49ers vs. Raiders: Analyzing the Run Game
I believe I am the last of the flurry of new front page writers on Niners Nation. I’ve been reading this site for years and finally registered an account about a year ago. My name is Derek Evans and I currently attend a community college in Sacramento, where I was the sports editor for the school newspaper last semester.
I was born into the 49ers fan base. My mom was a huge Joe Montana fan. Ever the rebel, I decided that Steve Young was my favorite 49er quarterback of all time (closely followed by Shaun Hill). This lead to many tense moments between my mother and I. I loved (and still love) to tell her that Steve Young is better.
I am very excited for the chance to write for my favorite blog, Niners Nation. I’d like to thank Fooch for the opportunity. For my first post I will be looking at the 49ers running game against the Oakland Raiders.
A lot has been made of the 49ers passing game as of late, and rightfully so. The 49ers passing attack has been woeful since Terrell Owens and Jeff Garcia left. Now the west coast offense is finally back in San Francisco. But Jim Harbaugh, like Mike Singletary (cue panic), relies on a physical running attack to wear out the opponent's defense.
The 49ers ran all over the Raiders on Saturday. They rushed 41 times and averaged close to six yards per carry. After the game, I went back and "took a look at the film." I focused on the blocking of the offensive line and the different formations the 49ers used.
1st Quarter: 9:39
3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB set. There was no pre-snap motion on this play. Here we see Chilo Rachal pulling to the right to be the lead blocker for Anthony Dixon and makes a good block down the field. Vernon Davis does a great job of setting the edge here and Dixon is able to get to the outside and gain 11 yards.
1st Quarter: 3:56
2 WR, 2 TE, 1 RB set. Again, the 49ers run to the outside, this time on a pitch left. Staley, Iupati, Rachal, a V. Davis handle the interior blocking while A. Davis, Morgan, and Delanie Walker are the lead blockers for Dixon. The Raiders over-pursue and leave a cutback lane for Dixon, who gains nine yards on the play.
2nd Quarter: 10:26
2 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB set. When I look at the post-snap screenshot, the first thing I see is a lot of green. The second thing I see is a lot of Raiders being engaged in blocks. Joe Staley and Moran Norris get great blocks on this play to create a huge gap for Dixon and he gains 14 yards.
2nd Quarter: 6:43
1 WR, 2 TE, 2 RB set. Delanie Walker starts out lined up in the backfield to the right of Kendall Hunter. The run is to the left, and Delanie comes around to lead block for Hunter. This is a nice example of the deception Harbaugh uses in the run game. There are two tight ends to the right. The fullback is lined up to the right, but they run left. Hunter had an impressive run for 16 yards on this play.
3rd Quarter: 10:45
2 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB set. Tony Wragge and Alex Boone combined to eat up the Raiders' defensive end on this play. Daniel Kilgore also stood out, and he helped open up nice hole for Kendall Hunter to hit. Hunter's speed did the rest on this 53-yard touchdown run. The offensive line just abused the Raiders on this play.
The 49ers ran the ball 65% of the time. They also averaged almost six yards a carry, which is outstanding. I think it was a combination of the score (the final drive they ran every single play) and the fact that the Raiders just couldn’t stop them dictated how much they ran the ball.
One thing I did notice is that you can’t just watch Iupati and figure out where the ball is going. He wasn’t pulling nearly as much as he did last season. The offense had multiple lineman and tight ends pulling and blocking down-field.
Kendall Hunter looks GOOD. It’s early, and Glen Coffee tore the Raiders up as well, but I love his combination of strength and agility. He hits the hole quickly and doesn’t do a lot of dancing in the backfield. He also had a great play in pass protection when he completely flipped a guy over on a cut block. There were tears of joy coming from Tom Rathman on that play.
We already knew this, but Harbaugh loves tight ends. The majority of the time they had multiple tight end sets, with Delanie Walker and even Bruce Miller lining up or motioning into the backfield as well.
It will be key for Walker to keep improving as a blocker. It would really help the 49ers disguise the intentions of the offense and keep him on the field. Personally I would love to see a 2 WR (Edwards, Crabtree), 2 TE (V. Davis, Walker), 1 RB (Frank Gore) set a lot during the season. It gives them the most potent offense possible.
This was a very encourage sight for the run game. The Raiders front seven is probably the greatest strength of their team with Nmandi Asomugha leaving. Yes, both teams were running vanilla offenses and defenses, but you have to like the way the 49ers dominated the trenches from the first string to the third.
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good posting, rook
The first thing I see post snap is that stupid jack in the box logo on the field. We need to band together and have this stopped immediately. Next will be the Fox dancing robot animation on the field.
Also, I see these gains being much better with Gore’s abilities and field vision
by mcwagner on Aug 22, 2011 10:11 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
great post man!
I’m loving these screen-shot stories that are popping up. Very helpful for non-players like myself who’ve never played organized football.
I’m on your side on the Montana/Young debate, rare though we may be.
Video
I’m hoping for the day that technology gets good enough that on-the-spot video editing doesn’t require expensive equipment and lots of technological know-how. Hopefully that comes within the next 5 years or so…
As for Young/Montana, I think for me it’s because Young is more visible. He’s still affliated with the team, speaking on TV, giving analysis of Alex Smith, being a likable guy. Joe Montana, on the other hand, has fallen off the face of the earth, save for a shoe commercial or dirtbiking accident.
Montana is around....behind the scenes
He and his wife bought a swanky pad in San Francisco, plus he has entered into an exclusive agreement with the City of Santa Clara to develop commercial property next to the new stadium.
And he was better than Young :)
I like Montana's style
Dude lives like a normal person. Still in San Francisco and many can see him daily just being himself. He’s like a retired rich guy that doesn’t think too highly of himself. I read an article where he said that he appreciates that people don’t fawn over him anymore and just acknowledge him as “Joe”
Didn't know that
Would like to see him have some sort of 49ers face still, but giving up the game is MUCH better than a certain “retired” QB we know.
Yeah
When he first retired and moved to LA, he said one of the reasons was because they weren’t star-struck over him like in the Bay Area at that time. There were so many other celebrities around that people just got used to them being “normal people”.
Really excellent job on the breakdown of the run game.
I was extremely impressed with Kilgore in particular. I can see why Baalke and Harbaugh wanted to move up and grab him in the 5th. I think he is going to be a great pick up.
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He moving inside?
I know he was a tackle in college and they planned to move Kilgore and Person to the inside (G, maybe C also) but I read that they have been playing RT in practices.
is not person playing tackle where kilgore been play guard?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 22, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 22, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I think Person will be cut or PS.
I think the 49ers are only going to keep three active backups for the Oline on gameday, right?
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i could see nine like last year, i believe, but will not be surprised if there are 10. i could see long term boone, persons, goodwin or snyder as the long term back-ups. with kilgore starting next year as chilo may not be resigned
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 22, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
uh?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 22, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
boone did not dress for many games last year, only when injuries took place
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 22, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I know, that's not what I am saying though.
I am saying that we will probably only have 8 dress because we will only be able to dress 46 players on game day.
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ya i know but still see them keeping 9-10 o-line
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 22, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I think he will play guard.
But as Harbaugh said, he want’s all three back ups to be able to fill any role. So it’s great for him that he has tackle experience too. He’s already been playing the inside.
I think the back ups will be:
Snyder
Boone
Kilgore
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by Drew Kerr on Aug 22, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah.
I feel bad for Wragge but I think he may be gone. He has done a pretty okay job at filling in when he’s had to.
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If he couldn't win the center spot over Synder
or the RG spot over Snyder/Rachel, I am not sure I need to feel bad at this point in his career.
by asmithisaverage on Aug 22, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
When everyone went down with injury last year, he did a pretty solid job at filling in.
At least at tackle.
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Don't worry, I'm not crazy
I know Joe is the best to ever play the qb position. I just like to mess with my mom. :)
by DerekRE_3 on Aug 22, 2011 10:56 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
glad you cleared that up...I read your piece with bias until now..lol
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by AzNiner on Aug 22, 2011 11:29 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
glad you cleared that up...I read your piece with bias until now..lol
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by AzNiner on Aug 22, 2011 11:29 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Nice quality analysis
Makes it much easier to see how each individual lineman is doing in this format than it is during live action.
Also would love to see a breakdowns on some failed runs and as to why they didn’t work
Got love for the WCC. Go Lions!
by SnakesOnAPlane on Aug 22, 2011 10:22 AM PDT reply actions
Few too many guys on the field with 3 WR, 2 TE, and 1 RB. How about Morgan lined as a WR shifting inside or having Walker inside moving wide? Same concept with more trickery
by mcwagner on Aug 22, 2011 10:22 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
morgan on the bench with kyle williams on the field, sounds better
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 22, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
hey I like Williams as much as the next guy
But Morgan is a very physical player who would serve better inside to block. We have some real tools to work with.
morgan's effort in blocking was severly lacking last year. williams showed great efforrt and ability in blocking
williams is also much faster and I would say has better hands than morgan.
they also appear to be almost the same height and build in person.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 22, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
compromise
Have Morgan block so it prevents Williams from getting into a situation he can get injured in. I’m a big Morgan fanboy but I have to admit to all your points
i will jump up and down in total disgust but agree to your compromise
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 22, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree with all that.
I would love to see a split in playing time between them. Have two #3’s.
Because Morgan is still an asset in the pass game too. Williams just looks like a big time gamer out there in all facets
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Haha good call
Can’t believe I did that…
by DerekRE_3 on Aug 22, 2011 11:52 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I was going to post the very same thing...
>>"Personally I would love to see a 3 WR (Edwards, Crabtree, Morgan), 2 TE (V. Davis, Walker), 1 RB (Frank Gore) set a lot during the season. It gives them the most potent offense possible."<<
11 players on the field. Rules require 5 numbered 50-79, inclusive, leaves 6 “skill players”. 3(WR)2(TE)1(RB)=6. No QB. This IS possible in the Wildcat, but who takes the snap??? Derek said Frank Gore is the RB, does he take the snap?. Since we have 5 receivers on the field, Frank had better be able to throw the ball…. does anyone know if he can?
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
LOL
I knew he would end up there and be taken in the 3rd round. At least the kid has a better work ethic than Jamarcus Russel from the get go
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I take back everything I said about him being a WR
because the Raiders will be too stupid to play him there. Also, he’s not fast enough to play WR there, he only runs a 4.2 or something like that.
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Yea
And in the 3rd rd…
His 40 time was only 4.36, I figured way too slow for a Raider.
by Virginia9er on Aug 22, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
40 time
They projected him to have the best 40 time for all the quarterbacks that would be available in next years draft.
He ran it on field turf to
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Yeah...
But it’s kind of a typical move for them. Al Davis must’ve decided to come out of his coffin for this one. He can go back to sleep now.
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I imagine him as a zombie, slowly shuffling his feet to feast on souls of the quick-footed. “Speeeeeed”
lol
So, what you are saying is that Terrelle Pryor will be on the back of a milk carton soon?
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So how does this work
every team moves up 1.
So Raiders will have no #2,3,4 next year.
Can't wait to see the leaked order
Raiders.. 3rd round. Everyone else in the NFL: Nothing until the 5th or 6th probably. The Raiders get to bring him up to speed over the next 7 weeks with no chance for him to play afetr the 2nd week. I bet we see him in about a half of the last pre-season game.
Raiders.. 3rd round. Everyone else in the NFL: Nothing until the 5th or 6th probably. The Raiders get to bring him up to speed over the next 7 weeks with no chance for him to play afetr the 2nd week. I bet we see him in about a half of the last pre-season game.I bet having to sit out the first 5 weeks hurt his stock a lot. Congrats Raiders. Happy the 49ers did not get Pryor…
They have 12 days (didn't include weekends)
He may practice and play in the pre-season, but after opening day on Sept. 8 he may not practice or play with the team until his suspension is done.
Great point about Iupati
Last year defenses knew where the run was going by following Iupati when he pulled.
If feels great watching 49er football again when you see them running on different formations and using a plethora of players to get the job done
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More like mind-numbing
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by Drew Kerr on Aug 22, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
if the run game improves greatly from last year
and the front seven, on defense, plays at the same level and the secondary improves; the niners could be pretty good this year.
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I hope so
The start of the schedule is going to be brutal
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first three games should be wins. next two games are payback for last few years. i am counting on 5-0 start
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 22, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I'll have what your drinking
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seatle/cowboys at home should be easy. cincy on the rode with rookie qb and rookie wr should not be much of a challenge 3-0 right there. 3-0 start will provide lots of confidence to kick an over ratted eagles teams butt. tampa bay game is also not out of the question to win and the niners will be hungry for redemption for last year.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 22, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't think it will be as bad as you're thinking.
But nowhere near 5-0…
I think we will be 2-3, 3-2 at very best if the team is firing on all cylinders immediately.
Nothing is ever as it seems. We’ll probably beat Dallas and Philly and lose to the other three teams or something like that.
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My week 1 predictions are usually right then I bomb on yhe others.
We may start the season 4-0. I have us 1-3, in the first 4.
Pre Snap reads, if Smith doesn't get better at it, we made a HUGE mistake!!!
I'm predicting 1-3 and we may end up a lot better.
Pre Snap reads, if Smith doesn't get better at it, we made a HUGE mistake!!!
agree...
3-2 or 2-3 is more realistic…and just because we’re playing Cinci this year doesn’t automatically guarantee a win; point in fact, 1 of Carolinas’ 2 wins came @ our expense…of course, that was w/Jimmy Raye running a futile offense. Having said that, I expect our offense to improve as the season progresses. Jim Harbaugh knows how to operate an offense which incidentally is more than I can say for Singletary
by Doni S on Aug 22, 2011 11:23 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Harbaugh...
Understands the true meaning of “adjustments”. That in and of itself gives this talent packed team more of an edge right there.
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agreed
The Orange Bowl was a great example of Harbaugh’s ability to change things up. The 1st half the game was pretty close, but after some half time adjustments Stanford just blew Virginia Tech out of the water.
Were the Raiders playing a vanilla defense?
Hopefully some of the football gurus can answer this. I felt while watching the game that they were playing a more standard type of defense than we normally see. They didn’t seem to be crowding the box as much as we normally see. I’m wondering if this was done intentionally by the Raiders to look at whatever they are working on in practice. Do you think this had a big impact on our positive results both running and protecting the QB? I know that they blitzed a bit but i didn’t see as much crowding in the first 5 yards from the line of scrimmage. Thanks
They blitzed the house in the beginning but the Niners prepared for it and neutralized it so they backed off because Alex
got on a roll. That’s what happens with good quarterbacks usually. And good Olines of course too. It forces defenses to respect.
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Feels like I'm watching film that's been
Broken down…great post. Steve or Joe…well, Joe gave us 4 championships to Steve’s 1, but I like Steve more because he’s more involved w/the team. In fact, I wouldn’t mind if Steve ever became our QB coach.
Does anyone here know if Kilgore ever played center? Just a thought…
by Doni S on Aug 22, 2011 10:56 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Yes, in Highschool
A few weeks ago, Kilgore conducted and two and a half hour interview over skype with 49ers offensive line coach Mike Solari, who Kilgore called a legend.
The two mostly talked about Kilgore playing center, the one position, Kilgore did not play in college. However, Kilgore was a three-year starter as a prep center IN Tennessee. Kilgore also played the position in the Texas vs. the nation all-star game and he said he’s been working on his snaps.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ninerinsider/detail?entry_id=88085#ixzz1VmbxW3m1
Well then...
Why not let him try out for center and see what happens instead of the mediocre play we seem to be getting from Snyder & Goodwin??
by Doni S on Aug 22, 2011 11:28 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
It will probably be a longer time frame for Kilgore as he is also a rookie..
But I imagine they drafted him as a backup across the OL with C as a focus
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Doing the paper again this semester. Will either be Editor in Chief or Sports Editor again. We are really beefing up the journalism program there. New website, staff is twice the size. It’s going to be much more multimedia than before. Should be a good semester.
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3WR, 2TE, 1 RB
Plus 5 linemen and one quarterback looks like a penalty every time to me. But I agree, it would be a great way to score…
Looking to put San Fran*six-o* here some time soon!
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What I meant to say is have 2 WR, 2 TE, 1 RB sets where Delanie Walker can line up off tackle, in the slot, and in the backfield and motion around
So Raiders got Pryor
In retrospect, I’m not surprised
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by asmithisaverage on Aug 22, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
What's funny is...
The Raiders don’t have a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th next season if I’m not mistaken. If I’m wrong, I blame my friend who told me that this morning.
great recap
i also agree with you on Steve Young. hes my favorite QB as well. anyway hopefully we can get some of the redzone issues taken care of in the next preseason game. cant wait for the real games to start.
Yeah.
The Niners did great on third down, going 8-13. When was the last time that happend? Problem was, too many of those failed third down conversions were in the red zone.
I was surprised they didn’t pass more in the red zone and at least try one fade to Braylon in the end zone.
i read some of the comments
yes Joe is G.O.A.T. no doubt. but i seen Young play more, that is way hes my favorite QB of all time.
Don't read to much into it.
I wouldn’t read so much into the preseason run/pass balance. Each game there are specific things the coaches want to work on. Therefore the run/balance can be misunderstood. The early red zone play selection against the Raiders shows this.
yeah, it's one of those things
In (early) preseason you should always pound the ball on 3rd (and probably 4th) and short. Just to know your capabilities in that area. No reason to get tricky in the red zone, the points don’t count.
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unbalanced formations
unbalanced formations are a part of the West Coast Offense. Like pre-snap motion it helps to ID the defense. So if you have two TEs and on the right then if the defense shifts over more defenders to the right, there’s a good chance they’re in some sort of Man Coverage. If they slightly shift over, then they’re probably in a zone defense. The offense has the advantage running against the overloaded (right in this example) if the defenders are in a zone because there will probably be more blockers than defenders..or at least the blockers may be in better position than the defenders. If the defense is in man coverage, then the defense matches the overload side and the other side is left lightly defended. The Niners did this a few times where they would overload one side and run to the other side.
Unlike the Sing/Raye offense that had little pre-snap motion and did little to use the advantages of unbalanced formations…often running into the teeth of the defense. Both Sing and Harbaugh like the power running game but Sing’s philosophy of "not being out to fool anybody and being physical isn’t the same as using tactical advantages of running where they aren’t or running where you have the blocking advantages.
since 2004
The 49ers have had 4 games with >400 yards total offense. Two of those were overtime games.
Against the raiders sat. they had 402 yards. I know it’s preseason, but they kind of looked like a real football team.
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The past two preseason games against the Raiders...
The 49ers have rushed for over 500 yards. I find that meaningless but funny.
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Like the way you kept things in perspective , the running games comes and goes pending the men up front ...!!
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