49ers 53-Man Roster: Any Sleeper Candidates?
by David Fucillo on Aug 16, 2011 12:00 PM PDT
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PrintAs the 49ers prepare for this weekend's game against the Raiders, the team has a majority of the 53-man roster in place. The question now is whether any sleepers can slide in to one of the final spots. In assessing the 49ers roster, I'd argue a guy like Ian Williams is not really a sleeper at this point. He may not make the roster, but he's probably got a fairly legit chance to make the team.
An example of a roster sleeper would be a guy like defensive end Demarcus Dobbs. He came into the Saints game in the second quarter and recorded four tackles including one for a loss. He's more sleeper than serious candidate because he's sitting as the third string right defensive end behind Justin Smith and Will Tukuafu. Smith is an absolute work horse, which means the team might be less inclined to carry too many defensive ends. Dobbs chances could depend in part on how confident the team is with Ray McDonald and where Isaac Sopoaga's injury situation leaves him and Ricky Jean-Francois.
On the offensive side of the ball, the biggest sleeper might be a guy like wide receiver Lance Long. He had a solid game against the Saints and will be looking to build on that this weekend. The problem is the 49ers have a whole lot of wide receivers ahead of him on the depth chart. However, if he can do good things on special teams and keep hauling in passes, maybe he surprises us and makes the roster.
Do you have any particular sleepers you're keeping an eye on heading into week two?
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How many d-linemen do teams usually hold onto?
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Soap, Mcdonald, Smith
Williams, RJF, Tukuafu
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Tukafu did not look too good. He better crank of the volume in the next few games.
We also have to consider all the cuts and PS guys that will be available on other teams. After watching that Saints game, it seems as though there might be a couple guys not making it there worth some consideration.
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Just from the Saints roster
Tom Johnson, Mitch King, and Dexter Larimore are all possibilities
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I think/hope that we keep 7 DL. My breakdown of a generic 53 man roster:
“D”: 7 DL, 9 LB, 9 DB: 25 total
“O”: 8 OL, 3 TE, 1 FB, 3 RB, 3 QB (if we can actually find a 3rd worth of keeping), 7 WR: 25 total
“ST”: 1 P, 1 PK, 1 LS: 3 total
25+25+3=53
Possibly only 6 DL and 9 OL (or 7 & 9 if we only keep 2 QBs, but I can’t envision that), or maybe 6 WR and 9 OL…. depends upon who “steps up”
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
Since the offense will use the TE so much.. I imagine only 6 WR.. there should be at least 4 CB and more than likely 5
but we also have a couple Safeties who will play on ST.
There is some play there for ST players to make the team
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More likely 6 DL, 8 LB and 11 DBs total...
And there’s no way this team holds on to 7 WR… 2 or 3 would be inactive every game…
I see 6 CBs making this roster… and 5 safeties…
Kyle Williams.
If Crabs can’t go for a while… or if Braylon gets suspended for any amount of time, I am looking at Kyle Williams.
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I’d say Kyle Williams is more a candidate than a sleeper, I’d be surprised if he didn’t make the roster after friday’s game.
No. He's making it.
I just meant a sleeper in terms of doing more than what people will expect.
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Also, I really like Long.
If he is eligible (which I don’t know if he is) will be a good PS candidate.
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What is the Practise Squad
criteria (seriously) other than the players own ability, what are the PS rules – how many players can be on it ?
You can keep 8 players on the practice squad
A player usually may not be kept on the practice squad for more than 2 years. There is an exemption for a 3rd year, but it’s complicated.
When putting a player on the practice squad they must go through the waiver wire. Anyone else wants to sign them to a 53 man roster, they can — following waiver wire rules.
While on the practice squad they are free to negotiate with any team. Any team may sign them to a 53 man without going through the waiver wire, but they may not do this within 6 days of playing your team, and must keep that player on their 53 man for 3 weeks (IIRC).
If you want to take them to your 53 man roster, they must again go through the waiver wire process. If nobody else with a worse previous year record claims them, you can then sign them.
No player with a year of “accrued seasons” or more may be placed on the practice squad.
You may sign a 9th player to the practice squad if they are an international player, but there are lots of restrictions on this, and I can’t remember a team actually doing it.
wow quite complicated really !!
thanks heaps for that.
I believe the CB Jenkins from Florida is worth the look.
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by afrikabamboodle on Aug 16, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Not sure if he's even in the supplemental draft but
my top 2 prospects that could have entered the s. draft would be Jenkins and Floyd from ND. I’m not sure where their current standing is though.
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by afrikabamboodle on Aug 16, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Nevermind.
Jenkins transferred to North Alabama for his senior season and Floyd is returning to ND.
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by afrikabamboodle on Aug 16, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Is Mike Adams (T OSU) eligible?
I’d say he’s the top prize in the Sup. Draft. (screw Pryor. The man has bust all over him)
Nocal gave him a top 5 pick if he goes back to OSU.
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by afrikabamboodle on Aug 16, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I've never been a big fan of Ohio State lineman.
Boone had a lot of potential with them but that’s the problem with OSU linemen typically is that it rarely ever amounts up.
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But he would be worth a 3rd.
I’d spend that on him and develop.
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Cory Nelms
He seems to have had a good camp and if we carry 5 CBs that 5th spot is wide open.
nelms would be a good sleeper pick
fits the mold of db’s that baalke likes.
I didn't know who he was before last week
but was impressed with his relentlessness. could be an overachiever and although he doesn’t fit the mold of the 3-4 DE he does fit the mold of a sleeper to me.
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+1
would be surprised at this point if he didn’t make it, was really surprised when he wasn’t drafted. I personally think it’s because he looks young and teams aren’t sure how much more (if at all) he’s going to develop physcially
I had him going in the 4th or 5th and thought he was a steal in the 6th and would taken in the 7th if all else failed. I guess that’s why I’m not a scout.
we'll see how he does and then I'll look into it
not ready to quit my job just yet
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The 49ers would be crazy to consider keeping only 2 quarterbacks after what we’ve seen from the pass protection so far. Alex gets injured alot and Kaepernick, who seems like he’s made of steel, still doesn’t really know much.
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I was going through the list of QB's of who may be cut
and it really looks horrible at this point. I think it is ride or die with Smith and Kaep this year. Unless they go out and get a guy like Delhomme or Simms… but that alone makes me cringe.
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You can easily pay off a house entirely in 3 years with that
This, of course, assuming you get a nice house. Plenty of stuff under 1 mil :P
Xavier Oman maybe?
I think Gore and Hunter are good but I’m still not sold on Dixon. He shows flashes but still dances way too much and his YPC is terrible. I think we may see Hunter overtake Dixon on this preseason and see Dixon and Oman battle for the third RB position. Anyway that’s my bold sleeper pick right or wrong :)
I think there’s a good chance Ginn Jr gets cut. The value he brings to the table is in the return game, which is almost all but nullified with the new kickoff rule. With his contract and Edwards, Crabtree, Morgan, Williams, Johnson, Long, and Zeigler…i think he gets cut. He can stretch the defense but then again so can Williams and Edwards.
Punt return
Was his strong suit, much better than kick return. I can see him being back for that reason. We have a few guys that have handles thise duties but none on Ginn’s level i believe.
by h0ckeysk83r on Aug 16, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
To be fair, nobody's gotten PR reps in games
other than Ginn last season.
Philip Adams did a few in the preseason but then messed up really badly in that MNF vs. The Saints. Williams got injured.
We’ll see how it shakes out this year
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He has hustle.
I saw him come back to probably save a TD with a tackle the other night on ST’s. Then there was that 17-yard grab.
With how poorly Ron Johnson played, the chances for guys like Lance Long and Kevin Jurovich may get better.
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dissapointed in RoJo
he’s got a lot of skill but isn’t consistent enough
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
He dropped some very catchable passes.
He looked good on punt returns though.
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Is there a potential roster cut list
league wide anywhere?
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
I'm confused about this article..what do you mean by
Ian Williams won’t make the roster but he’ll make the team? Unless you mean roster of sleepers we’re talking about.
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Williams
There’s always a chance he doesn’t make the team, but I also think he’s got a very good chance of making it as is. A guy like Dobbs would be a bit of a surprise making the roster.
by David Fucillo on Aug 16, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Would you put Miller as a sleeper.. in that Norris is the vet.. But Miller is a Harbaugh pick and has the potential to be like Marecic
FYI Ian Williams was rated by Walterfootball as a 5th rounder in their mock draft.. I hope he makes the team.
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