Jeremiah Masoli: Your QB-3 At This Point?
by David Fucillo on Aug 7, 2011 2:00 PM PDT
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PrintEarlier this week I put together a post about Jeremiah Masoli and how he could conceivably make the roster in a bit of a utility role. He played quarterback at Oregon and Ole Miss, but conceivably due to his athletic abilities he was listed as a running back when the 49ers signed him. Additionally, there was some discussion of getting him some work as a return man. For an undrafted free agent, providing position versatility is often the best way to earn a roster spot.
Now it sounds like he might be earning a roster spot the old fashioned way. According to Coach Harbaugh, Masoli is getting all his reps as a quarterback. Originally it seemed like he was getting reps at quarterback because of the limited number of arms in camp. However, in getting those reps, he has apparently shown Harbaugh something at the quarterback position.
Harbaugh:
"He's getting all his reps as a quarterback now. He's done a really nice job and I'm excited to watch him in the games, in the preseason games, and he's fighting like a lot of guys to make the ball club ...
"Like I said a couple of weeks ago, he throws the ball like a professional quarterback and he's played his way into that thinking by us."
Well then. Masoli apparently had a 63-yard touchdown pass to Tyler Beiler, so maybe that inspired the question about Masoli in the press conference.
Heading into free agency I figured the 49ers would add some kind of veteran QB to the roster. If the team decides to go with Masoli or even McLeod Bethel-Thompson, it would appear to show two things. The first is that either of them has done enough to impress the former quarterback. The second, and arguably the more important, is that Harbaugh is also more than comfortable with Alex Smith and/or Colin Kaepernick leading this offense in 2011.
One point that could be made is that Kaepernick is Harbaugh's long term hope, so he's not quite as concerned about this year. However, given the short shelf life for many coaches, I don't buy into that. Harbaugh would simply appear to be ready to go against the grain and roll with the interesting mix of quarterbacks currently on the roster. I don't think many people expected anything remotely resembling this at the end of last season.
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Your last sentence is so true, and so telling
I don’t think many people expected anything remotely resembling this at the end of last season.
NOBODY, back at the end of the 2010 season, would have predicted we go into 2011 with Alex Smith, a high draft pick, an a UDFA. Nobody.
Nobody thought Alex, for a start, let alone Alex plus two guys who never played in the NFL, one of whom was oiverlooked by every NFL team about seven times.
well not no one
I often spoke with other fans about the likelihood of Alex being the-guy again thanks to the lockout and even those who hated the idea acknowledged it’s possibility even if it wasn’t Harbaugh to be hired.
by whistlingmountain on Aug 7, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
not directly
but I know Maiocco ran pretty hard with the implication at one point.
by whistlingmountain on Aug 7, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I think what it happened was
Maiocco asked Alex in the locker room after the final game last season
“Are you coming back?”
And Smith was like “Are you serious??”
Interesting..
With the new 3rd QB rules (about how you don’t need to dress one) it could be interesting to have a versatile guy on the team / sidelines for game days.
I like Masoli's potential
but, I think he would be better suited as a practice squad player at this point. Other than trick plays (wildcat) etc… I am not sure what he would be able to bring to the table if called upon. Remember, he had an issue picking up Mississippi’s offense last season after transfer from Oregon. I don’t expect him to be able to pick up the offense and read defensive schemes yet.
The pre-season will be extremely interesting in order to see where he stands. If it is obvious he isn’t ready, the 49ers do still have some options to bring in a #3 QB behind Smith and CK.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 7, 2011 2:26 PM PDT reply actions
Didnt Ole Miss run the same spread offense
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by EcERyda69 on Aug 7, 2011 2:31 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Being an Arkansas fan...
We played Masoli last year. He had one of his best games against our defense, which is not very good. Other than that, he was very underwhelming last year in college, thought Nutt has never been very good with QBs (other than Matt Jones, Clint Stoener was someone else’s QB he inherited). It honestly surprised me when we signed him. I was just expecting him to be a camp body.
But now reading he has a good chance to be a #3 QB, that leaves me a bit shocked. I never would’ve though he would catch on at QB. Hopefully he pans out.
I’m pretty sure Ole Miss ran a spread last year btw, but I’m not entirely sure.
Jeavon Snead
Whatever happened to this guy. I remember he was a beast his sophomore year at ole miss. Had a rough junior year and went undrafted. i wouldnt mind signing him to the practice squad……. if he is still playing football
He could have tricked a team
But decided to come out after having a horrible year. #lessonlearned
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by Bob In Beaverton on Aug 7, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Beetle does it for his eyesight
if I’m not mistaken. This isn’t your typical trolling cap angry yell.
i still say
Look at some of those undrafted QBs out there and bring one in and slowly develop him. Lots still out there. Blake Bolles, RJ Toman, Josh Bodreaux, Sebastian Trujillo. All mobile QBs with tools that Harbaugh can survey develop if he’s as good as they say he is.
by gifts_and_curses on Aug 7, 2011 2:45 PM PDT reply actions
It's almost getting to the point of being too late to bring anyone else in.
I such a complex offense, any new candidates brought in would be bhind the 8-ball.
I don’t feel so bad rolling with Masoli as the number three. He showed a bit of promise at Oregon… not so much at Ole Miss…. but it was an uphill climb there opposed to Oregon.
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Johnson
After the final preseason game. Always time to bring a guy in that knows the system.
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Johnson doesn't know the current system.
It’s far-fetched anyway. Really wish people would get off the Josh Johnson thing. Not going to happen.
They are investing time and effort in to Smith and Kaep. It makes no logical sense to bring in a Johnson type who is a 2nd string QB for another team that we would have to trade for. That would be like kicking a bee hive… just not a very smart thing to do.
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Also
It would waste possible trade value in Taylor Mays (if he were part of the trade) or cost us a mid-round pick, for a rental player that isn’t even going to see the field. Makes absolutely no sense.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 7, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep.
Mays needs to be moved to OLB though…. at least on certain plays. No LT or RT will be able to match his speed and athleticism.
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Isn't that
a transition that needs to take place over the course of an entire off-season? I can’t see SF moving him there right now.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 7, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course... he still would have to train in the offseason too and gain 10-15 lbs.
And who knows? Maybe it still would not work out but I think the Niners need to at least think about it.
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I hear that Minnesota is interested in Mays
It could be just the linkage to Singletary, but that could be a real possibility. But, for some reason there seems to be a lot of interest in his services around the league. I am thinking the 49ers could actually steal a 3rd or 4th for him.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 7, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I would like to see how he plays this week.. If he plays good then either they may decide to keep him or his value could go up.
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Um...steal a 3rd or 4th?
We got him for a 2nd… that is hardly a steal.
We’d almost certainly have to trade him for a veteran at a position of need if there was to be any sort of “stealing”.
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I would like a player too
Lee Evans is said to be available and Buffalo wants a 4th for him. I think that Mays for Evans would work. They still need to replace Whitner.
I say a steal because of the public nature of San Francisco’s trade attempts. It could have really handicapped their ability to get real value for Mays
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 7, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
We don't need anymore WR's.
We’re set there.
What we need is maybe another corner, outside linebacker, or defensive lineman.
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I think our offense already has a lot of talent
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Mays' value
I don’t think we will get what we used on him or better. At least at this point in his career.
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I was into the whole Johnson thing but
It doesn’t make sense to bring in a young quarterback, who would have no future with the team. Acquiring Johnson would require giving up a draft pick and/or Taylor Mays. It isn’t worth it considering he will be a FA following the 2011 season and will have an opportunity to start somewhere else like Miami, Buffalo, Washington etc…
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 7, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
The big issue is that he will be the # 3 if Harbaugh likes what he has seen in TC and the preseason.
I guess it really doesn’t matter how we feel, he is the expert and likes what he has seen so far.
I would be interested in finding out how McLeod Bethel-Thompson has done. It is very possible that one makes the 53 man roster and one goes to the practice squad. What that does is gives both of them a jump into next year when very possibly Alex Smith won’t be here.
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I don't think McBLT is going to make the team just on appearance alone.
Guy looks like part of the womens Swedish Soccer team.
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He.. they are a tough group.. don't mess with them :-)
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lol @ maybe........
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 8, 2011 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Holy crap that is him in the bottom picture?
You’re right, on appearance alone, cut him!
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I am so looking forward to the 1st preseason game.. first to see who starts and how everyone plays.
Some that start this week will not start in the 2nd so that Harbaugh can see the most promising and a few of the younger guys in a starting role.
I also wonder if all 4 QBs will play in the first game… with only a couple weeks of TC and nothing before.. I imagine almost everyone will get a chance to play in this game
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Hey Drew - How are you writers going to handle this first preseason game?
I was thinking each of you takes on a different group like RBs and WRs… QBs and OL, CBs and Safeties… I think it would give us all a better idea of how the players in each group looked.
Just a thought!
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I was thinking about that after I posted this.. You probably want to do one offense and one defense position
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I will take the
quarterback position, but I am sure fooch wants that LOL.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 7, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I will take the McBLT and the Swedish Womens Soccer team......
Love the headband.
by ericalancanty on Aug 7, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
sounds like a good idea
I hope Fooch takes this into consideration
pumped for the first game. seemed like it would never come this year with the lockout
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
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I was aiming for the cancel button
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
That's good.. I was wondering who would reach out to take that job!
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Harbaugh, Smith, and CK
IMO, Harbaugh completely and honestly believes that Alex Smith is going to lead and win with the Niners this season. And Alex has improved every year, maybe only the one year with Turner, he has been with a good OC. And this is the first year he has been with an offensively minded HC who supports and understands his QB. This may be Smith’s last chance, but in many ways it is also his first chance, to be a quality NFL QB. Meanwhile, Harbaugh is developing CK. I for one wouldn’t be surprised to CK back up Alex for several more years. If this happens, it means that Alex and the Niners have been very successful.
4 or 5 Superbowl wins..... I think I would like to keep Alex Smith if he can produce that.. or even one of those
Depending on how good he is this year.. he could end up staying for a long time.. and then CK could end up providing a 1st rounder later on…
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Good point
Best case scenario we have a Brees/Rivers or a Vick/Kolb thing going on, worse case scenario Alex sucks this year and Keap gets a year in Harbaughs hip pocket
Honestly I think the worst case
is if Smith is average/above-average. A statline like 18 TDs 12 INTs like a 2 years ago, with over 3000 yards and a mid 80s QB rating. What do we do then? He probably wouldn’t have hurt us too much, but wouldn’t have proved he improved a whole lot.
It’d be tough to figure out if he was worth resigning or not.
Emergency QB idea!
If they keep McBLT, Harbaugh can just knock him out and suit up in his place, sneak into the game with his jersey and win some games for us.
Bethel-Thompson really got nailed on that play, Troy
Yeah that was not good. He seems a little too shaken up on that hit. Coach Jim Harbaugh will have to make a serious decision on who to play now. Only no one has seen him for quite some time.
Bottom Line:
Masoli is a better 3rd stringer than David Carr. (may be better than Colin Kap too). Lets hope he is a better NFL player than he is a thief, the very reason he got the boot from Oregon
Better than Kaep? lol
Guy was practically a RB in college…
I mean Kaep can run too, but he will have one of the most accurate and strong arms in the league. Masoli doesn’t even come close to comparing. I cannot see him even suiting up all 16.
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Kap is a scrub
who played in the pistol offense and has a throwing motion like my 9-year-old niece until he proves otherwise. It was a more a rub on Kap than an endorsement of Masoli.
wow
Can you niece rifle a pass 35 yards with her right hand while running to her left and hit Vernon Davis in stride. I doubt it.
by David Fucillo on Aug 8, 2011 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
When? In practice?
my niece probably could too then. He hasn’t even played a game yet and niner nation wants man-love on him. It’s bordering on abject homerism.
Nobody thought Kap was worthy of a 2nd round pick
let alone worthy of “future franchise QB” in niner land until they curiously took him in the 2nd round.
If that’s what you want to think, then ok.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Aug 8, 2011 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Find me links pushing for kap as the future of anything
other than sideline clipboard holder and I’ll think different
Kaepernick certainly needs to continue polishing his game at the next level, which is why he should be viewed as a developmental prospect with a huge upside.
Kaepernick needs a lot of work on his throwing mechanics yet comes with a great amount of upside.
I see Kaepernick as more of a project than the quarterbacks ranked above him. But his ceiling could also be nearly as high as any QB in this draft – if you give him the necessary time to develop.
Kaepernick has much more upside than any quarterback listed aside from the Top 3 – he’s a marvelous athlete with a very strong arm, and has a lot of experience.
I’m sure there’s more, but the consensus pre-draft seemed to be that Kaepernick is a project QB with “tremendous upside.”
Not exactly glowing reviews, but I don’t see any comments anywhere from people saying he projects to be a clipboard holder at best. At least, not for his career.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
welcome, Jeremiah
If named 3rd string QB, you will immediately be the most popular person in San Francisco.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Quite frankly...
I did expect to see Alex Smith back simply because of the QBs available in FA he was the better choice. 9ers did not want to waste a draft pick for a 30+ year old veteeran QB who may not be as good as Smith either, so here we are.
Lets give the guy the benefit of the doubt and see what happens when he has a real Oline and a real Off Coordinator in a REAL WCO. May not be as bad as ya’ll think.
I recently went through some video of Smith from his Utah says and gotta say… he was pretty freakin good!!! But since he has been a 49er he has been stuck in some of the most GodAwful Vanilla crap-hole offenses this side of the Veer.
I think about how Smith would have looked in Mooch’s version of the 9er WCO, that made Garcia look like a real NFL QB. Or go way back to the Shanahan version of the 9ers WCO, where Young broke every passing record there was in the 94 SB season!!!
Give Smith a chance with a real offense and some decent receivers using a real live WCO and lets see what kinda hell the 9ers can raise outta this mess?!!!!
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Rb
I’m surprised he hasn’t gotten in anymore practice at rb. He has the size and agility you look for. Plus you would think he would come in ahead of other rookies understanding blocking assignments.
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