49ers vs. Saints: Player X Is Our Future!!!
by David Fucillo on Aug 10, 2011 5:02 PM PDT
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PrintThe 49ers and Saints will meet up Friday evening at the Superdome and we'll finally have some real honest-to-goodness football to watch. Or at least, exhibition/preseason/whatever football. All that matters though is football will be back. And with the return of preseason football comes the chance to wildly overreact to a performance we'll see on Friday.
Although we're all die hards and we try and focus in on the minutia of the team, we're all still fans that can get as excited as anybody else. By the time Friday's game wraps up, almost all of us will have focused in on one or two players we think are officially ready to take a step from unknown backup to eventual super star. Unfortunately that player generally ends up either cut or on the practice squad with people wondering when the front office will realize their mistake.
I say that with some level of confidence because recent seasons have seen such players emerge right out of the gate. Last year the 49ers blew out the Indianapolis Colts 37-17 in their preseason opener and we were introduced to linebacker Bruce Davis. In the opener, Davis recorded six tackles and a sack. He would end up on the practice squad and now is a member of the Oakland Raiders.
In 2009 we had two players create a bit of a stir in the preseason opener against the Broncos. The man who inspired this title, Kory Sheets, had 10 rushes for 51 yards, including a 25-yard run that got the bandwagon rolling. The other player was fullback Brit Miller, who recorded two receptions for 43 yards, both of which were for touchdowns. It shouldn't be surprising how quickly people jumped on that bandwagon. Both guys ended up on the practice squad, both guys are now elsewhere.
And finally in 2008, we had the brief emergence of running back Thomas Clayton. In the opener against the Raiders, Clayton only had five rushes for 27 yards, but many of us were quickly enamored nonetheless. Clayton would hang around into the 2009 preseason but not much longer. He was apparently recently claimed by the Seattle Seahawks off waivers from the Patriots. Maybe he will be their future.
So it is now prediction time. The 2011 season is a hard one to predict for the 49ers, but all I'm asking for is a prediction for Friday. What bottom-of-the-depth-chart player is going to shine on Friday, thus creating an overwhelming buzz amongst the fans?
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Korey Sheets and etaN sivaD
Bringing you the 49ers future since 2008!
by Odekerk on Aug 10, 2011 5:05 PM PDT reply actions 7 recs
Aah ha Kory Sheets was this, what two years ago!?!?!
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Need a Nate "The Great" Davis Pic as well
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 10, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Kyle Williams is my current rostered future.
Xavier Omon is my PS FUTURE!!!
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Cory Nelms is our FUTURE!!
Not a troll
by Riding The F Train on Aug 10, 2011 5:11 PM PDT reply actions
Just look at my sig, and that is all you need to know
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"I am our future, forget Kory"
by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 10, 2011 5:11 PM PDT reply actions
Coverage online??
Guys,
Any ideas where i can watch this online.. probably not live due to time zone issues.
My prediction?
Hope to watch Tyler Beiler catch a few….
Interested in how Cully holds up.
I don’t think the score matters… keen to see the offensive schemes
49ers Fan from the other side of the world
New Zealand
THE GAME
I was told you got to get a hold of the NFL Network and subscribe to something, I sent them an e-mail but got nothing back, that was middle last week…..and I can’t find a number either…how about you…I watch gamecast if nothing else as my cable is having a problem in my area….DTV no less, and they say it may not be back until late Friday or Sat morn….
BOB 'BEETLE' BEILHARZ
NFLNetwork
they got something on the website.
My issue is NFLN only holds the games online for 2 hours… which given i’m on the wrong side of the world, is problematic.
49ers Fan from the other side of the world
New Zealand
NFLN , replays the game on Saturday 10 pm here in the west ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
Rite 10 pm in one of the ZONES ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
Thats Sunday 2pm NZST
… and not sure i can get that thru the website.
I’ll keep looking…
49ers Fan from the other side of the world
New Zealand
Geoblocked. Not in the US
49ers Fan from the other side of the world
New Zealand
I live on the other side of the world as well
And I watch all my games through the NFL.com feature called NFL Game Pass.
It costs a lot but it’s worth every penny. You can basically watch any game you want replay or live. Also you get Redzone and NFLN. Seriously, I love it.
Just some advice from another overseas fan.
Apparent injury
Heard Braylon Edwards is injured.
by Tantrum16 on Aug 10, 2011 5:15 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
No link.
Harbaugh mentioned it.
"I may be an idiot, but one thing I'm not sir, is an idiot." - Peter Griffin
Im not sure that he was referring to an injury
I took it as more of out of shape, but I am just assuming this… you know what they say bout those
2011 season can't come quick enough..
by AzNiner on Aug 10, 2011 5:42 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Dang , what have we become when it's not true unless some hyper net Link is attached, what happened to the leap of faith and the human touch ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
Here you go....
Harbaugh noted – for the first time – that Edwards is not 100 percent healthy. As is his custom, Harbaugh didn’t shed much light on the issue. “He’s working through a little something right now that’s slowing him down, but he’s practicing every day,” he said.
Read more: http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2011/08/edwards-nicked-harbaugh-wants-to-make-wrs-relevant-again.html#ixzz1Ug2cUMFE
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 10, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
seems more precautionary than anything serious
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 10, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Recap ...!!
Braylon Edwards not injured but legs are tight. Said BE: "Nothing is physically wrong, just the legs trying to get back to where they were.
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
he really likes this line.
He’s working through a little something right now
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
ALEX SMITH UNDER CONDITIONS X,Y AND Z IS OUR FUTURE!!!
sd377 wants to ban me for unleashing the Kaepernick Supernova Gamma Ray
X = Harbaugh
Y = Greg Roman
Z = Braylon Edwards
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by Drew Kerr on Aug 10, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe
Need to include “no better options” as a condition.
I don’t see smith as a superbowl winning QB, happy to be proven wrong… but don’t see it
49ers Fan from the other side of the world
New Zealand
99% of quarterbacks in the league aren't superbowl winning QBs
including some that have ended up in the HOF.
Correct.
..but are we aiming low here?
49ers Fan from the other side of the world
New Zealand
We're aiming realistic
because there are about 3 million other factors that contribute to a Super Bowl winning team other than the QB
Aim for the stars.. hit the tree
Aim for the tree… hit the ground.
49ers Fan from the other side of the world
New Zealand
Well , gravity precludes the end result ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
the higher you go the less gravity affects you
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Trent Dilfer is a prime example
Not a GREAT QB per se, but he’s got a ring.
by TLich on Aug 10, 2011 6:14 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
There are always exceptions...
Dilfer, Gannon and E Manning in recent times.
But seems to help doesn’t it?
Young, Aikman, Farve Elway, Warner, Brady, Roethlisberger, Manning, Brees, Rogers.
If you want to go back repeatedly you need a top flight QB.
49ers Fan from the other side of the world
New Zealand
Those are some really bad examples
Rapistburger’s first SB was one despite him, not because of him. The rest have come more because of the stellar play of the defense than any special skills he might have.
Steve Young didn’t get his SB ring until the defense was considerably upgraded. He had fantastic individual years during the early 90s but couldn’t get over the hump thanks to a defense that continually let the team down.
Favre’s first SB came after a nearly 50% turnover in starters on the offensive line, a new RB, a new #1 WR, a 75% turnover on the defensive line, and probably most important of all Desmond Howard in the return game.
Elway’s first SB didn’t come until the Broncos got a young RB by the name of Terrel Davis. Previously he had made it to 3 SBs and lost each of them and in that first SB with Davis it was Davis’ performance that won the game for them. Elway never made it to another one after Davis got injured.
Peyton Manning was a multi-MVP winning, mult-Pro Bowler, multi-every passing statistic winner guy without a SB to his name. He didn’t make it to that SB until Joseph Addai showed up.
Drew Brees has been to one Super Bowl in 10 years as a player. The defensive roster on the Saints from 2007 to 2008 was almost 1/2 new starters.
Rogers—The Packers defense had a new safety, a new CB, 2 new starting ILBs, a new DE and a new NT.
Is a QB important in the NFL? Yeah, there’s no denying that. Is a QB going to take your team to the SB? Not by himself he won’t or Peyton Manning would have 7 or 8 SB rings by now.
In my opinion a great QB can make the different in maybe 30% of your games. If you don’t have the other pieces—especially defense—you won’t win the SB. You might put up great records each year and make it deep into the playoffs, but you won’t make it unless you have those pieces.
I’d take a top 5 defense and an average QB any day of the week and twice on Sundays over a top 5 QB and an average defense.
I think the following dynamic applies
To make a deep playoff run, you usually have to be able to throw the ball.
But once you get deep into the playoffs, chances are every team you play can throw the ball at a near equivalent level — so pass defense becomes increasingly important compared to the regular season. Since other teams are thinking the same way, it’s also helpful if you can run the ball.
Bottom line is that one dimensional contenders are very rare and the exceptions (2000 Ravens) did so by being one of the best in history at their singular dimensions.
I disagree
Bottom line is that one dimensional contenders are very rare and the exceptions (2000 Ravens) did so by being one of the best in history at their singular dimensions.
It’s easier than ever to be a one dimensional contender. Have to go back to the 2005 Patriots to find a champion or SB participant without a significant flaw.
In the 90’s SB teams had to be upper tier almost all around, with the exception being some teams could do it without top notch special teams.
sd377 wants to ban me for unleashing the Kaepernick Supernova Gamma Ray
Really? You went Joseph Addai as the difference maker for the Colts?
How about a much better defense than they had in previous years.
In Jed We Trust?
Or simply ( Team ) game ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
Colts analysis is off.
Peyton Manning was a multi-MVP winning, mult-Pro Bowler, multi-every passing statistic winner guy without a SB to his name. He didn’t make it to that SB until Joseph Addai showed up.
No. The Colts had a better running game prior to trading Edge and going for broke on Addai. Addai was just a younger version of Edge who blocked a little better, but did not have the same big play capability.
What made the difference the year the Colts won the SB was the defense. We went from having a terrible D for the regular season to the second coming of the 86 Bears D for the playoffs. Incidentally, Manning was the MVP, but many think that Kelvin Hayden, who had a pick 6 in the fourth should have been. What the Colts D-Line (Freeney, Booger MacFarland and Mathis) and saftey Bob Sanders (DPOY that year) did to opposing offenses should be illegal in at least 48 states.
-- Life is to short to take everything serious. Especially sports blogs.
Elway retired...
After he won his second Super Bowl. Davis was injured in 1999, but by then , Griese was the QB. Still, your point is a good one. A good QB can only get you so far.
Elway never made it to another one after Davis got injured.
Regrets not picking the car over Debbie.
Somewhere on this
site I read 25% chance of the actual best team winning the Super.
Good times ahead for me , this means i'm back to the Casino , Dollar dogs , dollar pulled pork and of coarse tons of Hot Women...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
Anybody know how Scott McKillop has been doing in practice??
Seems he’s out of sight, out of mind….
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Here you go...
https://twitter.com/smckillop56/status/101452521792483328
49ers Fan from the other side of the world
New Zealand
Ha he needs to worry more about playing cause he's like what 3rd on depth chart
behind Bowman & Larry Grant
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 10, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I am
actually trying to make it out to NOLA for the game Friday evening. I have Southwest rewards and free hotel tickets. Just too last second, not sure yet.
Either way, I am going to be looking at a few specific things. First, how Kaepernick plays with the second team offense. Second, how Kendall Hunter performs when he is in the game. Third, how the corners (whoever’s healthy) looks. And finally, the offensive and defensive schemes
Yes, I just did Twitter. Follow me for ultra intelligent insight.
"I am our future, forget Kory"
by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 10, 2011 5:34 PM PDT reply actions
Have fun in New Orleans
oh, if you pick up a woman in french quarter, make sure she doesn’t have a big adam’s apple :)
"Cocaine is a hell of a drug" Rick James
by DrWhoDat on Aug 10, 2011 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
S Colin Jones.
He’ll make some plays on special teams and defense with his speed that will wow lots of people.
I survived the David Carr Press Conference Thread 3/06/2010
And Harbamania. And the San Francisco Giants 2010 World Series season.
My Bold Prediction: Hunter and Long
Lance Long and Kendall Hunter will become our Patriots equivalent of Wes Welker and Danny Woodhead.
Interesting News
Goldson chose the 49ers over New England, who had offered him a contract.
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"I am our future, forget Kory"
by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 10, 2011 6:10 PM PDT reply actions
this was reported when he agreed to sign a few days ago
sd377 wants to ban me for unleashing the Kaepernick Supernova Gamma Ray
Misoli is our future…..We can run the wildcat and do triple reverse screen passes….
I will no longer call the player Craptree, Glasstree or Fuzzy Badfeet are options though....
Correction you mean the great..........TAZER, 49ers don't run know stinking wildcat ;-)
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 10, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
*no
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 10, 2011 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions
we can always run some sort flea flicker
handing the ball off from Alex to Masoli and he lateral to Colin to throw downfield.
he don't know bout that dad gum yahoo.
Kaep may become our Staubach, but Alex is our Craig Morton...
Kevin Jurovich
gotta root for the underdog. Plus he’s from SJSU!
Kaep may become our Staubach, but Alex is our Craig Morton...
seems he's been having a couple of tough days
but hoping his rapport with Alex and a good preseason will push him over the top.
Kaep may become our Staubach, but Alex is our Craig Morton...
This is my thought also ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
How about Kilgore
It’s probably pretty hard for a lineman to get the fan base into a frenzy, but if he puts Franklin on his butt a couple times he’ll be my new player of the future.
rofl
Q: Do you know which cornerbacks will be available for Friday’s game?
Harbaugh: “Yeah, I think we have pretty good idea.”
Q: Will you reveal that?
Harbaugh: “Nah, not really.”
Read more: Harbaugh: Kaepernick most ‘game ready’ of 49ers’ rookies
Tune to SportsNet Central at 6, 10:30 and midnight on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area for more on this story
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
How about they guy who asked a bout the Michigan connection with Braylon ...
… Harbaugh looked at him , huh , what , that’s been asked like Ten times and i think Nine of them were from you , you DMFer …!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
Kenny Rowe is our future.......OLB from Oregon.
A little undersized for a LB but makes life difficult for QBs.
It's obvious
I’m the future guys,duh.
by The real Alex smith on Aug 10, 2011 7:38 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 3 recs
Yay you ...Go you ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
Alex, Alex, he's our man
if he can’t do it…we’ll assassinate his character and call him a loser!
Kaep may become our Staubach, but Alex is our Craig Morton...
Does anyone think that Harbaugh will start wearing a hoodie?
media: “We heard that WR Braylon Edwards is injured, do you any comment on that?”
Harbahh: "I’m sorry, but we don’t talk about the “Player” and his injury!"
media: “Can you confirm if he will be playing in the game on Friday?”
Harbahh: “I can’t even confirm if he is on the team at this point, but uh, I can confirm that Alex is a 49er, and I believe that he can be a sucsessful QB in the NFL!”
media: “Thank you coach, you have been totally worthless in this interview.”
Harbahh: “Mission accomplished.”
He is quite funny.
Q: Do you know which cornerbacks will be available for Friday’s game?
Harbaugh: "Yeah, I think we have pretty good idea."
Q: Will you reveal that?
Harbaugh: "Nah, not really."
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Woww I just realized that's how Harbaugh basically answers all questions in interviews..
Good one.
"Winning means being unafraid to lose." – Fran Tarkenton
soap
Any news on soap?? I think how good our d does is going to be reflected on how good soap plays…its concerning to me that he hasn’t been able to practice esp since the position is new to him
by westxniner on Aug 10, 2011 10:30 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Ask NorCal
Everything 49ers 2011 > Everything 49ers 2010
Yes, the NT position has been upgraded despite the guy now playing NT was a distant backup at the position last season and has yet practiced.
sd377 wants to ban me for unleashing the Kaepernick Supernova Gamma Ray
Reulhland? Roland?
…the 3rd string tight end from Stanford. In Hardballs TE crazy scheme, he’ll catch six passes and a touchdown after he KO’s some 3rd string DB as he rumbles down the sideline into the end zone, and we will all declare him the next Brent Jones.
you read it hear first.
yes I do
p2p4u.net usually has it
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
thank you good sir!
my coworkers will be thanking you as well!
Can't wait to see what we have in Hunter
Running backs don’t develop, they either have it or they don’t. Dixon doesn’t have it.
Those that people like to point out as having “developed” had just as high YPC when they were getting 20 carries a season instead of 200 — and they seem to think aggregate yardage means something. It doesn’t. Those backs were just as good when they weren’t seeing playing time as when they starting getting carries.
Not ready to give up on Dixon after one year
Following your theory, he averaged 4.4 ypc in 4 years at MSU and scored 42 touchdowns. Led the team in rushing all 4 years in a pretty good conference. Seems like he had it then.
Frank Gore barely had 600 yards his rookie year with 127 carries and 3 rushing touchdowns. Dixon had 300 yards on 74 carries and 4 touchdowns. Certainly comparable. I can see Dixon as more of a power back. A replacement for Norris in this offense. One thing for sure is that it’s too quick to pull the plug on Dixon. Looking for him to get lots of work this pre-season.
by Jaxson876 on Aug 11, 2011 6:40 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
College doesn't count.
Otherwise we’d have half a hundred NFL caliber starters entering the league every year. BTW, 4.4 YPC at the NCAA level doesn’t even put Dixon in the Top 100 NCAA rushers.
Do the math on those numbers you posted.
Gore rushed for 4.8 YPC his rookie year, Dixon 3.4.
That’s a huge difference with Frank being clearly well above average and Dixon clearly well below.
by Ougadas on Aug 11, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Brandon Jacobs was pretty horrible his first season
Dixon runs better with more carries, it was obvious in preseason last year. He has to get his nose bloody before he gets rolling … something the coaching staff couldn’t figure out last season.
sd377 wants to ban me for unleashing the Kaepernick Supernova Gamma Ray
Special case
And he was actually pretty good his first season.
He got 38 carries, the vast majority of which were on the goal line. It’s hard to run for more than 3 yards when you are on the 2 yard line.
The clue here is 38 carries but 7 Touchdowns.
Beiler has looked good at the practices ive been to.
I really like Kyle Williams, but if he breaks out i dont think it’ll be a fad. Same goes with Kendall Hunter. I think Masoli is the type of guy thats fits this bill.
"Caring about stuff binds us to the other people that care about stuff, and that creates the communities that makes life worth living."
Red & Gold & Sealver
There is a new precious metal in the bay area last night as the city’s famous gold rush history turned out to be nothing compared to the new Sealver rush.
Dropping Saints 3rd string QB ‘Captain Nobody’ 3 times in as many plays and chewing up the Saints backups as he recorded 6 tackles in his brief outing, a move up to the 49ers second string could be on the cards for rookie ‘Silver’ Sealver Sigilia and could see the Red & Gold have a future Sealver Lining.
-
Its a reach but Sealver Sigilia is our future
Kendall Hunter and Kenny Wiggins
Are my guesses, though Hunter isn’t a fringe-player by any means. He’ll likely break a few big runs and some people will fire up the “trade Gore!” chants again.
Let’s all remember one HUGE element to a RB: PASS PROTECTION!
Watch any passing plays where KH stays in to block and evaluate that. Surest way to move down the depth-chart.
The sky isn't falling. It was just an acorn.
I tweet, therefore I am
QB Won lost Record
I’d like to see Kendall Hunter show his moves.
Also, the discussion earlier in the thread about Defense taking QBs to the Superbowl illustrates one of my big pet peeves, media idiots who insist on judging QBs primarily by won lost record. Won lost record is simply not an individual stat in the NFL.
by Andrew Hutchinson on Aug 11, 2011 10:12 AM PDT reply actions
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