Remaining NFL Free Agents: Can 49ers Make A Splash?
by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:00 PM PDT
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PrintObviously San Francisco has been less active than many of us would have liked. However, there are still a nice amount of solid free agents left on the market.
While, the front office continues to preach patience, we are less than two weeks away from the pre-season opener and the roster needs to start taking hold. So, let us take a look.
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Quarterbacks
Troy Smih
The market has obviously thinned out here. San Francisco was said to be interested in both Matt Hasselbeck and Matt Moore, but didn't sign either. On Sunday, Jim Harbaugh said the 49ers may add a veteran quarterback. I could see all three players on this list as options for San Francisco moving forward.
Full Backs
Le'Ron McClain
Marcel Reece (Restricted)
San Francisco signed Jack Corcoran to a three year contract over the weekend. He was an undrafted free agent from Rutgers in 2010 and spent some time on a couple teams practice squad last year. San Francisco has yet to release Moran Norris and have rookie Bruce Miller playing full back, so it wouldn't seem like they would be on the market for a full back. If San Francisco decides to part ways with Norris, which they should, you could be looking at them taking a stab at one of these players.
Wide Receivers
Steve Smith
Early Doucet (Restricted)
Edwards was linked to San Francisco prior to an incident Sunday night that found a couple individuals within his entourage arrested. He has a history of off-field problems and goes against what the 49ers look for in character. That said, they could make a play for him this week. My money would be on San Francisco making a play for Floyd, who is a bay area native and would represent an upgrade over Josh Morgan.
Centers
Shan O'Hara
Kyle Cook (Restricted)
Recent news of Adam Snyder switching to center may discount San Francisco looking for a center. But, they have been linked to Olin Kreutz and could make a player for the six year pro-bowl performer. O'Hara could also makes sense if the Snyder experiment proves to be a failure
Defensive Tackles
You could be looking at SF making a move for Pat Williams, but it looks like they believe they are set after not retaining Franklin
Outside Linebackers
Keith Bullock
You have to look at 3-4 schemes and what players would fit in there. This is a reason why San Francisco did not retain Manny Lawson. This would suggest that Matt Roth or Tully-Banta Cain would be the only options here. San Francisco did sign former San Diego Charger, Antwan Applewhite over the weekend.
Inside Linebackers
I believe that San Francisco is prepared to go into the 2011 season NaVorro Bowman as the starter opposite Patrick Willis, but they could either look for a veteran or depth. There does seem to be some options there in Morrison, Aoydele, Jones and Hayes. You can forget about Totupu, we didn't give Takeo Spikes a three year contract for a reason. San Francisco signed Larry Grant over the weekend, which adds a solid depth player.
Cornerbacks
Brandon Carr (Restricted)
Brent Grimes (Restricted)
Wow, this list sure has shrunk. You went from players such as Joseph and Asomugha to this. I really don't know where to begin. Both Carr and Grimes, as restricted free agents, would cost first round picks; something San Francisco is not willing to part with. They could either work out a trade for one of them, or look elsewhere. Carlos Rogers is an extremely solid cover guy, and I believe he will end up signing with San Francisco.
A couple players said to be on the trade block
CB- Asante Samuel
WR- Jerricho Cotchery
It just depends on what the Eagles and Jets would ask for each player. Samuel isn't that shutdown corner that San Francisco was looking for in the free agent market, but he is a big time play maker; something else the 49ers need. There is a reason why he is a perrenial pro-bowl performer. Philadelphia would be looking for a 2nd round pick or a combination of a mid round pick and a player in return.
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If Superbowls were won by Free Agency
the redskins would have seven peated
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by manraj7 on Aug 2, 2011 4:03 PM PDT reply actions 14 recs
Nice!
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Rec'd
manraj doesn’t get enough rec’s around here 110k comments and no love.
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And the Patriots would never have won a SB
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Scratch that
Point is the Patriots have used free agency to win 3 SBs the last decade.
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Point is, they haven't done nearly what the Eagles have done, or the Redskins for that matter.
And they also coach just about all their players up
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In the Colts vs Saints SB neither team had a Free Agent
I think every player that started was drafted
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Don't go that far
Darren Sharper was at the very least one FA signing
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Drew Brees was a FA from the Chargers
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Didn't he technically get traded as part of the Manning business?
or am I mixing that up with something else
You're thinking of Rivers
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He was traded or out of there..
long before the Eli Manning business.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Aug 2, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
oh
then ya I think I was wrong. I remember they noted something about free agency during that superbowl. Either no one signed one that off season or they drafted all of them.
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Again
Drew Brees was a free agent signing by the Saints. But your overall point is not belittled just don’t try and bend reality to fit the situation.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Aug 2, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
so it was the other one
he didn’t sign that offseason
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Oh so its just that season?
So if you have 43 FA players on your team already and you draft 10 players the next year and not FA and you make it to the superbowl then you are a team that solely relies on the draft? I’m guessing you’d say no.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Aug 2, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Amen to that
They at least decided they would coach their players up. That is a mistake that the organizatons of the Skins and the Cowboys have done of late. We will see if that fate befalls the Eagles. They consider “we got good players and we got good coaches, we’re a shoe in.” but it’s not that simple, it does take patience (not sure the type of patience I am currently attributing to Baalke and staff at the moment, but patience nonetheless) Kraft just wanted to see his team do better, not exactly win superbowls but just freaking do better. The Skins and the Cowboys just expect they can buy a team, they want to play Madden.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Aug 2, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
The Patriots primary contributors have still been via the draft
Brady, the entire offensive and defensive lines
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Ya, thats a few of the units ... the rest?
Listen no one here believes free agency isn’t needed. Lets not go down this road.
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I actually like the Pats and BB a lot
but yes, Belichik is not a stellar drafter nor is his front office. The overall team (FO and coaching staff) have been good at bringing in FAs and coaching up less than viable players.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Aug 2, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
The need to feebly justify it only makes things worse
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That isn't feebly justifying it
Look at the Patriots, Steelers, Colts, and Packers; none of them make much of a splash in free agency. I dare you to look at their rosters and tell me otherwise.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Steelers and Colts
Will find plenty of free agents on those other teams.
Also you are diverting from the issue. Not talking about a “splash in free agency”. We are talking about a team that put up no fight while its roster was raided in free agency.
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Truth
From an outsider’s perspective, I don’t think the 49ers not signing any big names was a big deal, but rather letting perfectly capable starters walk away for nothing.
by Fearless Frog on Aug 2, 2011 4:28 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Miller is a great addition
But talk about being overpaid… WOW. Rice overpaid for a player with injury concerns and only one good season. Miller paid Vernon Davis money? Haha please
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs in 2012, hopefully! :)
Uh. Okay?
Those are valid points, but I’m talking about the 49ers
by Fearless Frog on Aug 2, 2011 5:50 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Just showing examples of how inflated the market is
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs in 2012, hopefully! :)
I'd say that's accurate
The sky is not falling, but losing players who were starters and not appearing to have many capable parts to replace them is problematic. There seems to be two camps right now on NN: The sky is falling crowd and The rose colored glasses crowd w/ the rest of us somewhere in between.
Harbaugh brings optimism, but some of the personnel moves, or lack thereof, are worrisome.
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by Young_To_Rice on Aug 2, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Justify what?
He was merely pointing out that just because a team goes out and acquires all kinds of high priced talent doesn’t always pan out. It’s a valid point.
Can free agents help, yeah, but it can also rip a team apart and break up any chemistry from previous rosters
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And he is 100 percent correct in regards to that
Just look at the league wide logistics and those teams that are winning and losing. Sure, New England goes out there and trades for pieces of the puzzle, but the majority of their talent is homegrown.
Same goes for the Steelers, Packers and Colts.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Again, that isn't the issue
Getting the roster raided in free agency is the issue.
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the roster wasn't raided
the FO simply invested in the 2012 draft – patience
LOL
49ers season ticket renewals …. patience
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If they have a losing season, it definitely will not put more butt's in the seats.
Especially at an inflated rate. Jed may as well pull the trigger now…. on himself.
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Sando a good, short little blurb
If the 49ers were going to rebuild they should talk to their fans about it. This “Patience” B.S. only making the situation worse.
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When the FO says patience
we hear “wait a couple of days”, but they probably mean “wait a year, or two”
at least as far as comp picks go
wasn’t meant to be applied to the team’s performance/record when they actually get a chance to play
Comp picks will be awesome next year... assuming everyone does well and plays all year.
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pretty likely one of the 6 will do well
Baas, Spikes, Clements, Franklin, Lawson or Goldson (I’m assuming he’s gone).
Roster getting raided?
and signing one year contracts in a market that didn’t see them as valuable? Okay
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
hey man
if it take a couple of weeks for a guy to get a 1 year deal it must mean that everyone wanted him ok.
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Check around
Most of the free agents are shocked to be getting 1 year offers.
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who got 1 year deals?
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
A bunch of defensive players on other teams I don't care about
I think Bill Barnwell at ESPN has written about it.
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I'm just thinking about it
a lot of players got 1 year deals probably because the lockout and people thinking that they may not be ready to play this year (Note: Franklin last year) Do you think that maybe the Front office was thinking this?
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
I've heard
Teams want to hang on to their young players because they will be unable to evaluate them. Therefore a lot of vets are going to find themselves without a roster spot.
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maybe its smart not to go into FA
sure it will give hope but will it be worth it. Injuries are gonna be high this year look at what is happening right now.
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Actually
Since everyone is going that direction it’s smart to sign as many 1 years deals as the team can to take advantage of the market.
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Only
if they are upgrades over the players we lost
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
And only if they are willing to accept it
For a team that is percieved as down (not likely to win it all), 1 year contracts are not usually the great FA bait. This is probably a very painful side effect of the horror show we have been fielding.
At least
we have a local UFL and Arena league team to take players from if the injuries continue to rack up
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
and other teams' practice squads
usually there’s a servicable replacement on someone’s PS
raided?
How have we been raided.
Spikes—34 year old ILB with his replacement already on the roster.
Baas—decent 1st year center who bilked the Giants out of $26 million
Franklin—one year deal so he could re-enter free agency. If all he could get is a one year deal he sure wasn’t going to be re-signing with teh 49ers
Lawson—see Franklin.
by smileyman on Aug 2, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Makes not to self
Read Walsh’s book again tonight or in the near future.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Aug 2, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Superbowls aren't won without it, not anymore.
Wait for it, wait for it, yeah 49ers sign, an undrafted free agent, AGAIN!!
that's fine, that's fine, that's fine
meet your new starting quarterback Carolina. He works his butt off.
Cam Newton?
JaMarcus Russell, Akili Smith and Ryan Leaf #2
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I bet he has more talent than all three of them put together
but I guess that still wouldn’t really give anyone any faith in his ability
maybe the 49ers will start releasing players
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they're not going to sign Edwards
they avoid personalities like his, and I don’t mean prima donna. I mean [site decorum].
by whistlingmountain on Aug 2, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Floyd is almost an impossibility.
Look at the Niners’ pattern for FA: Floyd is overrated, and will command more money than he is worth. There’s no way we would get him.
Basically, if you recognize his name, you can be pretty sure the Niners won’t get him.
it's amazing
that every day, it seems the “i’d be satisfied with these players (insert names here)” gets smaller and smaller as these players sign with other teams lol
by sanfranfanmdk on Aug 2, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
that's so true
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None of those players excite me
A so-so #2 WR, below average CB an a fullback.
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Well these are the free agent counter parts
Other than McClain neither is much of an upgrade.
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Absolutely HUGE
and Rogers would actually be an upgrade in terms of coverage over Clements. Problem, he can’t catch a ball, even if he thought it was Cromartie’s child
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea
but BAD BAD Character man. Can’t believe his most recent run in with the law SMH
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep
he’d shiv or have his boys shiv all the opposing player’s D. I’m actually hoping tor a Chris Carter type revelation to come of Braylon and then he might be of value. Until then, sorry but no thank you.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Aug 2, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
NOT AT ALL.
Morgan was the ONLY good WR we had last year, why you all hating on Joshua?
That's what I'm trying to figure out
The attention is always directed at the wrong person. The one good receiver we have and that’s who everyone points the finger at.
In Jed We Trust?
Well it's definitely true
But I’ve never seen anyone claim that Morgan should be a #1, and its not like he was a high draft pick. He has exceeded expectations in my book. We just haven’t had any viable threats at WR or QB since he’s been here.
In Jed We Trust?
I wouldn't call VD a prima donna any more, I think he's passed that.
And at this point I bet Edwards can be had for cheaper than Floyd. And Edwards is way mo’ talented than Floyd.
Patrick Willis to Eagles rumors 100 percent false
I didn’t even know their were rumors of him going to Philadelphia, LMFAO
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I smelled BS, checked my shoes and realized it was the INTERNETZ
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by Drew Kerr on Aug 2, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not really
someone on ESPN suggested it LMFAO
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Who? Because they just lost any credibility they may have.
by Sactown_Loyalty19 on Aug 2, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Can I take site decorum off because its my post?
I REALLY REALLY REALLY WANT TO RIGHT NOW!!!! Just to call McShay exactly what he is
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
is fooch here nope he is at practice and neither is NJ
so ya sure just say decorum off
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Lets take it off then Mcwagner
just because of that Willis rumor
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm scared to, Fooch hits me
I’m not going to be the guy that pulls the trigger, blame LondonNiner if you must
just blame me
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Well, it was nice knowing ya manraj
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"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
He would just be like
why would you listen to Manraj…
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
More like
IDIOTS!…the lot of you
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
or that
but he loves me. I’m his favorite
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
No one loves you manraj
its the sad truth, just face it LOL
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
lies
everyone loves me. If you don’t now you will soon.
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Trying to find out now
James and Tr9er are on Twitter looking into it.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you see the source?
It’s a Philly writer … false because the Eagles are asking for Willis and 2 1st round draft picks.
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since when was a corner more important than a Mike ILB in a 3-4
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Desean Jackson, Shady McCoy, Asante and a 1st and Philadelphia has a deal LOL
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I want Mike Vick, Andy Reid, Asomugha
they must take Alex Smith and hire Sing as their new HC
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
stick in Michael Vick, and nnamdi,
and I would still reject that offer. P Will Niner LEGEND
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Everyone on BleedingGreenNation knows that this is the dumbest rumor in the history of dumb rumors. Willis might be the best LB in the league and is entering the prime of his career. Absolutely no reason to trade him for anything besides Samuel and the Eagles first and second round picks for the next three years.
The Jruth shall be told.
LMAO, and they are saying stright up Samuel for Willis
How delusional are their fans to think that this would happen.
"I hate it! It looks like a stickup at 7-Eleven. Five guys standing there with their hands in the air."
Norm Sloan
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."
Weldon Drew
Yes a player not even projected to start on their roster for 4 time Pro Bowler considered the best at his position.
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cmon man Patrick Willis isn't that good he only made the 1st team all-pro 3 times in 4 years
could’ve been better
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
The real fans know this isn’t true. Only dumbass bandwagoners think that this is a possibility.
The Jruth shall be told.
what I wanted my time machine
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
You don't need a time machine to travel in time
You just need to fly next to a black hole and chill there for a few hours – and due to you moving close to the speed of light you literally will have not aged while hundreds/thousands of years have passed on Earth. Goodluck my friend.
The Jruth shall be told.
won't I get sucked into the black hole?
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
If I find one I'll try it
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Can't say I am disappointed with any of the decisions the FO have made so far
Baas – Overpaid…. hugely
Takeo Spikes – 3 year deal… far too long
Carr, Clements, Heitmann, Nedney released
Lawson – one year deal at 3 million… possibly could have re-signed Lawson – 3 million on a one year deal is nothing
Franklin – one year deal…. if Aubrayo didn’t want to re-sign with the team on a 2 or 3 year deal, and either wanted a one year deal or 4 to 5 year deal… then I’m happy the FO is giving Ricky and Williams a chance.
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs in 2012, hopefully! :)
I agree Teekay, but...
my problem is that they aren’t replacing those losses. However, I have a theory that I posted below.
by Liquid Pantyhose on Aug 2, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
But are those losses significant losses that a rookie or youth cannot replace totally?
That is the question I continue to ask myself. And the conclusion is it is pretty close.
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I mean
Baas = average play at center for 1 year.
TKO = 35 year old fading ILB
Lawson = 2.5 Sacks
Franklin = Good experience but team is going with different scheme that suits Sopoaga better.
Clements = Old corner… no more treads on the tires and gets burnt by fast young WR’s
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I think TKO will get us a great comp pick and if Bowman performs like we all think he should, there will be little impact. Hope so anyway
You are looking at
solid comp picks for Lawson, Franklin, Goldson and Spikes
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe Baas
Even though he is average and has a pretty low ceiling
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cost/benefit
Spikes will get a high comp pick, good salary, good team, will have good production and will have cost us nothing. All the rest are question marks
Someone on NFLN
suggested that Lawson would have double digit sacks for Cincinnati in 2011!
Yeah, and Alex Smith is throwing for 4K and 40TDs
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
doesn't cinci run a 4-3?
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
if he gets 11 sacks
I’ll change my avatar to this pic.
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Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
That isn't even funny
I need to unrec your previous post for that
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
noooooooooooo
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
done, book marked, will wait and see.
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god I hope he doesn't get 11
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Can’t you just see Joe Thomas going down Week 1, Manny racking up 5 sacks cause Browns aren’t able to adjust than cruising on a confidence high through the rest of the season.
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i would cry a little
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
if he gets 11 sacks
then everyone was right, he shouldn’t have been playing in a 3-4 and we’ll get a 3rd round comp pick. I can live with that.
Damn like that
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"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors."
Weldon Drew
Replacements
Snyder = plays better on the inside anyway. Smartest lineman on the team.
Bowman = Youth, fast, needs to gain awareness, but has mounds of potential.
Aldon Smith – TBD (will probably pass rush similar to Clay Matthews, DeMarcus Ware)
Sopoago = Will fit scheme better (explained by Florida Danny and Ougdas very well)
Culliver = Rookie with great recovery speed and is looking excellent in camp so far. TBD.
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You think Smith will get more than 2.5 sacks this year?
Because if they do then wouldn’t it be a success?
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They are going to bring him similar to how Capers uses Matthews in GB.
It will be very similar to how GB runs their defense. Fangio and Capers are tied together from years ago. Same philosophies for the most part
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so ya
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
We could see him do it in a single game against the Cards, haha
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lol
or against the Hawks. Also Saffold has trouble on running plays. You think he could easily be bullrushed?
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Can't wait till week 1
Smiths vs Okung
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He will be playing on the left or the right? I think he will play behind McDonald. It would be wise anyway to have pressure coming from both sides… sort of a ‘meet you at the QB’ mentality.
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aww man
I wanted to call one side the Smith side
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Aldon needs to be coming from the blind side.
Potential for a lot more sacks and FF’s.
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that would be Smith's side
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
SMITHS SIDE
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
You've never watche Okung play, have you?
He dominates versus the bullrush, he made Julius Peppers his b**** last season.
by Fearless Frog on Aug 2, 2011 11:31 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Not sold on Sopoago (or MacDonald)
These guys seem serviceable, but how is Sopoago a better fit than Franklin? I think Franklin was overrated, personally, good, but overrated. Sopoago hasn’t shown me that he is a better fit.
by Liquid Pantyhose on Aug 2, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
There was another thread posted today where Ougdas explained it crystal clearly.
Look for it and read it ’cause he does a better job at explaining it than I can. But it makes perfect sense.
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I hope you're right but...
What happens WHEN one of these guys gets hurt ?
There are number of question marks, even if they remain healthy, and we have noone behind them.
I think we've got good depth at every position except CB
Snyder = Kilgore, Wragge
Bowman = McKilop and Grant
Aldon Smith – Gibbson, Haralson, Applegate,
Sopoago = RJF, Ian Williams
Culliver = phillip adams . . . might want to sign a vet
OLB doens't scare me...
But… really? Are you that confident about the other spots. I like your enthusiasm, but I’m scared (at this point) that our defense is going to be one of the worst in the league.
Bowman is a stud
and Grant is a solid rotational ILB.
Also, Applewhite did start 13 games for San Diego last season
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
With this QB and Defense we are a 4 or 5 win team 6 if we are lucky
I think some people have way to rose colored of glasses. I want the niners to win as much as anyone. But I just don’t see how these guys are going to be so good if they couldn’t beat out the starters any of the last couple of seasons. Also if they have so much potential why did most of them not get picked until the late rounds of the draft or not at all.
I think I remember hearing this same talk years ago when Nolan took over. The talent on this team is so much better than everyone else thinks. This team has the potential to win the division. How did that turn out for us.
When you post Lawson 2.5 sacks, you're hiding all of what he does to get your point across.
There is no better coverage olb in the league, he forced 4 fumbles and amassed those 2.5 sacks in limited play. I’m sorry it was an idiot move to not keep a guy like that for a scheme that wants to hound the QB.
Wait for it, wait for it, yeah 49ers sign, an undrafted free agent, AGAIN!!
He did not have limited play
he played 641 snaps last year. The only other OLB on the team with more snaps was Haralson at 696.
That is not limited play. He was basically the starter at OLB for the whole season, as was Haralson.
Good question Drew...
The Niners have a lot of youth, albeit unproven. I’m certain Harbaugh and his staff will use his players better and get more out of them than Singeltary could ever have dreamed of. That alone is probably worth a win or two. But it makes me nervous. It could be boom or bust with such young, unproven players. I don’t want another mediocre season and I definitely don’t want a regression. All I want is an NFC West title!
by Liquid Pantyhose on Aug 2, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Stockpiling picks before our eyes
For every qualified free agent that the Niners lose (Franklin, Spikes, Lawson, etc.) they receive a compensatory pick in next year’s draft. If a team loses more FA than they sign, then that’s when they receive a comp pick. What round the pick is is determined by a proprietary formula based on the player’s salary, playing time, and postseason honors with his new team, with salary being the primary factor. So, for example, a team that lost a linebacker who signed for $2.5 million per year in free agency might get a sixth-round compensatory pick, while a team that lost a wide receiver who signed for $5 million per year might receive a fourth-round pick. Compensatory picks are awarded at the end of rounds 3-7.
Baalke, Harbaugh & Company are either vehemently sticking to the “Build Through The Draft” philosophy or are planning on making offers on Osi Umenyiora and/or Asante Samuel, knowing they will have additional draft picks coming (albeit in later rounds) to partially fill the loss of what will almost surely a 1st-2nd pick (or several mid-round picks) to get one or both players.
by Liquid Pantyhose on Aug 2, 2011 4:22 PM PDT reply actions
Building through the draft and waiting for compensatory picks is exactly what I think the FO are doing. I agree.
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs in 2012, hopefully! :)
We've talked about that
Has been another theory. Because of the shortened preseason teams will keep their rookies because they have no time to evaluate them thus shut the older players out.
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49er front office can restore our faith by...
as the poster above (Sanguines) suggested… sign F.B. McClain, W.R. Floyd, C.B. Roger’s.
All three of those guys are desperatly needed to fill huge talent voids at those position.
Like any other NFL coach, if your GM don’t provide you talent & depth to coach, you cannot be successul at the NFL level.
they can also restore our faith by winning
but that will take patience . . . didn’t I hear someone suggest that?
I think those 3 are more likely to sign than any others at this point
because the top tier players want to be a competitive team, which we haven’t been in a while. While the 2nd tier players are looking to step up into a starting/#1 position. We might be able to lure them for that reason imo.
SITE DECORUM OFF
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:32 PM PDT reply actions
The Seahawks, the Rams and the Cardinals are all shit
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by teekay on Aug 2, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
they are like the shit you step on
worse than regular shit
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
lol
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When did the 49ers join the fucking Pac-12?
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Lawrence Phillips willing to make league minimum...
Gore becomes a niners cap casualty (sarcasm or trend?)
by wtlichens on Aug 2, 2011 4:51 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Just wanted to do it for this
McShay is a mcfuckbucket
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:34 PM PDT reply actions
yep, no better than a bag of dicks
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by fjm on Aug 2, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Niners sign Phillip Davis
Our secondary problems are solved!! lol
Yeah
a 5 foot 9 inch undrafted free agent from Tulane is our favorite to win the #2 corner job
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
awesome.
I thought we were going to have to watch Spencer get “toasted” all year at number 2. Is it Culliver or Adams teamed up with him?
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
5 ft 9 running a 4.5
Not great
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camp fodder
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Hey
we signed Williams, Grant, Applewhite and Akers. That equals WIN!!!
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
and they say we have been inactive during FA
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Tier 2 players and The Captain...
wooot… ?! I hope I am wrong on this one… Lol on Oh Crap….
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It's like getting kicked in the nuts
everytime I open this website we’ve lost another starter and signed nobody. I’ve lost absolutely all excitement and optimism for the upcoming season in a week. This sucks…
I read that "I like getting kicked in the nuts"
LMFAO
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
we found the problem
ban him and it will be ok
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Nope
ban Baalke and Jed York and everything will be ok
It was a joke
dw I can’t ban you
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Oh no we're signing.
It just happens to be unheard of guys from schools that are off the college radar. Either this FO.. mainly Baalke is so incredibly arrogant that he thinks he can see talent that no other GM in the league can see. Or the 49ers have just decided to get some guys on the cheap this year hoping to find a diamond in the rough.
So looking at the Niners
O-line: Staley, Iupati, Snyder, Rachal and Anthony Davis = One of the best young o-lines in the league
D-line: McDonald, Soap and Justin Smith = The best D-line in the division
So….. Superbowl
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You forgot
Best QB and 2nd best RB in the league. Plus mad SF mojo.
Equals==WINNING
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I wanna see how well Soap does before claiming our D-Line great
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
See
we are at the acceptance stage of the mourning process
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Acceptance?
I think we’re still in the bargaining stage
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by Mdizzle138 on Aug 2, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol
"I for one welcome our new computer overlords." - Ken Jennings, after losing to a computer on Jeopardy, 2/16/11
The D-Line is still good
1/3 of it is the best in the NFL. Not to mention that Soap was insanely good at shutting down the run as a DE. I still have hope that it will be really really good.
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Less active? No? Less productive? Yes
Letting the 49er pessimist in me out I would say they’ve not been so much inactive as nonproductive. They were after Nnamdi, and Occocinco, and were in the race to keep a top 5 NT in Franklin. In doing that they lost out on Jonathan Joseph, Josh Wilson, a few other viable cornerbacks and the aforementioned players. During that time they also lost at least 5viable players in Spikes, Baas, Clements and Franklin (mind me I say viable, not saying stellar or star just more capable or more “proven” than what we are left with.) And we have gained, David Akers, Madieu Williams and some other (at this time) paltry UDFAs. I still hold out hope and faith in our 49ers Nation, our FO staff,our coaching staff, and our players and of course our fanbase. But I do at this time have some inner worries. My dream scenario (couched with a bit of realism) is that we get Carlos Rogers, Malcolm Floyd, Jonathan Goodwin, and Leron McClain would make me elated.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Aug 2, 2011 4:50 PM PDT reply actions
100% Agree
But the problem is that no free agent wants to play for us, unless we overpay for them… And this team is unwilling to overpay for free agents. Therefore, we end up with nothing.
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My seat just broke from grabbing on too tight.... patience Drew... patience
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by Drew Kerr on Aug 2, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Love it rec
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck Patience!
We need overpaid veterans THIS VERY MOMENT
Got love for the WCC. Go Lions!
by SnakesOnAPlane on Aug 2, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Junior Bryant?
that was random.
Anyone see the corpses that Washington signed this off-season?
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
2 of my guys from UVa, ha
Torchia was a solid college TE, that is about it.
If Verica is anymore than a warm body that has a throwing motion I’d be surprised…
yea terrible, terrible, terrible ( in my best charles barkley voice)
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 2, 2011 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Bring back Winfred Tubbs!!!!!!!!!!
Got love for the WCC. Go Lions!
by SnakesOnAPlane on Aug 2, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
a crocodile
or an alligator…..
nice guess on the turd though I guess.. :-)
by D.P on Aug 2, 2011 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
man, how bad are these pre-season games going to be?
there’s no way half the teams in the league will be anywhere near ready, let alone their backups and rookies.
by whistlingmountain on Aug 2, 2011 4:59 PM PDT reply actions
Equals
another 4-0 pre-season for us LOL
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
no not 4-0
we need to be 3-1
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Re-sign Andy Lee
Put him at center on offense, NT on defense, KR, and K. Sign a new Punter for the season. And we should be set.
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Wow David Harris got paid...where the Jets get this $$$ from??
Newsday reports that Harris’ contract is worth $36 million over four years with $29.5 million guaranteed. It is the largest amount of guaranteed money ever given to an inside linebacker, the paper reports.
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he's only being paid 4 million this season
His franchise tag was over 10 million… so they have 6 million extra to spend this season actually
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seriously though Harris???
Jets sold their soul on this one……
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 2, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Definition of insanity
giving Harris more guaranteed money than Patrick Willis
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
They had to do it
because they asked him to restructure and make the deal heavily back-loaded. They reduced his franchise tag figure to about 4 million this season. Otherwise, they would have just released Harris after this season with little cap penalty
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Did manraj just hack your account? o_o
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he has 11 recs on a comment, I call that WINNING
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
he loves me
I’m his favorite
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Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Carlos Rodgers
Was the corner I wanted in the first place I knew nnamdi wasn’t coming Rodgers has the 2nd most talent just bad hands if he can learn to catch those dropped interceptions (easily coachable) then he’ll be a really good corner sign him and I’ll relax a lil maybe a wideout like Floyd as well… We need Rodgers though like yesterday
by Ninersincebirth82 on Aug 2, 2011 5:06 PM PDT reply actions
Rogers
was the corner I had the 49ers going with in a post a couple weeks ago. C’mon, make it happen!
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
+.0001
and thats alot
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 2, 2011 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm willing to wait until the end of Free Agency to judge the Niners FO
But trust me…if this doesn’t work out, I’m going to explode.
Has anyone
Heard anything else about Rodgers? Besides the niners were interested? Fuck 4 years 16-20 mil should get it done easily shoot maybe less
by Ninersincebirth82 on Aug 2, 2011 5:19 PM PDT reply actions
Carolina is interested in him replacing Marshall
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 2, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn...
Yea they need to pull the trigger on this one for sure…
by Ninersincebirth82 on Aug 2, 2011 5:20 PM PDT reply actions
Easy as 1 2 3 . . . .4
1. Le’Ron McCain . . .waive Norris
2. Carlos Rogers…pay him what we must. AND/OR:
3. Asante Samuels for a 2 next year, signed to a long term deal. We won’t find a 2 as good as him next year at any postion.
4. Malcom Floyd if we have cap room left.
QB: Get CK on the field as soon as he’s ready. Smith won’t cut it.
With CK at QB and the 4 moves above we could at least win the west.
I think what you see is what we get.
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I would give a 2
like yesterday for samuels seriously I think a two would be a semi bargain with the secondary we have right now… Still a solid dline n linebackers safety is ok just a solid corner and our D is gonna be ok. I honestly think Alex smith will have his best year under harbaugh… Anybody remember how he was under norv? He was actually pretty good defensive minded coaches n injury have hurt his progression
by Ninersincebirth82 on Aug 2, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
No on Asante for a 2
that’s too much for what we will need. Let’s look at this realisticaly. We have a QBOTF. We get Carlos Rogers on a 2 year contract. We have what we expect to be a PROTF (Pass Rusher Of The Future) in Smith. We need next year to be looking for a DE to replace Cowboy, another OLB, a CB for sure, and most probably a big WR. That’s the draft, we need those picks.
Jonathan Goodwin on a 3 year contract in place of Samuels. (Give Beeler some time to grow in more ways than one)
McClain for a 3 year
Floyd for a 2 year
Rogers for a 1 (maybe 2 year)
Then next year based on output of the team look for (based on team performance) the following: CB, DL (NT or DE), WR, OLB.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Aug 2, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
If...
the niners make all those FA moves I agree but they won’t I was thinking of just the corner problem and right now I’d give a 2 for samuels He is a playmaker and I think we can win now maybe not a superbowl but reach the postseason for sure I agree we need draft picks for the future but with all the comp picks we should receive next year IMO a 2 is worth it…
by Ninersincebirth82 on Aug 2, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
What can that 2 get you next year though?
Let’s look at our lineup. We have a plethora of safeties and some wash CBs. Trade off Haralson, put Brooks in place of him, and trade off Shawtae. Make a deal of a 4 if no playoffs, 3 if playoffs, move Reggie back to CB with options at safety. Let Culliver be what Asante was when Asante came to the Pats. That two could get us a viable DL player or CB even or WR. Get a big boy on the line to play.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Aug 2, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Goldson pretty much out of choices ...
Dallas resigns Sensabaugh. Since Dallas and SF were the only ones showing interest, his options are extremely limited now
Dallas never showed interest in him...
that I heard except for him running his mouth and spouting off teams.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Aug 2, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL still no significant FA wants to come to 49ers
lol they should have overpayed for someone to come play with niners
So sad and depressing looking at this list
I am resigned to the fact that despite our obvious needs, and quality players that remain – that we will not sign any of these players.
It is also quite sad considering the woulda-coulda potential of this offseason, just one week ago.
We 49ers have come a long way from the days of Bill Walsh, Carmen Policy and Jed’s Uncle.
"Aaaaaaaal Apalachicola"
NFL Network reports that Franklin signed a one-year contract with the Saints
That beat our offer? Sounds like we’re sandbagging for next year.
it probably didn't beat our offer
but if he didn’t like the long term deal he got from us it makes sense to sign a one year deal and re-enter free agency when it’s not so crowded and when the signing period is not so short.
Great rundown.
I’d like to get O’Hara on a short deal if he’s as healthy as he says.
None of the CBs outside of Rogers really enthrall me. I’ll be pretty disappointed if we don’t get him.
Malcom Floyd is from Sacramento, BTW—not the Bay Area. I’d prefer him over Braylon, but I still wouldn’t give him three years.
"He forced it to go in the net, and that's a good thing." -Jerry Reynolds
Floyd/Edwards and Rogers
would make me a happy fan
agree...
Rogers is Said to have a meeting with us tonight and tomorrow. Lock him down for 3 years. Lock up Floyd for a big Target to have.
by LongTimeReader1stTimeBlogger on Aug 2, 2011 7:25 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Can we sign TO
to a one day contract, allow him to retire as a Niner, securing the two best WR to play the game as Niner retirees
would also make me happy
Owens signing
Owens is still better than thier second option and maybe he is still better than their first option, If they signed him they might as well let him play because he is still more productive than any reciever they have now.
by Jeremy Faller on Aug 2, 2011 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
It is debatable on who is really willing to sign Owens because he is aging, sometimes he doesn’t work well with others and the good teams are already solidified, I would guess that as competetive as Owens is he would still be able to contribute something of productive value, the 49ers need someone who can make a play downfield.
by Jeremy Faller on Aug 2, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Owens can still play
Obviously Owens would prefer to go to a contender, but what contender out there is willing to take a shot on a 37 year old wide out who has repeatedly been criticized for generating poor team chemistry and controversy towards team leaders? I think the Colts could use him but I don’t know if Manning would put up with him. The Falcons might be able to use him but with their new draft pick I think they have about all they can handle.
Owens extending his career
He put up good numbers on a very bad team, In fact he was about their best option. He can still be productive, It is just a question of who really needs him? I would like to know where Owens would prefer to go and I would also like to know who would like to have Owens at this point in his career. Washington might be the best fit for a team that could really use him, they seem to like veterans. As far as a SuperBowl contender I think the Chicago Bears could use some help.
Rogers is visiting the 49ers
He arrives tonight and will be there tomorrow as well. That’s all for now, no one jinx this!
As for Olin Kreutz
He’s decided not to retire but wants to play for the “right” team. For some reason that doesn’t feel like the 49ers to me right now but I hope I’m wrong.
Inside info on Lawson
anyone want to know why we let him go?
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
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