Los Angeles NFL Stadium: 49ers Dumped In The Rumor Mill
by David Fucillo on Aug 11, 2011 12:00 PM PDT
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PrintEarlier this week, the Los Angeles City Council unanimously approved a financing plan to build a new $1.2 billion football stadium near the Staples Center. While they don't have a team in place, it's hard to imagine a team not making the necessary move to get into one of the biggest media markets in the country.
Such a possibility gets the rumors and analysis flowing, and naturally the 49ers have been included in the mix of teams that have sufficient stadium issues that they could consider moving. This isn't to say the 49ers are a favorite among this group, or that it isn't more than idle speculation, but it's still worth noting.
The author of the ESPNLA post linked above, Arash Markazi, discussed the 49ers lease and there potential plans with the Raiders in his outlook:
Outlook: It's unlikely the 49ers would leave San Francisco and their stadium proposal has picked up steam since the end of the lockout. The team has a website devoted to the new stadium with pictures and videos and recently unveiled a scale model during a Santa Clara news conference. York seems to think the team will have the financing in place to start construction in 2013; whether that will include a partnership with the Raiders remains a lingering question.
The 49ers are at least in a better position than the Raiders who have no real stadium plan in place. The 49ers acknowledged some discussions with the Raiders about a new stadium, but nothing concrete has developed to date. Al Davis seems intent to get a stadium in Oakland, while the 49ers have a plan already in place for Santa Clara.
Just out of curiosity, for those of you that attend 49ers games, whether it be individual or season tickets, how does the potential of an Oakland stadium sit with you compared to Santa Clara? For argument's sake, let's just assume the two teams came to an agreement on a deal, got $300 million from the NFL to help finance the stadium, and were ready to make a go of it. Would Oakland vs. Santa Clara be any sort of deal-breaker for you as far as whether you'd attend games? Or does it matter?
One thing I find myself curious about is how Silicon Valley sponsorship money could be impacted if the team ended up in Oakland instead of Santa Clara. One of the reasons the A's have looked into San Jose for a new stadium is the tech money. If the 49ers are going to finance a stadium on their own, I've got to think they'll need to tap into the Silicon Valley money.
In the meantime, here is some video I shot on Tuesday night at the Pasta Bowl. It is the scale model of the stadium and some artist renderings.
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I think Jed York would dump San Fran for LA, Why? MONEY
because the L.A. market is huge.
niners would sadly be much more profitable in L.A. than in santa clara and they do own the niners to make money.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 11, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
And their fanbase is crappy
largest fair weather fanbase in the entire world.
That would be the most moronic move in history of this franchise.
I am sure Jed has his sights still set on Santa Clara.
The only bad thing that could happen there is having to share with the Raiders.
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and then there would be no more 49ers....
i would no longer watch football and i would die a little inside, but the fanbase would revolt like it was the end of the world…or i would like to think so
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I would still watch... but I wouldn't be happy. Not one bit.
I could not, as a fan, betray the players. It would not be their fault. And I am a fan of the team, not the ownership.
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you, my good sir
make a damn good point…i agree with you …
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Confusing the Yorks
Jed grew up as a Niners fan and wants to spend the money his parents are cheap.
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
There's a lot of money in the bay area too
And it would take a while to rebuild a fanbase in southern california
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
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by SportsChicken on Aug 11, 2011 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Please no don't share with the Raiders I would prefer them moving down to LA
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Well I live in LA so its not that irrational
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
No one really lives in LA. I’m not sure LA even exists. I’m sure you’re from some other city near this mythical place.
see I'm here
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"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Manraj… That’s a dumpster. I would give you some cash, but you’d probably spend it on booze
by mcwagner on Aug 11, 2011 1:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
its a dumpster in LA though
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
close very close
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
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"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Ha!
I knew you weren’t from LA. It doesn’t exist.
see
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Did you read my above comment?
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Raiders to LA?
There’s a TON of people against this idea right now. It would only multiply the number of thugs that embrace them now, the same kind of dudes that make it unsafe to go to a Dodgers game. It’s gotta be the Jags.
by Lott'sMissingPinky on Aug 11, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
If the Raiders came here to LA.
There would be a Bryan Stow incident 8 times a year.
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Ahh, you know I want to agree with that
But I don’t think I can.
It really all boils down to the location and the ownership.
McCourt is scum and has let the Dodgers’ image become tarnished.
If the team moved to an area like Irvine (where is the stadium being built?) and Al Davis got his [site decorum] together, I’m sure the Raiders could attract decent fans in LA.
Look at the Angels, they’re in Orange County, sell a lot of tickets, and have a “calm” fanbase.
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by SportsChicken on Aug 11, 2011 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
The stadium is planned for near Staples Center
which is in downtown.
Kaep may become our Staubach, but Alex is our Craig Morton...
Thankfully the author of that post noted that a 49ers move was unlikely...
Too bad he didn’t say something like
“the 49ers have done a ton of work on their own stadium project both prior to and now after the end of the lockout, including making key hires within the organization…”etc. — because that would’ve been more accurate.
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niners keep saying how they already have sold almost $150,000,000.000 in luxury Suite sales. That number does not include the individual seat sales. santa clara also has spent alot of money from my understanding on the stadium. I just do not see the niners moving away, only way is if the nfl makes them move. A more likely thing that the nfl will do is make the niners take in the raiders.
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SF, Silicon Valley and NorCal region is general is no market to sneeze at
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Al Davis would sue the NFL so fast...
If the Raiders move in, it will be because Al wants to.
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by SportsChicken on Aug 11, 2011 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
raiders will need someplace to play. I do not see them building their own stadium on their own, and their lease is coming due shortly.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 12, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I think the Raiders and Al Davis
should move to Alaska and rename the raiders to the Alaskan Polars
by Aazoba Yuzuki on Aug 11, 2011 12:16 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
LA couldn't keep a football team before, what makes anyone think they could now?
The 49ers certainly have nothing to gain from a move to LA. They make plenty of money now, and they don’t even have to win.
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The Rams and Raiders left because no new stadium.
No one was willing to build them either team a new stadium so they both left. Now there is money down here. I still don’t want any team down here.
Regrets not picking the car over Debbie.
I would say that they can keep a football team
Just give these guys another season of USC football sucking and they’ll be desperate for another football team.
Like I said above though, it’s all about the image.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
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by SportsChicken on Aug 11, 2011 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
the jags could move to LA
its either them or the bills or the raiders.
jags would make the most sense
then raiders, then maybe bill. Jags are still a young franchise, easier to move.
Los Angeles 49ers?
No thank you. I live in the midwest so the move wouldn’t really change anything with me as far as attending games. I plan on making a trip to the bay area in the next year or two to take my son to his first 49ers game and it would be my first 49ers home game. I can tell you I would much rather travel to SF than LA. Who knows…I may take him to his first 49ers game in Arizona since I have a friend there of St Louis since it’s not too far from Des Moines.
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i feel the same
i live in Maine so home game locations dont really bother me much, but if the team is in Oakland or LA i would be much less likely to fly out for a home game. we have plans to go out when the new stadium is done but i don’t see it happening if they move to one of those two places.
Speaking as a very selfish Niners fan living in LA
I wouldn’t mind this at all! =P
(But really, 49ers belong in SF and nowhere else.)
by BruinMW on Aug 11, 2011 12:40 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Nowhere else?
I actually prefer Santa Clara. 10 minutes from my office.
Hunter’s point is a dump.
No way the 49ers move to LA
There are other teams out there that need a change of scenery. Jacksonville, Minnesota and Buffalo come to mind first.
You have to remember that our 49ers have sold out every game since, what 1980? No reason for the York’s to move there. Santa Clara it is
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 11, 2011 12:47 PM PDT reply actions
Minnesota has their own plans to build a new dome in Minny.
Jax is prob the front runner. Them or the Raiders.
Raiders already have a following. And the only reason Al Davis brought the team back to Oakland was because L.A. would not approve a proposal for a new stadium.
Now that it is in place, I could see Al Davis wanting to go back. Big time money involved there for him.
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Excellent Point
Why would any business owner abondon an established and loyal customer base
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by bryceclan on Aug 11, 2011 1:45 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
money
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
They sell out every year in NoCal
Something a SoCal football team has problems doing. The Chargers are facing blackouts for this very reason.
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by bryceclan on Aug 11, 2011 2:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
thats the only reason though
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
I hate that
I’ve been there
The stadium is OK (old but ok), it’s easy to find parking, it’s not easy to get in and out of the stadium, the fans are nice, and they have a really good team.
Something is missing though…?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
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by SportsChicken on Aug 11, 2011 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
They sell out every year in NoCal
Something a SoCal football team has problems doing. The Chargers are facing blackouts for this very reason.
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by bryceclan on Aug 11, 2011 2:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
They sell out every year in NoCal
Something a SoCal football team has problems doing. The Chargers are facing blackouts for this very reason.
The greatest coaches can take raw, natural talent and mold it into a legend!
by bryceclan on Aug 11, 2011 2:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
They sell out every year in NoCal
Something a SoCal football team has problems doing. The Chargers are facing blackouts for this very reason.
The greatest coaches can take raw, natural talent and mold it into a legend!
by bryceclan on Aug 11, 2011 2:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
They sell out every year in NoCal
Something a SoCal football team has problems doing. The Chargers are facing blackouts for this very reason.
The greatest coaches can take raw, natural talent and mold it into a legend!
by bryceclan on Aug 11, 2011 2:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Woah, sorry for the multiple posts my phone freaked out
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I would rather not see the Rams move back to LA because I’m too selfish. Having them in St. Louis guarantees me at least one close 49ers game a year to go to. I would love to see the old yellow and blue uniforms back though.
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by Haggardninja on Aug 11, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
The 49ers are going to get their stadium in Santa Clara
A more interesting question might be, what benefits the 49ers more, having a shared tenant to split costs, or the Raiders moving back to LA ( if say, Davis dies ), and the 49ers being the only team in the market again.
The latter would probably not help short term.
by whistlingmountain on Aug 11, 2011 12:55 PM PDT reply actions
I don't want to have anything to do Al Davis
even though NE seems to disagree.
Moving to LA?
Look, I’m as die-hard a Niners fan as they come. Grew up north of SF and now live in LA. Moving the team to LA would allow me to see a ton more games, but I simply can’t condone even the NOTION of them coming to LA for one simple reason: Can you imagine their team logo, instead of that glorious SF, sporting an LA? SF is on the team helmets! Keep the Niners in SF and let’s have no more talk of them moving!
by Lott'sMissingPinky on Aug 11, 2011 1:05 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
My guess would be a sad attempt at a logo change like that horrible 49ers logo they brought up before.
Nice username, by the way!
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by Haggardninja on Aug 11, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
you mean this
Where is the unrec button?
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Yeah
That made me throw up in my mouth a little.
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by Haggardninja on Aug 11, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Couldn't they just demolish and rebuild where it currently is?
Or do they not really own the land or something? Why do they have to move anyways?
you can't
build a stadium where one already is, you can only modify it… Would cost nearly as much money that way and they’d get nearly no help to pay for it…
Besides, demolishing the current grounds would leave them nowhere to play for 3 years while the grounds were being rebuilt…
For 3 years?
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by SportsChicken on Aug 11, 2011 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Chargers are the logical choice.
They already have a lot of fans in the OC area. I don’t think we need any team here in LA, but if we did get one I rather it be any team other than the two we had before. No Rams and definately no Raiders.
Regrets not picking the car over Debbie.
I would hate to see the chargers here.
The media has already been trying increase the fanbase here. If anything, I would prefer the Rams back so I could see the Niners play once a year…
by Chefantone on Aug 11, 2011 2:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
San Francisco or Santa Clara better represents our fanbase
The fans associated with Oakland or LA are definitely what embodies The Faithful.
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by bryceclan on Aug 11, 2011 1:42 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I live in LA and would hate it if they 'niners moved here
they’re the FORTY-NINERS… the whole identify of the team is northern california… san francisco… miner-forty-niners… can’t mess with that identity. And I live in hope that one day I get to return to my beloved homeland otherwise known as San Francisco, and if I was returning to a city without my ‘niners, it’d probably take ten years off my life. What would be the point of saving for a happy retirement if I can’t blow some of that money on ‘niner season tickets? I guess I’d still have the Giants.
Besides, the Jags are the team moving to LA. I have it on good authority. They never should have opened a franchise in Jacksonville, there’s no real money there even in a good year for the team. Makes much more sense to move that franchise to LA.
49er fan from NY
I’m from NY and I think the 49ers need to stay in northern California like somone else said..its the whole teams identity…even the logo! 49ers and the Raiders are total opposites..I would even hate to see them share a stadium..the thought is just F-ed up! Jed…keep the 49ers…the 49ers!!
49ers moving to NorCal
would end up with a nonsensical team mascot, like the “Lakers” being in LA, or “The Jazz” being in freakin Utah.
On my own scorecard
LA “Lakers” is worse than the Utah “Jazz”
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The L.A. "Giant Water-Sucking Canal?"
Alaska is a state, dammit! Can I get a Niner game on TV up here?
Canal is usually sucked empty when I've driven by it.
But an appropriate name.
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there building a stadium because al davis is gonna pass on in a few years
and new oakland ownership will move to L.A real quick.
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