49ers Training Camp Position Battles: The Linebackers
The 49ers linebacking corp has been one of their strengths over the course of the last few seasons. A lot of this has to do with Patrick Willis and Takeo Spikes lining up in the middle of that four man group. There has been issue on the outside in terms of pass rush, but the addition of Aldon Smith may soon rectify that.
There are battles currently being waged in terms of the 49er linebacking corp. Some of these battles are to make the roster and some are to find a starter at the outside positions.
This morning I am going to focus on these battles.
Outside Linebackers
Aldon Smith: I think it is safe to say that he will be starting at the right outside linebacker position. You don't draft a player #7 overall to sit on the bench. Smith has impressed 49er coaches with his technique and ability to get to the pass rusher during training camp. This is something that San Francisco desperately needs at this point. They don't have a lot of other options in terms of linebackers being able to get 10+ sacks. I personally believe that Smith will be a candidate for defensive rookie of the year right up there with Von Miller and Patrick Peterson; this is how good he is.
Obviously, only playing a couple seasons of college football is going to have an impact on how polished Smith is. He still struggles with dropping back into coverage and recognizing offensive formations. Those are things that can be fixed with the right coaching and experience. Smith will be asked to do a few different things on defense as a rookie. First,is getting to the quarterback and providing that pass rush San Francisco has been missing. Secondly, he will line up in different positions depending on offensive formations and game specific situations. You will see the rookie line up as an end up front in certain passing situations. He has the quickness and strength to be able to beet tackles off the edge. I am looking forward to a big year from him
Ahmad Brooks: Since signing with San Francisco in 2009, Brooks has been their most consistent pass rusher gaining 11 sacks during that span. However, he only has 52 tackles during that span meaning that Brooks has been utilized as a pure pass rushing specialist. In order for him to see the field more Brooks needs to pickup his game in other aspects. He hasn't been asked to drop back in coverage a lot, but when asked to it hasn't been that pretty.
He is still only 27 years old and has a lot of talent. I expect San Francisco to work with Brooks a lot in order to get him into the situation where he can be more of an every down backer. As it is, Fangio's new scheme will benefit Brooks a great deal and I could easily see him picking up a few more sacks and having a career season.
Parys Haralson: After jumping onto the scene with 8 sacks in 2008, Haralson barely matched that total over the last two seasons. He has dropped out of favor in regards to 49er fans and for good reason. We don't see a consistent pass rush from him and there doesn't seem to be much drive in Haralson to get to that next level. What he have right now in Haralson is a player that is good for between 4-6 sacks a season, and only utilized in certain circumstances.
There is a possibility that he will regain old form under the tutiledge of Vic Fangio, who loves to blitz his backer and move the front seven around a great deal. This type of scheme seems to fit Haralson extremely well because of his athleticism. If he tops out at 6 sacks in 2011, that will not be bad considering he would be the first OLB off the bench.
Antwan Applewhite: Surprisingly, Applewhite started 14 games for the San Diego Chargers that season and did a pretty darn good job. He recorded 48 tackles, 3 sacks and 2 forced fumbles. Not bad for a "project" player in only his second season in the NFL.
A few day ago Fooch posted a San Diego Chargers bloggers' perspective on Applewhite.
John Gennaro at Bolts from the Blue had the following to say about the former Chargers backer.
Really good guy, and known for his versatility (good special teamer, can play ILB in a pinch), but lacking in terms of talent. Last year in the preseason his pass-rushing skills seem to blossom out of nowhere, but they dropped off again once we made it to the season and he was pushed into the starter's role.
It is that versatility that is going to allow Applewhite to make the team. San Diego gave Applewhite a second round tender prior to the lockout but dropped it following a DUI arrest. He has a nice amount of upside and is still only 25 years old. The fact that Applewhite is a good special teamer and can play inside is another positive for his chances to make the roster. I look forward to seeing what he can do during the preseason.
Thaddeus Gibson: A 4th round pick of the Pittsburgh Steelers in the 2010 draft, Gibson didn't make it out of camp. It is surprising that a player selected that high in the draft fails to make the 53 man roster. Shortly there after, San Francisco picked him up from the waiver wire.
Reading reports of Gibson coming out of college, I was extremely high on him going to the San Francisco 49ers. I had even thought they might draft him instead of NaVorro Bowman in the 3rd round, but it never materialized. Gibson is more than just a pass rusher and is a solid all around player. He lacks a lot of physical ability to play closer to the line of scrimmage, so the 3-4 OLB spot seems to fit him extremely well. In just a couple games with the 49ers last season Gibson did record 2 forced fumbles. It is hard to project at this point how Gibson stands in regards to the 53 man roster, but he does have a tremendous amount of upside.
Blake Costanzo: Purely a special teams player, Costanzo was an ace for ST coach Brad Sealy with the Cleveland Browns over the last couple of season. In fact, he has recorded 4 forced fumbles and 4 fumble recoveries during that span. It has been said that he is an absolute nut on the field and might have a few screws loose. Well, doesn't every team need that on their roster? My presumption is that Costanzo makes the team as a special teams players because of the new regimes focus on special teams.
Kenny Rowe: Still hard to figure why the former Oregon Duck standout went undrafted in April's draft. He has recorded a whopping 18 sacks over the last two seasons and seems to fit perfectly into what 3-4 teams are looking for in regards to a rushing backer. It is still a long shot that Rowe makes the team, but I really want to see him get some reps in the preseason. At the very least, you are looking at a great practice squad addition.
My Outside Linebacker Depth Chart
1. Aldon Smith
2. Ahmad Brooks
3. Parys Haralson
4. Antwan Applewhite
5. Blake Castonzo
6. Thaddeus Gibson
7. Kenny Rowe
Inside linebackers
At this point the only competition that Patrick Willis is involved in is being the best defensive player in the entire league. So, I am not even going to mention him in this article.
NaVorro Bowman: The loss of Takeo Spikes did hurt San Francisco, but they do have a young inside linebacker ready to take over. Bowman, a 3rd round pick from Penn State in April, has shown flashed of being an extremely solid starter in the NFL. He played pretty darn well in limited action as a rookie.. However, he was a liability in coverage and showed how inexperience can hurt a team.
I fully expect Patrick Willis and the coaching staff to work with Bowman during training camp in order to get these issues fixed. I think that we will all be surprised at how performs as a Soph in 2011.
Scott McKillop: He was a special teams ace for San Francisco as a rookie in 2009, but went down to unjury prior to the 2010 season. It seems that McKillop is now at full strength and ready to challenge Bowman, if possible, for the starting MLB spot opposite Patrick Willis. That is going to be an uphill climb for the young backer, but he has the talent and determination to make it interesting. At the very least, McKillop will make the roster as the 3rd MLB and special teams ace
Keaton Kristick: I don't know what it is, but I like the way this guy plays. I have seen tape on him at Oregon State and watched him playing during the preseason last year. He seems to have the "it factor", meaning that he is the type of player that isn't afraid to put his nose in there and get dirty. My comparison to Kristick would be former 49er linebacker Jamie Winborn. Someone, that doesn't have the most talent and doesn't look like a backer, but can play. He will be one of the players vying for the final MLB spot on the 53 man roster.
Larry Grant: The Santa Rosa native, was drafted by the 49ers in 2008, but didn't stick on the roster. St. Louis picked him up from the practice squad and he great for them in limited action over the last couple seasons. He started 8 games for the Rams in 2010, recording 24 tackles, 2 sacks and 2 forced fumbles. This is a player that was brought in strictly for depth. San Francisco isn't looking at him being a starting linebacker in their defense. Instead, they are looking for him to come in and contribute on occasion and fulfill the necessary spot on special teams. If I were a betting man, I would say that Grant has the upper hand over Kristick at this point.
Monte Simmons: An undrafted free agent from Kent State, Simmons recorded 20.5 in four college seasons. He was brought in team a training camp body, so lets see how he performs during the preseason
Alex Joseph: Much like Simmons, Joseph has a long road ahead of him in order to make the 53 man roster. He was a three year starter for the Temple Owls from 2007-2009 before going undrafted.
My Inside Linebacker Depth Chart
1. Patrick Willis
2. NaVorro Bowman
3. Larry Grant
4. Scott McKillop
5. Keaton Kristick
6. Monte Simmons
7. Alex Joseph
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Aldon's got a good shot at D-ROY I think
because of the position he plays.
I think it’s really hard for a DB to win ROY simply because when you do your job correctly, you’re not getting any press attention.
Sacks, though, get a ton of attention!
And they're switching to a 4-3...
Wasn’t the thought that Miller was too small to play DE in a standard 4-3 in the NFL. I doubt he gets the production that people think he would. Plus, I don’t think Dumervil is going to procude like he did two years ago.
by 9thevolution on Aug 11, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
i hate that he's a Saint
but i gotta root my Cal Players! GO CAM JORDAN!!
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by imjuliooo89 on Aug 11, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
von miller has bust labeled on him and plays on a 43 team.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 11, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
he will bust but it is not his fault
he would be perfect in Nolan’s 3-4 with Elvis on the other side. Now he is in a position he is not supposed to be in
broncos waste their draft picks.
tebow last year and now von bust miller lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 11, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
It's lulzworthy how he's a bust
before he’s even seen the field.
You trollin’.
Kaep may become our Staubach, but Alex is our Craig Morton...
we trollin'
I draft Patrick Peterson to play OLB I can assume he will bust. Now it is not this bad obviously, but from the outside looking in, it appears that they drafted the wrong guy for the scheme they will play in. I’m saying he would be scary good in Dallas, Pittsburg, or the old Broncos. Not so much anymore
I was mostly picking on HH
but I agree that it’s not really the right system for him.
Kaep may become our Staubach, but Alex is our Craig Morton...
go look up the definition of troll and what you did just now fits in perfectly.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 11, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
He's gonna be the same as Aaron Curry....
He’s over-drafted and playing at a position that isn’t what he’s best suited for. At least now, with the contract limits, the Broncos won’t be paying as much as Curry costs.
by 9thevolution on Aug 11, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
great example
Curry is wasted up in Turkey Town. Guy could do some damage on the right team (GB would be just right). Soon a 4-3 OLB will tear it up and everyone (3-4 teams included) will draft prototypical 4-3 OLB like they do now with 3-4 pass rushers. Copycat league.
I am hoping for a solid 6-7 sack season from Aldon but I don't think it is enough for DROY
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That would be a monster season
by 49ers-of-the-last-5-years standards. I’d be satisfied!
Kaep may become our Staubach, but Alex is our Craig Morton...
I see your 6-7 and raise ou 7-10
I just see Smith as a beast coming off tackles, and nabbing several sacks this year. I have all the confidence in the world in Fangio’s schemes, and if Patrick Willis is going to be blitzing more often voids could be left open outside.
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by chicagobullies on Aug 11, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Better than DWare because Smith has the ability to cover
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Part of it depends on which side he will rush from.. if he were on Justin Smith's side.. he could get more sacks
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I am going a little crazy and hope he has a 6 sack game against the rams.
that should lock him up for rookie of the year.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 11, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
i feel you on that
i can see him w/ 3 sacls and a coupla’ pressures.
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Aug 11, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
against the Hawks week 1
if he gets 3 sacks that game then he will already beat Lawson’s sack total
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Agree...Aldon is going into a stituation where our defense is going to have him rush the QB almost everytime. The fact he's going to play DE on 4-man fronts on 3rd downs only increases his chances.
If he records a lot of sacks, I think those will really stand out more than anything.
by Sactown_Loyalty19 on Aug 11, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Picked PP for D-ROY
but it’s waaaaay early.
I have to agree with the depth chart you’ve got going. I would like to see Kristick stick though. What are the odds we carry 5 ILB?
Kaep may become our Staubach, but Alex is our Craig Morton...
I pick pp and von miller as the most likely to bust.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 11, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
i would love nothing more
than for PP to bust and make our selection of Aldon look even better.
Ahmad Brooks
I’m hoping he can pile up at least 8 sacks. Perhaps Aldon Smith can match 8 as well. I wouldn’t rull out Willis getting 8 sacks this season either. That would be 24 sacks, I think I’d take that any day of the year. Obviously it’s wishful thinking, but I don’t think it’s impossible.
As for DRotY, Casey Matthews, Philadelphia.
by Andrew Davidson on Aug 11, 2011 10:31 AM PDT reply actions
I think everybody's sack totals are gonna go up this year
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Aug 11, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
well if we do our thing on offense
then we’ll hopefully be ahead and force more passing situations…like they did us last year.
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Aug 11, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
What is this...aggressive, you speak of?
You mean we don’t run 3 straight HB Dives to nurse our 1 point lead? What about the HB Blast over LG? Won’t someone think of the running backs?!
Kaep may become our Staubach, but Alex is our Craig Morton...
DROY will prob be someone not on the list...
Cameron Jordan or someone like that.
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I’m going with Dareus. An average run defense will translate to mounds of success for the Bills defense.
I will no longer call the player Craptree, Glasstree or Fuzzy Badfeet are options though....
It could wind up being someone completely out of the 1st-2nd rounds too.
Who knows for sure…. will be fun keeping track though.
Let’s all hope it winds up being Cully!
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I would rofl
If Kaep started we could’ve had two ROTY.
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A whopping 18 tackles for Rowe? Is that sarcasm or a typo?
by Sactown_Loyalty19 on Aug 11, 2011 10:41 AM PDT reply actions
Fixed meant sacks
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 11, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
I saw aldon Smith at practice on Monday
and he was standing near David Akers and I was amazed that even though he is much taller than Akers his arms reached down farther.
by Thor W on Aug 11, 2011 10:45 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Either Patrick Peterson or Aldon for DROY
I’ll lean towards Peterson because he’s more NFL-ready. Smith should still have 6-8 sacks this year.
seems overly optimistic
Right now Aldon Smith is third on the Depth Chart behind Harelson and Brooks. Brooks has been “knicked” (hamstring?) lately so Smith moved up to the 1st team. But Smith is still trying to figure out the Outside Linebacker position. The Niners said from the beginning that he’ll probably be used initially as a pass rush specialist/situational pass rusher. I could see him starting later in the season. But DRoY is a stretch for a part time starter learning a new position.
Brooks is “talented” but seems to get his sacks in bunches against lesser opponents (which is fine…pouncing on weaker opponents is what you’re supposed to do) but he disappears against better opponents. Like not even a peep of activity/pressure.
The coaches must really see something in Harelson. Because since his break out 8 sack season, he’s been pretty quiet. But coaches like their veterans and Harelson has the most experience at the position.
by allforfunnplay on Aug 11, 2011 11:23 AM PDT reply actions
All reports from the "Matts" are that Aldon will be the starting OLB. Depth charts mean nothing right now. He wasn't drafted 7th overall to be a specialist.
by Sactown_Loyalty19 on Aug 11, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
That was my point
He may have his struggles as a three down back, but when Smith moves over to end on certain situations that is going to cause a lot of match up problems against opposing offensive tackles; he is too quick and can get around the end.
Fangio is working on dropping back into coverage with Smith a lot during training camp and he has 4 preseason games to get a feel for the speed of the NFL. The same questions were raised in regards to Brian Orakpo last season, and he finished with 10+ sacks
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 11, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes. Plus, the only way for Aldon to get comfortable "standing up" is by actually doing it during the games.
No way he sits unless it’s for a breather.
AS for DROY, I think that’s debatable but I think Aldon is definitely among those who names who will be mentioned. Peterson will be tough unless he gets a lot of INTs which I doubt.
by Sactown_Loyalty19 on Aug 11, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
when he moves to a down end position
it will most likely be (as I said in my initial post) as a pass rush specialist during passing situations in nickel and dime defenses with 4 down linemen.
I’d love for Aldon to become the next Orakpo. Certainly it’s possible but given what we know of Aldon Smith it’s far more likely that he’ll be a situation player that transitions into a starter vs. an immediate high performing starter. Your using a skewed sampling/example (one of the lesser probable exceptions) to back up your rosy optimistic hopes for Aldon Smith’s rookie performance.
by allforfunnplay on Aug 11, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
The "Matts" have said he's doing well, not that he will start right away
The rookie, Smith, has been the most impressive of the three outside linebackers. He’ll clearly have a huge role on the defense. At the very least, Smith will be on the field in pass-rush situations. More than likely, he’ll work his way into the starting lineup on the right side very soon. – Maiocco
Ahmad Brooks’ undisclosed injury has allowed Smith to practice with the first-team defense and he’s taken advantage of those repetitions. Smith has been particularly impressive in pass rush drills. Most young pass rushers try to out-quick their offensive tackle opponent by going to the outside, and in doing so they are easily pushed wide of the play. Smith, however, has a wicked inside move in which he uses his long powerful arms like battle axes to club away the offensive tackle’s hands. Smith is far more powerful than most rookies, much less those enter the NFL as underclassmen. He’s working on his flexibility and on playing in space, which he must do as an outside linebacker. However, his long arms, which are such an asset in rushing the passer also help him coverage because they make him such a tall obstacle. In that way he batted down a Colin Kaepernick pass in practice on Friday. – Barrows
The latest postings have Kaepernick as the “most NFL ready” rookie the Niners have.
by allforfunnplay on Aug 11, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Incorrect....
Just yesterday MM retweeted a question asking what the odds are of Smith being a starter by mid-season. His reponse: I’d be surprised if he’s not a starter week 1.
As was said above, you do not get drafted #7 overall and work as a specialist or sit on the bench unless you’re a QB.
by 9thevolution on Aug 11, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
i stand corrected re: maiocco
i don’t pay attention to twitter.
we’ll see. i don’t subscribe to the need to play 1st rounders. you play your best players (which I believe is what Harbaugh has been saying). We’ll see if Aldon Smith starts in the base Defense at the beginning of the year. I suspect not but that he will move into a starting spot quickly and that he’ll see lots of snaps as a pass rush specialist.
by allforfunnplay on Aug 11, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think it's necessary to start 1st rounders if you're picking at the bottom of the round
Aldon is more talented than any guy we have right now, so even if he is lacking in experience, he’s still going to be on the field for 3 downs; minus the occassional breather.
by 9thevolution on Aug 11, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
he's presumably better at pass rushing
but in the base defense he has to be able to shut down the run and cover. so if Smith is better at pass rushing then you playing him on passing downs. But if he lacks in other areas, you play personnel that can better play the run and cover the pass….maybe that’s Harelson and Brooks?
by allforfunnplay on Aug 11, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Neither of those guys are particularly good at either....
Harrelson has never been particularly good at anything and Brooks has one year experience at OLB with primarily pass rushing specialist duties. If we had retained Lawson, I could easily see him playing on base downs, but I think the coaches will scheme to keep Smith on the field at all times.
by 9thevolution on Aug 11, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
maybe
but there are techniques to playing the run which are different than pass rushing.
one of the earlier drills in camp that was reported on was having Smith line up over a blocking sled drive block into the sled, disengage while keeping your shoulders square (parallel) to the line of scrimmage. when pass rushing you turn your shoulders (perpendicular) to the line of scrimmage to knife by the blocker and get to the QB. But if you turn your shoulders while reading a blocking and containing a run, you get easily blocked out of your gap. In that drill it was Harelson that showed Smith how to do it. To my knowledge, the only problem I’ve seen with Harelson in the run game is that he can be out run on the perimeter by speed backs…but that’s about it.
by allforfunnplay on Aug 11, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree
Aldon doesn’t play the run well enuf to start every down just yet. At the moment, he’s good enough to rush the passer on passing downs…still has to learn to cover so he’s pretty much one dimensional right now. Him and Ahmad Brooks are our best pass rushing backers. I expect to see Aldon on the line and brooks rushing w/ harralson used in covg in most passing situations.
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Aug 11, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
not at top either anymore
with the pay scale in place you can let a guy develop longer because half of the cap isn’t paying for an unknown anymore.
Most people are saying 6-8 sacks, and while that seems logical
Aldon is going to be put in a position to rush the passer at an alarmingly high rate; due to this, I would consider anywhere from 7-12 (mostly more in the middle), to be very attainable.
Fangio is going to use him primarily as a pass rusher, and with the number of attempts he is going to receive at rushing the passer, with his speed and athleticism, I’m looking at around 10-11 sacks to be more exact.
Also, Fangio will be applying more pressure from up the middle in the past, this could very well leave holes on the outside, for the 9er outside rushers to have a bit better success than we have seen in the past. These are all the reasons why I think that 10-11 sacks for Aldon, while pretty/relatively high, will/can very plausiblely be acheived.
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by chicagobullies on Aug 11, 2011 11:36 AM PDT reply actions
don't forget about Willis
You have a guy that can pick up a lot of slack so Fangio can gamble more with the blitzes. If I am an OC and I see more Willis blitzes, I do everything I can to stop this monster. I would let Smith come blind than Willis. P-52 will blow you up, strip the ball, and has a shorter distance to the ball carrier. I think Aldon will do well with Justin Smith in front of him and Willis watching over him. Plus that speed and long arms will take some time to get used to so see him get an early sack or two especially early in the season.
by mcwagner on Aug 11, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is huge
and a lot of people don’t get it. When you have an elite 3-4 defensive end like SF has in Smith, it opens up crazy lanes for pass rushers on the outside. Smith being able to draw a double team will enable Aldon and Willis to go up against tight ends in passing downs. First, this limits the tight ends ability to get involved in the passing game. Secondly, it will be extremely difficult for the tight end or fullback to match up athletically with the two.
If you disguise the blitz package, like I expect Fangio to do; the confusion is going to lead to a few non contested sacks for each players
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 11, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I know
I feel like its ridiculous to throw a high number out there like that but my gut honestly thinks he can hit double digits w/ a couple games still left in the season.
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Aug 11, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Gibson wasn't cut in the preseason.
He made the team. He got cut during the season so the Steelers could bring up a DT, mostly because their team is stocked with top flight OLBs. They hoped he’d clear waivers so they could stash him on their practice squad but we nabbed him (probably before other teams as our priority was right near the top at the time, given how bad we site decorumed last year).
This ^
Man I really wish we could keep all these guys, they all look good. Gibson who i hope makes the team might not make the cut. Pre season will be very fun, a lot of postitions worth watching.
Tyler Sash
He’s already getting 1st team reps in camp. The guy is a ballhawk! Just seems to have a knack for being around the ball.
Back on board. Now time to trade Mays for Clausen
aldon smith will be rookie of the year.
von miller and pp are the most likely to bust. I hope aldon smith starts opposite to ahmad brooks. brooks has been consistent when he has played and I do not see how parly can beat out aldon at this time. and gibson is ranked number 4 on my OLB list.
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I dont think they'll bust
those guys are too talented…they can do alot of things well. Von might not have crazy numbers but he’s gonna have a decent impact..dont see him having a steep learning curve either.
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Aug 11, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m looking at that list thinking, Lawson was easily top two on it, why keep Haralson, he’s worthless.
I will no longer call the player Craptree, Glasstree or Fuzzy Badfeet are options though....
The optimism
is scaring me. I’d be happy if Aldon Smith reaches 7 sacks, but, I’m interested to see how he works in coverage and how well he can understand Fangio’s schemes — which he seems to be moderately struggling to grasp.
most likely he will not be in coverage that much
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 11, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
right
let him rush all season…work on the coverage aspect in practice and the offseason. At least be gradual with it.
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Aug 11, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoever gets the most sacks
will win…
I'm in business of giving the business and business is booming!
nailed it
Yoshi rite on the money. He just needs to allow himself to b coached up he’s got the talent and the size
by ndsf1994 on Aug 11, 2011 2:27 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
JJ Watt
Having M. Williams on the same line might help increase his chances
by Huey49ers4life on Aug 11, 2011 5:42 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Gibson didn’t make it out of camp. It is surprising that a player selected that high in the draft fails to make the 53 man roster.
Gibson actually did make the initial 53 man roster out of camp. However, we had a ton of DE injuries at the beginning of the year and we had to activate a DE off the PS and we gambled with Gibson. Unfortunately, we lost.
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
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