Reggie Smith Update: Reportedly Torn Meniscus Requiring Surgery
We've got an update on the Reggie Smith injury front as Matt Barrows has learned through a source that Reggie Smith suffered a torn meniscus in one of his knees. While any injury requiring surgery reaches some level of "serious" a meniscus tear is less serious than a lot of the alternatives.
I did a quick search and saw one quick story from a couple years back when Sedrick Ellis tore his medial meniscus and was expected to miss two to four weeks. He missed three games in October with the injury before bouncing back the rest of the way. As a defensive lineman Ellis plays a much different position than Reggie Smith's safety position. I don't know how that impacts recovery time but it might factor in a little bit.
We still don't have a complete confirmation on the knee injury, but this is the most specific update we've seen thus far. If this ends up being how the injury plays out, things could have ended up a lot worse. Injuries are never a good thing, but missing a few weeks which will likely cover primarily preseason is not quite like missing a few weeks during the season or missing the whole season. We'll keep an eye out for further developments.
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Conspiracy Theory
Goldson was signed shortly after Adrian Wilson’s injury . . . . Reggie Smith’s injury may just be a cover to keep Goldson out of Arizona.
Does it matter
If what he does on the field on our side is good and not good for the Cardinals?
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Aug 8, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
not many servicable safeties left on the market
so taking away goldson leaves them with even less choices, and despite the large turnover in players, he knows a lot of our players and a lot of their weaknesses
Agreed
This is a good situation to happen that we have him for a year. But if it’s conspiracy theory, an act of god, the football gods, happenstance or mother nature, I don’t care. We still do not have a “great” DB corps but we are looking much better back there than we did with Carlos, Culliver, Adams, and Spencer (shaky on that one), Reggie (He’ll be back), Goldson, Whitner, Spillman, and Jones.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Aug 8, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
better corps with him back there
if it is a conspiracy, good job on the FO’s part to keep knowledgable players out of our division rivals hands (unlike last year where we practically handed both play books to seattle).
This is good news
means he’s just going to miss pre-season and might actually be able to play in one of the pre-season games if he heals fast.
good thing we got 300 safeties on the roster
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
Guessing (possibly wrong) at the 3
Goldson, Whitner and Reggie, I like Holcomb and Jones and even Spillman and Maragos (mostly as special teamers)
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Aug 8, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Figures....
the guys is having a really good camp from what i’ve read, and this happens
i remember that
i remember one preseason game, he had this amazing interception, then he was pretty much banged up all year lol
by sanfranfanmdk on Aug 8, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Phew.... BIG sigh of relief
Take 3-4 weeks and he is only out week one. I would rather him “rest” it a little more and come back, then to rush it all… Everything is short enough as is… Rushing it could only make it all worse. At least he is so young.. should heal fast at least…
maybe they should wear knee braces too??
j/k
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
I'd rathe have him as a starter
than Dashon.
Maybe
But given the year that Goldson had season before last, you shouldn’t give up on Goldson. He could still turn out to be a pretty good safety.
Harbaughcalypse Now
He wasn't that good....
He had one good game against AZ that padded his stats. It’s like a QB throwing three TDs when we’re down by 50 points.
It's going to hurt his chances of starting which kind of bums me out.
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by monterrey niner on Aug 8, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Unless you're on your phone
Drinking margarita’s at El Torito…
by Chefantone on Aug 8, 2011 3:35 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
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There’s clearly enough room on the menu that Flag and Rec don’t need to be under the vague “actions” button.
If you didn’t know rec existed, it’s impossible to find out unless somebody tells you.
by brundylop on Aug 8, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I tore my meniscus
It hurt like no other at first, but after writhing on the ground for awhile I was able to get up and still drive home. After that though I was bedridden for a couple weeks but eventually I was perfectly fine. Of course I don’t play professional football but let’s just be thankful that it wasn’t his ACL or MCL.
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Torn both of mine
1st one I couldn’t really walk very well for a couple days. Running was not an option.
Post surgery it was a week to heal then start working back. Not being a professional athlete it was some time between the injury and the surgery (months the 1st time, happened when an MRI took a few months to get non emergency).
2nd was a longer issue, initial surgery wasn’t successful, the tear was internal only, hadn’t breached the surface. Ended up needing a 2nd scope 18 months or so latter when the damage had progressed further to be see and corrected.
Overall still got some pain, lost a very small amount of range of motion (in the knee that’s been scoped twice). Bigger issue by far is trying to get back general conditioning from the downtime between injury and post surgery.
I expect him out maybe a month before he’s back to practicing. After that he’ll likely have to deal with some swelling and pain, but nothing really bad (quite manageable). This is all of course just based on what I’ve had, no clue how bad his tear really is etc.
Knee’s don’t heal great in general, lack of blood flow to the area is a hinderence. I expect he’ll have occasional issues with it from now on. I got a spot on each knee that when hit hurts something nasty and causes the knee to not work right for a little bit. In football sense, get hit by bad chance in the spot and may need to take a play off.
Problem with torn meniscus is Lack Of Blood flow like Dave R. pointed out......
The meniscus is kind of like “a shock abosorber to your car”. It’s helps asbsorbs bone to bone contact in your knee. Not only do they have to operate to get the “loose foreign particals” out of the knee. But after the operation, your body needs certain “nutrients” for a lack of a better term, to your menisus to heal properly. Thing is since their is lack of blood flow to that area to begin with, “nutrients” made by your body, are then moved to the knee area though your body’s own synovial fluid. The synovial fluid is moved by ROM (Range Of Motion) excercises. Thats why whomever has gotten this operation before has gone to a Physical Threrapist (PT) and had a machine hooked up to them, assisting to getting back their knee’s full ROM. On some occassions with the general population they do not get the entire ROM back but do get close to it. This coupled with the fact that you & the PT now have to get your knee to work in getting it’s strength & balance prior to the injury.
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 8, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Depth, depth, depth
once Smith returns doesn’t Goldson become one of the best #3 safeties in the entire NFL? Moving Williams down on the depth chart also helps San Francisco to be able to rotate fresh legs in there.
This is a problem that the 49ers are glad to have. Hopefully, Smith returns soon
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 8, 2011 2:46 PM PDT reply actions
yeah, we're good
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Aug 8, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Goldson's ego aside
He does make for an extremely solid #3 safety at this point, maybe one of the best. The 49ers have more depth at certain positions since their last playoff appearance.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 8, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
but we're still missing our #2 safety
whitner is a #1, but Williams, Goldson and Smith all seem like #3s to me.
come on guys...
stop bagging on Goldson. He signed. Like it or not, at this point he is on our side. Goldson has a few years of on-team experience. That should help.
I think Goldson has an inflated value of self, but he is still has value (though not as much as he or his agent places on him). He has a lot to prove this year now. If he wants that $5-7MM per year contract, he better do something big… If not, then he knows his value… But let’s stop bagging on a guy that re-signed…
I've nothing against Goldson
I just think, Reggie’s better.
by monterrey niner on Aug 8, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
And Reggie will start
Goldson will be the #3 safety, which is going to be huge
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 8, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Reggie HAD the lead in that category
but an injury like this could easily drop him to #3, expecially if Dashon stays healthy and plays well this preseason
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Aug 8, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
If Dashon
returns to 2009 form he will be the starter. I just wonder if that was a mirage because he has been extremely inconsistent every other season in the NFL
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 8, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, i feel ya
but i think he’s hungry…he’s had the most criticism he’s ever had this offseason.
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Aug 8, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Chip on his shoulder
with that comes passion, anger etc… You combine that with real good raw talent and anything is possible. If Goldson does return to 2009 form and Whitner plays like he did last year. That is a solid duo
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 8, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
and either way, I'm seriously lovin our depth there
i no longer fear the injury bug..except when it comes to our core players.
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Aug 8, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I know
the guy did earn and keep a starting spot amongst all these other guys here. Just cuz Reggie’s been having a good camp, now he’s automatically better then Goldson…the same guy he couldn’t beat out last year.
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Aug 8, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Reggie hasnt shown it
Dashon was the best safety on the team last year regardless of how you all feel now. The year before you would have loved to resign him long term, he’s only 26/27 so he just approaching his prime and can get better. Ed Reed has played with Ray Lewis since he came in the league, whether Dashon is a product of his own greatness or the system that includes P Willis & J. Smith, he is very talented with size and speed. I like Reggie Smith alot too, but he is no Hawk, he showed that last year in the 2nd half of the season. he played alright, but still gave up big plays and fell for play actions. Our whole secondary needs to improve, if Nate where still here to bag on Dashon wouldnt be an issue.
Whitner and Smith
will be the starters. Until Smith returns it will be between Williams and Goldson
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 8, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think Reggie has locked down that spot by any means
and Reggie isn’t that much better then Goldson to make it a wash.
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Aug 8, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
6 weeks minimum healing time...
where do they get this “out only two weeks” thing?
Reggie injury to heal 100% will take 6 weeks.
Glad Goldson back… but that dude has a LOT to prove this season.
yeah, thats what I thought
torn meniscus, surgery? I can’t see hime recovering that fast. and yes, Dashon does need to take that step from being a borderline talented player.
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Aug 8, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
meniscus
I posted a link on another player with a meniscus tear a couple years ago who missed three games, no bye. Might not end up with the same result, but that’s where the 2-4 weeks is factored in.
by David Fucillo on Aug 8, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Out 2,4 heck even 6weeks at this point of the pre-season.....
is the best possible scenerio out of this dilemma with Smith
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 8, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Williams contract situation?
I seriously doubt hed get cut, but hes here for 1 yr ~5MM right? How much of that is guaranteed?
From what I saw of him on practice Friday, he looked sharp for his 2nd day of practice with a new team, especially in run support. Unbelievably skinny legs and ankles though…
skinny legs and ankles?
not good lol…reminds me of a guy i used to play wit
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Aug 8, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Madieu Williams is 1yr for veteran minimum salary NOT 5.4 mil.
that’s what he was suppose to make with the vikings before he got cut!!!
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 8, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
good call, thanks
Ive got a case of the Mondays…
lol no probs when i saw that 5.4# i was like OMG where not the stinking RADIERZZ!!
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Aug 8, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I think we should keep 6 safeties, and they should be Smith, Goldson, Whitner, Williams, Spillman, and either Mays or Jones (lookin like Jones)
I would've at least thought Mays woulda beat out the Jones kid
damn, how bad is Taylor Mays playin out there?
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Aug 8, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope Goldson is humbled by the lack of interest out there and just shuts up and plays the game.
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I don't understand
where all the criticism form being a baby came from…it was never a problem during the season. he wasn’t in the mainstream media complaining or anything? I mean if its cuz he thought he was worth more the he was being paid, I don’t see that as a big issue. They’re supposed to try and get the best deals…thats what agents are for.
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Aug 8, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
thats what agents are for.
Exactly… so getting in to twitter beefs with your potential fanbase is not exactly the smartest thing to do if you want to get PAID.
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fanbase?
I don’t know about that considering the fans don’t make the decisions.
by David Fucillo on Aug 8, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
So you don't think that teams interest check on things like twitter or facebook?
I’d beg to differ.
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what would they see
did you read em…it was obnoxious fans being a$$holes and assuming this and that, and him mostly saying they have no idea what they are talking about. Show me a tweet where he was out of line.
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I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Aug 8, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Responding in the first place was out of line.
Should’ve taken the high road and ignored the comments.
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checking
I’m sure they keep an eye on it, but considering some of the things people feel “man enough” to say on Twitter, I actually am glad he responded. Even when people use their actual name on twitter it’s still a matter of hiding beyond the Internet to talk tough. I personally think it’s better to ignore the idiots rather than sling crap back at them (thus the policy here), but given the nature of the medium, so be it.
by David Fucillo on Aug 8, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Most athletes just ignore stuff like that.
I think it was a bad idea to go the route he did. I think it could have changed a lot of people’s perception… which it doesn’t seem as though he is too concerned about it anyhow.
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perceptions
The people that are hurling insults and acting childish in their own right are not the people he should be concerned with anyway.
by David Fucillo on Aug 8, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
He was involved in the same banter.
Anyway, I couldn’t care less about that so much as I am about his play.
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come to think of it
he never actually said he wanted more money did he…i didn’t start hearing that until folks on here started saying he PROBABLY wants more money…in fact, on twitter, he said he never made any contractual demands or turned down any offers.
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Aug 8, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
He doesn't have to say he wanted more money... by him taking his time to sign back with the Niners
insinuates it. No need to say it.
Anyway, that is not the most important thing in the equation. His play is… and he did not show at any point in his career that he deserves more money. He has to work for that.
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whats wrong w/ testing the market and seeing if you can get more money
thats actually smart in my book.
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Aug 8, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Not saying it's not.
You were the one who said nobody claimed that he was looking for more money. Or “said it”. I just merely pointed out… he did not have to say it.
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if you were him, what would you do?
not try and get the best deal possible??
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Aug 8, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
and?
just because he never came out and said i want more bread doesn’t mean he doesn’t go the smart route and see what options he has. you still didn’t answer the question. As far as responding to idiots…i see you responding to everybody that has a bad opinion of you. Does that mean you should’ve taken the “high road” and ignored them?
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Aug 8, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah.
But this conversation is not about me… no need to create the strawman.
You got called out on your comment above about him not “saying” he wanted more money… then go on to defend him in wanting more money. It’s a contradiction that is plain to see.
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every player wants more money...saying it out loud is something different
ever heard of capitalism? everybody wants more money. As far as making a comparison…whats wrong w/ that? Oh, they must be different then you and me, these players are still human…how can you throw rocks at somebody else when you do the same thing? I don’t know about any strawman, i do know another term for someone that critisizes someone for doing the same thing they themselves do.
Here’s another comparison: your coworker critisizes you cuz you want a promotiion..although you never actually said you wanted one but its pretty obvious you do.
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Aug 8, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't get it.
I guess I will chalk this conversation up to ‘lost cause’
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agreed
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Aug 8, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he made a pretty loud and obvious statement this offseason
when he fired his agent and went out and got Drew Rosenhaus…
Louder than words there.
He thought he was going to get Antrel Rolle money. Everyone knew that and yet still, nobody wanted to pay him that. Wonder why?
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perhaps...
but look @ the deal he got. 1 year for peanuts. I think that he thinks Drew will do his Jerry Maguire impression next season
what else do players sit out for
I am sure 49ers have talked to Goldson or his agent. He apparently didn’t like it. I think 49ers just tired of waiting. Like Harbaugh said, the train is leaving.
focus?
Because of his tweets or something else entirely?
by David Fucillo on Aug 8, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
His focus playing the game...
getting burnt over the top, etc… twitter beefs excluded.
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Of coarse he wanted more money , he played out his old contract , what he going to do ask for the same , so you both went off on a tangent that was a given ...!!
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Thought you meant he out-played his contract or something like that.
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taylor mays
Am I the only one that wants taylor Mays to make the squad? Even its just on ST he’s fast and he hits like a MAC truck.. and not to mentioned he’s only in sophmore yr.. maybe reggie smiths injury gives him a little more breathing room
by ninernation650 on Aug 8, 2011 4:25 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
want him to make it - yes
expect him to be on it – no
no way we cut him if no trade...
Hold him for a year, put him on ST, and as a backup DB and see if he develops or we need him due to injury to others… then trade him prior to next season’s draft. He is in his second year of what.. a 4 or 5 yr contract? No way he has been evaluated enough to warrant pure cutting…
by D.P on Aug 8, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
God I hope not
He might be alright in a cover 2 scheme but you don’t ever want him to play man.
Teams should have learned by now, never take an Indy CB or LB. You’ll be greatly disappointed.
interesting on the Cardinals..
Ouch.. not going to be able to wrap people up real well….
Ouch.. not going to be able to wrap people up real well….http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Adrian-Wilson-has-tear-in-bicep-muscle.html
Ouch.. not going to be able to wrap people up real well….http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Adrian-Wilson-has-tear-in-bicep-muscle.htmlStraight up trade: Mays for Fitzgerald? :-)
Timmy… get on the phone!!!
Straight up Mays or Fitzgerald
I know they’re called the Cardinals but they’re not that much of a bird brain. :-)
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Aug 8, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah butt.....how about Cornerback depth?
Tons of safeties….but still weak at C.B. especially if an injury occurs.
Take your guess today… who will be our starting secondary?
My guess (Starters in bold)
S (6): Reggie Smith, Donte Whitner, M. Williams, Goldson, Spillman, Mays
CB (5): Carlos Rogers, Shawntae Spencer, Culliver, Adams, Brown
Practice Squad: Termaine Brock, Colin Jones
Just missed the cut: Chris Maragos
Goldson could play Cornerback as well if need be. So could Smith. If goldson starts and plays well , the niners could infact leave him at safety move Goldson to CB or vice versa. I agree with what Rep the Bay stated above as far as who should be kept once the roster is cut down to the final 53.
by bmcrae83@yahoo.com on Aug 8, 2011 5:35 PM PDT reply actions
Uhmmmm.... I don't think so
Reggie Smith was already tried at C.B. upon him being drafted by the 9ers, the results not good.
Goldson as a NFL C.B. I simply don’t see it.
i speak from experience
i had surgery on my knee 3 months ago to repair my meniscus and rebuild my acl, and torn meniscus are not fast recovering, depending on the extent of damage, this is not great news :(

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