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49ers Alex Smith, Colin Kaepernick Simply Weren't Ready For Saints Blitzing

It was a mostly unimpressive 2011 debut for the San Francisco 49ers, and that wasn't entirely unexpected. We know that what was going to see the field yesterday was going to be something not entirely unlike a professional football team, but also not quite there. Alex Smith couldn't get anything going for his seven passes, and Colin Kaepernick showed poise early on, but struggled late. The offensive line was, in so many words, atrocious. To put it quite simply, there weren't ready for the blitzes that Greg Williams and the New Orleans Saints sent their way.

Alex Smith was 2-for-7 and had a whopping ten yards. His first completion was a beautiful pass to Braylon Edwards, a slant route if I recall correctly. His first pass to Edwards was a little ... less beautiful. It was behind Edwards by far, and one of the reasons Smith didn't inspire much confidence. He also had one to Vernon Davis that landed way short of Davis, and prompted the Pro Bowl tight end to throw his hands up in the air, asking Smith what the deal was with that pass.

But aside from those two (and an overthrow to Delanie Walker in which some serious wires were seriously crossed), what can we tell about Smith? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. It wasn't even a thing where Smith dropped back and could have avoided the sack, it was a play where Joe Staley was immediately put on his butt and Smith was quick to follow. There was another just like it, where Vernon Davis didn't pick up the correct rusher. It wasn't pretty.

A lot of it was the same for Colin Kaepernick. The rookie came in and showed some poise, and he impressed me with his game readiness. However, he did a lot of things bad as well. The dropback wasn't there, and his accuracy was very, very hot and cold.  With an emphasis on cold. He was uncomfortable back there, and it wasn't just rookie jitters.

All of this was because of the enormous pressure the Saints put on the 49ers. Some have said that it's kind of a dirty tactic - all the blitzes that New Orleans dialed up. I don't necessarily agree to any extent that would qualify as "outrage", but it definitely seemed excessive. They didn't need t do that to evaluate their blitz packages. Even Alex Smith noted as much:

Obviously, they were pressuring us quite a bit, if anyone could not see that on the TV, but heavy, heavy pressure. First preseason game, you usually don't expect to see that kind of pressure, but they brought it. It will be good film for us to watch and learn from.

So what do you think, was it excessive .. dirty, even? There was very little game-planning going on, and in the end, it's easier to run at a guy and hit him than it is to prepare for a specific skillset of pass-rush moves. The offensive line will often look worse in this scenario.

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Bucs 25, Chiefs 0

I guess the chiefs will go 0-16 this season. I don’t take much stock on preseason games after last year.

by Ni9er on Aug 13, 2011 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I almost wonder by our lack of response....

Did Harbaugh ask for this? Did he feel the team needed a rude awakening? I’m not sure that it’s possible to talk to the Saints about it, but maybe he just saw what was happening and let it go. Maybe leaving Staley in there and some other moves were designed to let us get our ass kicked, get a reality check and then get some new blood in there like Goodwin.

Only semi positive thing I can think of.

by mrg80 on Aug 13, 2011 6:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Maybe Harbaugh thought

…that the Saints would cool their jets once the first team defense was off the field. Or maybe he didn’t want tip his hand as far as offensive strategy in the preseason. I agree that SOME protection adjustments should’ve been made (and maybe they were and the 49ers just didn’t execute them).

by Joe Como on Aug 13, 2011 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes because that's a good idea

exposing your QBs to charging 250-300lb men every down

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by Viliphied on Aug 13, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think

The Saints were bringing 11 guys every play. A lot of the pressure they got happened because they won their 1-on-1 battles with our linemen. Not much the coach can do about that then to get better players in there.

by Joe Como on Aug 13, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

O lline

This is the worst offensive line in the NFL.

by ninercat on Aug 13, 2011 6:17 AM PDT reply actions  

The return of the LOLine

Paper champs on the O Line, probably even Madden dominant. Give it a few weeks and see if you’re still so down on them

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by TryAndCatchVD on Aug 13, 2011 7:58 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Your right ,I have to agree worst Oline in the NFL.

by bmcrae83@yahoo.com on Aug 13, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its the NFL

Can’t blame the saints, if the niners couldn’t stop the blitz why would gregg williams stop calling them. I truly believe our o line is one of the worst in the league it has been for the last 5 years, and until that gets fixed Peyton Manning wouldn’t even have success behind this line. All i know is that if i see Anthony Davis commit another false start and still get beat to allow a sack/fumble remember first round pick, or see Colin K or Armadillo skin smith get sacked three times in a row i will throw up even if its preseason

by yearofthearmadillo on Aug 13, 2011 6:43 AM PDT reply actions  

So glad for preseason

Work out some of these *mistakes

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by chriscream on Aug 13, 2011 6:48 AM PDT reply actions  

No Excuses

Weren’t ready for the blitz? Really?

Really?

It’s a blitz, you have to be ready for it. On any given down.

It’s a new coach, new system, so what? It’s not the first time a team has had a new coach or a new system in the NFL, you still have to pick up the blitz, you still have to get the ball to the recievers.

It’s only a preseason game, so what? Yea, we don’t want to repeat last year winning all our preseason games and suck all season. But you don’t want to waste all those chances to improve the offense with your quarterback eating turf the whole game.

The team I saw last night was not good enough even with all the lame excuses…

It's about having the kind of faith that makes all the "what if's" irrelevant - Jim Harbaugh 2011

Frank Gore has earned his place among the great running backs of the NFL - Pat Willie on NN

by Pat Willie on Aug 13, 2011 7:05 AM PDT reply actions  

without a professional timeline

get it?

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Aug 13, 2011 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Last night I saw a quality veteran team (The Saints) with their coaching staffs...

…and systems returning intact VS a young team with mostly new coaches, new systems, having had no OTAs and player-run mini-camps, and having had only 8 days with the full team practicing together (Thursday, August 4 was the first day the entire team could practice together, yesterday was Friday, August 12).

Although I didn’t expect NO to dial up the pressure nearly to the extent that they did, I did expect an outcome very similar to what actually occurred. Last season proved conclusively that pre-season results don’t mean squat (as if last season was needed to prove that).

I hoping that last night proves to be a good learning experience…

After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.

by OldJock on Aug 13, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another lame excuse

Chilo and Snyder were getting pushed around like rag dolls.

The offensive line was selling round trip tickets to the quarterback.

And Alex, who should know what to do in these situations by now, was getting rattled early and often.

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by Pat Willie on Aug 13, 2011 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

did you see the news

OLines all over the league were bad. Explain that?

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Aug 13, 2011 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

wow pat

okay pat your telling me that if you where in Alex shoes after 6 days of practice you could have won that game please your a tool. You must not have watched the game Gregg Williams was acting like it was the playoffs while i think it was good thing that the 49ers lost and i really hope they lose all but the last preseason game and two that the Saints did blitz so much that will help them out in the long run like in a game that matters not one that you play like a live practice.

by Jeremy Cheatham on Aug 13, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Excuses are over

Alex has been playing quarterback in the NFL for 5 years played in over 50 games. He’s seen blitz after blitz and still gets rattled.

I don’t care if the 49ers lost a preseason game, I want to see Alex do the position justice.

And if I was quarterback we certainly would have won, I don’t even need to practice. I see a blitz coming and I start crushing some Linebacker skulls.

Thats why I said in my above post that after six days of practice I would have won that game if I were in Alex’s shoes.

It's about having the kind of faith that makes all the "what if's" irrelevant - Jim Harbaugh 2011

Frank Gore has earned his place among the great running backs of the NFL - Pat Willie on NN

by Pat Willie on Aug 13, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

No reason for personal attacks and name calling . Yu guys need to chill out

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by Widowwolf on Aug 13, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

If this oline simple just wasn’t ready for the bliz, that’s on their oline coaches, if that’s the case fire them. I seriously doubt it, I’ve seen this song and dance routine before, seen this for aleast the last 5 + years.This Oline simple sucks, Stanley doesn’t care about being a good NFL linemen, he’d rather be a talk show hoste and a comedian. He should just leave the NFL and see if he can get a show of his and continue his self promotion attics.

by bmcrae83@yahoo.com on Aug 13, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Syder looked bad under center

I don’t recall a single clean snap

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Aug 13, 2011 7:06 AM PDT reply actions  

The entire offensive line looked bad in general, but I'll admit after a few drives it was hard to tell

who was sucking anymore, they were just too terrible as a unit

I’m really worried, are they slow out of the snap? Are they too high? Are they too weak? Why are they getting beaten so badly on so many plays.

Maybe most importantly, does the 49er defensive line NOT do this to the 49ers offensive line during practice? If not, why, it happens in EVERY game.

by whistlingmountain on Aug 13, 2011 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

its only the first preseason game

If in game 3 these problems are happening then you should worry

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Aug 13, 2011 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've heard this many times in the last 12 hours but

It’s not like these were new linemen, they’re all guys that were on the team last year. This is what happened to them last year. and this isn’t scheming, this is them against a guy across from them, getting pushed back on running plays.. over and over…

That’s why I’m saying, why is this still happening? I’m not worried as much about the scheming, just their complete inability to win 1v1 match-ups, basic blocking drills. I don’t see how that gets fixed in 2 weeks or 8. If it could be, why wasn’t it fixed last year with the same offensive line coach?

by whistlingmountain on Aug 13, 2011 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just don't think they are at game speed yet

and I really don’t think they were mentally ready for that kind of pressure. I’m sure they are learning new things too.

Again, almost ALL the Olines were bad according to NFLN this morning. That should tell you something. Also, Gore got 5 yards a carry.

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Aug 13, 2011 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's amazing how Gore gets his positive yardage

while everyone notes the horrible line play. Then he leaves & Boobie starts dancing again..smh

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 13, 2011 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah Boobie danced a bit

but he has improved at least following his blockers now

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Aug 13, 2011 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

He dances because he lacks the instinct and vision

To play RB at this level.

Gore, Hunter, and even Xavier Omon all managed more than 4 YPC.

Dixon couldn’t even hit 2.5.

by Ougadas on Aug 13, 2011 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

ouch

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Aug 13, 2011 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Granted the number of attempts is small

But it backs up what you can see on gameday.

Dixon doesn’t see the running lanes as they are about to open so he starts dancing, and by the time he sees one open and commits to it the lane is already closing because he’s lost his speed.

by Ougadas on Aug 13, 2011 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

then he needs to forget about CBA bringing back bandana's

and start looking at his up-front blocking for holes..

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 13, 2011 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Still don't understand why any team would spend a draft pick on a generic running back

there are 50 generic running backs in UDFA every year. At least it was only a 6th rounder, but it probably prevented the 49ers from having a much better 2nd back who is now in Tampa Bay.

Heck I like Hunter and I think taking him in the 4th round is too early.

by whistlingmountain on Aug 13, 2011 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know man.

A statistical study of draft history with regards to RBs showed the following.

1. If you must have a 5 year starter at RB, your best chance is in picks 1-13 (62%) After that it drops to well below 30%.

2. The percentage of total starts at RB in the NFL is dominated by two groups, those picked in the first 13 picks and UDFAs with 40% combined and the UDFAs coming out ahead. This trend is growing.

by Ougadas on Aug 13, 2011 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

that's what I'm saying

That unless the running back has something extremely special about them, don’t draft them. You can get guys in UDFA.

by whistlingmountain on Aug 13, 2011 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

It should be Gore, Hunter and Omon. Dixon on the PS. He is running around in circles like spilled Coffee.

by wellnesscoach on Aug 13, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think that Dixon is PS elgible...

After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.

by OldJock on Aug 13, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not eligible for PS as he has 1 full year under contract on main squad

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by Widowwolf on Aug 13, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes all offensive lines, and to a lesser degree, all offenses have been poort

Except New England, which was a machine.

But it’s like a few years ago when the 49ers offense was 32nd. Young had the great quote, “Yeah they were 32nd, but if there were 60 teams, they would have been 60th, they were that much worse than every other team”

4 series, no first downs, no completions, several sacks.. It was unacceptable even for someone like me who EXPECTED a “bad” output.

I’m leading the low expectations parade, I think they’re going to be bad for the first quarter of the season, but if the offensive linemen have come back unable to win 1v1 match-ups against back-ups of New Orleans in the 2nd quarter.. jeez, I mean. I had to take a deep breath at that point, I can’t imagine how the eternal optimists were reacting.

by whistlingmountain on Aug 13, 2011 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

As an optimist..

…I can say that I was pretty disgusted too. It’s never fun to watch your team, and the OLine in particular, get pancaked like that.

But, I took solace from the fact that:

1) It was a preseason game.
2) There hasn’t been enough time for the offensive scheme changes to bear fruit.
3) Our failures on offense will allow the coaches to make better decisions as to who starts and who sits… and who gets cut
4) The defense, overall, played pretty well.
5) The Saints exposed our lack of prepardness for heavy blitzing. That’s something that is best-learned in the preseason rather than the regular season.
6) CK got to play a lot. There are those who believe that sitting is best for a young QB. I believe that playing is the best way for a young QB to learn. Never the two shall meet!

Overall, very disappointed by this one game. But not ready to pour gasoline on the Lazy-Boy and take a nap just yet.

by Joe Como on Aug 13, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's a completely new offensive scheme

they’ve been studying their protection packages for like 2 weeks. You don’t just block the guy in front of you, if you do that, you’re probably going to leave a guy unblocked. It’s basically what happened on the play VD screwed up on. The OLine, more than any other position group, needs to know exactly what everyone else on the OL is doing. It’s easily up there with QB as the most mentally challenging position to play, and the one that benefits the most by far from practicing over and over again with the same unit.

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by Viliphied on Aug 13, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

True

But when you know what man you are supposed to block, you have to — well, you know — block him.

There is a difference between scheme failure and just getting your rear end handed to you on a 1 v 1 matchup.

by Ougadas on Aug 13, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, some of the 1 on 1s (especially Snyder) were terrible

but a good portion of it was just not knowing who to block

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by Viliphied on Aug 13, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

this

is was mostly Snyder who was abused 1 v 1 and Staley and Davis a little bit. They will learn how to pick up the blitz and when they do the line will be that much better.

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by manraj7 on Aug 13, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

You must have been watching a different game

The VD miss was a scheme issue. Vernon blocked down on a double and never even saw the safety.

Davis knew who to block. He jumped backwards 2 yards before the snap preparing to block him. He still got the sack. He doesn’t know how to move his feet through contact and instead of pushing an outside rush out and around the pocket he goes straight back into the QB almost every single time.

Staley knew who to block. He just couldn’t maintain contact with the guy after the initial hand jam and couldn’t move his feet fast enough to keep the rusher from turning the corner.

These are athleticism and technique issues.

I’m neither a downer or a pollyanna, but I am concerned with the reality in front of me. Any scheme is only as good as the 1 v 1 execution. If you can’t do that then throw in the towel.

by Ougadas on Aug 13, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! read statement above.

by bmcrae83@yahoo.com on Aug 13, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

The O-Line is much better than it played yesterday

They are going to play better in the pre-season and beyond. Drew Brees was 1/4 for only 6 yards. Do you think Saints fans are demanding a change of QB after that performance?

by suffrin9erfan on Aug 13, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nobody is suggesting Smith is anywhere near as good as Brees.

The only thing some of us are hoping is that Smith has better than he has yet shown us, because of a variety of very obvious issues with the team.

Now maybe he’s not. It’s quite possible that he isn’t.

But the simple fact is that Friday’s game didn’t give us any new information on the question of “Is Smith better than he’s shown us so far?” because no QB could have looked decent under those circumstances.

by Ronaldinho on Aug 14, 2011 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Although it was disappointing to see our o-line get owned by the saints constant blitz package I come to realize that this is exactly what we needed. I rather see our flaws in the preseason than game 1 of theregular season. There are 5 weeks left for the o-line to work out the kinks.

by ninersince94 on Aug 13, 2011 7:12 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

1st team defense looked awesome

Very pleased with the coverage and front 7

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Aug 13, 2011 7:15 AM PDT reply actions  

I agree, plus the saints 1st team offense did not look too intimidating yesterday

by ninersince94 on Aug 13, 2011 7:19 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeh, but Brees had a perfect deep ball dropped that probably was a td

by mrg80 on Aug 13, 2011 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

True, If we look at the positives the run was good, Frank gore still looks like frank gore, and delanie walker (had alex no over thrown te ball) beat the saints coverage.

by ninersince94 on Aug 13, 2011 7:33 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Of course that was on Brock

And there is no danger of him starting the season.

by Ougadas on Aug 13, 2011 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

exactly

my first thought

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Aug 13, 2011 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agree

A lot of room for optimism with this defense, I think. We won’t be one of the best defenses in the NFL, but I think our pass rush will be better, which will make our pass defense as a whole better.

Now if we could just get that offense to score some points! :)

by Joe Como on Aug 13, 2011 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I especailly like seeing Whitner around the ball

He definately an upgrade over Dashon

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by Pat Willie on Aug 13, 2011 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

You mean over Mays/Smith/Lewis

he plays SS

Goldson is still going to be the starter at FS

by whistlingmountain on Aug 13, 2011 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Goldsons going to have to earn it

and the way it looked yesterday he’s gonna have to play real well

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Aug 13, 2011 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Over Williams?

I mean they all have to earn it, but he’s better than Williams.

by whistlingmountain on Aug 13, 2011 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

So unfortuate with Reggie Smith

Just want as much competition back there as they can have. Need to weed out people…. CJ Spillman looked awful to me out there.

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 13, 2011 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

hey the turk has to get somebody.

either correct your mistakes in practice & next game or exit stage left..

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 13, 2011 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

My thoughts exactly

The bubble is a ruthless place to be.

by Ougadas on Aug 13, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome might be a bit much, but they looked ok

Saints were missing #1 receiver, they stayed mostly vanilla. 49ers were missing NT, CB and S, plus I think Aldon will be the starter by week 1.

That being said, couple of blown coverages, a dropped long pass. It was very reminiscent of the last few years defense. Consistent in general, but a hard time actually getting to the QB, so big plays hang out there and they seem to leave it up to the offense to make them. If the offense drops the ball or misses the pass then they look good, if they don’t then they look bad.

“Awesome” defenses don’t face those situations very often, when there is a big play in the air, there’s a defender there. And the if they give up a big play, then they make a big play. The defense didn’t really make any big plays yesterday even though 3 or 4 were there for them. I’m hopeful that Goldson/Whitner and Aldon Smith will provide that 1 more big play per game, a big turnover, or a big sack.

by whistlingmountain on Aug 13, 2011 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

the long dropped pass was on Brock UDFA last year

we almost had a pick too

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by goatfather on Aug 13, 2011 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not arguing either point

The big plays were out there, the couple that the 49ers seem to have control of, they didn’t finish. I hope/expect them to this year.

by whistlingmountain on Aug 13, 2011 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't think they looked awesome

Greatly aided by a few drops. What I saw was a run defense that was still pretty good and Ahmad Brooks already 800% better than he was at any time last season.

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by bignerd on Aug 13, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

No Excuses....a blessing in disguise

I for one am happy that the Saints brought the heat to the Oline. It’s preseason, a measuring stick of where the team is at after 2 weeks of practicing together. It shows the heavy dose of reality of just how much work is needed by everyone on this team. We hear from reporters, the athletes & folks that have gone to open practices saying for the most part that things look good but still a work in progress. This game heavily showed “the work in progress” part. The worst thing that could have happened to the 49ers was for the Saints to show a very “vanilla defense” for AS & Co. and having a great game. That would have been a very false sense of hope and security after playing the former world champs at their home. I’m sure the majority would have been drinking the koolaid it that happend. But what happened yesterday was the reality check this team needed to assess how far they are from a finished product and just exactly how far the need to go to getting there.

p.s. Just happy no major injuries happend last night.

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 13, 2011 7:30 AM PDT reply actions  

I was happy they brought it as part of their defense

but after a full quarter of it, it made no sense to keep bringing it.

It was a basketball practice in which a 6’5 player realized he could do the same post move against the 6’0 guy over and over, so he did. And at the end of the practice. Neither were better.

by whistlingmountain on Aug 13, 2011 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well you usually don't see it

Because usually teams want to keep their own blitz packages under wraps.

But I can understand Gregg Williams wanting to see how his second and third stringers can execute a complicated zone blitz. If I was wanting to evaluate rushers I know I wouldn’t go vanilla after my first team was out.

by Ougadas on Aug 13, 2011 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I doubt that too

Much more important to see where your talent lies in the front 7 for all the guys fighting for a roster spot.

Alot of nobodies were tossing our O-line around.

by Ougadas on Aug 13, 2011 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Understood about the repetition of the Blitzes

but now our O-Line has a lot of “film” to look over on line calls on blitiz pick up. Last thing we need is for week 1 for AS to be back there and the Seahags call a blitz & have a Rocky Bernard situation happen all over again on AS.

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 13, 2011 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's not really disguised

Of course you want to play against the toughest competition available. I don’t think the Saints brought as much as people think they did. I mean yea they blitzed alot on Alex, but that’s what he’s going to see every game from every team until he and the coaches figure out how to beat it. I think the 49ers are just not very good on offense. They need alot of improvement before they can even dream of competing in the NFL.

I’m also glad there were no injuries. Good thing the Saints went easy on us. Even if they didn’t, good you don’t want them to.

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by Pat Willie on Aug 13, 2011 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I will say one thing that confused me was

I thought they spent most of their time doing 3 and 5 step drops in practice

Regardless of whether it’s against a blitz, why didn’t we see a series of 3 step drops?

Argh, frustrating, such a waste of a game…

by whistlingmountain on Aug 13, 2011 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hard to complete 3,5 or any step drops when the Oline

Is getting pushed back into AS….. But in the same breath not giving any excuses to AS either you’re a Veteran buddy. RELAX…stop getting frazzled & hit VD on the numbers not the superdome turf.

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 13, 2011 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

they TRIED a lot of 3-5 step drops, but the pressure was still getting there too fast. The best way to combat a heavy blitz scheme like that is to spread out the D, and I really understand if Harbaugh didn’t want to bring out his spread package in preseason game one.

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by Viliphied on Aug 13, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dirty? No. Unsportsman like? Yes.

This much blitzing in the first pre-season game is unheard of. Coming off a lockout against a team with a new coaching staff makes it even more questionable. It would get talked about on the national press if the 49ers were a big time team with a big time QB, bu as it is they’re a crappy team with a crappy QB so it’s one of those, shut up and play deals.

They only get 6 weeks and 4 games to get ready this year and to spend one basically repeating the same thing over and over was extremely disappointing.

That being said, if they had ONE play against a blitz, they could have done it a couple times and maybe loosened up the defense. Just felt like a giant waste of time though to me though, why do it the entire game? These aren’t excuses for the 49ers being terrible, they were going to be terrible whether the Saints blitzed or not, the point of the pre-season is not to pummel your opponent and hit their QB, it’s to work all aspects of the game and decide your depth chart.

by whistlingmountain on Aug 13, 2011 7:31 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Stop whining

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by Pat Willie on Aug 13, 2011 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Come on you're doing a little whining here

You called it unsportsmanlike to blitz. It’s football for god’s sake. they were practicing their blitz packages on us and is was working wonderfully. It would have been nice if our offense could have found a way to stop a couple of them, but it helps more than hurts us if there were no injuries.

It’s not unsportsman-like, it’s good football, something the 49ers need to learn to play against. Something the 49ers need to learn to play.

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by Pat Willie on Aug 13, 2011 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I re-read it and it still reads like that to me

You said “unsportsman-like? yes.” in your title. Whatever it’s not worth arguing over. I’m sorry I just don’t think anything the Saints did was what you shoulkdn’t expect in a regular season game. Why would you not see it in practice?

We aren’t practicing to play against High School football teams. We are practicing to play against teams that are going to dial up the blitz until we can prove we can beat it.

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by Pat Willie on Aug 13, 2011 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

To blitz every play over and over the entire first pre-season game is unsportsman like

that is not the same as “all blitzing is unsportsmanlike”

There’s plenty to discuss without trying to bend every statement into a straw man.

by whistlingmountain on Aug 13, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I disagree

If the Saints want to blitz every down, that’s fine by me. If the Saints want to throw deep every offensive play, that’s also fine with me. We should be able to beat a predictable offense or defense. If we can’t, then we got problems (obviously).

by Joe Como on Aug 13, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

the thing about that

it’s really hard to beat a d that’s bringing 5-7 every down with a vanilla scheme. I really don’t think Harbaugh was about to bust out the tricks he would use in the regular season to combat that defense

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by Viliphied on Aug 13, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think it was a combo

Of not wanting to show their whole playbook in the preseason, the fact that the offense is probably not yet up-to-speed on the entire playbook and the fact that a lot of the pressure was the result of the Saints winning 1-on-1 battles.

Also, neither the coaches or the players anticipated this level of blitzing. Lesson learned, but a tough one to learn, I’m sure.

by Joe Como on Aug 13, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

No I'm not straw man-ing you here

I read it right You just didn’t understand what I’m saying. If they blitz every down there are plenty of ways to beat them, we never took advantage of any of those. They kept blitzing. It’s not unsportsman-like.

Sorry for the whining comment, I guess thats a little harsh.
You don’t seem like a whiner.

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by Pat Willie on Aug 13, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually it is pretty unsportsmanlike

If you ever played in a scrimmage game you’d know that. This pre-season game is being played when teams should be playing friendly scrimmages and our team has been installing a new offense. They should have had Mays put Brees on the IR with a late hit.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 13, 2011 5:38 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

What I'd like to see is a few screen plays to take the pressure off the blitz

Every team in the NFL knows we can’t execute a screen play or pick up most blitzes so this is going to be our season until we learn.

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by Pat Willie on Aug 13, 2011 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

They tried a couple screens, but neither were successful

I’d say a slant, a fade, or instead of a full on screen, just release a RB or TE straight to the flat and let them be 1v1 vs a LB or S coming up.

by whistlingmountain on Aug 13, 2011 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

That isn't necessary, and you know it.

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by James Brady on Aug 13, 2011 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

in a way it reminds me

of the college basketball team that triple teamed steph curry all game so they could say they were the only team that held him scoreless. I mean, not like the saints wanted bragging rights over the vaunted 49ers offense, but it was still a choice that I believe will hurt them in the long run.

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by Viliphied on Aug 13, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

The center is the one that usually calls blitz pickups

Goodwin is real good at calling blitz pickups. Y’all will be a lot better with him in.

The way the Saints defense played is the way they play in practice. They have to to go against Drew Brees everyday. If Drew gets more that 3 seconds to throw the offense usually wins.

That guy Long looked good, I didn’t get to see all of his routes but what I did see looked good.

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by DrWhoDat on Aug 13, 2011 7:38 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't know that many of us are worried about the blitzes

more worried that the linemen in 1v1 situations were getting pushed around with ease.

stuff that doesn’t have to do with scheming.

by whistlingmountain on Aug 13, 2011 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously thank you Saints for kicking our a**

49ers got a lot to do

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 13, 2011 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

No way we thank them

thats too Mike Singletary—-ish. We have to take a hard look at the Oline and in open competition choose our best five starters. That would probably send Chilo to the bench and make Boone our left tackle.

by mensa on Aug 13, 2011 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol right on the Sing quote....

but if this team wants to bring back a winning ‘attitude’ as Harbs says. They played a team that has that. Now as for O-line couldn’t agree more lots competiton this upcoming week, and not just at O-line. Have ST punt & ko coverage, saftey opposite whitner, OLB’s, DL’s, WR…..just about everywhere.

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 13, 2011 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I'm not part of the Saints organization, just a fan

It might be a conspiracy theory but:

Greg Williams might be doing a little psychological warfare on the Packers, sort of like he did to the Colts before the Superbowl. If so, then all of the blitzing was to make the packers stay in film room studying plays they are never going to see.

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by DrWhoDat on Aug 13, 2011 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

its fine by me...

i’m quite happy with the bland playcalling and i’m also very glad that new orleans dialled up
as many blitzes as they did… now our coaching staff knows what a nicely executed blitz looks like (even though it is the preseason) and can obviously see the breakdowns on the o-line, and they can get to work at fixing it…..if there’s one thing we’ve learnt from this staff, and the FO as well for that matter, it’s that they won’t show their hand to appease anyone, the fans be damned…..

by ratumike on Aug 13, 2011 7:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Why is no one mentioning the bad snaps

not even the gun was where it should have been. I saw Alex barely catching the ball, like the ball like he didn’t expect it. Timing was way off.

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Aug 13, 2011 7:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Everybody has mentioned the bad snaps.

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by James Brady on Aug 13, 2011 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I must not have read enough

but I’m glad to hear it

Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.

by goatfather on Aug 13, 2011 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sadly..., I agree

I have to rec this for brutal truth

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by Pat Willie on Aug 13, 2011 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Top-Gun analogy

F-14s, not F-16s.

Where does Ice Man get stage fright? His initial wingman gets shot down and he’s all alone fighting for a while. He’s a cocky SOB, but all through training and in actual combat he backs it all up. He’s well, Iceman.

Hell, if anyone gets stage fright in that movie, it’s Maverick. He loses it mentally when Goose dies and he almost quits. Then when actual combat rolls around, Maverick almost retreats from the battle. Then of course, he doesn’t goes back in, shoots some bad guys, and everyone goes on happily.

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Get Luck by any means necessary in 2012? Crabtree is faking his injury because of no confidence in Smith? The O-line crumbled simply because they have no confidence in Smith? Am I missing the joke or something? Staley has missed significant time the past two seasons, still trying to sort out the C spot, still raw RT, meh RG, but what looks to be a good LG. I am thinking more that reports of our O-Line being one of the strong assets of the team were premature to this point. However, I won’t panic over it unless they’re still the holograms they were last night in Week 3.

Yeah, the game was a reality check, that the lockout really did hurt teams like the Niners who are trying to install a new system, with a new coach, etc.

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by Badly Browned on Aug 13, 2011 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Crap

Then of course, he doesn’t goes back in, shoots some bad guys, and everyone goes on happily.

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by Badly Browned on Aug 13, 2011 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think

…it was actually a missed comma. To wit, it reads correctly as:

“…Maverick almost retreats from the battle. Then, of course, he doesn’t, goes back in, shoots some bad guys, and everyone goes on happily.”

Grammar police out in force today! Watch yo’selves, peoples!

by Joe Como on Aug 13, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

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by Viliphied on Aug 13, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Alex is still Alex a second string QB who

should not be on this roster….Never ever in the history of the NFL has a QB drafted so high been given so many chances …He should ave been gone 3 years ago…..

Since he is our QB …Go alex..Yay..

by chunki on Aug 13, 2011 8:57 AM PDT reply actions  

It is the NFL, you have to expect the blitz anytime..

Was it “wrong” for the Saints to blitz so much? I don’t think so. We were completely overwhelmed by it, and as we all know, without a preforming offensive line, the pass and the run are compromised.

I really don’t believe our line is that bad, way too many 1 and 2nd round picks, and some great coaching. But it is the first presason game, after a handful of practices.

I am willing to bet we see marked improvement next week, and don’t want to go all sing here, but maybe this reality check is what the team needed.

.

by jvosh on Aug 13, 2011 9:11 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Babysitting

It wasn’t Greg Williams responsibility to babysit our offensive line. Whether he was trying to evaluate talent and chemistry or he simply wanted to give a ego boost to his defense, those were his calls to make. Iupati was the only 0-lineman i don’t remember stinking it up yesterday.

by Mukkeluk on Aug 13, 2011 9:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Blitzing doesn't bother me one bit.

Did they blitz too much? Maybe if it was the Colts defense that plays cover 2 but Greg Williams does this all season long so why not get the work in during preseason? He shouldn’t have to hide his scheme because it’s just the preseason. He’s been in New Orleans for a few years and everyone can get that film if they want it. that is just how the Saints play defense.
I wish we could play like that

Call me cautiously optimistic....because I know what the Niners do to people who have real optimism (see the last 8 years).

by crumpedup15 on Aug 13, 2011 9:18 AM PDT reply actions  

For everyone negative-

maybe you should just give up and throw in the towel for the year….. I mean some of you guys are freaking depressing…… either take a deep breath and cool your jets and realize its the preseason….. or just stop with the god like knowledge of how you think you can coach and go post somewhere else… maybe set up a thread for all negative posts…

by forwardgunner49 on Aug 13, 2011 9:58 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Smith and the coaching staff have no excuse

It’s one thing not to expect it—but they better, cause this will be the gameplan for every defense facing A Smith this year: bring relentless pressure with man coverage down field until he shows he can beat us—but come on, make an adjustment. Spread the field. Throw on first down. The coaching staff and O-line barely gave Smith a chance to do anything. But still, Smith has to be better with pocket awareness and making throws under duress. Struggling against pressure is his problem. Other QBs deal with this too, but Defenses have to play more honest against most of them because their Qbs can make plays.

by salary_cap on Aug 13, 2011 9:58 AM PDT reply actions  

It's funny, because I see people praising the defense -

- without realizing the the offense’s failure and the defenses success are two sides of the same coin.

The team had far fewer practices than they normally have before the first preseason game. Of course they were out of synch on offense. They’ve probably only really practiced half the playbook, so their options are limited.

Obviously, things have to be better, but this game told us much less than most people are acting like it told us.

by Ronaldinho on Aug 13, 2011 10:08 AM PDT reply actions  

I've the same sentiment

Payton threw some vanilla offenses at the Niners D.

by Mood_Indigo on Aug 13, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

There is nothing fundamentally wrong with our O Line

They have been implementing new protection schemes for all of 12 practices. The offense is overall two months behind schedule.

They were not ready for Gregg William’s blitz packages operating between gaps and disguised safety blitzes. They were trying to focus on hand-offs and the early pressure rattled Snyder.

With Goodwin at center, the O Line will look much better next Saturday.

by Mood_Indigo on Aug 13, 2011 10:42 AM PDT reply actions  

There were some scheme issues

But the vast majority of the pressure was just guys getting beaten 1 on 1 — just like last year.

Goodwin played last night, and the fact that most people couldn’t tell the difference between him and Snyder leads me to believe maybe he isn’t the solution to the problem.

by Ougadas on Aug 13, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Goodwin is a Pro Bowl center.

One may invest one’s evaluation of the team as much as one wants based on this game. One should be prepared to reverse course in a month.

by Mood_Indigo on Aug 13, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

But the vast majority of the pressure was just guys getting beaten 1 on 1 — just like last year.

You’re going to get beaten one – on – one a lot more often if you’re mentally trying to adjust constantly, if you’re not comfortable with your assignment.

If 10% of your brain is still trying to acclimate to the scheme, that means only 90% of it is focused on stopping the guy in front of you. Nobody overcomes that sort of disadvantage in the NFL.

Now, look, if this is still going on in a month we’ve got huge problems. You can’t win in the NFL with a lousy line. But this is not the time to come to any grand pronouncements about it.

by Ronaldinho on Aug 13, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

This will still be going on in a month

After all, it’s been going on since last season.

These aren’t problems with scheme. These are problems with athleticism and technique that aren’t going to be fixed in a full off-season — nevermind a truncated one.

by Ougadas on Aug 13, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

After all, it’s been going on since last season.

We never had an offensive line performance anything like what we saw yesterday last season.

That was arguably the worst o-line performance I’ve ever seen. It was an order of magnitude worse than anything we saw last season.

Look, I’m one of those guys who thinks that the o-line is the most important part of your football team. I’d rather have a good OL than a good QB. And I have some real concerns, particularly on the right side. If last year’s rooks don’t have the expected-from-rookie lineman improvement then we’re in a lot of trouble.

But don’t tell me what we saw last night has been going on since last season. It hasn’t. Last night was a line in complete disarray – and it’s very hard to make any sort of individual evaluation in that context.

by Ronaldinho on Aug 13, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

You're looking at results

and saying that we didn’t get that last season. I agree.

But this is the pre-season and I don’t care about results. I’m looking at player technique in instances where they were one on one with a defender and failed.

I’m looking at why our guys failed to block their assignments, and they are having the same issues they had last year, only more frequently.

by Ougadas on Aug 13, 2011 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, rather than just repeat myself, I’ll simply say:

Just like you can’t expect a QB to make a good thrown the one down he gets enough time to, when he’s hit hard all afternoon up to that point, you can’t expect a lineman to be good in one-on-one battles when the scheme isn’t working, the center is late with his line-calls because he’s new at that position, etc. Individual performance happens in a team context, and plays have an impact on subsequent plays.

And then you’ve got to add in an extra amount of rust from reduced training time. Players have had far less time with coaches to work on stuff like technique and get the rust off than they would normally have at the time of the first preseason game. The team would normally work on that in OTAs, which didn’t happen, and we’ve had less camp than normal.

So between those two issues, I think you’re reading far too much into what happened on Friday.

by Ronaldinho on Aug 14, 2011 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

this is the reality of post-lockout football for the 'niners.

No matter how bad much of last night was, it’s naive to draw conclusions about how the season will turn out based on one pre-season game. you can come to a lot of “he/they are PROBABLY going to…” but you cannot say “he/they are CERTAINLY going to…”. They haven’t even learned the complete system yet! Have they been introduced to it? yes. Taught it? yes. Learned it… no, of course not. This is the reality of post-lockout football for a team with a new coach/new scheme. Did anyone think that was magically not going to be an issue for the ‘niners? Football is an incredibly complex game – with guys on the offensive side all having to look at the D scheme and, in five to ten seconds and without verbally communicating, make the same correct reads and adjustments before, during and after the snap of the ball. If you thought they were going to come out last night and perform well, respectfully, you don’t understand the game. The only chance they had to do anything on offense was smothered when the Saints decided to rehearse their blitz packages (totally reasonable but, man, brutal…). I didn’t say come out and fight, many of our guys did that nobly – but competing with a recent super bowl champion? really?

For those asking why Harbaugh/Roman didn’t make adjustments… how were they supposed to do that? They barely have the basic offense learned, adjusting would be like asking a novice pilot flying a piper cub to “adjust” to flying a twin engine G5… it just doesn’t work that way. If they still suck in pre-season game 4, I will STILL not draw conclusions, other than who is getting better and who is getting worse. I could see the team not “getting it”, not having “the lights go on”, until the third or fourth game of the regular season. It’s a drag for those of us who live and breathe this team, but what Harbaugh and squad are doing is trying to introduce contemporary NFL football and all its complexities to a team that has been operating at a much simpler level for the past few years. That will not/cannot happen quickly. So… fasten your seat belts, it’s going to be a bumpy road. In the meantime, I’m looking to see which players MIGHT thrive in this new world order once it is fully implemented, and which SEEM to be hopeless cases.

sorry for the long post. venting.

by mwright84 on Aug 13, 2011 11:02 AM PDT reply actions  

Outrage?

Its the nfl and its a competitive game. Yah preseason is useless in terms of winning the game. But especially this year, its an evaluation of your game strategy and whether or not you are making mistakes. The 49ers clearly made a lot and were not prepared for blitzes. Is it being too harsh? Hell no. Is that going to be your excuse when the games matter? Im glad they blitzed the crap out of the 49ers an exposed a major weakness of our O-line. Hopefully they wake up and get their act together instead of whining about it. This isn’t peewee or even high school football. If they don’t like it then they need to find another sport, because this is what is all about.

by fireroad01 on Aug 13, 2011 11:34 AM PDT reply actions  

Didn't the NINERS

Smack the hell out of Favre in a pre-season game last year? On a blitz?

by Aaron3061 on Aug 13, 2011 11:50 AM PDT reply actions  

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Yes, MI blocked DT instead. @49ersCBSSports On that 1st hit by W. Smith, Staley was expecting help from Iupati. Screamed at him afterward.

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by manraj7 on Aug 13, 2011 12:01 PM PDT reply actions  

It's the Pre-season, it means NOTHING

Extrapolation is pointless and will always lead to the wrong conclusions. Some of the same people who are jumping out the Window now were predicting Superbowl when we went 4-0 last pre-season facepalm.

by suffrin9erfan on Aug 13, 2011 12:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe I'm making excuses

But I expect most of the preseason games to be short on excitement.

It’s Harbaugh’s first year and I figured going in that he is not going to be showing the NFL a whole lot of his playbook during preseason play, and though it may not lead to meaningless wins, it could serve the team well going into a year in which they are already at many disadvantages.

He’s going to keep things vanilla until the games count. At least that’s my feeling.

by ManBearPig21 on Aug 13, 2011 1:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Niners need to do whatever they need to in order to get MR. Andrew Luck. May be we can have another stiuation like Eli Manning telling the Chargers not to draft him, saying I won’t play for you. Whoever has the first pick may be, just maybe Luck won’t want to play for them and say so, hopefully Niners will have a high enough pick and will be able to move up to get him. Also Niners need to get some Olinemen, preferably in free agency, drafting olineme clearly has not worked. Need to get proven probowl Olinemen in free agency next year.

by bmcrae83@yahoo.com on Aug 13, 2011 1:17 PM PDT reply actions  

There isn't a QB in the league -

- who could look decent when the OL is getting its tail handed to it like that.

To look at what happened yesterday and say “wow, what we need is a better QB” is insane.

We may well need a better QB. But yesterday’s performance had nothing to do with the QB and everything to do with the OL.

by Ronaldinho on Aug 13, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Truthfully

If the 49ers had Peyton Manning the defense wouldn’t dare blitz them like that.

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by bignerd on Aug 13, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

A healthy Manning would have looked terrible yesterday.

Manning has had, for most of his career, a very solid offensive line. When they haven’t been able to keep the pressure off him, well – he’s a guy who was not shy about throwing his linemen under the bus after tough losses.

Just like every other QB in league history, Manning is not particularly effective if you hit him fast and often. Now, do I suspect he’d be a lot better than Alex Smith under those circumstances? Sure. But he’d be a losing quarterback with the kind of protection we saw yesterday.

You can’t win in the NFL when your line gives you that little time.

by Ronaldinho on Aug 13, 2011 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are we really shocked?

O.K…..not that I want the Niners to look like a H.A.M. (Hot A** Mess for those uninformed.) But, I can’t say this is a real shock for me. What is shocking is that the Niners kept it close for so long. From Kaepernick, I really didn’t expect him to impress as he is a raw rookie. However, from Smith, I must say that his ABYSMAL performance was right on target. I have complained for quite a while, to no avail.

Sorry folks, there are simply no excuses left. Yes, the offensive line played like a spaghetti strainer, yet as a seasoned veteran, Smith should have seen most of the blitzes coming a country mile away. It’s not as if Greg Williams has changed his packages THAT much! It’s one of thew main reasons that the vaunted 4-6 D didn’t last. IT was blitz on 1st, 2nd, 3rd down….and if that didn’t work…..BLITZ THE Popcorn Guy!

Before anyone begins to light torches, and call for pitchforks in my neighborhood, understand I am a Niner fan for life. I know we are going through a transition….(AGAIN!) This team has the talent to win. We have a coach with the pedigree, and a defense that should do well. But, if this 1st game tells us anything…..it’s…..Alex Smith….I TOLD YOU
SO!

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by DarkkStarr1 on Aug 13, 2011 1:35 PM PDT reply actions  

New season, same crappy team. I’m a over the road truck driver and I can smell the stench coming from this team when I’m clear across the country. That’s how bad this team is, but I ’ll keep routting for them. Been a fan all the way back to the John Brody days.

by bmcrae83@yahoo.com on Aug 13, 2011 1:54 PM PDT reply actions  

seriously

I’ve been a niners fan as long as I can remember, and I happen to think I’ve seen quite a bit of good quarterbacking, and bad over the years and I refuse to blame Alex Smith for our problems. We have been horrible on offense forever now for a couple years. even our best player(gore)has fumbling issues. What everyone has been missing is that we had no playcalling and no line. Hell they didn’t even get him any weapons till crabtree and I believe that dude is only fast enough to be a number two wideout.lets be honest with ourselves, what weapons and coaching has Alex actually had…had some great coaches early, but never any talent on the outside or on the on-line. I don’t care who woulda been playing qb, whether its Manning, vick or whoever, they would have been destroyed the way our o-line played yesterday. I could have blocked better. I know Alex isn’t gonna break any hall of fame records and appear annually in the pro bowl, but until everyone around him plays better(I don’t know how many dropped passes and fumbles I saw last year),and significantly better line play he will continue to look the same and and so will our offense. Dude needs more time to throw plain and simple, he just does, and frankly I don’t think its impossible to do. We block better(way the hell better), and I promise Alex wont let us down…but like I said…I’ve been waiting a little under a decade for the team to address it.

by texasniner31 on Aug 13, 2011 2:25 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

So we blitz in practice.....a lot

Fangio needs to bring serious heat in practice. Blitz from all over. Continue to attack this offense until it shows it can adjust.

DrWhoDat makes a very good point in this thread when he talks about the NO defense playing against DBrees and co in practice. They have been more attack ready because it’s what they need to do to look good to their coaches.

Our offense has speed all over, and to no surprise- our defense is exceptionally adept at playing the run and defending all parts of the field.

Ninernation, practice is important. For those of you who want to complain about how bad this football team is…Chill out. It’s really annoying to read that kind of over reaction. The plain and simple truth of this team is that there has been very little time to learn an infinitely more complex offense than the one we ran last year. Practice will make perfect. And patience makes champions.

by t p on Aug 13, 2011 2:33 PM PDT reply actions  

OMG guys...really?

Whats with all the haters and fair-weather fan comments? Give me a break, almost all of you were optimistic about this season during the last week and now after one preseason game the majority of it is negative. We had 11 practices before the first game, brought in and shipped out a number of players, installed two completely different playbooks on offense and defense led by an overhauled new NFL coaching staff….and most of you seem to be writing this season off already?

I read these articles a lot and hardly comment because most of the time there is a pretty good balance of comments that cover a lot of how i feel about the game, the article content, etc. Give the team a break, if you dont want to get your hopes up then dont.

Part of me hopes Harbaugh called up the Saints and asked him to beat the crap out of this team! You LEARN more from your FAILURES then you do from your SUCCESSES and thats what Harbaugh’s about. Learn and get better. Walsh went 2-14 in his first season with the 49ers and led us to multiple Superbowl’s. Give it some time, with all the change thats happened on our team in the last 8 months its gunna take some time before we become Superbowl Champions again. Rome wasn’t built in a day and a Championship team isnt built in one season. Ask the Miami Heat and the New York Jets.

by 49ersfanFURlife on Aug 13, 2011 3:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Okay my fellow Niners fans, just for the sake of levity & to point out how the 1st preseason game means little in the way of stats

Rex Grossman went 16 for 26 for 207 1TD and a QB rating of 109 against the Steelers. Does anyone here think that Grossman will have that kind of stat line at any point in the season or that Grossman is a better QB than Alex Smith. Or even that the skill players on the Skins are better than what this team has.

Look I will not make excuses the team played like garbage, outside of the 1st team defense all aspect of the team need to be worked on. Thats just plain fact and thats okay, thats what this team needed.

This team will take their butt whooping in stride and use it to get better. The pass protection scheme is completely different and the players of the line are getting used to it. The only player on the line that looks ready is Goodwin but that because he comes from a system that is so intricate. No one on the line has ever seen an offensive scheme so complex

Last preseason, they played like champs and what happened? a 4-0 record during the preseason and a 6-10 record during the season. That is obviously why Singletary was fired and Harbaugh was hired. 12 practices is not enough to get a competent team out there especially when you are changing all 3 schemes.

As long as the team continues to progress and the players continue to get better I will be ecstatic if we end up with 1-3 or 0-4 preseason record. The best 53 players on this roster will show themselves and the best 22 will be the starters. The coaches know that

One thing that I noticed is that I didnt or hear one tirade from any of the coaches. Of course they were frustrated and upset that the team didnt play well because they knew that this was the 1st time that this team was on the field and that because of the cards that there were that everything was not going to run smoothly. There was going to be issues and that when they looked over the details of the game they would have a clear assessment of the areas that the team needs to get better at.

by Lok on Aug 13, 2011 5:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Joe Staley...

Im sorry, but he does not play very well

by BigMar on Aug 13, 2011 7:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Didn't get a chance to see Kaepernick, but I agree about Smith.

He didn’t play very well, but I think that early pressure by the Saints really got to him. While it’s only the first game, I’m pretty concerned about the offensive line. They were manhandled by the Saints’ defense. Neither Smith nor Kaerpernick are going to succeed if the line continues to play like that.

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky"-Michael Scott.

by SharksFanEst.1994 on Aug 14, 2011 11:08 AM PDT reply actions  

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