NFC West Outlook: Seattle Seahawks Off-Season To Date
by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 6:00 PM PDT
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PrintSeattle has made a lot of noise this off-season, but have they actually upgraded the team? I guess only time will tell. This is a team that won the NFC West with a sub .500 record, so there is a lot they have to do in order to take the next step.
When factoring in the rest of the NFC West I would have to conclude that Seattle is going to be right in the thick of things with the St. Louis Rams for the division title; Arizona and San Francisco lagging closely behind. Outside of the 49ers, the NFC West has been extremely active in free agency and Seattle is no different
Vincent's Note: According to various reports Oakland Raider tight end, Zach Miller, is meeting with the Seahawks today. He would be a major addition to the Seahawks tight end corp. We will keep you updated in the situation as it breaks.
Update #2: There are unconfirmed reports that the Seattle Seahawks are close to signing Zach Miller
Free Agent Signings
QB- Tarvaris Jackson: Two Year, 8 Million Dollar Contract
2010 Stats: 58.6 Completion Percentage, 341 Yards, 3 TD, 4 INT
Analysis: Its hard to imagine that Jackson is an upgrade over even the 2010 version of Matt Hasselbeck. He wasn't given much of an opportunity in Minnesota, but when on the field it wasn't awe inspiring. Jackson is 10-10 in 20 career starts and was a step above horrible in his only "full" season starting for Minnesota in 2007. Granted the Vikings went 8-4 that season, but in 12 starts he only managed 9 TDs compared to 12 picks.
How It Effects The 49ers? To be honest not much as the Seahawks still have the worse QB in the division at this point.
WR- Sidney Rice: Five Year, 41 Million Dollar Contract.
2010 Stats: 6 Games Played, 17 Receptions, 280 Yards 2 TD
Analysis: It is debatable that a player with just one really good season is worth this amount of money. But, what isn't debatable is the fact that Rice has tremendous upside and talent. Rice followed up a career 2009 season that saw him go for over 1300 yards with a mediocre 2010 season. It must be noted that he was injured for the first 10 games, but after coming back from that injury his production was down from 2009.
You are looking at a player that can stretch the field and has extremely soft hands. He will be a nice weapon for Jackson who paired up with Rice in 2007 in the tune of 31 receptions; Rice's rookie season.
How it effect the 49ers? Like I said in yesterday's post, if San Francisco doesn't get a starting caliber corner or two these wide receivers are going to shred apart their secondary. Rice immediately becomes the best receiver in the division outside of Larry Fitzgerald.
G- Robert Gallery: Three Year Contract, Terms Undisclosed
Analysis: Gallary a former top pick of the Oakland Raiders completely flopped at the tackle position. So, in 2007 they moved him to guard. He had some success at that new position over the last couple of seasons, but isn't by any means a top flight guard in the NFL. The terms of the contract were unknown but it is believed that Gallery was demanding top guard money, not sure if he got it.
That said, Seattle's offensive line was lackluster and he represents a nice upgrade for them.
How it effects the 49ers? Gallery has a lot of issues with quicker defensive linemen, that is the reason he moved inside. With Ricky-Jean Francois promised to get some play at NT and Justin Smith moving inside on obvious rushing downs, I would expect San Francisco to be able to exploit that.
DL- Alan Branch: Two Year, 8 Million Dollar Contract.
2010 Stats: 35 Tackles, 2 Sacks, 2 Forced Fumbles
Analysis: When I first heard that Seattle signed Branch for 8MM I was in complete and utter shock. This is a player that has continually under performed since coming out of the draft from Michigan a few years back. After all, he racked up a whopping 35 total tackles in his first three NFL seasons. He surpassed that amount in 2010 alone and Seattle is banking on this continued progression. No one has ever questioned Branch's talent, but he needs to put it together and become more consistent.
How does it effect the 49ers? Minimal at this point. San Francisco has more things to worry about than an underachieving defensive linemen going from one division rival to another.
Re-signed: DL- Brandon Mebane and LB- LeRoy Hill
Free Agent Losses: QB- Matt Hasselbeck (Tennessee), K- Olindo Mare (Carolina, LB- Matt McCoy (Carolina)
Team Cuts: QB- Nate Davis, TE- Chris Baker, OL- Stacy Andrews
2011 NFL Draft
1st Round, 25th Pick: OT- James Carpenter, Alabama
3rd Round, 75th Pick: G- John Moffitt, Wisconsin
4th Round, 99th Pick: LB- James Carpenter, Alabama
4th Round, 107th Pick: WR- Kris Durham, Georgia
5th Round, 154th Pick: CB- Richard Sherman, Stanford
5th Round, 156th Pick: S- Mark LeGree, Appalachian State
6th Round, 173rd Pick: CB- Byrton Maxwell, Clemson
7th Round, 205th Pick: DE- Lazarius Levingston, Louisiana State
7th Round, 242nd Pick: LB- Malcolm Smith, USC
Notable Undrafted Free Agent Signings
DE- Pierre Allen (Nebraska), K- Wes Byrum (Auburn), G- Zach Hurd (Connecticut) and S- Jeron Johnson (Boise State)
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Man I can't wait for the "What's Your Deal Bowl"
How many times is that going to be mentioned in the pre-game?
not looking good for us so far..
by wtlichens on Aug 1, 2011 6:10 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
They aren't going to win
we are better in every category and we are at home
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
even though Tavaris Jackson is thier qb...
We have nobody that can cover Sidney Rice. NOBODY!!!! I want to keep upbeat about this as anyone, but reality is not on our side. Just keeping it real.
by wtlichens on Aug 1, 2011 7:16 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
we covered him before
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
with clements.
Spencer will be toast.
by wtlichens on Aug 1, 2011 7:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
They also had Brett Farve throwing the ball.
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
by manraj7 on Aug 1, 2011 7:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
"even though" T Jackson is the qb...
Spencer will be “burnt” toast. It will be ugly with a capital U. He is not a starting cb and he is definately not a no.1!
by wtlichens on Aug 1, 2011 8:11 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
is the dropoff from Brett Farve in his best year ever to Jackson < the dropoff from Clements to Spencer
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
1st.. last year Faarve sucked...
Secondly…Spencer was so bad last year he should have been replaced by Adams. In a passing league we are “hurtin for certain” if we don’t find 2 startinf cb’s soon.
by wtlichens on Aug 1, 2011 8:27 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
looking at the wrong year bro
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
If you really think Spenser can cover Rice or Fitzgerald or Sims-Walker one on one
I will not argue anymore.
by wtlichens on Aug 1, 2011 8:57 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
who said 1 v 1
also Mike Sims-Walker is more inconsistent than the niners
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
oh double teaming on wide recievers.
Is that the Tampa 2 or “prevent” defense. What I am trying to say unsuccessfully is that our defensive backfield is unproven at best. Spencer was bad last year. And he has the most experiance of the bunch.
by wtlichens on Aug 1, 2011 9:11 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Spencer had a good year the year Rice had his
In fact if you spread the stats of Rice over a year from last year he would be similar to Crabs.
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Spencer can cover Fitzgerald
He matches well against him for some reason
by mcwagner on Aug 1, 2011 9:35 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
no way
I really misspelled his name. But ya you caught me I don’t watch football. In fact I hate it. I find it a mind numbing game that only a complete idiot would enjoy. My plan on NN is to get to mod status then write front page articles talking about how horrible the sport is so that I can convince lurkers to leave this site and never come back. Thus saving them from the brutal and agonizing life of a fan that follows a stupid sport where the main purpose is to knock another person out. It has no complexity to the game nor do I find any interest in the draft or other offseason activities like salary cap management or Free Agency.
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
by manraj7 on Aug 1, 2011 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
While Tarvaris Jackson is a guy who is better than given credit
This is a weak quarterback competition and no real solutions to one of their biggest holes. Maybe Pete is tanking for Luck to get the ultimate revenge on Harbaugh. Too bad he will have lost his job in the process.
they suck. harbaugh will not let the niners lose against seahawks
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
"F" because it is the Seahawks.
That’s what they get.
Their draft sucked
They brought in a crappy QB
They overpaid a WR with nobody to get him the ball
Tell Pete Carroll that “just for men called” and they want their graphic back
Harbaugh > Carroll
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
by goatfather on Aug 1, 2011 6:20 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I think
It all boils down to Jackson. They lost Hasselback, who I think was/is quite good. For an unproven guy, who the vikes just let walk away. I just dont see him being a quality starter in the league. Everything hinges on that.
"Our opponents are nameless and faceless" - Jim Harbaugh
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Greater at being a piece of shit, perhaps.
I take it you all remember Hasselbeck pissing away his final game against the 49ers @ Candlestick park. 4 INTs in another awful performance, one of many he’s had since 2007. His performance against the Saints, while a pleasant surprise, was absolutely a fluke, because even in his prime he never regularly had performances that good.
He’s a class-act and fan-favorite but the time to move on from him was years ago.
by Fearless Frog on Aug 1, 2011 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh wait, we can't curse on here.
Amend that to piece of crap.
by Fearless Frog on Aug 1, 2011 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope Harbaugh drops 50 points on them...by halftime
Jim Harbaugh doesn't just WANT winners, he MAKES them!
And yes, that score does include them going for and getting 2!
Jim Harbaugh doesn't just WANT winners, he MAKES them!
Seattle has some of the most insecure, jealous fans
Read their stuff on Mike Sando’s blog. They can be pretty ridiculous.
Jim Harbaugh doesn't just WANT winners, he MAKES them!
if i have to hear another seahawks fan
Complain about the botched call in the superbowl, I’m going to explode. Watch the tape of the team you wish you could be. The refs blew important calls in the Niners superbowl too, but Joe Montana and co. got over it and won the game, Matt hasselbeck and co. did not.
by BY97ismyhero on Aug 1, 2011 7:04 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
as far as their free agency goes,
They have overpaid for 2nd tier players, though miller is a solid signing.
by BY97ismyhero on Aug 1, 2011 7:06 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Rice is pretty much the best WR outside of Fitzgerald in the NFCW by default.
His contract isn’t that bad at all, either. More or less the same as TJ Houshmandzadeh’s except he’s 7 years younger at the time of signing and has proven ability as a #1 receiver.
Robert Gallery is an above average left guard and contract terms haven’t been disclosed so how do you know he was overpaid?
Brandon Mebane was a steal at 25 million over 5 years.
by Fearless Frog on Aug 1, 2011 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
lol seahawks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4W7rbY5NDc
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
2nd biggest highlight in Seahawk history
sd377 wants to ban me for unleashing the Kaepernick Supernova Gamma Ray
I actually feel bad
I have always like Hassleback. Class Act. Would have been cool to see him in a 9er jersey. I would like to see him have some success.
"Our opponents are nameless and faceless" - Jim Harbaugh
Twitter
I like him a little bit more than I like the rest of the Hawks
not saying much though. Saying like I stepping in gum more than I like stepping in dog poo.
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
F
If they do sign zach miller, then the F gets moved to a D-. To bad. Zach Miller just lost all of his fantasy football value.
1) Patrick Peterson 2) Brooks Reed 3) Shane Vereen 4a) Owen Marecic 4b) Greg McElroy 5) Jalil Brown or Rashad Carmichael 6a) DeAndre Brown 6b) BPA of DT/DE/OG/OC 7a) Alex Henerey 7b) Scott Tolzien
Not a great offseason. I give them a D.
Upgraded their o-line with Gallery. Rice gives them a deep threat and will be a nice tandem with Williams. But Jackson is a huge question mark, and I seriously doubt he can turn into a good QB.
I think they had a pretty bad draft. Although I think Sherman was a good pick.
IFthey are able to sign Miller, it will improve their offseason to a B. He’s a very good TE. Good pass catcher and blocker. Although I can’t see the Raiders letting him go. After all, they did clear up more cap space by restructuring Wimbley.
"I may be an idiot, but one thing I'm not sir, is an idiot." - Peter Griffin
Do you give the 49ers a solid F, then?
by Fearless Frog on Aug 1, 2011 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
As of right now, it's pretty low.
Although there are still a few moves they could, should make which would improve it.
"I may be an idiot, but one thing I'm not sir, is an idiot." - Peter Griffin
This team has McBooFoo written all over them.
sd377 wants to ban me for unleashing the Kaepernick Supernova Gamma Ray
How you figure?
Out of the pile of 49ers rejects we had to choose from, we got Kentwan Balmer (who might not make the team this year) and Michael Robinson, who was recently re-signed and was an ace special teams player and leader on top of being a quality fullback.
by Fearless Frog on Aug 1, 2011 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Branch and TJ are typical McBooFoo signings
A couple million dollars for high draft picks that flopped at their original destination. Those never worked for him here.
sd377 wants to ban me for unleashing the Kaepernick Supernova Gamma Ray
I still have no idea why we cut Mike.
That was a very stupid decision.
"I may be an idiot, but one thing I'm not sir, is an idiot." - Peter Griffin
You're really underselling the re-signing of Brandon Mebane.
He is almost undoubtedly Seattle’s best defensive player and they managed to keep him from leaving to the Rams or Broncos.
Gave 'em an F
Though a D might be more accurate. Their FA period was about as bad as their draft and I think they somehow managed to worsen their chances to compete in the ultra-talented NFC West.
How could you give them such a bad rating? I heard James Carpenter is so awesome that not only does he play both ways, but he actually managed to get drafted twice.
"Be polite to everyone you meet, but be prepared to kill anyone"-tc16cav
by otisnixon'sparty on Aug 1, 2011 11:39 PM PDT reply actions
I'm revoting.
Because of the Miller signing, I change the D I gave to a B.
"I may be an idiot, but one thing I'm not sir, is an idiot." - Peter Griffin
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