49ers Free Agents: Is Aubrayo Franklin On The Verge Of Re-Signing With 49ers?
by David Fucillo on Aug 1, 2011 1:43 PM PDT
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The twitter-verse is starting to heat up with reports that the San Francisco 49ers may have come to terms with nose tackle Aubrayo Franklin. Chris Biderman is reporting the news according to "a source with knowledge of the situation." I don't know Chris, but I do know that his tweet was re-tweeted by the man they call Bay Area Sports Guy. I do know @BASportsguy and he would not retweet the story if he did not think it was a credible source. I suppose we'll see if that blows up in his or my face.
Feel free to take the news with a grain of salt, but given the way this situation has developed, it would not surprise me if Franklin has in fact re-signed. Franklin was scheduled to be in town today to meet with the 49ers staff. If he did not have a deal in hand from another team, it would make sense for him to lock something up with the 49ers. After all, without any offers his leverage would likely only go down.
I will say that pen has likely not yet come to paper. The 49ers have not officially published any news on Franklin, which would come once Franklin actually signs the physical contract.
If this news is in fact true, it is a nice step forward for the defense. There had been talk that Isaac Sopoaga would be inserted in at nose tackle, with Ray McDonald at left defensive end. The potential return of Franklin would create both competition at NT and LDE, while also creating depth once the starters are determined. I realize Sopoaga would be making a good deal of money to be a back up (same holds true for McDonald) but it's always better to have too many options rather than too few (cornerback position, I do believe I'm talking to you). If Franklin does in fact return it would be a positive move forward for the team's 3-4 defense.
More to come on this developing situation.
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by David Fucillo on Aug 1, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
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by manraj7 on Aug 1, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The other thread was the thread
SMH
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 1:45 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Soap or McDonald: Who goes to the bench?
by brundylop on Aug 1, 2011 1:46 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
because you can't have both
We all know McDonald’s bathrooms don’t have OSHA-standard soap in them
by brundylop on Aug 1, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Trade Soap and a mid round pick for Samuel
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
like it
great idea
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That could be a reason for re-signing Franklin
Just a thought
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
what do you mean
Baalke has done a great job
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Depending on Franklin's cap numbers
I still give Baalke a B- at best. CB situation is just awful and it isn’t clear we have a pass rusher which is key to a 3-4.
And it is really hard for me to give a pass on the QB situation.
by asmithisaverage on Aug 1, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Nothing we could do with the CB situation.
JJ wanted to go to a team that was going to compete this season, or would have re-signed with the Bengals who have far greater cap space than we do. Nnamdi wanted to compete also. Cromartie was overpaid. Nate signed with the Bengals because he didn’t want to return. Don’t see what the FO could have done differently. I’m happy they didn’t overpay for an average corner
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They could use another D-linemen
and Soap would fit their rotational scheme
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Thats cause the Cards were dumb enough to take that deal
No other team was in the market for Kolb no matter what anyone says
by Lok on Aug 1, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually as much as I love Soap it wouldnt be a bad idea
We have RJF & Ian Williams as backups and could be brought along quite nicely. but then again you could never have enough good D-linemen and since that Goldson signing might not happen it allows to have the money to spend
by Lok on Aug 1, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I heard Soap was a no-trade clause. any confirm?
Soap really isn’t a bad guy on the rotation. I am unconvinced McDonald can play at full speed an entire game anyway.
by asmithisaverage on Aug 1, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
throw on Haralson, bring back Lawson and keep thr pick.
Wait for it, wait for it, yeah 49ers sign, an undrafted free agent, AGAIN!!
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by David Fucillo on Aug 1, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
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by Drew Kerr on Aug 1, 2011 1:50 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I can live with it
I do know @BASportsguy and he would not retweet the story if he did not think it was a credible source. I suppose we’ll see if that blows up in his or my face.
by David Fucillo on Aug 1, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Has Kreutz definitely retired?
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Good
Kreutz, Franklin, Rogers and Lawson, and we’re set. Possibly a WR too
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Scratch Kruetz...take Edwards.
Snyder is doing well enough and Beeler is prob our future.
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Snyder is dong well enough?
he hasn’t even played in a preseason game yet….or even a full contact scrimmage, far as I know.
In Jed We Trust?
I don't see how people say Beeler is probably our future.
We drafted two interior linemen ahead of him for a reason. I like the kid and all, but familiarity only means so much.
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Sign Franklin, Carlos Rogers, and one good receiver. That’s all we need for the 49ers.
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Don't want the team to start the season with Haralson at OLB...
He really is useless. Need Lawson (obviously on a reasonable contract)
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There's Brooks and Gibson and a couple of nice options as UDFA's too.
We’ll see what happens. Brooks and Haralson have showed flashes at times…. maybe good coaching can help them get to where they need to be. Over the hump
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Brooks and Gibson were both drafted
One in the supplemental draft by Cincinnati (Brooks) and the other in the mid rounds by Pittsburgh (Gibson)
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok.
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Exactly
and they both had that potential out of college as well. Brooks would have been a 1st or 2nd round pick if he had been eligible for the regular draft. Without looking, I think that Gibson was a 4th round pick by Pittsburgh
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'd like to see what Gibson can offer.
I remember I wanted the Niners to take him before the Steelers did. Anyone is an improvement over Haralson. The reason I’d like Lawson also is, because he won’t then sign for the Rams where he would be a great fit in their 4-3, at a position of clear weakness
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This
If Aldon is looking good out there in camp having Lawson play opposite of him would be ideal
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Shame on youuuuss "THIS IS NOT THE THEAD"
you guys bailed on the best thread ever since free agency started for the 49ers
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nope the Williams signing is cause 49ers ended up with 3 potiential FA's
Williams,Franklin & Blohm??
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 1, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Can you wait?
Lunch time is just about over for Baalke and the Yorks, signings will come.
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Someone hacked his account
it is a spam link
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
He must of read Matt Williamsons article
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I'd proabably have to say the bargain of FA so far is Williams on a vet minimum one year deal.
That really is a great deal by the FO
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We only need a few pieces...
CB – Carlos Rodgers & Philip Buchanon?
OLB – Keep Manny
NT – Keep Aubrayo
DE – Ty Warren
FB – Leron McClain
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WR – Malcom Floyd & Braylon Edwards & Steve Smith (NYG) 2 of 3 please
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40MM later
LMAO
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
They already signed another FB Jack Corcoran.
He will compete with Miller for a starting spot.
by SanFranciscoKnights on Aug 1, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
even in Madden, that list is stretching it
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by Young_To_Rice on Aug 1, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
if we resign all of our own guys, all we really need is CB, WR, MLB, & OL depth. i think this years breakout player will be Phillip Adams & Navorro Bowman.
I like our O-Line depth
I think Boone, Pierson & Kilgore are going to be good backup, C is the only position that is of obvious concern. Everything else is right on
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Beeler?? I know he's alil light & inexperienced but he knows the system
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Damn I knew I forgot someone, thanks for the assist
by Lok on Aug 1, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
no doubt
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 1, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
He can gain weight. Put him on a high-cal diet in the offseason.
He won’t need the weight this year since he will be on the bench
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Love his intelligence & his experience plus the fact that he was a consensus all-american
Plus he has starting experience at Center & Guard
by Lok on Aug 1, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Any links on the Franklin signing? Other than the one built into this post? Waiting for Maiocco or Barrows to tweet somethign.
by Sactown_Loyalty19 on Aug 1, 2011 2:17 PM PDT reply actions
iam looking too think we left the other thread too soon
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Are we going to add another QB?
It sounds like it from Harbaugh’s, “We may” remark to the the media.
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yea had that before when I played...prob drained blood out from under toenail
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The frustration...
Is palpable on this site. And for good reason. Having been a life long 49er fan, it’s so tragic to me to have witnessed the decline of this franchise under the ownership of the York’s. 9 years of futility with no end in site. I like our coach, but that’s not enough. And I don’t think we’ll suck enough to get Luck. Frustration and no cathartic swearing = misery!
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On repeat huh?
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 1, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Horrible
I really liked his upside
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
That sucks...
I hope Ronald Johnson turns out to be a steal though. Looks like he can be a stud slot-guy to me.
by Sactown_Loyalty19 on Aug 1, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know man....Ronald's make up seems perfect for a slot guy,
and the way he runs routes now, he looks ready to contribute. Not a big fan of Kyle Williams.
by Sactown_Loyalty19 on Aug 1, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Watch this and then watch Johnson and reevaluate the situation.
Williams is better in every category. Hands, Speed, Jumping, Awareness, Routes, etc
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Yeah, before I get excited about the AF signing, I need one of the Matts to confirm.
by Sactown_Loyalty19 on Aug 1, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
If true, who here thinks its a 1Y contract again?
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 2:30 PM PDT reply actions
I think it will be a three year deal, possibly with the third year being a team option
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by teekay on Aug 1, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It won't be that high
if it was that high he’d already be signed
It’ll average $5-6 million per year
yep exactly
and will be a great deal for the Niners too
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Should be less
He had no leverage at all.
He got zero interest (reported at least) in FA, and every team that was looking for a NT found their guy and left him out in the cold.
He tested the market, the market declared his value to be less than 5 million a year.
3 years, 13 million.
3 years at 13... no way imo
He was making 7 million last season… he won’t take that deal.
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I'm guessing similar numbers to McDonald's contract
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I think he'll make more annually but on a shorter deal.
He deserves more than McDonald annually
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He only made $7 million because eh was franchised
by smileyman on Aug 1, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, I doubt he would be prepared to take just over half that on a 3 year deal.
I’m guessing he’d rather take a one year deal at 4 million, and test the market again next season, rather than take 3 years at 13 million. He deserves more than McDonald’s 4 million per season.
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Nah, seeing as Cofield was 6 years at 36 mill and Mebane was 5 years at 25
I see 3 years at possibly 16-18. The market has been really soft on tackles this FA
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I doubt it
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Cullen Jenkins: 5Y-25MM
Barry Cofield: 6Y-36MM
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Per year
but, on a shorter contract
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
it won't be a 5 year deal.
4 years at the max. I think it will be a 3 year deal. Aubrayo has no other option really, he has to sign for the Niners. He overplayed his hand
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We'll see. I don't understand giving him a 1-year contract...
at this point with AF, he’s either going to be with us for awhile or somewhere else. Going year-to-year with him seems so unproductive if we’re trying to improve this team (whatever plan that may be).
by Sactown_Loyalty19 on Aug 1, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
im not saying
im just saying if we dont keep Pwillis happy he’s gonna end up in AZ or Seattle kikn our tail.
I don't think BamBam's happiness is contingent upon Franklin. It's all about winning games more than anything.
Willis doesn’t strike me as a stats guy. He just wants to win and do everything in his power to help us do that.
by Sactown_Loyalty19 on Aug 1, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah but how do you know Soap couldn't have done the job?
Just sayin, I think Willis could care less whose in front of him as long as the team is winning. I do think Franklin helps in that regard but I wouldn’t discount Soap either.
by Sactown_Loyalty19 on Aug 1, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
He didn't play great for like 3 to 4 games at a maximum
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are we really helping him he wants to win now not 2015 and with the yorks slow mo process it looks bleek. Its not the defense its our offense more than anything. and we just dont seem ta wanna make a big splash, something to say YEAH.
by tma on Aug 1, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the missing parts to our defense are guys who can cover a wideout beyond their intial break.
Aubrayo definitely helps keep guys off of Willis thus helping stop the run…which is huge.
by Sactown_Loyalty19 on Aug 1, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
HMMM....still not tweets from either of the Matt's about Aubrayo.
Is the guy linked to the AF story credible?
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I follow him for Oakland Athletic news
and, he seems pretty credible
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Patience
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by EcERyda69 on Aug 1, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
patience... it will be off
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Kiper blows and so does Maybin
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Could be waiting to announce multiple signings
Franklin, Goldson, Kruetz and Rogers. That would be like to all heck with patience LOL
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 2:48 PM PDT reply actions
don't get our hopes up! LOL
What’s funny is that we’ll all be jumping up for joy if we did that now. 48 hours ago, we’d probably be underwhelmed.
by Sactown_Loyalty19 on Aug 1, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
reward our own?
i may be late with this, but what happened to rewarding our own, ive seen many teams decide to keep their own players and pay them well, i dont want to overpay for anyone but arent we being a little frugal with our guys. We should have kept TKO, Baas, Clements and still need to get/keep Goldson/Franklin/Lawson. If the Eagles can sign all those people, and NE make those trades, and Seattle haul in those new guys, how is it we dont have enough cash to get the players we want? are we close to the 90% min spending?
From what ive heard, that 90% spending doesnt come into affect until next season
by Lok on Aug 1, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Sam Lam of the Examiner seems to think it is happening.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 2:56 PM PDT reply actions
post
This is based on the same tweet as ours. This is not new information. We both wrote about the same thing.
by David Fucillo on Aug 1, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
clarification
He spoke with the writer. I based my post on the person who retweeted it.
by David Fucillo on Aug 1, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Before he was checking for clarification
but now he decided to post it on the Examiner site. So, I decided to add that link here.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Whats so exciting...
Franklin just a very average player.
9ers keep signing these average F/A guys.
Hawks-Cards-Rams are doing much better in their F/A signings.
Rams yes
Cardinals and Seahawks, not as much.
Just because you are signing players doesn’t mean they are upgrdes
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Thats the thing bout the NT position the recognition is limited, he has been a really good player for us
To me he has been a top 5 3-4 NT for the past few years
by Lok on Aug 1, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
And
adding Williams to the mix, who is going to be solid in 2011. Also, utilizing Aldon Smith as a hybrid 3-4 end in certain situations.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Franklin, an average player? you must be kidding.
By the end of last season, he was one of the top five or six NTs in the league (he started slowly because of missing pre-season). Smith and Willis owe some of their success to Franklin.
Here’s one commentator on summing up Franklin last year.
http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/02/2010-49ers-what-the-film-revealed/?scp=1&sq=Benoit%20Forty%20Niners&st=cse
“The ability of nose tackle Aubrayo Franklin to hold ground and force stalemates against double teams allowed the ends – especially relentless star Justin Smith – to wreak havoc.”
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Center has been going well. A lot of work to be done still but my intentions are to be the starter opening day. #stayfocused
Could be smart
want to see how he performs in pre-season with Beeler playing later in the game.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Kruetz is contemplating retirement
Harbaugh won’t have a player on his team who is not super-motivated. O’Hara’s health is unreliable.
The Biggest Center in the league. Adam Snyder is 6’6" and 325lb.
by Tantrum16 on Aug 1, 2011 3:13 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
He's slimmed down to 300 lb
Snyder’s move to center allows the team to test Beeler for the long term.
nope...Synder now 6'6 and 300 lbs
reported he dropped 25 lbs from last season. So is that a positve or negative, time will tell.
nobody is better yet
The cards will still have a terrible Oline, Fitzgerald is the only WR returning that gave us problems, they have no running game (a rookie and a underachieving Beanie Wells does not scare me) and they lost a cover corner in DRC and replaced him with a young nickel corner who got burned all last season. Our defense has dominated the last 2 yrs, as long as we get some CB help that wont change, we will stop the run.
Seattle got a WR who is talented, but with Tarvaris and Whitehurst at the helm, they will lose. Their defense is the same, their best player is the 12th man. All they have is a running game, we have P Willis and Bowman, not scared…
The Rams were the team to beat and still are so we are where we thought we were.
I saw rumors that Minnesota was trying to talk to him too
by Lok on Aug 1, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Can't see Edwards signing with Arizona
They didn’t match Kansas City’s team friendly offer to Breaston, so I am not sure they are looking at doling out 7-8MM for a WR
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree, we would have the money since the team only paid the vet min to get Williams & if the possible w/ Franklin would be about 5 to 6 mil a season
It would give Alex Smith or Kaep that big target from the WR position that we havent had since TO
by Lok on Aug 1, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
O-Line player weights...
Is this correct now?
Staley – 310 lbs
Iupati – 330 lbs
Snyder – 300 lbs
Rachal – 325 lbs
Davis- 325 lbs
Williams stats
mattbarrows Matt Barrows
Williams’ 2010 stats: 13 starts, 75 tackles, 1 INT on 8th-ranked defense; Goldson’s: 16 starts, 80 tackles, 1 INT on 13th-ranked defense.
Interesting
I think it validates my earlier point of this being an upgrade
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah i mean its similar stats but stats dont always tell everything
I noticed that he didnt include missed/broken tackle. how many times he was burned and how he was used in blitz packages & in the nickle scheme
by Lok on Aug 1, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Would have to do some research on that
But, he was part of a Viking secondary that finished 10th in the NFL in passing defense. Where did the 49ers finish? Of course, there are other factors that come into play such as pass rush and corner play, but it shows something
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree its indicative of what he can do
Plus there is the leadership aspect of the signing, I mean you dont win the Payton award for being nothing, the guy will be a great presence in the locker room and in the secondary where its comprised mostly of young guys outside of Shawntee Spencer.
by Lok on Aug 1, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Appears to be on the career down slope since his neck injury
No reason to believe he will be an improvement to Goldson in any way,
No reason to believe he would be an upgrade over Goldson?
The 2009 version? The 2010 version? Consistency, impact, coverage ability etc…. If you are talking about 2009, you may be right. If you are talking about 2010, you are wrong. If you are talking about full body of play over their careers, Williams has been better
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought that conventional wisdom (supported by the beat writers) was that Goldson played with an injury all season. If 2010 performance was Goldson’s typical, he would have bee cut by now — let alone being pursued for a new contract.
Even in 2009 Goldson wasn't that great
he managed to get turnovers but was fairly useless in actual coverage.
That Cardinal game
was most epic, but it also padded his stats. Listen, I am a fan of Goldson’s ability moving forward but not at the contract he wants, or it seems that he wants
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I am not a huge fan of Goldson but if Lord Fangio thinks he can develop him into an evil ballhawker, I’m for it — for the right price.
I still think that the Vikings fans and bloggers who are saying good riddance to Williams may have a point. He’ll probably be a one-year band-aid.
I am looking at that too
San Francisco has multiple young safeties, so it makes sense to go for that cheap one year “band-aid” rather than dole out millions of guaranteed to an under performing coverage safety like Goldson.
Best case scenario is him living up to pre-injury form and making it an absolute steal
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
agreed
At least goldson is a young talent with an on off year, Williams has had 3, and who knows if he lasts half the season?
by BY97ismyhero on Aug 1, 2011 3:35 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Thats why its a 1 year deal, he can be as productive as Dashon was last season as the rest of the safety I.e Taylor Mays continues to develop
by Lok on Aug 1, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
it could be a money issue,
But mays is a big question mark, whereas goldson is not.
by BY97ismyhero on Aug 1, 2011 3:38 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Goldson would have been a question as well
Let say the team gave him a big deal, which Dashon would you get 09’ or 10’. To me thats a bigger question mark than a 2year safety who was a 2nd round pick with not alot of money invested in him
by Lok on Aug 1, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Also
there is no reason to believe that he wont return to pre injury form.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
true, but
The odds on goldson being having an injury free and productive year are higher than Williams odds, and why sign a stopgap when you can resign a young starter?
by BY97ismyhero on Aug 1, 2011 3:42 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
810,000 one year contract
as long as he’s as good as goldson, it was a good move
Well
Curtis Taylor, Reggie Smith and Taylor Mays would all probably be better than the 2010 version of Goldson
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
i guesss im just not convinced of that
by BY97ismyhero on Aug 1, 2011 3:45 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Dude
was so horrible in coverage last season it wasn’t even funny. I am talking about not understanding scheme and being caught completely away from the play on multiple occasions. Taking the wrong route in covering the passes and getting burnt more times than we can count on one finger.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
you said it best
San Francisco has multiple young safeties, so it makes sense to go for that cheap one year "band-aid" rather than dole out millions of guaranteed to an under performing coverage safety like Goldson.
i think that i am convinced.
I think I was holding onto the 09 version of goldson for too long.
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Patiently wait to execute the plan...............
While all the talent signs elsewhere…………….
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by Italia1970 on Aug 1, 2011 3:37 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Amazing insight
probably the best insight I have heard around the web since the start of free agency. I mean, you went so in depth in that analysis that I am having a hard time fathoming it.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Stevie Wonder........................
Can see where this trail leads.
Are you telling me that you don’t?
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Fathom another FA walk out the door..............
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I heard Franklin signed
not sure if you know or not
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A suggestion
To have one or two threads posted on the front page a day would make the conversation even more enjoyable. Doing so would help keep the conversations fragmented. It’s difficult to carry one on, only to have it stop every couple of hours.
one or two threads
You mean like the official free agency FanPosts created on the side of the page?
by David Fucillo on Aug 1, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
No. I mean like one (or two as an overflow thread) post to serve as a central thread to tie in all niner talk for the day. While the free agency fanpost is an insightful thread, there is plenty of traffic on the front page posts that would benifit from being anchored corralled into one thread.
Are you saying...
A post that remains at the top ahead of new posts? Can you email me at ninersnation at gmail dot com?
by David Fucillo on Aug 2, 2011 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
so what did I miss today?
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Where is our confirmation from the Matt's? Went to a meeting for an hour hoping I'd come back to some sort of news.
Somehow it’s back to the same old stuff.
by Sactown_Loyalty19 on Aug 1, 2011 4:02 PM PDT reply actions
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"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Alrite, were's the Franklin official signing from the Matt's & Mindy??
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
we'll just have to pretend that there have been no other threads posted
until he is actually signed. I petition that nobody comments on the other thread until this happens!
It's strange... and kind of telling that he has not been a single teams radar publicly.
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If we bring him back maybe he can play corner since he can't pass rush.
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Harbaugh could make up a new position for him
kinda like the elephant was for Haley, except for the opposite because he can’t pass rush.
WTF?!?!? Is AF signed or what??? Are we signing Carlos Rogers?!?!?
I’m tired of this patience thing. What’s the plan and what are we doing? Us fans deserve to know. We’ve been nothing but loyal to this team through the ups and downs…and the very bottom of downs.
by Sactown_Loyalty19 on Aug 1, 2011 4:18 PM PDT reply actions
They could be writing up the contract as we speak
by Lok on Aug 1, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 1, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Dashon Goldson Tweet
To answer sum of the ?‘S I’m not sure wht tht move by the 9ers was for, I guess to scare me….well it didn’t work. Try again
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 4:19 PM PDT reply actions
Dashon Goldson
@thehawk38 Dashon Goldson
To answer sum of the ?‘S I’m not sure wht tht move by the 9ers was for, I guess to scare me….well it didn’t work. Try again
well mr. goldson; you are not coming back as a niner. take care.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 1, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep.
Two teams interested in his services and now it’s down to one…. Have fun with that Raiders.
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Arent the Raiders out as well cause they resigned Michael Huff?
by Lok on Aug 1, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I responded to him
Its about getting good players on the team, not replacing you. Would hope you understand that
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
so you told him he was not a good player? lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 1, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
hi mr. goldson
since you do not have a team, let me buy you a happy meal.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 1, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
well mr. goldson. you can have papa smurf with hawk wings made of french fries.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 1, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is an example of when tweeting is to your disadvantage
Lets all learn from him people
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 1, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
he is pissed right now. lol
he was hoping for a huge contract. not gona get it.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 1, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
For sure but he's going into the darkside
Making a public spectical of himself & into a punchline
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 1, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
he better go where he is wanted soon. longer it takes is not good.
I would be anxious if I was him. this contract is what he has worked for.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 1, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
and he was replaced by a guy willing to take a one year 800K contract
would be upset if I were him too
lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 1, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Its a point
in him being an egocentric individual that doesn’t play for a team, rather for himself. I wonder how Williams would take that tweet if Goldson re-signed with San Francsico?
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I dont know if they actually talked but this is what he said
“I’m definitely keepin an open mind. Meanin I won’t mind takin my talents else where to a place where I’m wanted whether thts san fran, dallas or whreva”
by Lok on Aug 1, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
what a loser
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs in 2012, hopefully! :)
Hope we don't sign dashon now
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deuces
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bye bye
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 1, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
NEW POST SOON
Gonna use Goldson’s tweet as the basis for it…let us get out of this clearly bad luck thread.
It is all your fault
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
this I'm with
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 1, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
thehawk38 Dashon Goldson
I’m definitely keepin an open mind. Meanin I won’t mind takin my talents else where to a place where I’m wanted Whether thts san fran, dallas or whreva
dallas, go for it dude. please go please.
lets see what mays and reggie can do.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 1, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I think
he is having a tweet-blowup as we speak, stay tuned; its going to be fun LOL
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 1, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
The Dallas comment came from a fan asking him how he would feel playing in Dallas.
He responded, “wouldn’t mind at all” or something like that.
There is no truth to Dallas having interest in him
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