49ers 53-Man Roster Projection After Three Weeks
by David Fucillo on Aug 29, 2011 10:00 AM PDT
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PrintThe 49ers have made it through three games of the preseason and the most significant positive thus far is that they've avoided too many significant injuries. They lost some guys in the first week of camp, but otherwise it's mostly been garden-variety bumps and bruises.
This has been a tough preseason for prognosticating the 53-man roster. It's never an exact science, but this preseason is all the more difficult. The lockout shortened up offseason preparations considerably and one has to imagine all the more emphasis will go into practice and classroom work. The coaching staff can't ignore what happened on the field and Coach Harbaugh seemed to indicate accordingly in his conference call yesterday.
After the jump check out my latest 53-man roster presentation and a few comments on my choices.
QB (3): Alex Smith, Colin Kaepernick, Josh McCown
RB (3): Frank Gore, Anthony Dixon, Kendall Hunter
FB (1): Moran Norris, Bruce Miller
TE (3): Vernon Davis, Delanie Walker, Konrad Reuland
WR (5): Braylon Edwards, Michael Crabtree, Josh Morgan, Kyle Williams, Ted Ginn
OT (3): Joe Staley, Anthony Davis, Alex Boone
OG (5): Mike Iupati, Chilo Rachal, Adam Snyder, Daniel Kilgore, Mike Person
C (1): Jonathan Goodwin
NT (2): Isaac Sopoaga, Ian Williams
DE (4): Justin Smith, Ray McDonald, Ricky Jean Francois, Demarcus Dobbs
OLB (4): Aldon Smith, Parys Haralson, Ahmad Brooks, Antwan Applewhite
ILB (4): Patrick Willis, NaVorro Bowman, Larry Grant, Blake Costanzo
CB (6): Carlos Rogers, Shawntae Spencer, Tarell Brown, Chris Culliver, Phillip Adams, Tramaine Brock
S (5): Dashon Goldson, Donte Whitner, Reggie Smith, Madieu Williams, C.J. Spillman
K (1): David Akers
P (1): Andy Lee
LOS (1): Brian Jennings
Last Four On: Ted Ginn, C.J. Spillman, Phillip Adams, Moran Norris
First Four Off: Will Tukuafu, Curtis Taylor, Ronald Johnson, Dominique Zeigler
While I know some folks think Moran Norris might as well be gone with the first ten roster cuts, I think he is a guy who is as much a bubble candidate as anybody. I've got him back on the roster this week, with Ronald Johnson as my latest cut. It's probably an overreaction to his big time struggles on Saturday, but I'm just not sure what to make of him for now. I'd say Moran Norris is my biggest bubble player right now in part because I just don't know how the coaching staff feels about him.
Speaking of the wide receiver position, it opens the door to a lot of questions, particularly between Johnson, Ted Ginn and Dominique Zeigler. Given the fact that the team has Vernon Davis and Delanie Walker as their tight ends, they could easily slot them into wide receiver roles in four and five receiver packages. And in fact the 49ers will use them at times in those roles, even if they keep six receivers. However, given the personnel at their disposal, I could very well see the team keeping only five wide receivers.
Other than that the only significant change was going with Demarcus Dobbs over Will Tukuafu. It seemed like Tukuafu had a solid enough performance on Saturday (we'll hit the film on that), Dobbs has really made some eye-popping plays. I think this is still a battle that will go down to the wire this week in practice and on Thursday during the game. I'm not sure how well it would work, but maybe get a series or two with Dobbs and Tukuafu both on the line at the same time?
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Really only seem to be a couple of roster battles going on at this point
Kristick vs Costanzo
Wragge vs Person
Tukuafu vs Williams vs Dobbs for 2 spots
by whistlingmountain on Aug 29, 2011 10:05 AM PDT reply actions
Costanzo is the Special Team Leader. No question
by Tantrum16 on Aug 29, 2011 10:11 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Keep Tukuafu; cut Norris
If Harbaugh feels two fullbacks are needed, pick up another team’s waiver. My guess is that with a tight-end heavy offense, we could do just fine with only Miller on the roster. If he is injured, they can always resign Norris; I can’t see another team wasting a roster spot on him.
by OffensiveInterference on Aug 29, 2011 10:21 AM PDT reply actions
He actually has Norris and Miller counting as one FB.. i think they only keep one.
So if you want Tukuafu, like I do, then they would have to cut another player
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He has Miller and Norris counting as one, but I believe that's just a typo,
as I only count 53 players. So dropping Norris would be enough to open a roster spot.
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Kaepernick is some kind of Montana/Young/Roosevelt hybrid, and will absolutely ruin the NFL experience for the other 31 teams and their few fans.
Thanks.. I went by the numers.. either way.. Norris has to go!
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Agreed.
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Kaepernick is some kind of Montana/Young/Roosevelt hybrid, and will absolutely ruin the NFL experience for the other 31 teams and their few fans.
I dont see wragge being cut
I dont see them releaseing wragge he can play to many postions. on the line. i am not saying he was a dominate player or anything. But persons seems more expendable just my 2 cents.
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by foreveryoung66 on Aug 29, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
I just don’t get Norris. Even his blocking isn’t what it used to be. And that was about the only thing he brought to the team.
Seeing alot of "Norris isn't worth a roster spot" already
So assuming this is what the final 52 minus Norris would look like, and I think there is a great chance of it, who is the 53rd man?
Another WR? O-Line? Safety?
WR
I say go with WR right now, because who knows if Crabtree will play or if Edwards is on suspension….Once they are back for sure, then you can make a cut (or two) IMO.
RoJo looked horrible in game 3…..gotta go with Zeigler here unless RoJo does something “over the top awesome” in the final preseason game.
I'd think it'd be Tukuafu or Wragge
Basically guys who are getting cut for younger players who shouldn’t be seeing the field ( Person/Williams )
by whistlingmountain on Aug 29, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
One change I would make
I would cut Norris or put Person on the practice squad thus clearing 1 more roster spot for a wide-receiver.
Fooch, my 53 is identical to yours with regards to the "D" and Special Teams, except...
I’ve made these proposals before, but I like ’em, so here they are again:
Waive McCown and go with only two QBs. Nobody will claim him off waivers, he goes back to coaching high school football, but he does have a rudimentary knowledge of the offense. It either Smith or Kaepernick should be injured, resign him and bring him back. Opens up one roster spot.
Waive Norris and go with only one FB. With multiple TE sets, the FB will only be on the field for a portion of the plays, anyway. Opens up another roster spot.
Because LBs andare such good Special Teams players, fill both these roster spots with extra LBs… I keep both McKillop and Kristick.
Waive Ginn. I kept Long instead, others might prefer to keep Zeigler instead. Either way…
I keep Person, Tukuafu, RoJo, all mentioned above, on the PS.
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
Oops!!! Just noticed a discrepancy...
I kept Wragge on the 53 instead of Person, Person to the PS
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
QB
While I could see the team keeping two QBs, given Kaepernick’s struggles recently, I’m not sure they’d be completely comfortable with that.
by David Fucillo on Aug 29, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Especially with the O-line play
We may need another QB on the roster. If that doesn’t improve, I can’t see Alex surviving through week 8.
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by Haggardninja on Aug 29, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Reading both these posts gave me an idea. Instead of one QB and one RB why not two QBs setup like a two RB set.
That will confuse the defense long enough for one of them to actually get the ball and throw it… hopefully to one of our WRs.
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by Eastbayjim on Aug 29, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dang , we may need another Eight Qb's on the roster if the O Line doesn't improve ...!!
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cant see going...
With 2 QBs, and keeping Long over Ginn. Ginn has had a great camp.
Norris should be, but i can see him staying.
Im all for Kristick or McKillop, just not over costanzo.
"Im all for Kristick or McKillop, just not over costanzo"
Fooch kept Patrick Willis, NaVorro Bowman, Larry Grant, and Blake Costanzo as his ILBs. I kept everybody Fooch kept on D, which means I kept Costanzo, PLUS I kept BOTH Kristick AND McKillop because of their special teams prowess, using the two slots I freed up by waiving McCown and Norris.
I’m 99.44% certain that if we waive McCown, we can sign him back at any time we want should either Smith or Kaep be injured, so waiving him isn’t exactly like only having 2 QBs. Plus, I PS’d McBLT because we have to have a QB to run the scout team…
Long’s had a great camp, as well, and you’ll get a lot more help in the running game from downfield blocking from Long than you will from Ginn…
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
*"Because LBs are such good Special Teams players,"
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
I hope we can keep mckillop over constanza, if they keep 4 ILB. personally I hope we keep three ILB and are able to add one more OLB who can rush the passer. also would rather have one more wr than keeping moran norris but I can see how that may be possible in keep moran.
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The 4th ILB is just a special teamer
There’s no other OLB ready rush the passer. Rowe will probably be PS.
The 49ers are going to rely heavily on blitzes to get pressure.
by whistlingmountain on Aug 29, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I am hoping a team cuts someone decent.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 29, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Norris doesn't even deserve to be
on any teams’ PS, let alone a 53-man roster. I don’t know if our coaching staff sees that though; I’d hope they would, given his horrible performance through this preseason thus far…
So here are a couple of questions for you Fooch: Does coach H ever read what we fans post on here? And if he so, do you think he’d take our comments into consideration on whether someone makes the cut?
by Doni S on Aug 29, 2011 11:28 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Coach Harbaugh
I’m not sure if he reads what fans post, and even if he did, I’d be pretty surprised if he took it into consideration. While fans see the game performance, most of us see little to no practice time (outside of public practices).
by David Fucillo on Aug 29, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
he might read a post and take it into consideration if NN names his spider friend.
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2011/08/26/gameday-harbaughs-web/
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 29, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
practice??
please tell me Coach isn’t deciding who starts based on whether someone is having good practice sessions. Because Norris…he sucks when it comes to actually playing in a game. Aye-yai-yai
by Doni S on Aug 29, 2011 12:10 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
and I for 1 seriously doubt any amount of practice is gonna help Norris in his game play…or lack thereof
by Doni S on Aug 29, 2011 12:25 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
did the spider story upset you?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 29, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
no, but then Moran Norris starting at FB most certainly would…
by Doni S on Aug 29, 2011 8:05 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
It’s pretty obvious that Jimmy Raye never did. He didn’t even know who Yahoo was.
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by Haggardninja on Aug 29, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Too funny , Hey coach Roman , what do you think of keeping Norris , well ( Doni S ) sats he doesn't deserve to be on any roster , so that's a big fat ( NOPE ) ...!!
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if Norris gets cut Tuesday, do I get any fist bumps?
by Doni S on Aug 29, 2011 8:02 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Cut Alex Smith!!
No 49ers roster projection can be complete without a Cut Alex Smith!! comment board post.
Or can it??
Play to Win!
i guess you are right
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 29, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Given the OL
A Smith haters may enjoy seeing him pummeled. Play Smith => keep Kaepernick healthy!
by (site decorum) on Aug 29, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
It was horrific
I actually thought the Alex Smith lovers benefited so we can have another week of them blaming the offensive line and keeping the spotlight of Alex Smith’s play when he had time in specific.
by asmithisaverage on Aug 29, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
why do i have to pick a side?
the QBs and the OLine are struggling. to blame one only seems to excuse the other.
I agree
The coach seems to be saying the whole team is going through a learning process.
I think the best approch for us, the audience of this show, is to be patient, wait and see what happens next.
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I really like the projection.
I hope that is exactly how it pans out.
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you want moran norris on the team? lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 29, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I think Wragge makes it
The OL needs some veterans, and Wragge is a pretty decent back-up. If someone goes down at G or C, Wragge could step in. Snyder is getting plenty of reps at C this season, but is also a guy you can plug in at G and even T. Having two reliable guys like that can help an OL greatly. Although, I guess Kilgore will be a guy the Niners can use at G or T too. Maybe Wragge isn’t as necessary, so I could live with Person being on over him.
Moran Norris, I hate to dog on him while the pile is high, but he needs to go. Maybe Harbaugh can get Reuland some time at FB this Thursday. Norris really doesn’t contribute a lot, it’s time to move on. You can never have too many DL, so Tukuafu would be a nice alternative.
by Andrew Davidson on Aug 29, 2011 11:39 AM PDT reply actions
Anyone else find it odd...
…that ginn has started this preseason. He looks good but it’s just odd that edwards isn’t getting those reps considering he’ll be the one playing in that spot.
by MNY49 on Aug 29, 2011 11:39 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
spencer has not played in a game yet, how much has he practiced?
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So Moran Norris any good at pass blocking
Actually only Scott McKillop and Dominique Zeigler are the only non eligible on the practice squad. RoJo, Will Tukuafu, Lace Long, Xavier,etc can all go on the PS. They haven’t shown enough during preseason that another team would be willing to put them on their 53 men roster.
I would be opened to keep Norris and McCown. Just cut them when we find someone better.
Nope
Norris is one of those guys you look at and go…“how the heck did he make it into the NFL?”
then I rather keep another WR
I don’t think Crabtree will be ready.
no way... Moran was decent once.
Harbaughcalypse Now
Andre Gurode anyone?
Would anyone consider signing the recently released cowboy’s center?
Joe and Steve were under the same system for years... don't expect Kaepernick to be super so soon.
Reggie Smith will be back this week
When do you think he will start?
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good question
Curious to see how they work him back in.
by David Fucillo on Aug 29, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Considering
how it has been noted that Madieu Williams is still in contention for a starting spot and Goldson is still in the mix. I am thinking that Smith wont be starting until one of them falters.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 29, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
didn't Smith play SS last year?
thus isn’t he actually a backup for Whitner?
RJF listed as DE rather than NT?
My thoughts would be that WR, TE, DE, ILB, CB and S look quite good on that roster. QB, FB, OT, not very good. Other positions just OK.
spillman playing defense scares me, hope that does not happen
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 29, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
This nuance is to justify keeping Ian Williams
If RFD can’t play NT, then i think we should cut him. Otherwise we should cut Williams. No point in having 3rd string NTs hanging around when next year we will have to strongly consider spending a 1st round pick on one if we really are keeping our commitment to the 3-4.
by asmithisaverage on Aug 29, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
It does feel like a bit of a weakness, potentially. I never really understood the notion that RJF (who I believe was undrafted) could adequately replace a franchise player like Aubrayo Franklin. Soap isn’t really a NT either is he? So, as you say, you do wonder if it starts to be an area they will look to address properly. Trouble is we have a few areas to address in that draft, even if the secondary has been largely addressed in free agency.
RFD?
What am I missing? Who is RFD?
by OffensiveInterference on Aug 29, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm guessing...
he means Ricky Jean Francois (RJF)
by David Fucillo on Aug 29, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks
I wasn’t sure since reedkrase also referenced RFD also.
by OffensiveInterference on Aug 29, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
RJF
I probably could just as easily list him as DL. The 49ers use him at both NT and DE.
by David Fucillo on Aug 29, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
My question is if RJF isn't ahead of Ian Williams
is he really ahead of anyone on the depth chart? If not, why are we keeping him on the 53? It is ok to cut someone if you never plan to play them even if they get picked up by another team.
I’m just incredulous Ian Williams walks on and is better than RFD that quickly. But if it is true, why are we so committed to RFD? Dobbs certainly looks better at DE.
by asmithisaverage on Aug 29, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
RJF
RJF is the primary utility guy on the defensive line. He’s basically the fourth defensive lineman. Ian Williams will be kept in part because they would likely be unable to slip him through waivers to the practice squad. I’d imagine RJF would play at nose tackle before Ian Williams and will be spelling Sopoaga.
by David Fucillo on Aug 29, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Then why we giving a spot to Ian Williams?
Is he ready to play week 10? I don’t see the reason for keeping him. It isn’t like there aren’t other NT candidates out there in 2012.
by asmithisaverage on Aug 29, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
NT
The team automatically has seven players inactive each week and usually it’s a lot of repeat players. Williams was going to be a third or fourth round pick before a season-ending injury dropped him out of the draft. If you can get a full year of work with the guy and learning the playbook I’d argue there’s a lot of value in that.
by David Fucillo on Aug 29, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
My 53 are the same as yours' with these exceptions ...
Offense
1. Cut Norris (surprise!!) and add Ziegler.
2. Keep Wragge on the 53 and put Person on the PS.
Defense
1. Keep Tukuafu on the 53 and put Ian Williams on the PS.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Aug 29, 2011 1:03 PM PDT reply actions
Williams won't last on PS...
Given the interest other teams showed in him after the Lockout ended, it’s likely he’d be snatched away.
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by Young_To_Rice on Aug 29, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
You don't stash someone on your 53 man roster just to keep them away from other teams
you put them there because you believe they can take over due to injury or develop into a starter during this season. Is Ian Williams going to be our NT next year? If the answer is no, why are we giving him a roster spot?
by asmithisaverage on Aug 29, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
next year
If you think you can develop him for next year, why not keep him around. They’ve got two RJF to fill in for Sopoaga at NT if needed. It’s a long term view and it’s not like the roster is loaded with guys like that.
by David Fucillo on Aug 29, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I would say you don't keep him around because we have other needs this season
and can draft or signed a NT next year. If Williams is truly a 3rd round talent, then you probably have a point. I’m just not the biggest fan of developing 3rd string talent right now. We need 1st and 2nd string talent as a priority.
by asmithisaverage on Aug 29, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
like?
I’m not sure the guys who would be on the roster in his place are much in the way of first string talent at this point.
by David Fucillo on Aug 29, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I know that is true
but the FO should be looking very carefully at the waiver wire come Friday.
by asmithisaverage on Aug 29, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Defensive linemen typically take longer than any other position to develop to pro level.
That’s exactly why you keep them and develop them. Their ceilings are way up there.
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We kept Boone because Sims was an expensive stop-gap swing-tackle
So that would make RFD our Sims? ugh
by asmithisaverage on Aug 29, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
last season
we kept boone on the roster and inactive for all but the last game simply to keep him from getting picked up by other teams. so yes, teams stash players they think will develop on their 53 man rosters to keep them from going to other teams.
Yes but that's not the only reason
Its because you believe that player can be activated and play that season as well. If you are just keeping them on your roster to keep them from playing elsewhere, that’s not defensible.
If I recall, last year Boone was pushing Sims pretty hard in preseason. Is either RFD or Williams pushing Soap? Doesn’t seem like it.
by asmithisaverage on Aug 29, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Williams only needs to push RFD
Simms was a backup, not a starter. Again, I think there’s value in keeping a couple backups on your roster that you think are worth developing. Ian Williams falls in this spot in my opinion.
Swing tackle is really a 3rd starting tackle
We paid Sims $2.1M for a reason.
by asmithisaverage on Aug 29, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
why was alex boon on the roster last year then?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 29, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
I am projecting Norris to be gone tomorrow. They have absolutely no use for him. He really doesn’t being anything to the table at this point. The fact that Miller saw action before Norris did against Oakland is telling as to how the coaching staff views Norris.
I would also keep Wragge and try to put Person on the PS squad. We need NFL-ready offensive linemen, Person isn’t.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 29, 2011 1:10 PM PDT reply actions
using Miller before Norris
Not necessarily. Given Miller’s limited action as a fullback it makes sense to get him more snaps. I’m not saying you’re wrong about Norris, but I don’t think it’s quite as cut and dried as that.
by David Fucillo on Aug 29, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
It isn't
but tre9er and I were having a conversation the other day. And, it seemed that we were both in agreement in regards to how many blocks Norris whiffed on against the Raiders. My count was five.
Even if Miller is just an average full back at this point, he brings more to the table than Norris does.
The 49ers could/should also consider Tony Richardson and Madison Hedgecock as possibilities.
Norris is a major liability right now.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 29, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
why cut him before the final date?
this first round of cuts will be mainly UDFAs that have little value. Cut only as many as you have to. Seth, Beiler, Hastings, Hall, etc are the guys that’ll be cut tomorrow.
Yeah
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When are the two dates for the cuts?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 29, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Some teams made their cuts yesterday and today
So, we may hear something before the end of the day
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 29, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
i believe Harbs stated he'd wait for Tuesdays deadline and then saturday after the game.
no link to that though, sorry
49ers play Thursday
so it would make more sense to do the final cuts on Friday. At least to give some of the players a chance to catch on. It would also give the 49ers an opportunity to look through the scraps of other released players.
At least the cuts that are obvious.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 29, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it unbalanced...
to keep 5 guards and 3 tackles? It seems to me tackles get abused more, at least in the passing game (especially lately).
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guards/tackles
Adam Snyder can play all five offensive line positions last I heard. Also, Person has played a lot of tackle in the preseason.
by David Fucillo on Aug 29, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
operative word being
‘can’ I presume…
by Doni S on Aug 29, 2011 2:17 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
does anyone else think the abundence of Norris hate is useless?
i dont mean to down play the FB position- its important in the WCO, but there seems to be plenty of weak spots and question marks on this team to be so hyper focused on what they do with Morran Norris..am i missing something here?
Because we have a better guy on the roster
and he can’t do anything
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Norris can do something; it’s just that playing the FB position in the NFL isn’t one of them
by Doni S on Aug 29, 2011 2:32 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Would you say the same about playing with only ten men on the field? That’s what Norris does to us
by mcwagner on Aug 29, 2011 2:00 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
haha
ok ok! i give up. i dont want to get thrown off this blog.
Norris is awful! Boo!
I am no longer going to name my first born Moran!
Lance long
I hate to see him go. He hasn’t been too shabby. I hope they keep him on the ps. I think the zeigler experiment has home on long enough. He hasn’t proven he can stay healthy but I hope he prices me wrong.
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Lance Long will be re-signed somwhere like Buffalo or Jax
There’s no way he doesn’t get on someones roster.
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Too early
Two new players may be picked up to bolster the O-line or ???
not this season
what more do you want than 3 first round picks, a second round pick and a probowler?
How did they regress so much in one year?
And they weren’t even that good last year.
by asmithisaverage on Aug 29, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
new offense
The line looks like they’ve all be taught too much too fast. They’re lost. Still think it’s a practice and communication issue, not a skill issue.
hey,
Dallas just cut their perennial pro-bowl center Andre Gurode. FO, hop on THAT! Please!
by Doni S on Aug 29, 2011 2:56 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Might be a good fit
but let’s look at some of the finer details:
If Gurode was so good, why would the Cowboys get rid of him?
Here are a few good reasons: He was overrated, overpaid and overweight. Oh, and they’re confident in Phil Costa.
Don’t be fooled by Gurode’s five consecutive Pro Bowl berths. He was voted in the last two seasons based purely on reputation. His performance has been a concern for the Cowboys.
Gurode would have made $5.5 million this season. That’s far too much for a declining player, especially one who reported to camp weighing 334 pounds – 18 more than his listed weight last season – and recovering from June knee surgery.
by asmithisaverage on Aug 29, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
links
Do you have links to this content?
by David Fucillo on Aug 29, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AoRQKtJEWyz9.ky6a2TxV3ZDubYF?slug=ap-cowboys-garrett
well, he’s probably better than Snyder…for whatever that’s worth. sign him for depth if nothing else…
who is going to drink a six pack of beet if moran norris is cut?
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
So we got a 7th rounder for Mays.. WOW is right!!
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
News out of Cincy is that the Bengals only had to give up a No. 7 pick in 2013 for Taylor Mays, a second-round pick last year. Wow
http://twitter.com//ClaytonESPN/status/108308770534338560
"You have to reinvent yourself each year, ... What helped us was that there was some turnover each year." Bill Walsh...
Not at all upset with that price
Although it now looks like the team gave up the farm with the Shaun Hill trade. If Mays is worth a 7th rounder than Hill was at least worth a 5th.
Gonna be a long season..
Here are NFL.com’s predictions on the 49ers this year. Not looking too good…
Jason La Canfora
Rookie head coach + QB by default + a disgruntled RB = Not a good combination.
Prediction: 5-11, fourth in NFC West
Steve Wyche
Everything comes back to the quarterback, Alex Smith. If something finally clicks, this hard-working, likable player could get San Francisco to 10 wins. If he’s been what he’s been, he won’t finish the season as the starter.
Prediction: 6-10, third in NFC West
Pat Kirwan
They may very well wind up with the top spot and a chance to draft Andrew Luck. The offensive line needs to get better, Michael Crabtree needs to get healthy and Frank Gore needs to stop the contract complaints.
Prediction: 2-14, fourth in NFC West
Bucky Brooks
Jim Harbaugh will soon find out that his predecessors were right about Alex Smith’s inability to get it done as a franchise quarterback.
Prediction: 3-13, fourth in NFC West
Elliot Harrison
Everyone seems to trust Jim Harbaugh until he starts talking about Alex Smith. Meanwhile, the 49ers lost many a player in free agency and have a learning curve under a new coach, making 2011 a difficult year to win a weak division.
Prediction: 7-9, third in NFC West
Well Football Outsiders are in the 49ers corner this season
Although I’ve been waiting to ask Danny a few questions about it.
Danny
I sent him some questions and hopefully we’ll get answers posted this week or early next week.
by David Fucillo on Aug 29, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm curious about their late season numbers on Smith
They cited he played average after Week 5. However he was in and out of the lineup after Week 5 with a few of his starts against the lowly Seahawks and Cardinals defense.
I wanted to ask if his numbers looked any better than his recent outings against those teams and hasn’t his numbers always looked best after quickly returning to the lineup. Seemed like the crutch of their argument is he is now average but was wondering if the numbers show he is only average when in and out of the lineup?
wow
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Aug 29, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not expecting big things
But given some pundits were picking the Niners to win the division last year, maybe this is actually a good sign.
Now, is the winter of our discontent
Made glorious summer by this son of York
--Richard III, Act I, Scene 1
Oman: Sam Lam has him going to the practice squad
Per this article. Does Oman still have PS eligibility? He was drafted in 2008; seems unlikely he is still eligible unless he was injured for at least one full year.
by OffensiveInterference on Aug 29, 2011 5:48 PM PDT reply actions
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