49ers Defeat Chargers, End Preseason On High Note
by David Fucillo on Sep 1, 2011 10:14 PM PDT
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The San Francisco 49ers wrapped up their 2011 preseason campaign on a high note in defeating the San Diego Chargers 20-17. The team had areas where they struggled, but they accomplished what I would view as their most important task: get a somewhat consistent performance from the first team offense.
Well, they got that. The first quarter saw that as Alex Smith put together an efficient 8/10, 45 yard performance. He didn't make any particularly deep throws, but in the context of the offense he didn't try to force anything. I think he'd like to have back the fade pattern to Braylon Edwards, but otherwise he did what he needed to do. The defender had some solid coverage on Edwards, but Edwards could have easily used his size to get the touchdown grab. Such is life. We can't win 'em all.
The big winner coming out of the first quarter was Kendall Hunter. He had a beastly first drive with 46 yards on six carries. He showed fantastic vision and great speed as he was picking up nice chunks of yards. Although Anthony Dixon only had four yards on his first four carries (two touchdowns aside), he turned it on after that with 41 yards on nine carries. Not spectacular but a very solid effort after a slow start.
These strong performances were achieved in part thanks to a strong performance by the offensive line for much of the first quarter. They opened up holes for the running backs and they gave Alex Smith time to maneuver around and find an open receiver. Arguably just as important was that Alex Smith seemed to have a better pocket presence tonight. He moved around in the pocket with some ease, and even had a nice seven yard run at one point.
Although the second and third string secondary got roughed up at times by QB Scott Tolzien, the pass rush was pretty spectacular at times. NaVorro Bowman had his sack, fumble, and recovery, which I think we can call a sort of defensive triple play. Aldon Smith had a beastly game with 2.5 sacks and 6 tackles. And UDFA stalwart Demarcus Dobbs made his presence felt throughout the second and third quarter. He appeared to get a hand out on the Jordan Todman fumble and he was around the play when sacks were happening.
While Dobbs is no Justin Smith, I actually would compare his performance today to Smith in the sense that while he didn't fill up the stat sheet (no tackles), he was always making his presence felt. I'm not saying he's the next coming of Smith, but he looked like the real deal tonight. If he hasn't clinched a roster spot yet, I don't know what else he can do.
The backups in the secondary had some struggles at times, and it was interesting to see Madieu Williams get the start at free safety over Dashon Goldson. I don't think Goldson even got on the field during the game. Maybe it's a matter of keeping him healthy?
I realize I haven't mentioned Colin Kaepernick thus far, but I also think that for the 2011 season, his struggles are not quite as alarming as they would appear in a vacuum. He struggled and if Josh McCown is not the primary backup to Alex Smith to at least start the season, I'd be a little shocked. McCown and McLeod Bethel-Thompson got some reps and McCown seemed to shake off the rust pretty quickly. Meanwhile McBLT got a few reps and even aired out a pass. I think the 49ers try and stash him on the practice squad, but we'll see how that pans out after cuts and waivers.
The next step for the 49ers will be cutting the roster down to 53 players between now and Saturday afternoon. There were some question marks heading in to tonight's game and while some were answered, there remain some tough calls. We'll have a 53-man projection tomorrow morning as we prepare for those final cuts.
Then it's on to week one against the Seattle Seahawks. We'll have plenty to discuss in advance of the opener. For now, let's start with the last time they met on the football field:
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Either they are keeping him under wraps, or he has some kind of injury. I hope it’s the former: he should be a big part of this offense.
by suffrin9erfan on Sep 1, 2011 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think he has an injury.
Harbaughcalypse Now
Now that preseason is over....
Time to roll out my first and only roster projection.
3 QB: Smith, Kaep, McCown
3 RB: Gore, Hunter, Dixon
1 FB: Norris,
3 TE: Davis, Walker, Rueland
6 WR: Edwards, Crabtree, Morgan, Ginn, Williams, Long
3 T: Staley, Davis, Boone
4 G: Iupati, Rachal, Person, Kilgore
2 C: Goodwin, Snyder
4 DE: Smith, McDonald, Dobbs, RJF
2 NT: Sopoaga, Williams
4 OLB: Brooks, Haralson, Smith, Applewhite
5 ILB: Willis, Bowman, Grant, Joseph, Costanzo
5 CB: Rogers, Spencer, Culliver, Brown, Brock
5 S: Whitner, Goldson, Williams, Smith, Spillman
3 ST: Lee, Akers, Jennings
I think that’s 53
Call me cautiously optimistic....because I know what the Niners do to people who have real optimism (see the last 8 years).
No way Long makes it, no way Miller doesn't
I hope 2011 is Harbaugh-some!
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ah
meant to swap those two
Call me cautiously optimistic....because I know what the Niners do to people who have real optimism (see the last 8 years).
Bruce Miller?
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by Young_To_Rice on Sep 1, 2011 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I will too
But this is what I think coaches will do…
Call me cautiously optimistic....because I know what the Niners do to people who have real optimism (see the last 8 years).
We will find out here soon.
They have two days to start waiving
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I'd be surprised
if they didn’t keep two fullbacks. I think Miller will make it because he’s shown that he’s a quick study and tenacious blocker. As always, Norris makes it because….
wait what about taylor mays
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by MichaelClutchtree on Sep 1, 2011 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Kidding?
I can’t tell. We traded Mays to the Bengals.
by ZivilynBane on Sep 2, 2011 1:49 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
tooo many ilb. norris is not the kind of full back harbaugh likes, moran may make the team but bruce miller will make the team.
philip adams makes it.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 2, 2011 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions
He's not eligible is he?
I thought if you played a certain amount of games in a year, you weren’t eligible.
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by Young_To_Rice on Sep 1, 2011 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
So is that under the maximum allowed before you're ineligible?
Or is it # of games on the active roster?
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by Young_To_Rice on Sep 1, 2011 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
but was he inactive for all 11 others?
I think it’s 8 games in an accrued season where you are suited up to play…
unfortunately, most likely...
I really like him though… If they keep 6 CBs, he’s on… Can still play special teams well…
PS will be
Some of the guys I think will end up on the practice squad are:
Lance Long – WR (if eligible)
Derek Hall – OL
Sealver Siliga – DL
Cory Nelms (CB)
Colin Jones (DB) – because he can also play WR on PS
Kenny Rowe (LB)
Too bad for Kristick
I think Joseph gets his spot. More speeeeed at MLB hahahaha
Call me cautiously optimistic....because I know what the Niners do to people who have real optimism (see the last 8 years).
lets do it
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Braylon Edwards
Thanx to the 49er faithfuls and now get ready for the real deal in 10 days.
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Ready for #6
Carson Palmer
Random, but I just saw this story linked on PFT: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6918581/quarterback-carson-palmer-visited-cincinnati-bengals-late-july-sources-say
Good for him. I’m all for forcing Mike Brown’s hand…as long as he doesn’t end up in Seattle.
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There building a sandtrap in Cincinnati right now.
I think they could be in the dumps for a lot of years.
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Yeah, they're awful.
I feel sorry for AJ Green and Andy Dalton, etc. It blows my mind that Marvin Lewis chose to return as HC. He’s a glutton for punishment.
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by Young_To_Rice on Sep 1, 2011 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it's going to be a long year for them.
Even if they draft Luck, I am not sure what’s in store. They inherited two one-dimensional players from us on defense…3 if you include Mays.
They are going to have to run the wheels off of Benson and Scott.
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Did you see Mays Highlight from game earlier?..LOL
Pass inteference called on him for being all over receiver..
"You have to reinvent yourself each year, ... What helped us was that there was some turnover each year." Bill Walsh...
He also broke up a pass in coverage that was pretty risky but paid off.
He was good in the run but he always has been there.
He had good position on the WR and coulda broke it up but did not get turned around. He still has a long way to go but I think Zimmer will stash him and work with him.
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young to rice
you are the libra connection , young oct11 and rice oct 13 birthdays
he could end up here
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 2, 2011 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't see it happening
unless next season, you mean? Alex’s contract will end and CK might not be ready.
Señores
The preseason it’s over, now the long wait until next sunday.
JH era has begun , very exited about the talent and potential on the offensive side of the ball, but extremly exited about the defence, a brigth spot in the D it’s the turnovers hope they can continue with that, I’m very confident they will be top ten this year , now it on Alex’s shoulders , and how the offence progress on the WC system, specialy the OL, if that can be improved to half of their potencial and put some points on the board every game we can have a very good shot and make the playoffs ….playoffs!!!! are you talking about playoffs? YES SIR I AM ….GOO NINERS!!!
PD: to Alex S.
you are surrounded by talent boy, I have said this before, get it done or get lost boy !!!….NO MORE IF’S Mr. ALEX, IT’S TIME TO SHOW SOME CONSISTENCY
"What's your deal" back-story:
http://sportsbybrooks.com/carroll-harbaugh-want-to-know-what-the-deal-is-26990
It’s a solid account of the back-story to that video posted above. Rivalries are the one thing I think makes college football interesting (well, besides the fact that college football players become NFL players eventually!).
I hope 2011 is Harbaugh-some!
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motivation
I love the mention of how Carroll would use it as motivation for the next 363 days…Should have added, “or until he bolts for the NFL to avoid the coming NCAA wrath.”
by David Fucillo on Sep 1, 2011 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I always wanted to know the back story.
Thanks for posting that.
Its been a little dream of mine since Harbaugh became HC to get a “Whats your deal?” chant going at Candlestick when the Seahawks visit.
by Chomp On This on Sep 2, 2011 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
signs
Need signs at Candlestick next week!
by David Fucillo on Sep 2, 2011 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Shiz
mattbarrows Matt Barrows
Goldson didn’t play because … Wait for it … he was “working through something,” Harbaugh said. Madieu Williams played into 4th Q at FS.
If nothing else he can scare the offense by making Predator noises.
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by Drew Kerr on Sep 1, 2011 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Alex Smith named starting QB
Jim Harbaugh made it “official.” I know we were all waiting with baited breath.
Did anyone actually think Kaep would? I suppose there were a few here and there.
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I know, but he's a UDFA, so it can sneak by right?
still an underdog…
just barely sneak in there...
like Speedy Gonzales going through a mouse hole, squeak by.
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Is the 'Player X is our future' unique to NN?
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by Young_To_Rice on Sep 1, 2011 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I think so...
based on user KORYSHEETSWASOURFUTURE
by David Fucillo on Sep 1, 2011 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Miaocco basically said that on 95.7 a little over an hour ago.
a guy makes 4 passes last quarter of preseason and suddenly he should be a starter lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 2, 2011 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions
At the start he had a chance
After the Saints game where Alex got 3/4 of reps the following week you knew Harbaugh was done playing competition.
I love his potential but he's not ready.
He adds another dimension and could be lethal someday.
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I’m not bothered by his INTs. 4 of them were deep throws where he is just learning his limits. Those checkdown QBs racking up INTs are the worry.
I blame that slant one on Rojo.
He needed to get better position. All he did was tip it up like a volleyball.
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good defense though...
He needed to shield the ball with his body… The tip was the defender… The guy is PS material…
I thought he would at least push Alex for the starting job.
by SanFranciscoKnights on Sep 1, 2011 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
He might've in a regular offseason, but Alex had a leg up w/ 6 seasons in the NFL already.
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by Young_To_Rice on Sep 1, 2011 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
AND McCown?
a 2 pronged QB attack… I like it…
Do you think they keep him on the PS?
Or too many QB’s? McCown will be the scout team QB, no?
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McBLT vs. McCown
I think they could try and stash him. I’d suspect McCown is gonna be the #2 heading into Seattle…just don’t see how they can justify Kaepernick as the backup at this point.
by David Fucillo on Sep 1, 2011 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
No
I don’t think they need a QB on the PS if they end up keeping the 3. The 3rd QB would run the PS.
technically we didn't make it out of pre-season
injury-free. Heitmann was this year’s casualty & I don’t know if his replacement/s is/are half as good as he was. But that aside, our o-line showed up again. Though the question remains: which o-line are we gonna see Week? I hope it’s this one…
by Doni S on Sep 2, 2011 9:06 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
did anyone really think it was a actually a competition?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 2, 2011 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions
PFT said it was something w/ his shoulder...
But that he was on the sideline w/ his helmet on in case he had to return so they were assuming it wasn’t serious. Moeaki (sp?) was hurt, too.
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by Young_To_Rice on Sep 1, 2011 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
a high school team woulda torched our secondary
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by MichaelClutchtree on Sep 1, 2011 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
We have to get Reggie Smith back.
Has anyone heard when he is supposed to return? Or has Harbaugh kept that all hush, hush too?
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Smith
I thought I heard he was running a bit this week. He didn’t make the trip down though.
by David Fucillo on Sep 1, 2011 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
So he will have 10 days to get back in there?
I hope he gets 100% before then and the coaching staff has enough faith.
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He didn't make the trip to SD...
Harbaugh doesn’t seem to tell much about injuries at all… Classified Kristick as a “leg injury”… Smith is a beast though… Like him to get back into the starting role…
me too...
He reminds me of Merton Hanks… The way he plays anyway… Also, a legitimate threat on interception runbacks…
Can't chicken dance
I survived Nnamdiwatch 2011
by Mertons_merkin on Sep 1, 2011 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
wow now a mediocre defensive back is a beast? lets put this word to its death
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by MichaelClutchtree on Sep 1, 2011 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
forgive this guy
he is blinded by his mancrush on Michael “clutch” tree. You know. Cause he’s been so “clutch.”…
Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.
That game was fun
Actually saw the offense I thought Harbaugh was aiming for. Using Hunter, Dixon, Edwards and Walker in a rotation and quickly mixing the ball all around the field. Finally saw the real 49ers offense tonight and it makes sense.
I’m glad our 1st Rnd pick Demarcus Dobbs is looking the part. Looking like the 49ers won’t have to use a few high draft picks on 3-4 defense DE in the next 2 years. Aldon looked better, he is still walking right into the OTs block at times but thought he finally flashed something.
Based on the preseason trend the 49ers will go 8-8 looking like the worst team in football week and SB contender the next. Might kinda look like the Seahawks season last year.
Not sure if my boy Phillip Adams made the team. Seriously on the bubble.
Had the FF live draft during the game. It was funny watching Norris blow his block, than barely catch the pass at his pads and unbelievably juke someone running. P Willy made the comment it took Norris 5 seconds to make that cut. He also got the key block on Dixon’s 2nd TD but was probably a 1.5 seconds late getting there. Clearly the 49ers night.
Oh
It’s always nice to see the Alma Matter get into the game. Whoever #13 was left him out to dry and that beautiful pass. Ken O’ Brien can kiss my happy ass. We still own the CFL and the NFL is next.
Ahhhhhhh, it's starting to make sense now. Does 40-18 have any meaning to you?
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
I didn't even think it was that close
I’m thrilled my schools’ program finally figured who they are, instead of who they dreamed they were. No more wasting scholarship of prototypical size kids who obviously are gonna flunk out of school in 9 months.
Always thought the Aggies got it right aligning themselves with good HS players who were passed over for size and speed issues. Passion for football would keep those kids in school and although supposedly undersized and too slow would lacerate opponents with experience and dedication to their craft by their junior and senior seasons.
Oh well, if memory serves me correct we’ve beaten you the last two seasons … could be three.
Actually, you guys won in '08 and '09, the Ags won last year.
Those two victories in ‘08 and ’09 broke a string of 8 Ag wins in a row, ’00-’07, inclusive. BTW, Davis will be joining The Big Sky Conference in ’12, so the games will again start having the increased significance of counting in the conference standings.
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
Alex is our starting QB
No surprise there I guess, as he does seem to be showing signs of promise; I think it all really depends on how well the o-line holds though…or fails to hold—on any given Sunday.
What I wanna know is, does Miller get the nod @ FB or will the coaches sign Alex’s death warrant by starting all mighty Norris ‘the marble statue’.
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Someone just needs to always piss off Joe Staley before games.
He was railroading people tonight.
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seriously...
The line played possessed out there… Especially Staley and Rachal…
I hope that stays consistent.
Because if it does, we could be seeing a lot more exciting football team this year.
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If we open holes like that every game who needs a QB...
If the gameplan looks like that first drive, but for a whole game, this niners team will be going places…
Hunter is going to ultimately replace Gore as an every down back.
I still think Harbaugh will roll with the multiple back approach but he can rip off big gains. He’s dangerous.
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Yes he is...
He stays healthy and he is the starting back in 2 seasons… I think he and Gore compliment each other nicely while both being dangerous… Almost like Charles and Jones last season… Dixon is a good short yardage guy…
Gore may end his career here, but Hunter will start getting more and more reps… I really think we may have stolen another mid-round RBOTF…
The run blocking will be key...
If the D tries to T-off on Alex, we will make them pay with run yardage. When they shift to defend the run, we can kill them in the air. And with the packages Harbaugh will be showing, the D will never know what is coming!
by ColoradoNiner on Sep 2, 2011 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I am going to have to watch the Cardinals and Seahawks later.
Cardinals mopped up the Broncos 26 – 7
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Kolb barely played. His backup (R. Bartel) had a nice game, though.
Looking at the Tenn. boxscore for no reason and Jake Locker had a solid game: 15/17, 132, 1 TD
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by Young_To_Rice on Sep 1, 2011 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
good...
I hope he succeeds… Especially in a city that we only see every 4 years…
unless it’s preseason…but even then the game wouldn’t count for anything
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I can't wait to see how Fangio tries to rattle Kolb.
He looks like 2005 Alex Smith on some plays. He seems like a guy that gets easily rattled. And when he gets angry he starts playing worse a la Derek Anderson.
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Kaepernick
What did you guys think of CK7? Did his INTs and general play worry you?
Jim Harbaugh doesn't just WANT winners, he MAKES them!
I thought he looked and acted like the NFL game was too fast for him. It appeared as though he could only process two reads before having to bail on the pocket.
Jim Harbaugh doesn't just WANT winners, he MAKES them!
Nah.
He still showed some good things. One of those INT’s wasn’t even on him. He’ll be fine developing in the wings.
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I never saw Alex’s 2005 preseason. Can anyone recall how Alex looked in his first preseason in comparison to CK7? That would provide some helpful context.
Jim Harbaugh doesn't just WANT winners, he MAKES them!
Alex Smith was pretty darn bad in 2005.
1TD and 11 INT’s.
I don’t remember that specific preseason but my guess is that Kaep is quite a bit better.
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But also, Smith was running for his life as a rookie playing against starers.
Kaep has mostly played against 2nd team guys.
Too hard to tell that.
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So comparing Smith as the second string QB to CK7 would be apples to apples, except for the fact that JH is a real head coach who knows offense and MN definitely was NOT.
Jim Harbaugh doesn't just WANT winners, he MAKES them!
That and the surrounding talent.
Smith had far less talent around him back then overall than Kaep has now.
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by Young_To_Rice on Sep 1, 2011 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
This is exactly why you cant make this comparison.
This team is by far better then the team Alex was drafted into… Alex has had it tough here in San Fran. Kaep should have a much smoother transition. The raw talent is there.
Roster was decent in 2006.
2005 it had serious issues. I thought the 2006 roster was far better than 2007 and 2008.
I disagree
Was the strength of the team. Larry Allen, Justin Smiley and the one good half season from Jonas Jennings. 2007 offensive line was horrendous, none of those guys I just mentioned made it back. 2007 offensive line was down right despicable, worse than 2009.
They certainly improved the line.. but
We still had Kwame Harris and Adam Snyder on there, plus, Heitmann wasn’t that good that year. Not as good as his last two years he spent with the team.
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No
He’s a rookie. He does what I expect a rookie to do. Alex must look at Kaep’s play and think: Man if I could have played behind a vet back in 2005 while being coached by a competent coaching staff….
I thought his under-thrown ball in the end zone was his 1st real bad pass of the preseason. He so green, his clock is slow and doesn’t know what passes he can get away with at this level. Thought his underneath passes have been great. Arm is good, timing is mostly good, can get away from some rushes but simply not ready.
Yeah, he is very accurate on the standard throws a QB has to make (slants, curls etc.)
It’s the throws where he had to show touch or thread the needle where he seemed tentative in my view.
by SanFranciscoKnights on Sep 1, 2011 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
To me, he seemed kinda lost and too tentative.
He showed the ability to escape pressure, which isn’t a surprise, but when he did have time he seemed to hesitate and hold the ball too long.
He’ll get better, but we have to have low expectations for him this year because he is a project QB. Not having the offseason to work w/ Harbaugh definitely hurt him and it shows.
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by Young_To_Rice on Sep 1, 2011 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Kaep is still very Green
McCown, OTH, looked like he could step into a game and produce. I’ve yet to see enough from CK to convince me he will be any more than a perennial backup QB in the NFL, but it’s early days yet.
by suffrin9erfan on Sep 1, 2011 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I would like to point out that that was not our Offense out there....
Well, not all of it anyhow. Harbaugh didn’t go the first 3 preseason games holding his cards close to his chest, just to reveal them in a meaningless game. It will only get better as time goes on.
The O-line did a great job tonight. It will take a few games to right the ship for good, but tonight was great.
Dobbs and Aldon Smith tear it up together. Dobbs could make a strong move to unseat McDonald as the starter soon.
He showed some cards
Still looks like he is holding some cards back. Did anyone notice VD was harder to find than Waldo the entire preseason?
Yup
Maybe he’ll get to develop his repertoire beyond just the #11 to #85 seam route that opposing D’s loved to focus on.
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by Young_To_Rice on Sep 1, 2011 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I think so...
Coaches seem to give them optimal playing time to prove themselves.
by David Fucillo on Sep 1, 2011 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Applewhite seems pretty valuable on ST's.
And Grant is a good back up for Bowman.
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What about Ziggy?
I thought I saw him get some late playing time…are we thinking he’s gone?
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I am not sure.
I am assuming he doesn’t get in. I won’t be happy about it, but I think that is the reality. Someone will for sure pick him up though.
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What's his ceiling? A #3 guy probably?
I haven’t followed him too closely, but from I’ve read he’s valuable because he runs precise routes, has good hands and body control, and is a tall target. That about sum it up?
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by Young_To_Rice on Sep 1, 2011 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
lol... I meant...
I meant that what he chose to describe Ziegler sounded a lot like what people say about Edwards…
I am really impressed with Ginn and I retract all my statements about him dropping passes.
He did bobble that one in the RZ though. He came down with it, but I thought… oh boy, here we go…. for like …a second.
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Seriously...
I can’t believe he kept his eyes on the ball though… Smith lasered that one in and Butler nearly got his hand on it… Solid catch really… At least when it hit his hands, he brought it in…
I do recall he had a tackle on Hunter
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by Badly Browned on Sep 1, 2011 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
After he broke a 10 yard run or something?
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Something like that heh
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by Badly Browned on Sep 1, 2011 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
on the radio they said that he almost whiffed on that tackle, was that correct?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 2, 2011 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions
So, Tim Ryan mentioned that Alex is being given the option to change the play this year?
He has not had that luxury in years previous. Wonder if it will hurt or help.
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I would think help...
It’s not like the guy isn’t smart enough to make a good call, and I actually thought he did his best work when he was calling the plays in the hurry up…
I liked seeing him run for the 1st tonight.
We have not seen his wheels in a while and he actually is pretty fast. I forgot how quick he was for a QB. All those years of running for his life paid off.
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He ran a high 4.6 low 4.7
Little slower than the Tebow type. But Alex can actually throw. Better than average athleticism.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 2, 2011 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Could only imagine it would help....
before he was force to run a play that was in the Ds favor, now he can change the call, I like it.
by ericalancanty on Sep 1, 2011 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
oh boy
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 2, 2011 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions
O-Line
Seems to me that the O-Line situation is the critical one. Are they the line from the Raiders/Chargers or the line from the Saints/Texans? Do they only play well against west coast teams and get crushed by Southern teams? If the line gives Smith time he can be affective enough to win us some games. Also, the one-two punch of Gore/Hunter looks mouth watering.
I was also really impressed by Aldon and Dobbs (as many have mentioned). Smith’s long arms are a real weapon and despite being a raw baby, he’s got some man strength. If he continues to work on technique, watch out. His swim move is already devastating.
The quality of the Niner’s pass protection and pass rush will define the season. After the pre-season I’m afraid the verdict is still out, but I think the national media are under estimating this team. Hopefully our opponents will too.
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by LeMasterBlaster on Sep 1, 2011 11:16 PM PDT reply actions
McLeod Bethel-Thompson is our FUTURE
Sorry, couldn’t help myself.
If Harbaugh’s plan for the pre-season was to confuse everyone about just what this 49er team will be like when the real season starts, he couldn’t have succeeded any better. I have little to no idea now what we are going to see come Game 1 against Seattle. If they can put it together like they did today and against the Raiders , we could be in for a welcome surprise, but who can really tell at this point?
Highlights
"The principle is competing against yourself. It's about self improvement, about being better than you were the day before." ~Steve Young #8
9er faithful have faith in jim walsh
oh you of little faith, how now brown cow. i still believe and our first half schedule is soft and we go 7-1 and rams play all the tough teams and go 2-6. 42-13 over seattle. guess you had to see to believe
watching replay
some thoughts:
Hunter’s skills are ridiculous, draft steal so far.
Anthony “Dozer” Dixon is just that …a bulldozer, wish he could play fullback and have him and Gore/Hunter on the field at the same time
Edwards fade catch was in bounds, where the red flag Jim? in the hotel?
Ginn looks like a real WR for the first time in his carrer, hope he can do half of DeSean Jackson does for the Eagles
The OL looks like a bulldozer on the running game but Stanley need to step up big time in pass protection he looked bad in a couple of snaps.
First time I see Alice play with some instincts, almost cried here…he smelled pressure pretty well today
Can’t say it enough times, the sky is the limit!!!! for the Defence, very excited of the diferents blitz options that Fangio brings to the table.
Bowman a draft steal in the making, after seeing that SICK play on the 1st fumble, can wait to see Bowman exploiting his pass rush ability over the middle
Aldon will only get better….Culliver too, both could be steals too
Kap too but he’s miles away to be the 2nd QB on the roster lets not talk about him staring right now please! McCow has the experience, let Kap take it easy this year, we know the consequences of throwing rokies QB to the wolfs, the birth of Alice lol
in general, talent all over the place, very good core of backups in all fronts, I guess we can say that Jed Dork and T Balke wants to bring the glory days back to town, god job there in FA and of course the best move geting JH love him, love the fire on his eyes like on his playing days on that Pic, hope he can inject some of that passion for the game to Alice thats what he needs to do, put his confidence together,s just amaizing that he hasnt give up, hope he does well he is a very good guy, if he does well, playoffs baby
one last thing before I go to sleep ….thanks God i know i know…..
BRING THOSE F@kng seecocks !!!! Jim will kick Carroll’s ass one more time baby
have a Blessed night niners!!
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So McCow and McBLT ...
One is soon to be up for slaughter and next is already being served?
by bignerd on Sep 2, 2011 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pretty much agree with you
except I wouldn’t call Alcon a steal at the 7th overall pick. If he’s not at least solid it’d be a let down.
Watching the replay
Nice job culliver. Rook looked good. Anybody else sick and tired of that “highlight” of Driver pimp smacking our secondary?
cory nelms makes the practice squad
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the youngins
i’m looking forward to seeing how bowman, hunter, and aldon smith develop. nice ballin today. kaep had a rough night, but i think its just growing pains. so much potential, but i’m trying not to get overly excited about kaep.
Alex Smith is garbage...
Whats YOUR DEAL!?
ROFL harbaugh looks like a cross between cool hand luke and bill walsh, it may be early but dam i like his swagger
im really impressed with alex this preseason.
His pocket presence has been good but more than that his trademark deer in headlights look hasnt been there, even with the way the o-line played at times. Hes stood in that pocket as all hell breaks loose nd even stepped into some hits to make a throw. And not once did he rollout and throw it away.
2011 mock draft
1st- Patrick Peterson CB, 2nd- Jake Locker QB, 3rd-Allen Bailey DE, 4th- Dontay Moch OLB, 4th- Jacquizz Rodgers RB, 5th- Owen Marecic FB, 6th- Greg McElroy QB, 6th- Jake Kirkpatrick OC, 7th- Derrick Lock RB, 7th- Greg Salas WR
by Sippin'onGinn&Juice on Sep 2, 2011 5:07 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
it's amazing what a
change of the right coaching staff can do for a QB when he’s given enough time to throw…not entirely sure about the o-line though. I need to see some consistency before I start buying
by Doni S on Sep 2, 2011 9:16 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
you must have watched different games
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 2, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
He didn't throw a single TD...
and when the O-Line actually showed up, he missed fades like the one to Edwards. We brought in Culpepper for a workout for god sake. Your really impressed with Alex Smith? Impressive is what Matthew Stafford showed this pre-season.
by Forttyner4life on Sep 2, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh jeez this again
You simply can’t use Culpepper as any kind of argument against anything…Him and Alex Smith have nothing to do with one another.
Edwards caught the fade he threw btw…Just may have been a touch out of bounds, stop nitpicking nonsense.
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