Golden Nuggets: Josh Johnson Is Still On My 49ers Wishlist

by James Brady on Jul 8, 2011 2:00 AM PDT in 49ers Links

Quick thanks to Fooch for covering the Nuggets yesterday, I was unable to get 'em done. I'm back now, and we're back to full iterations of the Nuggets. Yesterday, I started a series of posts about 49ers players on Twitter ... they are fun for me to put together, so I hope you enjoy reading my commentary during them, don't forget to go check it out. I'm receptive to any more potential names for the series of posts. And when I say "receptive", I mean that I'm begging for them. Anyway, we've got a few links for you today, but I don't know (and won't go check) which links Fooch included yesterday, so you might see some recycled. Also, a congratulations to Eric Branch for moving over to the San Francisco Chronicle, they just picked up a writer with a ton of talent. Enjoy the links.

Eric Branch, as noted, is with the Chronicle now, and here's a great column in which he lays some knowledge down about Josh Johnson that I wasn't familiar with before. I really like Johnson a lot and would love him to get a chance in San Francisco. (SFGate.com)

I agree with Maiocco, in regards to the player-organized workouts. I think that they are a necessity and find myself disagreeing with Takeo Spikes, something I don't do often. (CSNBayArea.com)

Bob Padecky does not agree with Maiocco. However, he's talking about something else entirely: Maiocco's assertion that Terrell Owens will not be a Hall of Famer. In my mind, T.O. will get in on his first try. So I disagree with Matt as well. (PressDemocrat.com)

Well, I sincerely hope that the commenting here on Niners Nation never becomes like that of some of the more mainstream sites. It really is lowest common denominator of people, but this is an interesting piece nonetheless. Spikes was named as one of the patients of Dr. Anthony Galea, a guy being popped for smuggling human growth hormone into the 'States. What does this mean? Nothing, as it stands. Personally, I don't think Spikes gets near that kind of stuff, he's always been a big guy, and his neck has basically always been bigger than his head. Then again, I'm biased. Who knows? (ProFootballTalk.com)

Pretty clear and to the point regarding my feeling about the stadium situation. It's nothing to me right now. I need something tangible. (PressDemocrat.com)

High powered firm hired to sell 49ers season tickets at Santa Clara stadium (MercuryNews.com)

49ers ex-quarterback Ken Dorsey at work on his coaching future (MercuryNews.com)

49ers worst moments since the '87 strike (ProFootballTalk.com)

49ers staff at an advantage after lockout? (Scout.com)

Santa Clara Breaks Ground On Tasman Garage (49ers.com)

Turner Talks 49ers Hall Of Fame, Team Museum (49ers.com)

Yesterday on Niners Nation

Golden Nuggets: Roger Goodell, DeMaurice Smith Back At The Negotiating Table | Fooch
49ers LB Coach Jim Leavitt: Coaching Up His Linebackers | Fooch
Takeo Spikes 2 Live Stews Interview: The Validity Of Player-Organized Workouts | Fooch
2011 NFL Free Agency Primer: NFC East Release Candidates | nocal81
49ers On Twitter: Last Week's Craziness, Anthony Dixon Dominates | Ninjames
NN NFL Tournament of Badness: Players Being Busts and Doing Stupid Things | Ninjames

Pro Football Talk, 49ers Worst Moments: I Call Shenanigans | Fooch

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I don't think TO will be a first ballot HOF

If anything has become obvious the last ten years it is that the HOF voting process is a popularity contest, and TO has rubbed too many people the wrong way.

But his play has earned him an ugly yellow jacket.

by Ougadas on Jul 8, 2011 3:08 AM PDT reply actions

yea basically,

I’ve thought for years that they will find a way to keep him out for a while as a sort of punishment.

That being said, even if he retires sometime this year ( which I don’t think he will for another 2 or 3 years ), he wouldn’t be voted on until 2016 or 2017. If he were to do charity work, maybe even work for a media outlet covering the NFL ( which he has the personality and chops for, same as OC ), then the public and voters may just forget that he was a dick.

I mean, his stats dictate he is a first ballot HOF, and the fact that he did it on multiple teams makes me have even less doubt.

by whistlingmountain on Jul 8, 2011 5:33 AM PDT up reply actions

mcwagner

is there a list of words somewhere that are considered to be offensive?

by whistlingmountain on Jul 8, 2011 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions

Generally anything that cannot be said on broadcast television or a PG-13 movie. We are currently discussing what is ok, borderline, and not acceptable. This is also including british slang or other languages. There is a list, but it is too extensive and even includes LMAO

by mcwagner on Jul 8, 2011 9:01 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions

cheezums.

by whistlingmountain on Jul 8, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions

fiddlesticks and dagnum em are listed in auto bans. Luckily Jimmy Raye isn’t very computer savvy.

by mcwagner on Jul 8, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions

i agree its a popularity contest

but its not like T.O. is out running dog fighting rings, raping chicks, sending pictures of his dick, dropping his gun in a nightclub, getting arrested, stabbed, etc, etc, etc. he keeps his nose clean, he just talks a lot of smack and is a showboat. he’s a fierce competitor that gives it his all every time (unlike say, randy moss). he definitely deserves a first ballot HOF nod.

by MattSFfrd on Jul 8, 2011 5:45 AM PDT up reply actions

Well , it's here already Niner Nation ... Happy Friday go get your groove on ...!!

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!

by Edggy on Jul 8, 2011 4:34 AM PDT reply actions

I'm still a fan of Josh Johnson coming in as well

but I just don’t see it as a possibility anymore. Feels like Harbaugh is 100% confident he can get enough out of Smith this year, then decide going forward whether to stick with him, go with Kaepernick or try something new. If he wanted JJ at that point he’d probably be cheaper with another year under Freeman’s belt and an offseason for the Bucs to find a back-up.

by whistlingmountain on Jul 8, 2011 5:39 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs

It seems like that, but then again … it doesn’t. Harbaugh can talk about Smith, he can flatter Smith, he can try and make Smith think he wants to be here. That’s why he’s saying what he’s saying, because it’s the smart thing to do, since Smith might be the only option for him.

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by James Brady on Jul 8, 2011 6:36 AM PDT up reply actions

the extent to which Alex is a virtual 49er at this point

tells me so much more happened between the two of them than we know, so I don’t personally think their bond is as much of a gray area as others do.

if it were a normal off-season and the new staff could meet and evaluate a lot of these floundering stalled “talents” on the 49ers, maybe things would be very very different, but as it is, it’s looking like it’s going to be kind of freebie year for Harbaugh and his staff to re-evaluate many of these guys as the season goes.

It’s the same reason I don’t see them breaking the bank on any individual free agent.

If he really likes Josh, and Smith fails again, then when Smith walks next year, he can bring JJ in to compete with Kaepernick. There’s really no necessity to bring him in this year at the price the Bucs would surely charge for their back-up a month before the season starts.

by whistlingmountain on Jul 8, 2011 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions

I agree that it's a stretch for it to happen

I don’t see the appeal for the team? Honestly, we can get a younger QB that is similar for Harbaugh to groom as the future back-up to Kaepernick. Let’s face it; Kaepernick is the QB of the future for now, and anyone else brought in is strictly a back-up.

Besides, we’ve all overlooked the fact that USD’s offense might have been completely different from a WCO. In fact, I think I remember reading that Harbs didn’t begin to incorporate WCO principles into his offense until meeting Walsh after his time at USD. This means that contrary to popular belief, Johnson isn’t going to walk in here day 1 with a firm grasp of the offense and beat out Smith.

by 9thevolution on Jul 8, 2011 6:39 AM PDT up reply actions

Why do you think that’s ideal? A younger QB that is similar for Harbaugh to groom? We have Smith and Kaepernick right now, we don’t need a “younger QB”. Johnson’s knock coming out of college was how long he’d take to adjust to the pro level, you could argue that he’s about there. He’s insanely more valuable than “a younger QB” unless that QB is Andrew Luck.

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by James Brady on Jul 8, 2011 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

He's set to be a career back up if he comes here

I don’t see the value. Even if he starts over Smith, he’s going to lose the job to Kaepernick at some point in the very near future. He’s on the last year of his contract and he has to know that he’d be extended to fill strictly a back-up role. Personally, he’s foolish if he thinks coming to SF is a good idea if he ever has any intention of being a full-time starter.

And a “younger QB” is absolutely a necessity because we have no depth for the future. Smith will have a one year contract and then it’s unlikely we bring him back unless he kills it. Carr is gone either after camp or at the end of the season. You want to go into 2012 with one QB on the roster? Trading draft picks for a guy we can get in free agency next year is absolutely foolish.

by 9thevolution on Jul 8, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions

Also....

Why does everyone covet him all of a sudden? He hasn’t played well in the opportunity he’s gotten. Personally, I’d rather have Matt Flynn despite his very small sample size as a starter.

by 9thevolution on Jul 8, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions

It’s not “all of a sudden”. Just because he wasn’t on your radar doesn’t imply that.

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by James Brady on Jul 8, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions

Desperately Seeking QB

The 49ers are extremely weak at QB. Harbaugh praises A Smith because he has no choice, this lockout has messed everything up. Josh Johnson is a either an outstanding back-up OR potential starter should Smith fail as usual. I believe that acquiring “A Smith insurance” is the top priority for the 49ers in free agency.

by scrappydog on Jul 8, 2011 7:16 AM PDT up reply actions

Heck, JJ will cost nothing extra in a year since he will be a free agent.

unless restricted free agency some how applies.

by asmithisaverage on Jul 8, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions

Josh Johnson

looks like he could be good one day, and if it had been a regular off-season I wouldn’t have minded the Niners taking a flyer on him if he didn’t cost too much.

I think that time has come and gone. We shall see, though.

but then I have a reading problem...

by Bob In Beaverton on Jul 8, 2011 7:06 AM PDT reply actions

Yep the questions comes out of cost

Tampa has to realize there is no way JJ is going to resign when his contract is up in a year. If they can get a low-mid round pick for 2012, it might be worth it to them. Freeman is their QBOTF, no way around that.

by asmithisaverage on Jul 8, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions