49ers 53-Man Roster Projection: At The Halfway Mark
by David Fucillo on Aug 24, 2011 11:00 AM PDT
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PrintFooch's Note: As is already well known, I'm a moron. I had 52 players on this and not 53. I've added in Mike Person as the tentative 53rd player and unfortunately for Tre9er, he will not be in at fullback. Sorry Tre, you've just been cut.
Now halfway through the team's preseason schedule and in light of Monday's trade of Taylor Mays to the Cincinnati Bengals, now seems as good a time as any to bust out another 53-man roster projection. We have some going in the FanPosts, but I wanted to give my thoughts on how things stand as we approach Saturday's game against the Texans followed by next week's first cutdown date (to an 80-man roster).
We've been able to get an idea of what players are on the coaching staff's radar even with practices starting to get closed to the media. For example, we have an idea of the safeties Vic Fangio likes, although we're not certain how many of those safeties will make the final roster.
As we move towards the final 53-man roster, feel free to check out previous iterations of my projections to have a laugh at how wrong I'll end up being for much of this. Head after the jump to view my latest projection.
QB (3): Alex Smith, Colin Kaepernick, Josh McCown
RB (3): Frank Gore, Anthony Dixon, Kendall Hunter
FB (1): Bruce Miller, Tre9er
TE (3): Vernon Davis, Delanie Walker, Konrad Reuland
WR (6): Braylon Edwards, Michael Crabtree, Josh Morgan, Kyle Williams, Ronald Johnson, Ted Ginn
OT (3): Joe Staley, Anthony Davis, Alex Boone
OG (4 5): Mike Iupati, Chilo Rachal, Adam Snyder, Daniel Kilgore, Mike Person
C (1): Jonathan Goodwin
NT (2): Isaac Sopoaga, Ian Williams
DE (4): Justin Smith, Ray McDonald, Ricky Jean Francois, Will Tukuafu
OLB (4): Aldon Smith, Parys Haralson, Ahmad Brooks, Antwan Applewhite
ILB (4): Patrick Willis, NaVorro Bowman, Larry Grant, Blake Costanzo
CB (6): Carlos Rogers, Shawntae Spencer, Tarell Brown, Chris Culliver, Phillip Adams, Tramaine Brock
S (5): Dashon Goldson, Donte Whitner, Reggie Smith, Madieu Williams, C.J. Spillman
K (1): David Akers
P (1): Andy Lee
LOS (1): Brian Jennings
Last Four On: Antwan Applewhite, Ted Ginn, C.J. Spillman, Phillip Adams
First Four Off: Moran Norris, DeMarcus Dobbs, Curtis Taylor, Mike Person
Although Moran Norris gets a lot of crap here, he wasn't definitely one of the final decisions I made to clear room for 53 players. The fact that Bruce Miller was the first fullback to get playing time and the fact that he put together a solid performance makes me more inclined to think the team might be prepared to roll the dice with him.
DeMarcus Dobbs is having a very solid camp, but unfortunately it's a numbers game on the defensive line and he's likely to get squeezed out. I've got my fingers crossed that he'll clear waivers and end up on the 49ers practice squad.
Curtis Taylor still has practice squad eligibility and given the numbers game at safety, I don't see him making the roster. Mike Person is in a similar position, although not because of injuries (the reason Taylor is still PS-eligible). It sounds like Person has had a solid camp, but not sure it's enough to get a roster spot.
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At first I thought so too, but then I figured Ginn is a lock
Seriously, everybody thinks he could get cut (so did I) but the fact is it’s because nobody really likes him as a player. Obviously the coaching staff does, as he has started games with Morgan in the preseason and received most of the kickoff and punt return duties during the beginning of games. Can’t see him being cut, especially not for Person or Dobbs.
I think it's RoJo that is on the bubble
I could see RoJo getting cut. He hasn’t impressed in camp as far as I can tell and the 49ers have a lot of guys like him.
I think they’ll keep Dobbs because I don’t think he’d clear waivers for the PS.
this
I had high hopes for him but the fact that he isn’t getting too many looks is concerning. Plus, he could be PS’d.
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Count me among...
Those who think RoJo will be added to the practice squad. I think Lance Long has a better chance to make the roster than RoJo this year.
Also, the new kickoff rule and strong performances from Hunter and Philip Adams on punt returns makes Ginn’s roster spot less of a lock, IMO. Ginn sounds like he’s had a decent camp. But he still sounds like the same old Ginn.
Also count me among those who thinks Dobbs makes the roster. Possibly edging out Tukuafu.
Not necessarily.
Rojo is a rookie… has upside. Ginn has zero upside and we know what we get with him.. about 1000 dropped passes.
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Ginn has upside . . .
just buy him that stickup from the replacements
Ginn is better than RoJo but....
IMO Ginn isn’t getting any better….RoJo is a rookie and has more of an upside. I’d rather go with someone I can still develop rather than someone I can’t. RoJo would be cheaper to keep as well…
they can stil develop Johnson on the PS
Ginn is better right now
by whistlingmountain on Aug 24, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Practice squad.
Johnson could easily be snatched up by a team like the Bills or Jags who virtually have nobody… other teams too
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Good Point
If the coaching staff sees a future with RoJo in it…they need to make sure he’s still here!
"snatched up"
something that fans are always worried about
he was a 6th rounder, no team is going to make a waiver claim on a 6th round WR who has barely played in the pre-season.
by whistlingmountain on Aug 24, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
no team is going to make a waiver claim on a 6th round
Just to echo what is said above, has it never happened?
If someone loves his potential or was eyeballing him toward the end of the draft, it’s very possible.
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The chances are so minimal when
he’s not getting even reps in the games
The guys that get waiver claims are generally the guys who were getting solid pre-season minutes and showing good potential, but can’t make the roster because of talented depth.
Reuland, Dobbs, maybe even Person could fall into that category, but Johnson doesn’t. The 49ers are keeping him off of the field. He’s not going to get claimed onto someone’s entire season 53 man roster based on no pre-season action. If they thought that high of his college tape they would have drafted him.
by whistlingmountain on Aug 24, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
if they drafted him, they thought other teams would want him
now he’s had an NFL camp under his belt…he’s got more value at this point, to the right team
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in general, that's not how it works in practice
late round draft picks and UDFA are picked up because the team liked them and might put them on the roster once they’ve seen how they work in their system in practice ( though the vast majority of late rounders and UDFA don’t make rosters )
While it’s true that other teams may have wanted to do the same, the situation is completely different when it comes to making a waiver claim and immediately having to put them on the 53 man roster.
I noted the exceptions above, and hey maybe Johnson sees more time in the next two games. I just don’t see how he sees more time in game 3 though.
Now there might be competition for the practice squad for which he signs to. That’s another story, he may see another team as having less depth and thus be more likely to make his way onto the roster as the season progresses. Because of his connection to the 49ers coaching staff and the likelihood that he makes the roster next year though, I would think that unlikely.
Plus, even if he goes, he was a 6th round WR who doesn’t have any elite skills. Is it that big of a deal?
by whistlingmountain on Aug 25, 2011 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions
if he's signed by another team it's to their 53
if they want to PS him they have to release him, I believe, yes?
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Yes
We could just have him going back and forth between teams without ever actually playing for anybody.
by David Fucillo on Aug 25, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I can understand why people are anxious to see Ginn gone
But I think it would be pretty surprising if he didn’t make the team. I doubt the 49ers would continue to start him in the preseason games and give him all those first team reps in practice if he was in danger of getting cut.
Anything can happen, but I feel like Ginn not making the final 53 at this point would be pretty unlikely. I think the receiver listed above who is most likely to end up on the outside looking in is Ronald Johnson. He really hasn’t had much opportunity in the first two pre-season games which makes me think the team isn’t quite confident in him being ready for the regular season, but also doesn’t want him making any big plays in garbage time that might attract attention from other teams. He might be a practice squad guy.
exactly
Why would they give him so much playing time and reps if he wasn’t in their plans? (see Taylor Mays)
Call me cautiously optimistic....because I know what the Niners do to people who have real optimism (see the last 8 years).
yea i dont see the huge knock on ginn
He drops passes Yea but he’s a serious threat with the ball in his hands. Plus they said he was one of the most consistent wr in camp. Mayb they fixed his one flaw.
by RBoogy29 on Aug 24, 2011 1:17 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Dropped passes can lose a game.
Risk-reward is pretty high and not very profitable.
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so can great field position
A dropped pass is the equivalent of a pass thrown out of bounds.
by RBoogy29 on Aug 24, 2011 1:36 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
An NFL receiver needs to catch everything that hits them in the hands.
Passes bounce off Ginn’s hands like a wall.
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Mostly all of them.
Why do we need a guy like that with other guys that can actually catch a majority of the passes thrown to them?
We have other guys that can “make plays” once they catch it too.
Ginn is a waste. Shoulda been an Olympic track star; not a football player. Took the wrong path IMO
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Cornerback
he should have made the transition a Loooooong time ago to CB when he learned he couldn’t catch! That boat already sailed away…..nothing left for him now (he’s no longer a “young prospect”)
he doesn't really like contact though
so he would have had to have a college coach tell him he was playing CB or riding the bench, as happens with most recruits who switch positions.
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An ex girlfriend of mine didn't like contact either.. I had to cut her!
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what nfl wr you know catches every passes. a johnson even drop passes.
Most ginn passes that are dropped are n traffic. I don’t hear you calling for crabtress head. Edwards both them have a lot of dropped passes. Even Vernon Davis. It happens
by RBoogy29 on Aug 24, 2011 1:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
You're missing the point.
Ginn drops more passes than anyone on the team… He has done this consistently through his career. Go read some reviews from Dolphins fans. I saw it with my own eyes last year. So did a lot of other people.
Maybe we shoulda been listening to Dolphins fans when they were telling us that this guy is garbage as a receiver.
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Some other Ginn positives
1) He’s got NFL experience and plays pretty consistently (consistently bad some might say)
2) He’s a pretty darn good return guy. I seem to recall he was hurt for quite a bit last season but our returns were significantly better when he was healthy.
3) Despite generally missed expectations for someone who was a 1st round pick, he’s had some pretty impactful games in the NFL (seem to recall a Jets-Fins Monday night game where he went off).
So yes, we drafted a lot of guys who can also return. And yes, Ginn has been a goat a lot throughout his career so far. But I think the coaches still want him on the team and FO still thinks he can contribute for what they brought him in here for (returns and speed at WR).
And he's from cleveland
everyone knows cleveland rocks
Next two games will determine Tukuafu vs Dobbs
If Dobbs continues to make a splash, I think he will make it in…Tukuafu might be easier to stash away on the PS anyway, as he was cast away by SEA last year and it doesnt seem like teams were chomping at the bit for his services. Dobbs is well-known because he played in the SEC and game film from the past two weeks only strengthens his appeal.
Also, I think Ginn is virtually a lock. As Barrows pointed out, both Crabs and Edwards may be out for week 1, and even if Crabs is ready it may not be wise to put him out there without some practice reps (as we saw last yr in the opener). WIthout all three, your starters will be Morgan and probably Williams.
Dobbs has looked good, agree. hope he makes the team.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 24, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
ha! judging by the way he loves TE's
Don’t be surprised if week 1 comes around with no Edwards and no Crabtree, Harbaugh out ‘old schools’ Singletary by dishing out the single-wing and BIG set offenses.
At least there won’t be any ‘not-enough blockers’ complaints
by DaveintheUK on Aug 24, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks good...
w/out Norris of course
by Doni S on Aug 24, 2011 11:25 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah but Tre9er is not built like a fullback.
We could be in trouble.
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true, 6'1" 182lbs. is more like a WR or Punter
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I think Fooch will let you.
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Still need to see more from NT Williams
With RJF as a solid NT option, I can see Dobbs making the roster ahead of Williams.
Also, RoJo hasn’t excelled as I would like to see. With Ziggy coming in, I’m really interested to hear how he impresses upon the coaching staff. Last year Zig was continually praised for running stellar routes and catching everything thrown his way. Sounds like a player primed for a spot on a WCO.
Ziggy
If he can perform in these next two preseason games, I see him taking a spot over RoJo. Ziggy is also good for special teams and RoJo will be available for the PS.
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by Haggardninja on Aug 24, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
RoJo is a better returner
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 24, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
he is, then again, if they are locked into keeping Ginn, he's even better.
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who do you know he's a better retunrner in the NFL
Rojo may have been good in college, but that doesn’t necessarily translate
Williams, Adams, Culliver, etc..
Maybe even Hunter… there’s a bunch of guys capable of doing those.
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maybe
but none of them are proven, keep him until you have a proven replacement
Punt returners are not going to be tough to find in a bind. Even "proven" ones.
I just think it’s sort of a waste of a roster spot, personally.
We got rid of Spurlock for the same exact reason. Then we had Rossum… they are out there if it doesn’t work out with ALL five or six guys that we have that are “unproven”… but I like those odds.
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no doubt
I can think of only 2 guys in the league that might be worth a roster spot JUST for return ability: John Cribbs & Devin Hester
Everyone else should contribute elsewhere
They are both in the offense now though
because the league is changing that aspect.
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Actually we had Rossum first… that was worded incorrectly.
Point in case though.
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I agree NT Williams hasn’t shown enough to be considered over DE Dobbs who is balling this preseason. Also i rather they drop both Miller and Morris and sign Heath Evans free agent FB from Saints, but that’s my opinion so I won’t count that. I can see Harbaugh using more TE than WR packages so I don’t expect 6 to make the lineup, maybe Edwards, Crabtree, Morgan, Williams and GInn, RoJo and Zig maybe possibilities since Crabs’ foot. Beeler and Person may be added depth to the line.
Joe and Steve were under the same system for years... don't expect Kaepernick to be super so soon.
cj spillman would be my odd man out.
With costanzo being brought in for special teams, spillman may be gone. I like Dobbs to make the team. Good prediction though.
by wtlichens on Aug 24, 2011 11:27 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
I think Spillman is supposed to be some sort of ST whiz.
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Fooch, you only have 52!!!!!!!!!
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
you guys need to refresh...the problem was fixed long ago
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52?
you appear to have 52 men on your 53 man roster??
players to watch this week: ziegler, lawrie, dobbs and person
men on the edge: johnson, ginn, tukuafu and norris
the 2011 roster looks much stronger than 2010
Didn't realize any of us were counting
but after that was pointed out I would like to make a slight modification…switch Kilgore over to back-up C. That’s it…
by Doni S on Aug 24, 2011 11:39 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
well
That & Dobbs gets in…I counted
by Doni S on Aug 24, 2011 11:43 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
only 52?...WELCOME BACK NORRIS!
Just kidding…bye Moran
I think you only have 52 also, as I had the exact same roster
Except I have Norris on ( unfortunately ) and Ronald Johnson off.
Wragge was also on my roster.
by whistlingmountain on Aug 24, 2011 11:38 AM PDT reply actions
Not sure on RoJo. 50/50. Maybe Lance Long or just 5 WR's (though I think it's 6)
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I was going back and forth on whether the Niners would keep 5 or 6 WR's
I think it might come down to whether or not Braylon Edwards receives a suspension. With Crabtree’s foot injury and Edwards’ possible suspension I think the Niners will carry 6 receivers to keep from being short handed for week 1.
I think it depends...
On how they can contribute on special teams. Kyle Williams’ stock goes way up in that regard. I can see them keeping RoJo but not RoJo and Ginn. That’s why I think RoJo goes to the PS.
Long’s had a good pre-season. I could see them keeping him on the roster.
In a Fanpost about this, I took a shot at my 53. Fooch, you and I were VERY similar, but...
…I had a couple of ideas that I think were pretty unique, and I’d like to get some feedback on them.
First: I waived McCown and went with two QBs on the 53, put McBLT on the PS to run scout team in practice. My thinking was that nobody will claim McCown off waivers, he’ll go back to coaching high school football like he was before we signed him, and if either Alex or Kaep should be injured, we then bring McCown back…
Second: I cut Ginn (I’ve NEVER liked him, railed against the trade when it was 1st made, and want him gone) and went with 5 receivers, but I carried two receivers on the PS (I put Long on the 53 instead of RoJo, put RoJo on the PS)
Third: I kept an additional OL, Wragge, because of his versatility
Last: I kept 6 ILBs, the 4 Fooch kept plus both McKillop and Kristick, because they’re both such good STers
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
I thought my proposal to go with only two QBs would be very controversial, but NOBODY has
commented on it.
Also, my PS contained: Dobbs (but someone informed me that Tukuafu still has PS eligibility, so I now switch them, putting Dobbs on the 53 and Tukuafu on the PS), Nelms, two of Jones, Curtis Taylor, and Maragos (depending upon which of Taylor or Maragos has PS eligibility), McBLT, RoJo, Jurovich (two here because I only kept 5 on the 53), and Person.
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
we'd all like the team to carry only two QBs
but no one expects the team to take that risk
I love Adam Snyder as an every position OL
Thank goodness he isn’t penciled in as a starter, and can get reps at every position. He’s much more valuable to this team as depth. Daniel Kilgore has looked pretty strong so far, and I like the potential depth the OL has. Two more preseasons to go to figure out if the first week vs. NO was an aberration or not. Depth doesn’t mean much if the starters stink.
From a defensive standpoint, I think the 49ers defense may surprise some people this season. The secondary is actually looking half-way respectable. San Fran’s had a pretty solid front seven for a few seasons, it’s about time the secondary catches up. Hopefully Carlos Rogers doesn’t have injuries lingering all season.
by Andrew Davidson on Aug 24, 2011 11:39 AM PDT reply actions
i think the only reason snyder is getting reps at center
is so he’s ready in case goodwin goes down, since he’s basically the only backup. goodwin won a freaking superbowl at the position, he doesn’t need the reps.
Goodwin needs reps with the 1st team
in order to get timing down & to work on the center/QB exchange with Alex. I hope he starts or at least get 1st teams reps this weekend against the Texans.
two more pre-season games for Goodwin to get more reps
+ I’m guessing that Harbaugh & Co are considering all the angles, and have mapped out how Goodwin & Snyder will divvy reps in practice and during the pre-season.
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I think Wragge or Person makes it too...you've only got 8 OL's
they will keep 9 I think, exactly 9.
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there is a small chance that both even make it,“small”
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 24, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
the competition is going to be fierce between the last two remaining above.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 24, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
1 FB with an extra TE?
I think MIller as lone FB works if we continue to line up tight ends as fullbacks. Person looks good on OL. How about a 4th tight end… Lawrie… since they are such good blockers with good hands and they can play both positions…?
How is Reuland looking as a blocker?
Last year we had a pretty good blocking tight end in Byham who could move into the backfield as a lead blocker. Walker isn’t really known for his blocking, and the word from camp is that Harbaugh would like Reuland to gain some weight and improve his strength as a blocker. If the 49ers don’t have that strong blocking tight end they may be more reluctant to use a TE in the backfield.
Niners Have Awesome Tight Ends
Vernon is the best tight end when including his blocking abilities. Walker is an excellent tight end and he has added weight to significantly improved his blocking skills. Reuland looks like a very good blocker, especially when blocking linebackers and d-backs as a lead blocker out of the backfield. Yes, he needs to add some weight, but I think this is to better handle defensive ends and tackles. Nate Lawrie is an experienced tight end known blocking specialist. I hope Nate gets some reps with second team this week/weekend. We shall see!
Walker motions into backfield a lot
Reuland will also.
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2 FBs?
I don’t think there will be 2 FBs on the 53 because our backup TEs can play the position in a pinch. 1 FB is plenty in today’s football
Tre9er will go to the PS... can't block or catch... he needs work
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I can catch
better than Norris anyways, wait…that’s not helping my cause much
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Wragge got high marks from JH and also helped spring Hunter's long run Saturday
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although Dobbs could take that spot too
He’s shown a lot and would get picked up if released, I feel.
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by Tre9er on Aug 24, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think Tukuafu may be gone or Ian Williams may be a surprise shocking cut.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 24, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I like all three, though!
And depth on the DL is key! Those big guys get tired/hurt and you’re in trouble!
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It's a tough call, but 7 Dlineman for a 3-4 team is kind of a lot
Escpecially because lineman generally aren’t as useful on special teams as other positions.
I know, I just think any of those 3 they release will get snatched up.
Especially Williams who was wanted by other teams and NT’s are rare to find.
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I don't think...
The Niners risk the loss of Williams or Dobbs. They’re building for the future. I’d think they’d rather have the young guys get the reps during the regular season so they have something to build on next year.
maybe ted ginn jr should retire with moran norris this year?
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Yes...like Russ Francis
please, give them both some parachute lessons…
I am not sure that the niners will cut scott mckillop over constanzo
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he hasnt played much over the last few wks
might cut him, wait till he fully recovers, and sign him off the street if need be
by Rep the Bay on Aug 24, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I actually laughed at that. Imagine the hilarity of the presumed starting quarterback getting cut before the season. Too close Denver?
denver is doing a wonderful pr blitz to ruin tim tebow's career.
they should just cut or trade him instead of talking so much about him
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 24, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
They will trade/release him at some point
Tebow is in a similar situation that Taylor Mays was in: 1. previous regime’s draft pick 2. immense physical skills but lack basic NFL skillset 3. Behind in depth chart to capable starter(s)
I’m not saying either guy WILL make it in the NFL, but both COULD giving the proper system/coaching. I just seriously doubt the Denver FO will give Tebow that chance. It’d be interesting to see what team will pick up Tebow later on down the road
Seiously?
What were they thinking….Leinart is not a pro-bowler but what were the alternatives? Anderson? 2 late round rookies? Maybe the FO in SF isn’t the worst in the NFC West lol
Leinart is not even a starter
but he’s a solid back-up who would have at least got them through the season. I think Arizona might have actually tanked the season last year on purpose.
Who knows?
I don’t think THEY even knew what they were trying to do…
zing!!!!
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 24, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I really, reeeaally hope that Dobbs makes it over Tukafu.
Dobbs’ potential shouts “special player”… Will Tukafu.. .not so much.
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Plus, Dobbs is just a great story.. and then a movie... is this deja vu ?
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Yeah but... with Dobbs you couldn't call it that...
It would have to be like “The Blind Side Hits” or “Stuff the Run” or “The Dark Side”
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Actually
I’d move Tre9er to QB and trade McClown for a 7th rounder
by Doni S on Aug 24, 2011 1:04 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Not possible
There’s no team in the league that will trade anything for McClown (the raiders already had him, and the bengals….well actually the bengals might be stupid enough ROFL)
Woot Woot
I’d actually rather have Carr than McClown (Wow….did I just say that?)
What about Washington?
All they’ve got are Beck and Grossman…
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I think Shanahan is trying hard to be in the Andrew Luck Lottery
seriously…Beck and Grossman? That’s like having Tim Rattay & Ken Dorsey…we all know how that turned out
once again...
I can’t throw. Maybe hand off, maybe a pitch. I am only good in a Mike Singletary offense
Give Tomsula Ian Williams and Demarcus Dobbs to work with and develop (while rostered).
Ray McDonald, Sopoaga, and Justin Smith…with RJF as the alternate/ backup for each of those positions.
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Look for Dobbs or Williams to sustain an injury in the final preseason game (or maybe even the Texans game) and be placed on IR. Other teams cannot grab a player off of the IR. The other guy makes the 53 man roster with Smith, Sopoaga, McDonald, Jean-Francois and Tukuafu. .
by claude balls on Aug 24, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Tomsula is the Man!
I totally agree with you….I think he can develop the younger guys. Definitely worth a shot
Tomsula
He looks like Ron Jeremy
by Tantrum16 on Aug 24, 2011 1:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
ROFL it's funny cuz it's true!
Maybe that’s why he’s a good motivator…..everybody loves Ron
Pardon my ignorance, but I at least recognize the names of most current or former NFL
players, but I don’t recognize the Ron Jermey name. What position did he play, and who did he play for?
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
Ron Jeremy
is a famous “adult” actor ….and he looks like Tomsula
if you're noticing the guys in porno's
then you’re doing something wrong haha
by sanfranfanmdk on Aug 24, 2011 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions
That explains it. Thanks for the enlightenment.
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
so tre is moran norris
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
I think
Tre would be an upgrade over Norris. How about it #2 fullback? Got any blocking skills on ya?
by Doni S on Aug 24, 2011 1:46 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I love to hit people in the mouth
wait, I think I’m a regime too late
Aldon Smith will have 10 sacks in 2011.
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Are you....
Physical with an “F”? (Singletary was entertaining….you gotta admit that)
Forget about Tre...
I would rather play with 10 men that sold out and get penalized all the way… than to…
I forgot the rest of that rant…
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Here you go... I could not remember it totally so I just posted it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB5-yJM3vJc
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I like this one better though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoMmbUmKN0E&NR=1&feature=fvwp
Mike Gundy takes the cake
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wait, where's the parody of Sing's speech, "I want dinner"
THAT made me LOL a lot
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here, HI-LARIOUS
http://www.ninersnation.com/2010/9/13/1686406/very-interesting-singletary
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HAHAHA "QB Hasselhoff or whatever"
Q: Can you explain your defense?
SINGLETARY: All of a sudden, boom, they come out and that old QB Hasselhoff or whatever, Lockdown bites hard on a route. WR torches him. It happens again. Quarterback sits comfortably in the pocket, touchdown.
You know what? We cannot play like that. I just talked to the player and he said, ‘Coach, I promise you, it’ll never happen again.’ I know that. But it happened today.
My all time Favorite rant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_N1OjGhIFc
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Dobbs for RoJo
Safer to try and stash RoJo on the Practice Squad than Dobbs, and there are plenty of RoJos out there if another team decides to pick him off. Also, it’s probably not necessary to keep 6 WR, since Harbaugh so often uses multiple tight ends.
We need WRs
3 reasons why: 1. Crabtree’s foot 2. Edwards possible suspension 3. Ginn’s terrible hands (we can cut later….but it’s better to stock up on WRs now
After a few weeks of watching this team can actually share some educated opinions on the roster
FB:
It would seem odd for this team to carry two FBs. Miller might a get tryout Saturday against the Texans to knock Norris off the roster. If not the team probably carries Norris on the roster and Miller on the PS until at some point during the season Miller replaces him permanently.
WR:
Can’t see RoJo making the roster. He seems destined for PS along with Long simply because it would be easy to stash them there and both don’t appear to be ready. With Crabs and BE likely missing Wk 1 possibly this keeps Zeigler on the roster, yet I still think Long has a chance to beat out Ziggy.
OLine:
The last one or two roster spots still appear up for grabs and will be settled the next two weeks. So far Goodwin looks like a horrible signing. Snyder and Wragge have performed better, which is fairly damning statement because both have been poster childs in the struggling department. He needs to improve quickly or the 49ers admit to a mistake or cut a deserving player. Person has been decent at RT but numbers indicate his only spot is on the PS.
DLine:
Haven’t seen anything from Ian Williams to warrant a roster spot. He even platoons in preseason games with a guy unlikely to make the roster. Dobbs clearly looks like the prospect worth saving on the 53-man roster based on preseason games so far. Will Tukuafu is almost a lock to make the roster. Williams gets picked up by someone else but the 49ers have nothing invested in him to justify keeping him around.
CB:
Phillip Adams will make the roster. He has shown enough while Shawntae Spencer days with the 49ers appears to be ending. If Spencer were healthy I get the feeling the 49ers would be finding reasons to cut him. He doesn’t appear to fit Fangio’s mold I see forming. If he does get a pass onto the roster, he needs to play at his 2009 level or I don’t see him finishing the season with the team.
ILB:
If the 49ers need to get creative they could go with three to start the season like last year. After Larry Grant no one else has stood out. Keep the guy willing to float on the PS til needed.
Goodwin
What have you seen that makes you think he’s a horrible signing? He hasn’t had many reps to date….that has to account for something
I would call him a horrible signing because so far because Snyder and Wragge have looked better. In addition, Snyder/Wragge combined are cheaper than Goodwin. It’s a small sample size and things can change. However Goodwin was about the only O-Linemen on the depth chart Saturday who did not push around the Raiders, in fact he was about the only to get pushed around.
What leads you to believe Tukafu is a lock?
I haven’t seen him do anything close to deserving a roster spot.
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His listed spot on the depth chart and the praise he gets from Tomsula
I haven’t seen him stand out in preseason game yet either but I don’t think he has played poorly. He could be Demetric Evans in disguise out there but he made the roster because he was non-descript and had the coaching staff’s trust.
What praise? Is there specific articles that I missed?
Preseason depth charts are about as valuable as toilet paper in regards to back up spots.
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From what I remember foot notes about being in Tomsula’s favor in either Barrows and Maiocco roster breakdowns. I’ve seen it mentioned twice, once at the start of camp and once last week. Definitely made it sound like it would be an upset if Tukafu doesn’t make the roster.
Hmm...
Anyway, in both games so far (and I’ve watched both more than a normal person should) I have not been very impressed with Tukafu. Dobbs has stood out a lot.
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Corrected
Sorry about the mistake on the 53-man roster. I added Mike Person in for now as he is as good an option for 53rd man as anybody for now. Although, Dobbs could fight his way on as well. Refresh the page if you’re not seeing it.
McKillop is done
hasn’t been on the field enough, was “accidentally” listed as waived (which I believe was no mistake, really) and there are other guys the ST’s coach likes more.
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looks good
Though I would drop Person, and keep Wragge.
Take out Will Tukuafu, and add in
My personal “He’s our Future” choice, DeMarcus Dobbs. Also, the another change I see as plausible/probable is take out Person or Kilgore and add in Wragge.
Also, take out Blake Costanzo and throw in Kenny Rowe, ust really a personal choice. I like what Rowe brings to the table. He might be undersized, but like many quality players, he can make up for it with his determination, drive, and heart.
Overall, I pretty much agree with the projections, of course except the previously mentioned three player swaps, and I’m really starting to like what this team could look like.
I’m personally just hoping that we can PS a an extra man in the secondary to make room for a Kelvin Hayden Signing. If the reports are accurate and he signs with the Bears, who he plans to visit Monday and is strongly interested in. It is possible/likely that the Bears could Part ways with former Colt and UGA CB Tim Jennings. If they did, picking up Jennings would be a great move for this team.
He is aggressive in the run game, he has a knack to be around the ball, and while he does not necessarily have the size you would like (which leads to not many INT’s) he does have the ability to regularly deflect and disrupt passes, he can take on team’s number 2’s regularly with success, or he can succeed wonderfully for this team in a nickel role. It’s a longshot, but he could be a potentially outstanding pickup and could help put the finishing touches in solidifying/remodeling this team’s secondary.
Sometimes I wake up grumpy; other times I let her sleep.
Kenny Rowe
He kinda looks like Singletary from back in the day. Build, eyes, everything.
I’d rather have him than Scott McKillop
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Rowe is an OLB though
Costanzo and McKillop, Kristick, etc. are all ILB’s.
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