the middle of a youth movement
Barnett is 30 and Jones is 33.
Why would we give multi-year contracts to either of those guys?
Might as well have given TK his 3 year contract — he’s in better shape and has aged much better than either.
Bowman is not ready and I think he is a liability in coverage… especially in a new system.
Both Jones and Barnett come from similar systems as Fangio is installing
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At this point it looks like we're going to be starting
guys at new positions, last years situational or second string players, and rookies.
I don’t think anyone in our organization is in so much “win now” mode that they give a multi-year contract to a 30+ year old LB.
Unless something drastically changes
I tend to agree with you, It does look like San Francisco isn’t making a huge push for contention in 2011. Guess we will have to reserve judgement and see how it all plays out
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 27, 2011 1:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Not necessarily.
There is still quite a few things they can do in free agency. We just have to wait and see how everything shakes out.
But you could be right. They have not made any major cuts like I thought they might. We’ll see what happens tomorrow and I guess we will have a better idea.
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Exactly
We are 24 hours into free agency. Actually it hasn’t even started yet. It will be interested to see what SF does because they are going to have to spend money somewhere
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 27, 2011 1:12 AM PDT up reply actions
You will see something happen with Clements for sure
He has a cap number of 17+ million this year due to some LTBE incentives.
The only sure thing is that we aren’t spending 15% of our cap on Nate.
Barnett
He just turned 30, so it’s not like he is ancient or anything like that. He would be extremely familiar with the defense and not have to make too many adjustments other than lanuage. He could be an instant insert and upgrade over Bowman for the time being. 2 or 3 yr deal would not be a bad way to go if they could land him.
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That could be an option
but, I don’t think he is an upgrade over Takeo Spikes. Logistically, he is younger so a three year contract makes more sense.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 27, 2011 1:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I just don't feel comfortable with Bowman or McKillop as a full-time starter.
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Bowman has the ability and upside
It would have been ideal to have him sit behind TKO for a year or two. So, bringing in a vet could work. However, that money could be spent elsewhere. 3-4MM could be the difference between Marshall and Joseph.
Get what I saying?
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 27, 2011 1:18 AM PDT up reply actions
neither am I
But I haven’t heard anything that might make me believe the 49ers feel the same way. I know they must be really nervous about both Mays and Reggie Smith if they’re going above and beyond for Goldson.
by whistlingmountain on Jul 27, 2011 5:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Jaguars just paid paul posluszny P will money on a 6 year deal
7 million average over 6 years for an ILB
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Now
that is plain dumb
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 27, 2011 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions
amazing....
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs in 2012, hopefully! :)
I'm thinking Takeo got a 3 year 15 million deal now...
No way 49ers would ever match that for a player who isalmost 35
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That is my thinking too
and, if that is the case San Diego was pretty dumb to sign him to that contract.
Spikes just tweeted “SB to SD”, does that sound familiar? Was hit profile tweet with SF LOL
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Jul 27, 2011 1:29 AM PDT up reply actions
that would be crazy 5 million a year for spikes
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jul 27, 2011 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Cofield 6 year 36 million
That’s a really decent deal for the Redskins actually
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Franklin and Goldson both have really high bars set for their contracts
Have you noticed that basically no corners are agreeing until Nnamdi’s bidding war ends? It will trickle down to Clements after passing through the 2nd tier guys.
by whistlingmountain on Jul 27, 2011 5:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Baas gone
This is not going well.
Smith is going to be out with a broken arm and Kaepernick running for his life by week 5.
by whistlingmountain on Jul 27, 2011 7:20 AM PDT reply actions
What is going on? I'm so confused.
The only FA we seem to have made ANY effort of keeping is goldson, and while I think we should keep him we’re letting really valuable talent at low-depth positions just leave, with no explanation.
I can only think we’re gonna make one or two big deals soon, but we’re sacrificing a lot of key players with very little by way of replacement. Starting to get really worried.
Certainly not looking good, 6 months ago I thought the two FAs that would hurt the most if lost
were Franklin and Baas, well they’re both gone.
Looks like they’re going to overpay Goldson. Maiocco has their cap space at 13 million right now, 7 million for rookies, so 6 million. Minus 17 for Clements 23. If they overpay Goldson that puts it about 16. McDonald 13.. Real possibility they might just bring in 6 or 7 cheap vets ( LaBoy, a Low priced corner ) to put it around 9/10 million under the cap. Might be all they do. If they restructure Clements to 7 million that will basically cap them out.
by whistlingmountain on Jul 27, 2011 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I'll wait to see Baas contract
before making judgements. You can’t make judgements on free agency this early.
Which centers would you want?
I think Kreutz or O’Hara would be great additions. Maybe go after Lyle Sendlein
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