The 49ers Third Quarterback and Apathy
by WesHanson on Aug 18, 2011 12:00 PM PDT
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PrintSo, it looks like I am going to be the newest front page writer here at Niners Nation and I want to thank Fooch for the awesome opportunity. I have been a follower of the site for quite a long time now. I will even dare to comment here and there, though I admit that historically I have been more interested in reading what you guys have to say than word vomiting onto my keyboard (it's kind of messy).
As my username says, my name is Wes. I am a college student studying English and Classical Civilization. I played four years of football in high school and have been a 49ers fan since conception.
Follow me after the break and continue to read about my blessed life. And maybe something about football or something.
Here are a couple of people I just don't care about: Amanda McKittrick Ros and Pietro Campanora. Ros is the best worst writer ever - and while I find it amusing to read her horrid writing - in no way is she a profligate force in my consciousness. Pietro Camponora was also known as Pope John XIV. He was Pope for like the lifespan of a fly or something.
Wait. There was one more. And a point to his too. Oh yeah, Josh McCown.
Let's be reasonable, guys and gals. If we ever have to see the third string quarterback play in a Niners game, it's already a lost season. I won't presume to know your feelings, but watching David Carr try to shot-put a thirty pound football last year took a chainsaw to my warm and fuzzy feelings. The stuff of nightmares. The movie Requiem for a Dream could have ended with David Carr throwing passes and it would have still been the most depressing movie ever.
And, I don't mean if Alex gets hurt in the fourth quarter of some game and McCown gets the nod. Jim Harbaugh might just want to keep Colin Kaepernick safe until the end of the game and start thinking about next week. I'm talking both Kaepernick and Smith can't play. I don't really see a scenario in which Kaepernick is not the second string QB this season. If anything, I think it is more likely that Colin starts rather than having McCown leapfrog his way into a game. I mean, come on, playing leapfrog in pads just does not look feasible. Rather, the demarcations between Smith and Colin are growing more and more clear in practice; I imagine that if Alex goes down, Harbaugh is going to want to see what Kaepernick can do in an actual game for a few weeks. The idea that Colin will be the third-stringer this year is discordant hooey. Take my word for it. I've never been wrong about anything regarding football. (/casts evil eye at Shaun Hill).
But here's the thing about McCown, there's nothing to get excited about with this guy. He really is not that good. But neither is every single third quarterback in the history of ever. He's not going to come into practice, start whippin' the football around and compete for the starting job. He won't. He's going to sign with an NFL team for some money. That's it. If his name get's seriously thrown in the hat for a starting job, then that five-year contract with Harbaugh is going to look pretty darn long.
So, while it's fun to work ourselves up into some rabies induced Bacchanalian orgy of football angst over Dante Culpepper this and McCown that, we really need to realize that this is not about making our team better. There are no real effective ways at making your team better by signing a third quarterback, unless he is a good enough teacher that he can impart some righteous football slingin' wisdom on the youngins. We don't need that, remember? We have Harbaugh.
That's why Trent Baalke hired him. Harbaugh is our experienced QB. What about a young guy with upside, some jerk from the proverbial peanut gallery shouts. Well, why not have a young guy with upside? While that was super fun and productive with Nate Davis, we already have our guy with upside. His name is Colin Kaepernick. I want him to get all of the "upside" snaps in practice. In my opinion, Alex Smith is back to be a shield for Colin until he can step in at a time Harbaugh deems appropriate. There is no reason for Harbaugh to be splitting time between two upside QBs.
No, this move is not about making the team better. It's pretty much the same thing as wearing a helmet while driving a car. If you really need it, you're life is looking pretty bleak anyway. So, I preach apathy. This is a low cost signing to a guy was good in college when I was, like, two years old or something. That's not an argument for bringing him in. The argument is that he can stand up and throw a football. That's all you need in a third-string QB.
Don't get me wrong, I like a good freakout as much as the next guy, and when I had heard that the Niners were thinking about signing Culpepper I think my nose started bleeding out of my ears. And honestly, I think McCown might just be a bit better than Culpepper. I'm also a San Francisco Giants fan, so I am getting tired of washed up veterans. Sometimes watching the Giants play ball is like watching Hugh Hefner, Sean Connery, and Al Davis duke it out in a cage fight. Sure they had their heydays, but man they are old and should probably march off with their Depends and leave all us young people alone. (And for the record, Sean Connery would win that fight on the power of his voice alone).
But that's the thing about freakouts. Sometimes we just have to have a little perspective: Frank Gore is holding out of camp for more money? Hurry drive to the nearest store with glass display windows and throw things through them. Discussing the third QB on the roster? Just be numb to it all. That's somebody else's headache. I'm not saying don't talk about it. Only, remember how important he really is. Hint: he isn't.
Oh yeah, and if you bother to become Pope, you might try to live longer than nine months. You'll be doing history a solid.
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Welcome aboard...
Really well-written piece and different angle on things with sprinkles of good humor. Nice job for your firts front page post.
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new writers
For this new round of writers I went with guys with a bit more formal writing and/or journalism experience. Gives a new viewpoint and approach.
by David Fucillo on Aug 18, 2011 12:39 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
No worries there
You know when you’re cruising looking for a good article to read it’s nice when it’s more than just a few minutes of reading…
First, welcome to the FP staff
Good people here and they will lead you in the right direction.
Your point about seeing a 3rd stringer in for the Niners and it being a lost season is 100 percent correct. This could be said for every single team in the NFL.
If Scott Tolzien, San Diego’s 3rd string sees the light of day, the Chargers are also screwed. Same goes for pretty much every team in the NFL.
Fans overreact in circumstances like this and it takes level headed individuals to calm them down. McCown was signed to be the emergency quarterback and hold a clipboard; nothing more
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 18, 2011 12:28 PM PDT reply actions
he won't get to hold the clipboard
until he has earned it. Other than that, i agree.
He will have a clipboard but there won't be anything on it.
It’s just for drawing pictures n stuff if he gets bored
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he still could lose out to Masoli or McBLT
not likely, but possible. Then Masoli or McBLT will have a firm surface for their coloring book.
I would like to think that McCown’s clipboard is also decorated with shiny stickers of clowns and stuff.
Don't get me started on ICP
just started listening to them recently. Usually not my type of music,but some crazy stuff
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 18, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
The 3rd string QB always reminds me of Jaime Foxx in Any Given Sunday as Willie Beamon...
Only they’re almost never that good. Check that… they are NEVER that good.
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Vick?
Was 3rd string.. steamin like Willie!
by 9wa on Aug 18, 2011 10:08 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
That was just a ploy to ease him in "slowly" due to his situation.
Vick was never going to only be a back up there. They weren’t happy with McNabb and just needed be delicate with the Vick situation.
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ah yes Sean Connery, my favorite 007, The question is, is McCown better than Smith?
by PeterPlutonium on Aug 18, 2011 12:33 PM PDT reply actions
it has to be pierce
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs this season, hopefully! :)
Brozzers? Really
He was excellent in Golden Eye but the later ones were ok to bad. Sean is the top of the Bond ladder easily. Second place is where the argument gets heated
Interesting
that you call Alex Smith “Smith” and Colin Kaepernick “Colin”, even though we have more Smith’s on the team than Colin’s.
Trying to decide whether you like Smith or Kaepernick solely based on that fact. Does he use Smith’s last name because it’s more professional? Or is he using Colin’s first name because he feels more affection towards him?
These are the questions I ask during work time.
last name is standard, but do you know how easy it is to end up with a typo with kaepernick? then you get 20 comments on how you spelled the guy’s name wrong. Colin or CK is the prudent choice for fast writing.
I don't think Kaepernick is that hard to spell
You just have to get over the “ae” hump, everything else is pretty easy.
That said, it’s a LONG name to type, so Colin is easier than that.
Kaepernick
is much harder to pronounce than spell.
Cape-er-Nick? Cap-er-Nick? Ko-Per-Nick-us?
Congrats on learning Latin. I had a hard enough time with Spanish, and only the motivation of knowing it could be used in real life game me the extra umph to get through with it. Obivously it’s a little different with Latin
Thucydides or Herodotus?
essential to understanding your take on football.
Well these guys wrote in Greek, not Latin. If you want the big name Latinists, you’re looking at Cicero and Virgil. Historians? Livy is the way to go. Also Tacitus and Suetonius.
But yeah, I would say that having an understanding of Latin and Greek writers is essential for life, not just football. Maybe someday I will do a post on sports in the ancient world…
don't think it's hard to spell
just think it’s hard to catch a typo since there are a lot of reversible letter pairings, better off with shorter names
You know, I was actually battling with that a little bit. I think I refer to Alex Smith as Alex a couple of times, just not as much as Colin. Anywho, I’ve got to believe that pretty much any Niner’s fan likes Colin more than Alex. That doesn’t mean I think Colin should start, but he sure makes me feel way better.
Call it Stockholm Syndrome or something
But at this point I want Alex to succeed so badly that I kinda hope Kaep doesn’t do too well in camp just so Alex will have a shot at redeeming himself.
I was strangely disappointed when I read how well Kaep was doing in camp.
Ha! I think that was my feeling last season, but I have somehow kicked it this year. I’m just too excited about Colin.
I might have to invite you as a guest speaker
at the AA meeting (Alex Anonymous). I think it’s currently 2 members: me and Edggy…!!
this reminds me of the color commentators
During the saints game. He kept pronouncing ‘Colin’ as ‘colon’. I guess we know what he thinks of kaepernick. Freudian slip?
by BY97ismyhero on Aug 18, 2011 1:48 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
He also said All-Dawn instead of Aldon
Maybe he thinks Aldon will clean up the defense like dishwashing soap?
i'm with you
my friends dismiss my opinions on everything from women to politics purely because i still believe (pathetically hope) Alex could be good.
He's not terrible
despite what you hear…
For a #1? Definitely disappointing. But objectively bad? Not really.
We’ll see how it goes.
True , but my Anonymous status extends too many branches in recovery , but i am happy to add Alex Anonymous to that ever expanding club ...!!
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Oh, he does
I thought it was blank for some reason.
Wil Alex walk on it, though? That is the question.
Welcome aboard
I enjoyed your article…and any reference to the world’s most famous living Scotsman has to be a good thing
Welcome and a question
Do you remember Super Bowl XVI? The Catch? The comeback against New Orleans?
I ask because I believe those who have not experienced the glory years for themselves will have a much harder time understanding those of us who have, and are not willing to give certain bust quarterbacks “another chance” or fail to get worked up about possibly winning the division, not because the 49ers are a dominant team but because the rest of the division sucks worse.
I am a fan who wants the 49ers to be THE dominant team again, and frankly, nothing else will do. Hence my contempt for a certain bust quarterback.
Contempt for ownership goes without saying.
Superbowl XXIII. This is where I came from with the Niners.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iNeuKQyRCY
Loved this and still do.
I was the only niner fan at a party with a bunch of bengal fans, awesome!
Same here!
I was watching this game with a bunch of Midwesterners and Easterners and they HATED all things West Coast (California, 49ers, whatever).
I wasn’t a 49ers fan then, but I had to stand up for my peoples! This is the game that made me a 49ers fan. How could you NOT cheer for this team after this display of prowess?
(Full disclosure: I was a Cowboys fan growing up. So yeah, I was on the OTHER END of “The Catch”. So I actually hated the 49ers before this Super Bowl turned me around (and it didn’t hurt that the Cowboys were going through their 1-15 days either!))
I remember them in that I have watched them a few times on DVD. The only Niners SB I was alive for was in ‘95 and I was 5 years old. But don’t get me wrong, I want to see the Niners the most prestigious team in the league. I think we have one of if not the most rich franchise history to build off of and I want to see it continue. So while I would say that I don’t have contempt for a certain bust quarterback, I really only want him around to shield Colin so that Kaepernick can be the guy for the next decade (best scenario). If Alex plays well in the mean time, that’s only an added bonus.
QB of the future? How bout just a QB of the now...
Part of me still wants to see Smith become something but I’m not holding my breath.
As for CK, I liked him pre draft and was stoked that the Niners went after him, so ya totally hope he becomes the man, but either way as you said and I agree, I just want to see the Niners become “That” team again.
Sorry...
You cannot know how great it was. For most of your life, the team has been a laughingstock. Pretty hard to take seriously, the opinions of a guy barely old enough to drink.
Best of luck anyway.
so you have to be old to be taken seriously?
that should be irrelevant. If a lunatic says that the 49ers need to win more games is he wrong because he is a lunatic?
Not at all...
But the people who are in the “GIve Alice another chance” camp, all see to be wet behind the ears and have never seen good 49er football.
If you lived through the glory years as an adult (I have) you realize nothing short of total domination is good enough. Those who are young, seem to have lesser standards.
that's because we will never dominate like that again and some wins taste good.
You dined on the finest foods for years and are now eating a bologna sandwich. You know its garbage, but you crave your top food. Younger fans have eaten bologna sandwiches all their life and just want a taste of steak for once. Can’t blame that.
To think we will ever dominate like that again is only a wish and no other team has come close to that (even considering our arch rival early 90s Cowboys).
Don’t worry. We will all join hands and rejoice when Kaepernick becomes an all-pro.
You don't know we won't dominate like that again...look at the Patriots...
and for people to support Alice Smith after as long as he’s had to show something – ANYTHING, defies logic.
Even Steve Young, one of the most forgiving people alive, has seen enough of Alice. If Steve Young says the guy’s a bust. He’s a goddam bust. Why do you children keep supporting him? Is it because he’s one of you and you want to stick it to the old guys?
Kaepernick reminds me too much of Jim Druckenmiller (Yes, I know you’re too young to remember him). Better athletics but not a shred of touch on the ball. GO back and watch some of the Joe drives of the ‘80s. Look at the accuracy, look at the touch. Then go look at Aaron Rodgers from last year’s Super Bowl. Look at the accuracy, look at the touch. Look at Manning. Look at Brady. Look at the accuracy, look at the touch.
Kaep reminds me of a guitar player who can play 64 notes a measure but couldn’t play “Green )Onions” to save his life.
He reminds me of Elway. Yes, I’m old enough to know who that is. Strong, quick. Also strong baseball skills
by mcwagner on Aug 18, 2011 5:33 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
You can go away until the Niners draft a QB to your standards then.
Do us all a favor and consider it, eh?
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This is really stupid. And so is your post below. If you don’t take my opinions seriously, I don’t care. Don’t read anymore posts. I’m cool with that.
Oh, and if you walk past me and I stick my fingers in my ears, make loud and obnixious noises, and call you a “buttsniffer” over and over, I simply ask you to forgive me. I’m really, really young and impressionable. Put on a tape of Sesame Street or something and I will get distracted.
Wow, this might be
One of the dumbest most arrogant things I’ve ever read on this site.
Feel free to disagree with someone’s opinion all you want, but don’t personally render it obsolete because of when they were born…
Time to move on bro , seen all the great teams ( including some of the Broady days ) ...
… but you my friend seem to have no clue about how the game is played …!!
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I was AT the 'stick for the comeback vs. NO Game.
It was my 10th birthday present.
But I will no subscribe to your newsletter. Alex Smith? Sucks. But to put the flailings and horror of the last 15 years or so on him is somewhat ridiculous. The managment, coaching, and drafting of this team has been awful since Mooch and frankly Mooch wasn’t that great anyway. He did manage to have a couple 10 win seasons though. In fact, Smith aside, the 49ers have not had an above average defense for more than 2 years out of the last 11 (2009 and 2001 with 2002-2003 being essentially average)
So you can hold Alex Smith in comtempt all you want. Replacing him with Peyton Manning would bare make this team average.
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If you don't remember the Catch, Super Bowl XVI and the comeback against New Orleans...
I cannot take your opinions seriously. You are too young to truly understand how dominant the 49ers were and for how long. Thus, the hope of an 8-8 division championship and a playoff spot excites you.
For those of us who remember the great years, an 8-8 playoff spot is nothing short of humiliating. I mean, if you’re going to be humiliated, you might as well have it end with the regular season than having to live for a year with the fans of whatever team kicked the 49ers’ asses in the playoffs ragging you daily.
I lived near Dallas from late ‘82 to late ’85 and I can tell you, nothing was more fun than rubbing the noses of Cowboy fans in their team’s failures.
But an 8-8 “barely make the playoff” team? Yawn, I’ll watch but I won’t hesitate to point and laugh at the inadequacies of a certain bust of a quarterback.
Classic.
“Your opinions are invalid because we share different experiences and viewpoints.”
You know, there’s actually a guy with a great deal of power in the NFL right now who really embodies that persona…
"It came down like a punt, Coach!" - Josh Morgan
Huh?
Thus, the hope of an 8-8 division championship and a playoff spot excites you.
Not sure where you get the stones to start throwing around nonsense like THAT! Attitudes like that don’t lend themselves well to discussions like there often are on this site. Go back to insulting people on sfgate, thanks.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
"Old" people like you...
…are so amusing. You have lost the ability to be creative or fresh, so you vainly attempt to find delight in belittling those who still have it. You wax about “the good old days” because you have lost the ability to create good new ones. You peaked on the ‘hill of low expectations’ long ago, and having never accomplished or created, are creeping agonizingly down the hill to a forgotten oblivion. The only currency that remains in your soul is the trove of bitterness with which you can constantly draw forth complaints of the “sad state” of modern music, journalism, television, cinema, politics, or art; unable to realize the explosive creativity and wonder to be found in all of them.
Well, get out your cane and shake it at the kids on your lawn Gramps. But know they are still full of all the life, creativity and wonder that long ago left you bitter and empty.
Then again, maybe I’m reading too much into your post, and instead you’re just an angry jerk.
Anyone who can mention Baachus in a football post, and not seem out of place, is a pimp in my book.
Bravo sir.
I survived the David Carr Press Conference Thread 3/06/2010
And Harbamania. And the San Francisco Giants 2010 World Series season.
by Hoopers Judge on Aug 18, 2011 12:55 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
After reading you were studying classical civilization
I was almost waiting (see: hoping) for some sort of reference.
I have a minor in classical studies :-)
James Madison…I’m from Charlottesville though, I took some classes at UVa one summer as some of the courses ‘offered’ for a classics minor weren’t actually offered anymore at JMU.
Started in HS though with my Latin teacher; for lack of a better term, he was the [Site Decorum].
some of Ros’s Poetry
Holy Moses! Have a look!
Flesh decayed in every nook!
Some rare bits of brain lie here,
Mortal loads of beef and beer,
Some of whom are turned to dust,
Every one bids lost to lust;
Royal flesh so tinged with ‘blue’
Undergoes the same as you.
Not Bad
Lets just pick on the Niners and not dead popes and poets
I Agree With You, But.....
Welcome. Normally I dont give rats about a 3rd string QB. But the 49ers dont have a real 1st string QB, so the importance of the McClown signing is a tad more elevated. This guy could likely find himself playing, and that worries me.
rec'd
One of the wittiest posts here in a while. I especially liked the driving with a helmet comment.
Only in the small yellow school buses
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 18, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
No you have the LONG buses
for the kewl kidds. That is the one I always rode in as a child. I was a rebel, no helmet with my bike either
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 18, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
It explains a lot actually
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 18, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
love the article,
The humour was right up my alley, and I agree with all the major points.
by BY97ismyhero on Aug 18, 2011 1:54 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
i am also a student finishing up
I go to uc Davis, what about you?
by BY97ismyhero on Aug 18, 2011 1:56 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Welcome aboard!
The movie Requiem for a Dream could have ended with David Carr throwing passes and it would have still been the most depressing movie ever.
That line was gold. Well done, sir!
"When I get sad, I stop being sad and be awesome instead. True story." - Barney Stinson
Keep up the fun
Tho if you insist on Pope jokes beware that Niner fans spend their Sundays on the tube, in the parking lot and fighting back tears at the Stick – when we say pew, it relates to our offense – no offense intended.
As to third stringers. I like em. I like the uncelebrated guys who bust their rocks to make the team and every so often (5th stringer Brady) blast forth in a burst of glory.
Great post
can throw a football 7 yards while our o-line takes a nap against a casino blitz?
I am just saying =)
we still need a quarterback.
Welcome a board it’s going to be a long bump season, filled with patience!
by spirit_of_the_niners on Aug 18, 2011 3:07 PM PDT reply actions
You suck, Hanson! What a terrible post!
Sorry, had to balance out all the positive vibes. I actually enjoyed your post, and found it reflective of my own feelings towards the signing of McCown.
I also had to find out why you might not care about John XIV… Boy, that’s a pretty messed up time period in Catholic history! And history doesn’t seem to recall particularly much about John. Mainly because he was apparently the Pope OUTSIDE of a prison cell for what, HALF of his reign? before being overthrown by the antipope (not to be confused with Primus’s Antipop).
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
If there isn’t a band with the name “Primus Antipop” in the next few years, I think my life will be greatly diminished.
All kidding aside...
Really nice article! I’m looking forward to more stuff from you.
But I’ve got to think that Primus might have a problem with someone taking their band name AND one of their album titles and turning it into a band name…
You youngin’s today… =)
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
I HATE YOU AND YOUR DUMB WRITING AND YOUR STUPID FACE AND YOU'RE AS DUMB AS A BUTT WES
Nah but really, good stuff, my friend.
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Nice post, Wes.
I hope to see more from you here on NN.
This article was well-written and, I think, exactly the kind of thing that this place needs to re-gain a little respectability. Although leaving the writing in the hands of Joe the Football Fan can be fun from time to time, there are still people that come here hoping to see educated and articulated viewpoints – especially now that it has become so difficult to find those from “legitimate” or “professional” sites like ESPN.com, CSN, Yahoo!, or local newspapers. I mean, this is already better than any Ray Ratto article I’ve ever read.
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McCown
Yah I wasn’t exactly ecstatic when I read they signed McCown. In fact, when I found out I decided to do some reading as to why they did. My first thought was “Seriously? Are we trying to lose on purpose this year? Maybe in some weird way to get Andrew Luck”. McCown has been mediocre at best, 1:1 TD to INT ratio and a completion % not worth mentioning. So why did they bother picking him up? Apparently QB Coach Geep Chryst is the reason since he worked with him in Arizona and he is familiar with the offensive style. I totally agree if something happens to Kaepernick and Smith, we can pretty much expect it to be the Frank Gore show assuming we have a shot. But I guess what I am getting at is, at least from the coaches’ perspective, McCown can come in and take little time to get acclimated to the offensive scheme.
In response to Kaepernick playing over McCown. I can see that and it makes sense. But I could also see McCown playing over Kaepernick, at least until the end of the season, just to avoid crushing Kaepernick’s rookie spirit. Ironically, what has happened to David Carr and all those other 1st round QB picks who were thrown out to the wolves with mediocre to crappy QB coaching.
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