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Daunte Culpepper To Work Out For The 49ers

Pro Football Talk is reporting a league source says the San Francisco 49ers are going to bring in Daunte Culpepper for a chat and a workout. This comes following offensive struggles on Friday and Him Harbaugh indicating the team might consider adding a veteran free agent in the right circumstances.

The quarterback performance was fairly abysmal for much of Friday's game and we're all hoping for a sizable improvement next week against the Raiders. The lack of offseason practices created a steep learning curve this month and we're seeing that play out. I agree that the offensive line did them no favors, so it is probably easier to chalk it up as an overall poor performance.

As for bringing in Culpepper for a workout, I'm not really sure what to make of that. It's good to at least do his due diligence with some veterans. At the same time, Culpepper's last strong season was 2004. He's had his moments since then, but they've been far and few between. I don't really know how I'd compare him with Troy Smith or David Carr, but for a third QB, I guess it's more or less "whatever."

Do you guys think Daunte Culpepper could bring anything of value to the 49ers QB position?

On a side note, big thanks to Ninjames and the rest of the front page stuff for putting together some quality content yesterday in spite of what looked to be a fairly dismal performance on Friday. I'm out of town and finally getting a chance to re-watch the game and it is not a thing of beauty.

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Smells of desperation to me

by jayslikeblah on Aug 14, 2011 1:31 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Well from what we watched on Friday, I don't think that was a true definition of WCO.

It actually looked similar to what the Vikings ran when Dante played there to be honest.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

The true "definition" is what Walsh developed while in Cincinnati and then later brought to S.F. with him.

Nothing similar has been ran since.

Like you said, there have been a thousand diff variations. I think a lot of people were hoping for this Walsh style offense which in today’s game would get picked apart before the 1st Quarter was over.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you

one must clarify what they mean by WCO since it has lost its meaning due to being used excessively without content or context.

by salary_cap on Aug 14, 2011 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

that is not at all what it sounds like

no org thinks to themselves we need a fat QB to take the beating from our horrid O-line. He sucks but who cares, he’s fat. What it actually sounds like is that Harbaugh realizes HE DOESN’T HAVE A QB, WHICH HAS BEEN APPARENT TO MOST CONSCIOUS CREATURES FOR QUITE SOME TIME. Bringing in Dante won’t change that, but Harbaugh has few options at this point.

by salary_cap on Aug 14, 2011 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

It seems like the kind of thing that happens all the time to me. Pretty standard stuff. At most, he’s the new David Carr. At least, he’s a clubhouse visit with a fond farewell.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is why we needed to get a JJ or Flynn type a long time ago

Alex Smith is clearly not the answer and throwing in Kapaernick too early is a terrible idea. Why wasn’t this decision made months ago?

by asmithisaverage on Aug 14, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

NO, please, NO

We need a QB that can start. Deal for Carson Palmer, or Kyle Orton.

by scrappydog on Aug 14, 2011 1:39 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Yeah right.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Orton

is set to make 10MM and Denver is asking for a 2nd round pick in return; that is NOT going to happen. Brown has repeatedly said that he will not trade Palmer. If San Francisco can come in with a 3rd round pick and maybe Taylor Mays, the Bengals “may” look at it

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 14, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

That old stubborn man is not going to budge.

I can’t wait till Palmer unretires next year and totally screw his salary cap up. Haha!

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

cap

They’re so far under the cap it wouldn’t matter.

by David Fucillo on Aug 14, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Depends on his timing.

They could make a push in free agency and be near it, and then next thing you know Palmer makes the move.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Their cap situation doesn't matter

If Palmer were to report next year, they will deal him, they’re not going to pay him 10m on the bench to prove a point

by whistlingmountain on Aug 14, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

He should have not retired this year and just sat refusing to play.

They’d probably cut him. Just show up to all organized activities and then refuse to play.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

joking aside

players can’t do that because of breach of contract clauses, he’d have to pay back all the money he made and then probably a penalty

by whistlingmountain on Aug 14, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Noooo, he is average at best and that

was playing for the Mountain Lions…Last year.

by chunki on Aug 14, 2011 1:41 PM PDT reply actions  

They should wait for cuts to bring someone in

Culpeppers good days are behind him

"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."

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by EcERyda69 on Aug 14, 2011 1:43 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Sign the man, he’s no worse than what they have now. Who knows ? he just might bring something to the table. I repeat MIGHT?? bring something to the table.

by bmcrae83@yahoo.com on Aug 14, 2011 1:43 PM PDT reply actions  

9.5 out of 10 on the U got to be effing kidding me scale

Yes just what this 49ers team needs. Whenever the offense drives the ball down to the 5 yard line this guy will call his name all three plays to ensure his face and stat line show up on Sportscenter.

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by bignerd on Aug 14, 2011 1:44 PM PDT reply actions  

He was taking points off the scoreboard running crap offense for his own glory.

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by bignerd on Aug 14, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I watched him on the Raiders

He did it constantly. He’d either constantly audible the play call on the line or go so far as to botch the play so he could throw it or try to run in himself. He’d have nothing to do with the team driving the ball down the field and end up with a final stat line of 170 yards passing and 3 TDs.

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by bignerd on Aug 14, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Career completion percentage in the NFL

Alex Smith – 57.1%
Dante Culpepper – 63.0%

Dunno… may as well give it a shot.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 1:45 PM PDT reply actions  

But... if you add context

One’s percentage is going down as the years pass by and one’s is going up.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

or look at his TD/INT's since '05

20 TD’s, 32 INT’s.

dont really think he’d help myself

by craziness@analltimehigh on Aug 14, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also a good argument to sign Fran Tarkenton

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by bignerd on Aug 14, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds good.

Tell Baalke to get on the phone.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can you spell P-A-N-I-C !

I dont know if to laugh or cry.

by BigMar on Aug 14, 2011 1:47 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

This isnt panic

The way the O Line played they might as well stick up on QB’s

"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."

Norm Sloan

"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."

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by EcERyda69 on Aug 14, 2011 1:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Huge ones at that.

We should bring in Jamarcus Russell too. Let him take a beating too.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bring everybody in

Get Steve Young and Montana.

"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."

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by EcERyda69 on Aug 14, 2011 1:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

PANIC & PATIENCE

Well, we keep being told to have patience… Yet, remove three letters, and we have panic… So… TEE up the PANIC… If we sign Culpepper, I consider us a) in Panic mode, and b) in rebuild, “let’s just make it through the season” mode.

I would rather stick with Alex and deal with it, then to pay Culpepper to do no better. Perhaps Kaepernick learns something from Culpepper (eg more mobile QB stuff), but still not sold on Culpepper. I think waiting till cut day this preseason may provide a better backup qb option, and whoever is cut will have had recent pre-season play time [over Culpepper].

Bring him in, kick the tires a little, but please don’t be fooled into signing Culpepper…

by D.P on Aug 15, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Uh-oh....

I loved the guy back when he was on the Vikings, but that was a long time ago… I doubt he plays, just a fall back option. But still.

by ConnerD on Aug 14, 2011 1:48 PM PDT reply actions  

meh.

but then I have a reading problem...

by Bob In Beaverton on Aug 14, 2011 1:48 PM PDT reply actions  

So…. I guess harbaugh has lost confidence in smith?

by ninersince94 on Aug 14, 2011 1:49 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Thought maybe giving Kaep 3 Qtrs of reps was a hint

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by bignerd on Aug 14, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

U know what

So nn, grammar queens; been followin’ 4 awile. Been through “ur” hazin’ gotta talk ball w/ fooch, drew, Vincent; one day.

by mrb24 on Aug 14, 2011 1:50 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

You already said this once...

and still it doesn’t make any sense

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by jonesin25 on Aug 14, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I hear that.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Harbaugh...WTF are you thinking?

Culpepper…. LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by BigMar on Aug 14, 2011 1:53 PM PDT reply actions  

I have not big expectations for Daunte

He will most likely never regain pre-2005 form. However, there really isn’t a risk to bringing him in. It would be at the veteran minimum, no guaranteed money

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 14, 2011 1:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Overreaction.

I don’t think he is bringing him in to start. There is a method to this assumed “madness”.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

See above

Great minds think alike LOL

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 14, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

It makes sense

Either Alex or Kaep is going to start this year barring injury. Period. So if you want an experienced emergency back up this isn’t a bad name. If it were me I would also see if Marc Bulger would consider the gig.

by Jaxson876 on Aug 14, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think

Bulger has officially turned in his retirement papers, so that could be a long shot possibility.

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 14, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dilfer kinda came that way didn't he?

End of career through Baltimore. I’d rather have Culpepper or Bulger or someone else like that than Masolli or the three name guy as the 3rd QB.

by Jaxson876 on Aug 14, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude

 it isn’t like they are betting the season on Culpepper. He would come in as the 3rd string QB and be in competition for a roster spot. Really, there isn’t anything wrong with this. Its not like SF is bringing him in to challenge Smith and CK for the starting spot

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 14, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't quite understand this move.

There will be better QBs being cut during the next few weeks then Culpepper. And I’m sure everyone and their uncles could see the QBs weren’t the biggest problem against the Saints.

I survived the David Carr Press Conference Thread 3/06/2010
And Harbamania. And the San Francisco Giants 2010 World Series season.

by Hoopers Judge on Aug 14, 2011 1:59 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

jimbo seen alex smith first hand in that preseason game and realized he is not that good. he saw what the poor 9er fan been seeing for 6 years

by dem9ers on Aug 14, 2011 2:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Based on 12 plays or whatever it was?

I seriously doubt the hours and hours of film that he watched on Smith was scrapped in watching him play against the Saints for a few minutes.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don't know if he watched enough film, to see the pocket presence of a basket case.

He’s a basket case, point blank period, not een Harbaugh will get through to him, in other words we don’t have time, he still looks like a second year player, enough with the Alexcuses.

Pre Snap reads, if Smith doesn't get better at it, we made a HUGE mistake!!!

by rlott#42 on Aug 14, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would Culpepper be any worse that

MCBLT or Masoli? I really doubt it, this would be an upgrade at the #3 QB position, nothing more

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 14, 2011 2:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Nothing more

Although I do want to see what Masoli will do with some preseason snaps

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by jonesin25 on Aug 14, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Coach... how about you FIX your O-Line....

or your Q.B.’s all will end up in IR.

oh and by the way….Culpepper LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by BigMar on Aug 14, 2011 2:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Talking nonsense

If Daunte starts for the 49ers you can pretty much pack in the season. This means he isn’t going to start. How many times must it be noted that HE ISN"T BEING BROUGHT IN TO START!!!

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 14, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

So why bring him in?

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by bignerd on Aug 14, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Upgrade over the two #3s that the 49ers currently have

Also, it is just workout, this doesn’t mean the 49ers are signing him. If he doesn’t show anything, it will end with just a workout

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 14, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its embarrassing

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by bignerd on Aug 14, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

He never said Culpepper was going to start

I believe his main point was the o-line needs FIXing

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by jonesin25 on Aug 14, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

This
Culpepper LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 14, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

What does that have to do with Culpepper starting?

Just means he thinks Culpepper is a joke

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by jonesin25 on Aug 14, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

To have that response

in regards to a potential #3 quarterback working out wouldn’t make much sense to me. I was reading between the lines. Anyway, I could be completely wrong and I shouldn’t put words in people’s mouth

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 14, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Culpepper and Jamarcus could shore up the right side

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by EcERyda69 on Aug 14, 2011 2:15 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Jimbo...really..?

"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."

Norm Sloan

"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."

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by EcERyda69 on Aug 14, 2011 2:04 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Gosh

Favre in a 49er uniform would give me horrible nightmares……… I mean falling off a building nightmares.

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 14, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Won't happen anyway.

Andy Lee would never give up his jersey #.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Andy Lee

would drop kick Favre where his special man parts are supposed to be

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 14, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Favre would give us better chance to win this year

But would be a terrible move for the future.

How bout some other super bowl QBs from the past? Elway looked good last time I saw him throw a ball. Kurt Warner, Rex Grossman, Jake the Snake Delhomme, Rich Gannon, Brad Johnson, Kerry Collins. The names go on and on. I see quite a bit of mediocrity on that list.

Maybe having an elite QB isn’t as important as we all think it is.

by Dukeston1 on Aug 14, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someone please BAN this guy!!

2011 season can't come quick enough..

by AzNiner on Aug 14, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

2 projects on the team

I wouldn’t mind Renowned, but having 2 projects for Harbaugh to work with is asking a lot out of him

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by EcERyda69 on Aug 14, 2011 2:12 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

damn phone *Tebow

"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."

Norm Sloan

"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."

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by EcERyda69 on Aug 14, 2011 2:13 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I like it, why not?

improves the character of the third qb.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sadly this idea is 1000x times better than this plan

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by bignerd on Aug 14, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I would take Tebow giving up a 2nd.

They seem to like Quinn. It would be a nice idea to propose something like that a least.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dear god no

Tebow for a 5th or swap him for Byham. 1 blocking TE for another.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 14, 2011 5:25 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Coming from you? Holy Panic follicles Batman

Pre Snap reads, if Smith doesn't get better at it, we made a HUGE mistake!!!

by rlott#42 on Aug 14, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd say they are about even at this point.

But if you have two guys like that on the same roster, they would no doubt push each other to be better and the results would be that someone would emerge to be really, really good for the franchise.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

cool so maybe we should find another guy like Chilo to sign...

maybe we would get two guys who push each other to be total crap for the franchise…

by thatguywiththebeardandthebanjo on Aug 14, 2011 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey I am sorry

I just think we are much better off with Kaep than bringing in the Chosen Jersey seller…

by thatguywiththebeardandthebanjo on Aug 14, 2011 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love Kaep... go read some of my posts on him that I did before we even drafted him.

I took a metaphorical beating on this blog for having good things to say about him. I was easily the minority and now a lot of those same people are singing a different tune now.

The only reason I bring up Tebow is because of his fire and passion. We need some of that in the locker room. It’s been missing for years. Kaepernick plays with that same passion and has a super positive attitude.

Totally different situations, but look back on the time when Joe and Steve were fighting to be the starter. They both went balls to the wall and the team was better for it.

I believe the same would hold true with those two on the roster.

Look, it most likely is about the same chances of me winning $10,000 on a scratcher ticket. Prob not gonna happen. I just used Tebow as the example because we need someone like that to get in there and keep the fire burning for these quarterbacks. Not because he sells jersey’s.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like your passion here....

Would it work? I dunno maybe… League wide Tebow is looked at as a project that will not pan out… yes he will sell you some Jerseys especially in the midwest/ deep south. But I dont see him adding value to our team unless the front office wants to try to beat out Miley Cyrus in the headlines… if we are serious about bringing a QB in then lets go after J Johnson…. or what can we get for Mays and Crabs?

by thatguywiththebeardandthebanjo on Aug 14, 2011 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you watch Tebow play against the Cowboys?

Did you see Alex and Colin play on Friday?

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't see the Broncos/Cowboys game.

Tebow looking good? I saw the Niners game and I liked what I saw from Colin. Very accurate on the shorter throws for the most part which one can’t say about Alex.

by SanFranciscoKnights on Aug 14, 2011 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was 6/7 with 91 yards. 2 for 15 yards rushing.

Looked pretty darn accurate as far as I could tell. Deep pass and shorter ones looked good.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK I admit it

I just dont want Jesus next evangelical/mickey mouse club on my team… I want football players…

by thatguywiththebeardandthebanjo on Aug 14, 2011 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well he is a football player.

And he hasn’t brought any of that up since he has been a pro. I think his agent has advised him well to keep his personal stuff personal.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey to me better Iea than Culpepper maybe....

but I would rather have Garcia…. hand picked by the Genius… Culpepper vs. Garcia? who would you choose at this point?

by thatguywiththebeardandthebanjo on Aug 14, 2011 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I would have to see them both play.

2004 Daunte Culpepper vs 2000 Jeff Garcia?? Prob still Culpepper.

But Culpepper as old as he is, is still 7 years younger than Garcia who is 41-years old.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clarification

both those years were each’s respective best year.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow I didnt realize Culpepper washed out so young...

so he is 34? and hasnt been succsesful in the league since 2004? when he was what 27? At least we know Garcia will know the plays and get us down the field. Seriously, I would rather have a vet that can teach our up and coming QB’s the offense (Smith, Kaep{and bt the way lols on smith there}) than whatever culpper is supposed to add…

by thatguywiththebeardandthebanjo on Aug 14, 2011 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

We want Orton, We Want Orton

Oh never mind, we are not in Miami

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 14, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe for

Jeff Reed’s used toilet paper?

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 14, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he is willing to play for the Niners.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 2:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Still crazy that this guy

was an All-Pro level QB in the NFL. mad props to him.

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 14, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s at least a thirteen head

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

I was going to add more, but was playing it safe for the slow people

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by jonesin25 on Aug 14, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hope Kapernick starts against the raiders. Give Kaepernick the playing time to see what he can do.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 2:17 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't think that will happen

Just for the fact that Alex barely got to throw on Friday because he got nailed every time

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by jonesin25 on Aug 14, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well I think Alex only had like two throws that had the chance to even be bad

I don’t disagree with you, I’m as done with Alex as you are. But I still expect Alex to start next week. If he blows, I think we could see Kaep the following games.

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by jonesin25 on Aug 14, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

We still have to see what Smith can do.....

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by AzNiner on Aug 14, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kaepernick deserves a shot with the complete first team.

here is what alex smith can do……

 Career Stats Passing Rushing Sacked Fumbles
 Season Team G QBRat Comp Att Pct Yds Y/G Y/A TD Int Rush Yds Y/G Avg TD Sack YdsL Fum FumL
 2005-06 San Francisco 9 40.8 84 165 50.9 875 97.2 5.3 1 11 30 103 11.4 3.4 0 29 185 11 3
 2006-07 San Francisco 16 74.8 257 442 58.1 2890 180.6 6.5 16 16 44 147 9.2 3.3 2 35 202 10 5
 2007-08 San Francisco 7 57.2 94 193 48.7 914 130.6 4.7 2 4 13 89 12.7 6.8 0 17 121 6 5
 2009-10 San Francisco 11 81.5 225 372 60.5 2350 213.6 6.3 18 12 24 51 4.6 2.1 0 22 134 2 1
 2010-11 San Francisco 11 82.1 204 342 59.6 2370 215.5 6.9 14 10 18 60 5.5 3.3 0 25 140 4 2
 Career 54 72.1 864 1514 57.1 9399 174.1 6.2 51 53 129 450 8.3 3.5 2 128 782 33 16

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

My eyes... they burn!

Is there a way to post tables on SB Nation? That’s simply unreadable.

by brundylop on Aug 14, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

tables

In the comments you’d have to post as html I believe. I’m not sure how to post polls in comments otherwise.

by David Fucillo on Aug 14, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

again and again and again till were clear...

wait we might need to bring him back next year, just to be sure..

by thatguywiththebeardandthebanjo on Aug 14, 2011 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think veteran leadership is a good thing

Not sure Culpepper is the one to bring it. He hasn’t been relevant for a while now and never was more than just a descent qb.
I say wait to see who gets cut, but I do like that we are at least kicking the tires on some options

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by bryceclan on Aug 14, 2011 2:18 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Never been a decent QB?

How about in 2004 when he had 39 TD 11 INT 69.2 comp percentage? I’d say those are some better than decent numbers. I am fine with Culpepper as an emergency third QB. There is very little chance he will start a game.

by SanFranciscoKnights on Aug 14, 2011 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

To me this means that Harbaugh has lost some confidence in Alex.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 2:21 PM PDT reply actions  

than why bring in a veteran?

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

technically the niners do.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate to say this....

but NO ONe can really evaluate our Q. B. play with the way our O-Line failed them.

If our O-Line gave protection and then Alex still sucked O.K. then time to judge.

Harbaugh needs to primary blame the sucky O-Line play.

by BigMar on Aug 14, 2011 2:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Agreed

need maybe start thinking about utilizing Alex Boone instead of Anthony Davis and maybe signing Leonard Davis to play guard

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 14, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better lateral movement

It may become imminent that Davis has to move inside

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 14, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely not

Davis looked better than most on Friday, and the one sack he did give, he was barely beat. It wasn’t for a lack of movement or position, he dropped his which made it easy for the defender to reach around him. That will be an easy fix after watching film, and he didn’t make the mistake again during the game. He actually looked pretty good.

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by jonesin25 on Aug 14, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

His footwork is bad.

And he does have slow movement from side to side. It’s his most noticeable flaw. And it was coming out of Rutgers also.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well I agree it was bad last year

But after re-watching yesterday, I thought he was much improved. I expect him to be better this year. He is still very young with lots of upside

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by jonesin25 on Aug 14, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah he didn't look too good

He kept pinching down towards the center for some reason. There was 2 or 3 plays where a defender came right between him and Staley because he was doing that.

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by jonesin25 on Aug 14, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Barely got beat? Put down the crack pipe!

He false started so bad he was standing up straight a yard behind the line of scrimmage when the ball was snapped. And he STILL got destroyed

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by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 14, 2011 5:29 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

That one bad play? OK

Pre Snap reads, if Smith doesn't get better at it, we made a HUGE mistake!!!

by rlott#42 on Aug 14, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're right.

They were both pretty horrible.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Boone was pretty bad too.

He whiffed a lot.

I’ve watched the game like 3 times now and they all looked really bad. I have no idea what Solari had them doing for these past couple of weeks in their individual meetings

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup

And he was playing against the scrubs at that point

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by jonesin25 on Aug 14, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Any chance of that Casillas guy getting cut or put on the PS?

I’d love to see that guy playing in red and gold

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Possibly

I don’t think he is up on their depth chart at this point. I liked what I saw from Dobbs. I didn’t even know he existed until Friday, and he impressed me.

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by jonesin25 on Aug 14, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dobbs was listed as a 4-3 DE.

He only weighs 280 which is kinda standard for a 4-3 DE, not so much a 3-4 DE.

He played good against back ups, but I am concerned about his weight.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah but he was powerful

I would just be interested to see what he could do against better talent. The scrubs definitely couldn’t handle him.

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by jonesin25 on Aug 14, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

And played with a high motor

I just kept thinking that he looks like an overachiever

by Jaxson876 on Aug 14, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah that is right

I got no problems with overachievers

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by jonesin25 on Aug 14, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dobbs

Comes from a great program. Will take him a little to adjust to a 3-4 but you can’t beat his effort. His frame will hold another 15-20 lbs with little problem. Strength and body-weight can be fixed easily.

by Mukkeluk on Aug 14, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Coach Solari...

he has 3 1st rounders in Staley-Iupate-Davis and yet None of them look like they have been coached up to be Pro-Bowlers. Hummm , maybe we should start questioning Solari if the O-Line continues to play sub-par.

by BigMar on Aug 14, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Solari was highly touted when brought in.

I will reserve judgement but Friday did not look good in his favor.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Was" is the key word

This is a what have you done for me lately league. This is Solari second year bascally coaching the same players and to date…. can you honestly say you say any improvement over last season? I recognize its early, but just the same the O-line looked really really horrible.

by BigMar on Aug 14, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Solari got s#!tcanned in Seattle and was immediately picked up by our retarded former coach

Odds are Solari sucks considering the only thing Sing ever did right was fire Nate Davis.

Gimme 1 round!

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Played with the Mountain Lions too.

Is this the Niners new farm system?

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is it

Super Bowl here we come. He was the missing piece!

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 14, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

bottom line to me, I can not wait for the alex smith sagga to be over.

if someone told me it would be done after this year I would be happy and excited.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 2:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe he will be cut...

and the $5MM was just a parting gift?

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fine with me.

It’s worth $5M to get him out of here.

by Since79 on Aug 14, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only thing is, I want to wait a few games into the season before starting CK.

Because we do need to have someone as a punching bag out there until CK’s gotten a bit more NFL ready and the OLine looks like something other than 1-ply toilet paper.

by Since79 on Aug 14, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

what if it is soft 1-ply and not the cheap rough 1-ply?

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Put Alex behind one of the better O-Lines in the league...

I can’t help but think he plays so much better….yes?

by BigMar on Aug 14, 2011 2:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Its funny

I had the offensive line as a strength a couple weeks ago. I still think they can get it together, but that optimism is fading quickly

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 14, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

..

maybe alex behind of the better o-lines will make that o-line look like one of the worst o-lines in the league?

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

He could be mediocre with a great line. But in big games, or when the game is on the line, or when they move 8 up in the box to stop the run because he’s inconsistent throwing the sideline pass and the deep ball, that stuff isn’t about the OLine. That’s about his lack of physical ability and intensity at this level. He’s too mellow. Too compliant. Even when he argued with Singletary he basically just threw a tantrum. Then he was given another chance and failed AGAIN. How many times are we going to do this? Let’s move on.

by Since79 on Aug 14, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Obviously you’re a little slow. Alex has been AVERAGE statistically behind this horrible line. What was Kaep’s statline yesterday?

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 14, 2011 5:36 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

easy there
Obviously you’re a little slow

This is unnecessary and you know it.

by David Fucillo on Aug 14, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

do not know why but this reminded me of this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isumZjs3dKA

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 2:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Do you guys think Daunte Culpepper could bring anything of value to the 49ers QB position?

Short answer: No.

Of course, that’s not really important. What seems to be getting overlooked a lot in this thread is that this isn’t even a nothing move. It can’t be, since it’s not a move. Nothing has happened to the roster. The team brought in a guy for a workout. It happens All. The. Time. I seem to remember Culpepper himself actually getting workouts at this time last year, too. And look what came of those.

Anyway, it means nothing. If the team sees something interesting, maybe he comes on a the veteran minimum to fight for the emergency QB spot. That’s the most that could realistically come of this. The biggest possible effect is that he fights for a spot to back up two other guys. It means so little. It means nothing.

Reading anything into this seems like a fool’s game to me. He’s just a guy getting a workout late in an already shortened offseason.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2011 2:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Well this is interesting from CNNSI
Chad Ochocinco and Albert Haynesworth might not be long for New England. One NFL executive familiar with the Patriots ways told me he believes one or both of the big name acquisitions will be cut before the season starts. The front office man thinks coach Bill Belichick will use the controversial players to help control and send a message to his locker room.

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 14, 2011 2:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Fine

Give me Ocho. He’s actually a good guy. Just a bit of a nut. Unlike Owens who’s a jerk.

by Since79 on Aug 14, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Chad too

never really been in trouble with the law and is a great presence on the practice field. Remember, the 49ers were one of the three teams that got permission to seek a trade for him.

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 14, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Owens...

How is Owens a “jerk”?

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea I don't get that either

The dude has matured a great deal over the last couple seasons and would be a good presence for the 49ers

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 14, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe dancing on the Dallas Star

while it was cool, you have to admit it’s a jerk move.

Maybe he’s matured since then, I haven’t been keeping up with him.

by brundylop on Aug 14, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Owens runs his mouth to the detriment of his team.

How about when he came up with the idea that Romo and Witten were freezing him out of the passing game? He has had problems with every QB that he has ever played with.

Maybe he has matured in his later years, but he hasn’t shown it to me.

by Dukeston1 on Aug 14, 2011 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought that was a crappy article

However I could see Belichick cutting loose Haynesworth if he pulls a stunt like he did in DC. As long as they keep their mouth shut and do what they are supposed to, they aren’t going anywhere.

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by jonesin25 on Aug 14, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

sweet lets get OCHo

that way maybe we have a #1 reciever between suspensions….

by thatguywiththebeardandthebanjo on Aug 15, 2011 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not a fan of this guy

but, do the 49ers now take a look at Pryor in the supplemental draft on Wednesday? Could he be worth a 6th or a 7th? My short answer, NO!

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 14, 2011 2:47 PM PDT reply actions  

is he eligible?

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meeting with the Commish tomorrow

My bet is that he will be made eligible

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 14, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Curious... name 2 offensive and 2 defensive players from last year team

you hope don’t make this year team….and, do you think any of them could be traded, even if only for a 7th round pick?

by BigMar on Aug 14, 2011 2:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Offense: Moran Norris and Ted Ginn

Defense: Tarell Brown and Parys Haralson.

The two on offense will have ABSOLUTELY no trade value. Brown and Haralson? maybe

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 14, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Once the again the 49ers F.O. proves they are the NFL worst at managing the QB position

They could have signed a viable vet backup a few weeks ago at free agency opening. No, they told everyone they were set with Alex Smith, a raw 2nd round pick and a couple UDFA … one they initially brought in to play RB. A week into preseason they are scrambling to pick the absolute bottom of the barrel. These guys have been [site decorum] clueless for 7 [site decorum] years. Every [site decorum] season they are the monkey screwing [site decorum] football when it comes [site decorum] QB management.

Just like …

Signing David Carr and trading Shaun Hill cause the best way to developed a floundering starting QB is to trade the only viable competition away.

Picking Nate Davis and having a coaching staff with zero willingness to even try to develop him.

Turning to JTO because nothing else is left and the team needs [site decorum] miracle.

Forced turning back to Alex year after [site decorum] year because they have done nothing to put anything else in the queue or explore any other option. In 7 season they drafted Nate Davis (6th round) and Kaepernick just last year. They have never brought in a viable backup to compete despite constant terrible QB play. When one emerged they traded him cause their starting QB always looked terrible in camp and didn’t want the controversy. It’s the same dumb [site decorum] plan every [site decorum] season where they put themselves behind the eight ball, get flushed, have no other options but get their heads kicked in than start the plan back up next season.

Jerry Jones and Quincy Carter fiasco was a [site decorum] embarrassment but the 49ers now have that beat. Jones didn’t end up in the same quagmire for 7 seasons in a row.

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by bignerd on Aug 14, 2011 2:49 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

They won't sign him

I doubt they even brought him in for a workout.

by Ougadas on Aug 14, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Several reasons

First of all he’s washed up, and provides no upgrade over Alex Smith as a starter — and is in fact at this point in his career, a downgrade.

Second, we’ve been a frequent mark for guys trying to work up some value by whispering rumors.

Third, doing this immediately after this first pre-season game would be an action that contradicts what Harbaugh and company have been saying about our QB situation.

Fourth, what value does he have as a 3rd string backup? With his injury history and age he might not last a game, and then we get to start Andy Lee.

It doesn’t make sense from any angle once you really think about it, that’s why I doubt it.

by Ougadas on Aug 14, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Without hearing evidence from the horses mouth

it’s hard to say what is truth and what is not. That’s the main reason I asked “why”.

3rd string QB’s rarely make it in a game anyway. I don’t think Masoli and or McBLT have much to offer in the way of helping a rookie develop. Not sayin’ Culpepper is the right guy for that but maybe the Baalke and company do.

You cannot just assume they don’t have some kind of interest. To what level may be another story. But there’s prob at least a hint of truth to the rumor.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

consider the fact that neither Masoli or McBLT got in the game for even a second. What other teams did not play their emergency QB? I am pretty sure every team in preseason week one played their emergency QB’s… in some cases even got to the 4th QB.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why would we?

We need to see what we have in Kap, not Masoli or McBLT.

We have the QB Guru himself as our head coach. Why the hell would we need Culpepper to help Kap develop? Develop what? A chunky disposition?

Too many people believe everything they see in print without questioning it.

I’m not saying I know it’s not true. I’m saying until I see proof I doubt it’s more than a BS rumor that only caught fire because “Hey he’s a QB and the 49ers have a rookie, Smith, and some guy named Masoli”. The same way we were heavily linked to every single CB on the market in FA.

by Ougadas on Aug 14, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not saying I don't doubt it some...

simply pointing out you cannot discount their interest because it is a “rumor”.

Different ways of looking at it.

Side note:

We need to see what we have in Kap, not Masoli or McBLT.

Okay, so but, then why do other teams that need to see their rookie QB’s play their emergency QB’s in the first preseason game?

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

But you are already assuming interest exists

With no word from the front office, no Culpepper sightings in SF, no press releases, there is no interest — just a rumor that has not yet been confirmed or denied.

A rumor from Mike Florio.

The guy who once broke the rumor that Terry Bradshaw had died in a car accident.

by Ougadas on Aug 14, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is a a Florio report?

Oh god, maybe I have to take it all back.

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by bignerd on Aug 14, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Florio

I suppose everything in the history of his career has been false?

Why would the front office say anything until something was finalized? That’s a hollow point you’re trying to make there and is not relative to the situation.

Look, I get it…you are going the route of I will believe it when I see it… and I am going the route of there’s probably some truth to the rumor route or nothing would have been mentioned ANYWHERE… okay.

That’s fine.

We have different ways of looking at it.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

The stuff he rips off the newswire and re-publishes as his own usually has much more solid reporting behind it. So not everything he posts is crap.

I just don’t trust a guy who has a history of making stuff up, especially when it concerns his most favorite player of all time.

Can’t remember if it was last year or the year before he said the same thing about Favre and the Redskins.

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by Ougadas on Aug 14, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

link
The 49ers are scheduled to work out Culpepper on Monday, according to multiple reports. On Saturday, Harbaugh said bringing in a veteran backup quarterback was a “possibility.” The 49ers would go that route, if the right player were available, Harbaugh said.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/08/14/11/Report-49ers-set-up-workout-with-Culpepp/l_49ers.html?blockID=548860&feedID=5936&qv=1#bp

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

They could have signed a viable vet backup a few weeks ago at free agency opening.

Who?

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

..

anyone but alex, they could have also traded for someone.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure they could have done better than McBLT (90th rated QB prospect), Masoli who they projected at RB and a Dante Culpepper tryout.

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by bignerd on Aug 14, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm speaking in terms of needing a viable 2nd or 3rd QB.

They are calling the need a “Vet QB” but it’s a little too late to go shopping.

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by bignerd on Aug 14, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Quagmire said it best

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cliff Notes

Plan A: Alex Smith
No Plan B, Plan C or Plan D.

This organization has been clueless.

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by bignerd on Aug 14, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with you completely about how horribly they have managed the QB position since 2005, but I don’t agree that this offseason is as much of a sign of those same things. Drafting Kaepernick in the second round is a pretty big move, and a clear admission that things need to change. Bringing Alex back was just having to reap what they’ve sowed for so long. In an offseason when the choices are something like Alex Smith, Matt Hasselbeck, Tarvaris Jackson, Donovan McNabb, Derek Anderson, and Kevin Kolb… well, it’s not clear that Alex isn’t simply the best of those choices. The fact that they didn’t have a better choice in-house speaks more to previous years than this one. And working out Culpepper is, well, it’s a workout. It’s pretty meaningless.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Depth Chart

1 – Alex Smith
2 – Colin Kaepernick
3 – Daunte Culpepper (Emergency situation only)

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better than

their current #3 QB options. Am I wrong.

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 14, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Freaking out over an emergency quarterback is one of my favorite American pastimes.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

The 49ers have had a great off-season

I don’t get that aspect of the comment to be honest. Edwards, Whitner, Rogers, Goodwin etc..

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 14, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

trent edwards?

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Is in silver and black.

Aldon Smith gets to hit him next week.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

We should have added him, he at least is more accurate than Alex.

Pre Snap reads, if Smith doesn't get better at it, we made a HUGE mistake!!!

by rlott#42 on Aug 14, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe in 2008 and 2009.

Not now… he had 53% rate as a back up last year.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

They still screwed up part of it again.

Like realizing they need a viable vet QB after the start of preseason after the market has been picked through.

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by bignerd on Aug 14, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

If screwing up the emergency quarterback is the least of the problems that come out of this offseason, I’m going to be pretty happy.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I doubt they are looking for an emergency QB per say

I think maybe it just dawned on them they might have the need more options than just Alex and Kaep given inexperience, level of play, the offensive line and young receivers who can’t take the pressure off.

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by bignerd on Aug 14, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d be shocked if this workout were their honest response to having something like that dawn on them. If they were honestly concerned about having somebody who they expect to see in regular season games, I think they’d be on the phones with other teams asking about active players instead of working out somebody who played himself out of the league more than a year ago.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Either that or working out Chris Weinke.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was a joke.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Or working out trade scenarios… something besides Culpepper.

Anyhow, I mentioned this above, I really doubt Harbaugh is going to let 15 minutes of a preseason game (with little time to prepare) change his perspective much on the hours and hours of film he watched in the lab breaking Smith down and dissecting his game while the lockout was in effect.

He obviously saw something there.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

There was nothing about that preseason game that sent any red flags that the past 6 years hadn’t.

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by jonesin25 on Aug 14, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with this.

To get a qb like Kolb we would have had to give up quite a bit. And the money he would have received would have taken away from our free agent signings. Maybe we dont have enough money to sign any of the secondary help(Rogers, Whitner, and Williams)? I think our secondary was just as important in the overall scheme of improvement as a new qb.

by Dukeston1 on Aug 14, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I rather just bite the bullet this year and see what kaepernick can do. smith does what he has done just put in kaepernick.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

People are misunderstanding this move.

This isn’t a panic move. This isn’t a “oh my god Friday was awful anyone but Alex” move.

This is a “Alex is our guy. CK is our hope for the future. Let’s fill that third spot with someone who we can trust to be a professional and we don’t have to worry about, so we can focus on coaching and work on the two guys who’ll actually play.”

by Ronaldinho on Aug 14, 2011 3:03 PM PDT reply actions  

so we can focus on coaching and work on the two guys who’ll actually play."

I don’t think Masoli and McBLT are going to get in the way of that honestly.

But anyway, I get the rest of your point.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, let's say Smith gets hurt.

And one of those guys is your #3. And CK isn’t ready.

You don’t want to throw CK in there too early, just because the guy ahead of him got hurt. You want to stick with the schedule. But with those guys as your #3, you can’t say, “Well, CK isn’t ready!” – he’s as ready as those guys are!

So instead what they do is pencil Culpepper in at #2. This means if Smith gets hurt or sucks worse than expected, they don’t feel anywhere near as much pressure to bring in CK if they don’t think he’s ready yet.

by Ronaldinho on Aug 14, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait.

If CK is #2, then he would go in the game. You don’t put a guy #2 on the depth chart and if your #1 goes down move him to #2… because what you’re really saying there is he is #3.

If Culpepper is brought in it won’t be to be the #2 for a few weeks. It will be to be the #2 the entire season. And if they do that, then they are saying they don’t have much, if any faith in Kaepernick.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

meant to read:
If CK is #2, then he would go in the game. You don’t put a guy #2 on the depth chart and if your #1 goes down move him to #2 behind your #3… because what you’re really saying there is he is #3.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

is that not what they did last year with david carr and nate davis and troy smith?

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not the same situation.

Nor is it normal practice.

Singletary.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol, nor is it normal to keep a guy who has not succeeded at qb for seven years competing for the starter spot. only thing that is normal for the niners at the qb spot is not being normal.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think with rookie potential QBOTF, you mess with the order a little.

I think if you’ve got a rookie, you really want the ability to pick your spots with him.

It totally makes sense to me to have CK be the #2 guy in training camp and the preseason – so he gets more reps with and against better players, to foster his development – and then drop him to #3 during the regular season until he shows a bit more in practice.

Grooming a potential QBOTF changes the way you handle things. Alex Smith was thrown in before he was ready because the guy ahead of him got hurt. Maybe it wouldn’t have made any difference anyway – but it’s nice to have the option, right?

by Ronaldinho on Aug 14, 2011 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Maybe Kaepernick is able to get on the field at the right times and makes it clear he is ready. If not, you’re #2 is still a vet or an young guy on a good trajectory. I actually didn’t believe they would overpay Alex Smith (they likely did), and spending vet money on Culpepper or Bulger perhaps is viable but limits options. Might as well get the same play from someone else. Like it or not, Alex Smith is vet on the team.**

  • I believe there is an increased likelihood Alex Smith is cut if a vet is brought in. If pre-week 2 is similar, that’s the time to do it. The o-line excuse only goes so far, and some of sacks are just not having the instincts to move to safety or get rid of it with the right type of trust in a receiver.

by asmithisaverage on Aug 14, 2011 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Again my issue

After the 1st Week of Preseason isn’t the best time to address that need. Should have had that figured out at the start of camp.

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by bignerd on Aug 14, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

What if?

CK ends up winning the job?. Alex becomes the back up then there’s no more need for an experienced back up. I believe Harbaugh is going to start Kaep if he thinks he has a better chance of winning.

by Jaxson876 on Aug 14, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I'm not so sure.

As I just wrote above, you’ve got to ask yourself: let’s suppose that they’ve decided CK isn’t likely to be ready for mop-up duty or, if Smith gets hurt, to start early in the season. Did they know that three weeks ago? No. Might have been able to make an educated guess, but how much worse is DC than the guy they could have gotten for cheap three weeks ago?

by Ronaldinho on Aug 14, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

But it easier to bring in the vet at the beginning of camp and cut them if the young QB looks promising. It is more difficult to bring the Vet in late and hope he can be counted on despite no training camp. You know who did this last season, Singletary.

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by bignerd on Aug 14, 2011 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Start of camp was not even two weeks ago.

There will still be a lot of shuffling around when guys start getting cut, etc. There are still a bunch of FA’s out there too.

It’s really not that big a deal as HTS alluded to for an emergency QB. Players like Ryan Mallett may not even have a home if Hoyer beats him out. Or vice versa. Some teams will only carry the min of 2 QB’s. So there will be a lot more available.

To jump on a contract with Culpepper would not be very wise considering that there actually may be better options available to us come week 4. Your emergency QB most likely is not going to get in the game anytime soon, so he has time to learn the playbook and whatnot.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Masoli

Any chance they are trying to bring in a 3rd string QB to solidify that position and give Masoli a chance to compete at RB? Boobie and Hunter were both hesitant at times.

by Mukkeluk on Aug 14, 2011 3:30 PM PDT reply actions  

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by Edggy on Aug 14, 2011 3:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Pep

Can absolutely help this team. He was blacklisted not because of his ability. He is better than Smith 10 years from now.

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Read rite above your comment ...!!

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by Edggy on Aug 14, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

This freakout is kinda amusing

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by doubleteapot on Aug 14, 2011 4:09 PM PDT reply actions  

OH MY GOD CULPEPPER WILL START OVER ALEX AND CAP

I really don’t understand why people are freaking out.

by brundylop on Aug 14, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

THIS ISNT PANIC

its simply looking to bring in a vet qb for an emergency 3rd qb. He won’t see a down as long as their is a healthy qb in front of him. That’s as far as his value goes, and I’m sure they are not looking for him to he anything else.

by BY97ismyhero on Aug 14, 2011 4:11 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

My take on Culpepper

I went to a Mountain Lions game last fall here in Sacramento (I actually went cuz I wanted to see Jeff Garcia more than my local Sacramento team, haha). I’ve also watched a few games on TV. Culpepper is the same as always. He throws a nice deep ball, holds on to the ball too long, runs around (less effectively than before), and has minimal ability to read defenses and throw accurate short passes. Same ol’ same ol’.

The good news is he still has decent tools, has experience, and has his most experience in Denny Green’s version of the WCO. Yes, I know that isn’t a true WCO, but the terminology is the same, even if the philosophy is altered to be more traditional (vertical attack vs. horizontal). The learning curve would be short.

I’m not even sure Culpepper would be more than the #3 QB, but he wouldn’t be a train wreck like many rookies.

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by Effage on Aug 14, 2011 4:19 PM PDT reply actions  

NO

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by Pat Willie on Aug 14, 2011 4:39 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

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by bignerd on Aug 14, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

TROY SMITH

I would bring back Troy over anybody out there as he can bring us to the plus side of 500 ball for the year if he was to be tabbed to start at QB on opening day. He would have to come in right now as I feel he has a solid touch on the quick wr screen, the C-Tree’s bread and butter play, also he has a very crisp short game and can air it if needed. I would cut free of Alex, make Kap “In The Mix” Nick #2 QB and keep Jeremiah “Where’s The Oil” Masoli as our #3 QB and also have him playing other positions as this kid is a real deal dead on FOOTBALL PLAYER that can help us in so many ways.

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by BEETLE49715 on Aug 14, 2011 5:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Jesus Christ

Troy was on the winning team against horrible teams. The 5 games we went 0-5 were against quality teams and Seattle at Quest. Go back to elementary level logic classes

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by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 14, 2011 5:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

you could have just said that troy smith is not very accurate of a qb.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

You think he actually wants to come here after seeing our QBs taking a beating?

It would be pretty damn funny, Culpepper > Carr tho.

I really hope they explore other options…but

I can’t speak for Culpepper, but Alex gets the starting advantage because he has the best chance of knowing the offense, not necessary the execution, but at least the knowledge.

We definitely need another QB on the roster, a big body that can take a beating, cuz o-line might get someone killed. We got Braylon for a loaded 1M contract (3.5M with incentives…i think? ), A min investment, experience, and better than Carr…..doesn’t sound so bad.

by jvosh on Aug 14, 2011 5:56 PM PDT reply actions  

This move is for 2nd on the depth chart, do not let Kapernick play, we can’t get in the playoffs anyway.

Pre Snap reads, if Smith doesn't get better at it, we made a HUGE mistake!!!

by rlott#42 on Aug 14, 2011 6:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Again, it’s not a move. It’s a workout. They haven’t even loaded the program they write contracts on yet. Whoever is responsible for that has Free Cell up on his computer right now.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2011 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

If the Niners are going to pull this ish...

Why’d they get rid of David Carr? Main question, I guess, is does Daunte Culpepper make the team better or worse? I don’t really have an answer for that.

by smathis on Aug 14, 2011 6:41 PM PDT reply actions  

david carr should retire already, carr was only brought in to make alex smith look like a pro-bowler compared to carr.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

"does Daunte Culpepper make the team better or worse?"

Harbaugh’s job to do that!!

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by AzNiner on Aug 14, 2011 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

they should just trade for

ryan mallet from the pats or flynn from the pack

by Jose Prince on Aug 14, 2011 6:44 PM PDT reply actions  

you mean they should have drafted ryan mallett and drafted colt mccoy last year instead of taylor mays.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

easy to say that now...

…everyone was jocking the Mays pick last year

by salary_cap on Aug 14, 2011 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like mays though and was just replying to the post above.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Mays too

but I guess we’re wrong cause the niners can’t wait to unload him…and nobody wants him…ouch…

by salary_cap on Aug 14, 2011 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

time will show that we are both right.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

So this guy is an amazing safety

and the niners don’t want him to see the field and no other team wants to give up anything of value to get him? Hmmmm….

by salary_cap on Aug 14, 2011 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

way too early to say that.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not to early to project QBs based on their skill set as it

translates to the NFL. Kap would have been the last QB I would have looked at, let alone in the 2ND ROUND! I thought Mallet was a 1st-2nd round pick, and though Kap was a jock-strap carrier, at best.

But, of course, only time will tell.

by salary_cap on Aug 14, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

but I think harbaugh values mobility from the qb position very high. mallett was the least mobile qb. Kaepernick was probably either the second or tied for 2nd as far as qb mobility is concerned.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I won't disagree with you when you say that

Harbaugh liked Kap, if not loved him. For the reasons you cite, I’m not so sure. The point is I think it was a mistake, but I also think it was a move partly made out of desperation. The niners felt they NEEDED to draft a QB, so when they found the one they wanted, they felt they had to get him.

I don’t know what people see, or even potentially see in Kap. He’s got a canon arm. Sweet. So did Jim Druckenmiller and JaMarcus Russell. Having a canon is about the 19th most important quality in a QB. He’s just got to be able to make all the throws. How many 50 yard bombs are thrown in the NFL? Claiming Kap is a “project” is a copout for acknowledging just how awkward he looks in the pocket as a thrower. He can’t throw well on the run; that isn’t his strength, so the value of his mobility is minimal.

by salary_cap on Aug 14, 2011 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

niners could have had almost any qb in this draft with exception of newton and they also could have traded for orton or kolb or even that guy that just retired in cincy. I do not think they drafted Kaepernick out of desperation. Kaepernick does throw well on the run, that is actually one of his strengths he can even roll to his left and throw deep balls at the same time which is hard to do.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

They didn't draft Kap out of desperation

they drafted a QB out of desperation. And they picked a terrible one in my estimation. They could have gotten many other veteran QBs (and I’m saying they should have), but they decided not to, and that may turn out to be a mistake. If this team proves it has what it takes to win the NFC West but falls short because they don’t have a competent and capable QB, Harbaugh and Baalke are on the hook for that one.

by salary_cap on Aug 14, 2011 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

with this line and in a wco offense mobility is required.

Montana, Young and Garcia were very mobile Qb’s.

by wtlichens on Aug 14, 2011 9:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Can you define what the West Coast Offense is?

Above average mobility is desired, but there is much more to it than that to be successful in any offensive scheme.

by salary_cap on Aug 14, 2011 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Harbaugh does have a track record of citing

QBs in the draft (cited by Sac Bee article), but to make such an assertion and simply chalking it up to “trusting” Harbaugh illuminates how little YOU know about evaluating QBs. You jock on Kap because he is a niner; you have no analysis as to why you think Harbaugh is correct in liking Kap. I can explain to you why I think Kap will be carrying clipboards and carrying around jock straps for his career, but you have nothing to offer because you know nothing of what you are talking about.

by salary_cap on Aug 14, 2011 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why?

Because he comes from a gimmicky offense? Because he has a strange wind up? Because he is too tall, too skinny?

Heard it all before.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 15, 2011 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

BS dude, I wanted the 49ers to draft Kaepernick before the draft.

The reason you are mistaken about him is because you cite things that are supposedly his weaknesses, but in fact they are the qualities that he is good at. Throwing on the run is in fact not a weakness, but probably his biggest strength, and you would know this if you watched any tape on him period. You say he looks awkward in the pocket, but I’d say he looks pretty damn poised for someone who was seldom in the pocket in college. Having a strong arm isn’t only beneficial for 50-yard bombs; I would say that Colin is most inconsistent with those throws. From what I have seen, I would say he is most consistent with the short to intermediate throws, and needs to work on the long bombs.

by SanFranciscoKnights on Aug 15, 2011 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

There is nothing consistent about anything

Kap does. As I said before, a rocket arm is not very important; making all the throws is. Even once, and if, he begins to understand reading defenses and all that comes with being an NFL QB, nothing about his tools — his accuracy, his touch, his pocket awareness — in my view, suggests anything resembling a franchise QB.

And these things you brought up weren’t stated in your earlier post; you just chalked it up to “trusting Harbaugh” which I appropriately called a cop out.

by salary_cap on Aug 15, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

actually

I saw him make a pretty sweet throw on the run in camp a week and a half ago. It remains to be seen if he can do it consistently, but it was as good a throw as you’ll ever see on the run.

by David Fucillo on Aug 15, 2011 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

doing something well in practice is a start

but consider me unimpressed by that. There were better options at QB in the draft and free agency. Time will tell though.

by salary_cap on Aug 15, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mallett may not even be in N.E.

They are only keeping 2 QB’s. Hoyer is listed as #2 right now.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

that would be a great pickup if they cut him.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

..
Eric_Branch #49ers OL Adam Snyder said lack of communication was the line’s downfall against the Saints.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 6:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Which is no real surprise, considering what’s going on at center right now.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 14, 2011 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it was a secret lol

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha this rumour is absolute garbage....

the 49ers have zero interest in a washed-up overweight QB to carry the headphones let
alone be their 3rd string. I’d rather let the preseason play out and see if Harbaugh decides to play J-Mas or McBLT and see how they hold up, if there is any potential or upside, then sign Culpepper who we all know is straight up awful…time to move on….

by ratumike on Aug 14, 2011 7:04 PM PDT reply actions  

not quite
the 49ers have zero interest in a washed-up overweight QB to carry the headphones let alone be their 3rd string.

They’re bringing him in for a workout. That would indicate more than zero interest.

by David Fucillo on Aug 14, 2011 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

who is the source?

unqualifying the source means the reporter is leveraging his skills to get the ‘hot story’ but isn’t accountable for the downside should it turn out to be an outright lie…

by ratumike on Aug 14, 2011 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Harbaugh

Jim Harbaugh confirmed it after practice today. He said they’re bringing him in “to kick the tires.” Not saying they’re gonna sign him, but there is obviously at least some level of interest.

by David Fucillo on Aug 14, 2011 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

anonymous sources

It’s smart to take anonymous sources with a grain of salt, but at the same time they’re the life blood of journalism. People have their issues with Florio and there are good reasons for it. But to more generally call BS on anonymous sources is a bit too broad.

by David Fucillo on Aug 14, 2011 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

harbaugh said that?

yep, he did. i stand corrected. we’ll see what happens. I’m happy to generally call BS on
anonymous sources. Setting a personal standard for the level of reportage you’re willing to entertain allows you to not jump up and down everytime someone gets linked to the team. If they make a move, great, if they don’t then no problem. But i’m not gonna start accomodating anonymous sources because they’re the so-called life-blood. Good lookin’ out though…

by ratumike on Aug 14, 2011 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

anonymous sources

You do realize virtually every story reported by Adam Schefter, Chris Mortensen, John Clayton, etc. is through an anonymous source, right? They refer to “league sources” but it’s still anonymous.

by David Fucillo on Aug 14, 2011 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Although

If everything that is said about him is true, he could very well be in the “interim” process of finding a new job.

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

No thank you...

What is wrong the 49ers? They re-sign a guy out of desperation, now are looking for possible answers in Dante Culpepper as a 3rd stringer? What will he do? I rather have JaMarcus Russell, seriously. I’m not interested in this at all.

by salary_cap on Aug 14, 2011 7:06 PM PDT reply actions  

JaMarcus?

I am not even sure I want Harbaugh smelling his breath…. that drank aint gonna make you think…

by thatguywiththebeardandthebanjo on Aug 14, 2011 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Putting Culpepper on the field

would be alot like saying, “we don’t really need a quarterback, it’s not an important position, it’s just one of the eleven guys that make up the offense.”

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by Pat Willie on Aug 14, 2011 7:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Quarterback position

Trent Dilfer was the QB for the Ravens when they won the Super Bowl and he could just barely manage the game. QB is important, but the team is not saying it isn’t important by bringing in a veteran to help out a little bit. I’d rather have Culpepper as a 3rd QB than Masoli (who should be a running back) or McBT (who I watched in college at Sac State and was pretty much awful).

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by LincecumFTK on Aug 14, 2011 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alex Smith is going to be the 'niners starting QB whether folks like it or not

So much speculation and over-reaction here and elsewhere. A few beat writers took Harbaugh’s answer to a question that was designed to create a headline and ran with it – reporter: “you said earlier Smith was likely to be your starter… is that still true?” Harbaugh: “yes, (but)… it hasn’t had a chance to be clear cut yet”…. headline: “QB competition rages!!!” I don’t have any investment in A Smith, don’t love him or hate him, I just think it’s so clear he’s getting the nod so all the speculation is a waste of time. Any veteran QB they bring in is a back-up. Culpepper, if he were the guy, would be insurance. Nothing more. Friday was on the O-line, and the QBs second. Should Smith AND Kaep have found a way to burn the blitzing thrown at them? sure. Was that something we as fans should expect them to be able to do easily after six/twelve days in a new system? Opinions vary, but I don’t think so.

And the more I think about the Saints blitzing, the more pissed I get. I talked to two friends who work on-air at NFL Net, and both told me the opinion among many is that it was a dick move. To paraphrase Hardballs, are they allowed to do that? yes. but does that make it a move the rest of the league thinks is right? Absolutely not. Apparently the overwhelming opinion is that was “beyond uncool”. so there it is. fair, sure. cool? absolutely not.

by mwright84 on Aug 14, 2011 7:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Caunte Culpernick

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by Drew Kerr on Aug 14, 2011 8:14 PM PDT reply actions  

lol

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

...If he can play RG

Maybe bring in JaMarcus Russell for a look at RT?

We know our QB situation isn’t the best but our OLine looked lost out there.

by masa11284 on Aug 14, 2011 8:38 PM PDT reply actions  

some of the sacks were from the te’s or rb’s not blocking or messing up on their assignments.

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 14, 2011 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Time to bust out the ol' Alex Smith Hatin' Containment threads again

.. I’m amazed it took as long as 7 whole passes before it became necessary again.

Over

by cybermaldonado on Aug 14, 2011 10:29 PM PDT reply actions  

yea...

I’ve got a post tomorrow about his very first pass. I had to include a paragraph disclaimer since it comes across as jumping to conclusions.

by David Fucillo on Aug 14, 2011 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I m amazed that it is still a subject at this time....

and no hate. The best thing for this team would be Alex starting as the #1…

by thatguywiththebeardandthebanjo on Aug 14, 2011 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m surprised the potential signing of a 3rd string QB got this many posts.

by downsos on Aug 14, 2011 11:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Until we have a clear #1 its gonna be that way

especially on THE TEAM that brought the west coast to existance and is now trying to own that again… QB will always be a contreversy until we find our man… I am worried he isnt on the roster yet… I hope Kaep proves me wrong

by thatguywiththebeardandthebanjo on Aug 14, 2011 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would make more sense to sign McNabb, or even Jeff Garcia

Signing Culpepper would be on a par with the decision to sign David Carr last season: paying good money for someone who is well past their prime. Dante is the archetype for flash-in-the-pan QBs who look great for a couple of seasons and then disappear as rapidly as they rose to prominence.

If you are going to sign a Veteran, it should be someone who is still able to take over the No. 1 sport and perform better than A. Smith, otherwise, what’s the point? Look at the Eagles, they went and got Vince Young: a guy who can give Michael Vick a run for his money and can step into the No 1 spot if Vick goes down (I know Vince Young has baggage and so does Vick, but that didn’t deter the Eagles FO from making the best decisions for the franchise).. I’m afraid this team will never be able to make progress at QB until Smith moves on to another tea

by suffrin9erfan on Aug 15, 2011 12:00 AM PDT reply actions  

If you are going to sign a Veteran, it should be someone who is still able to take over the No. 1 sport and perform better than A. Smith, otherwise, what’s the point

Ding ding ding ding!!!!


Look at the Eagles, they went and got Vince Young: a guy who can give Michael Vick a run for his money and can step into the No 1 spot if Vick goes down

From clarity to nonsense in a matter of 2 seconds. VY can’t give a run of anything to Vick. Suitable backup, sure. Maybe you misphrased your point by saying VY is a comparable player to Vick.

by salary_cap on Aug 15, 2011 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Vince Young can still flat-out ball: watch him in the pre-season. Most of his problems with the Titans were down to his dysfunctional relationship with Jeff Fischer.

by suffrin9erfan on Aug 15, 2011 4:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't doubt VY underachieved in Tenn, but WOW.
Vince Young can still flat-out ball

VY could never “flat out ball” which was always a problem. He won himself millions of dollars with his performance in the Rose Bowl against USC, blinding talent evaluators to the reality that he is a supremely poor thrower, and the most valuable asset he exploited in college — his mobility — is not so much an option in the NFL.

I agree, however, it was a good pickup to get him as their no. 2. I personally wouldn’t sign a spoiled pansy like VY, but that is just me.

by salary_cap on Aug 15, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good points...

As for VY being better than Vick, I don’t think suffrin was saying that, but VY and Vick both are running type of QBs. If nothing else.. Vick goes down.. VY can get in and keep the ship sailing straight-ish. The rest of the team will follow a scrambling qb after Voick, rather then having to change a ton of stuff for a backup that is a pocket passer only.

by D.P on Aug 15, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

it has less to do with whether the two QBs

have similar styles (and, actually, Vick can actually throw in the pocket, VY cannot) than how competent VY can be in Vick’s absence. It’s really not more complicated than that. Them playing “similar styles” is ambiguous and all that important.

by salary_cap on Aug 15, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Question....

Did it seem really uncool to anyone else that the Saints blitzed as much as they did in game 1 of a preseason after a shortened training camp against a team with a new coach and new playbook? I felt that the Saints were kind of jerks for doing that. They could have just straight up played Defense and let Harbaugh see how his team is doing… Our O-Line looked horrendous, but the blitzing was a bit over the top I thought….

Harbaugh definitely got his butt handed to him as well here. Was this maybe a Welcome to the NFL from Sean Peyton?

by D.P on Aug 15, 2011 10:03 AM PDT reply actions  

HIM HARBAUGH

(first paragraph). Awesome sauce.

I hail from New Sanfranadelphia, apparently.

by Ranger10 on Aug 15, 2011 10:33 PM PDT reply actions  

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