Final 49ers 53-Man Roster Projection
by David Fucillo on Sep 2, 2011 8:01 AM PDT
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PrintNow that the 49ers 2011 preseason schedule is complete, the team will make their final roster cuts between now and early Saturday afternoon as they look to cut down to a 53-man roster. After last night's game, Coach Harbaugh mentioned how a lot of guys made decisions more difficult with their performance.
While that might be the case for whether to sign a guy to the practice squad, in going through a final 53-man roster projection, I just couldn't see any changes. Alex Joseph had a solid game yesterday but I think he had too far to come back and without first or early second string reps, it just wasn't going to happen. I'd argue my toughest remaining choice was whether Konrad Reuland or Nate Lawrie makes the team as the third tight end. Lawrie got second team snaps last night while Reuland came in later, but I still think Reuland is the pick.
I continue to believe Moran Norris makes the team. People might not like it, but considering he got the first team snaps early yesterday, I just don't see him getting cut. I could very well be wrong, but I'm not seeing it.
And Demarcus Dobbs remains on my 53-man roster after another strong performance. I was on the fence between Dobbs and Tukuafu heading into the Texans game, but Dobbs has brought a level of consistency that needs to be rewarded. I'm not sure where he'd fit into the rotation, but he's shown he can make some kind of legitimate impact. I'd say that would give the defensive line some solid depth heading into the season.
Head after the jump to view my final projection and feel free to criticize and offer up your own before cuts start coming down.
QB (3): Alex Smith, Josh McCown, Colin Kaepernick
RB (3): Frank Gore, Anthony Dixon, Kendall Hunter
FB (2): Moran Norris, Bruce Miller
TE (3): Vernon Davis, Delanie Walker, Konrad Reuland
WR (5): Braylon Edwards, Michael Crabtree, Josh Morgan, Kyle Williams, Ted Ginn
OT (3): Joe Staley, Anthony Davis, Alex Boone
OG (5): Mike Iupati, Chilo Rachal, Adam Snyder, Daniel Kilgore, Mike Person
C (1): Jonathan Goodwin
NT (2): Isaac Sopoaga, Ian Williams
DE (4): Justin Smith, Ray McDonald, Ricky Jean Francois, Demarcus Dobbs
OLB (4): Aldon Smith, Parys Haralson, Ahmad Brooks, Antwan Applewhite
ILB (4): Patrick Willis, NaVorro Bowman, Larry Grant, Blake Costanzo
CB (6): Carlos Rogers, Shawntae Spencer, Tarell Brown, Chris Culliver, Phillip Adams, Tramaine Brock
S (5): Dashon Goldson, Donte Whitner, Reggie Smith, Madieu Williams, C.J. Spillman
K (1): David Akers
P (1): Andy Lee
LOS (1): Brian Jennings
Last Four On: Ted Ginn, C.J. Spillman, Phillip Adams, Moran Norris
First Four Off: Will Tukuafu, Curtis Taylor, Ronald Johnson, Dominique Zeigler
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Can't disagree with any of those
Immediate areas of weakness that jump out are NT and FB. Other than that I’m pretty happy with the depth chart, well, except for QB.
It will be interesting to see if we add a QB or FB once other teams make their cuts. It seems to me that the FB position would be the easiest position to fill.
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
Areas of weakness
I think FB seems pretty solid, really. Norris is a pretty big punching bag around here, but Miller looks like he’ll be solid, if given enough reps and practice. I agree on NT though, it’ll be a tough season if Soaps doesn’t step up. I guess RJF could always fill in.
OLB looks a little questionable to me, though. We really only have one starter there, in Brooks. Haralson has always seemed a bit underwhelming to me, and Aldon Smith looks like he’ll be good in time, but is he ready to start right away? Also, OLB man-to-man coverage is going to be pretty shaky.
by Mycroft's Brother on Sep 2, 2011 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions
OLB may be an area where the F.O. scans the waiver wire closely. Did that ex-Steeler, Gibson who the Niners cut recently get picked up by any other team?
I saw a while back he was re-claimed by Pittsburgh
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by Young_To_Rice on Sep 2, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone concerned about
LaMarr Woodley in pass coverage?
Tamba Hali in pass coverage?
DeMarcus Ware in pass coverage?
You always get more out of your pass rusher when they are going after the passer. Putting them in coverage is the kind of getting “too cute” that other teams take advantage of.
Oh Kap...
Your pre season performance was, how to put it…practice squad worthy?
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by Brave Neander on Sep 2, 2011 8:32 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Really it should be expected
The only thing I worry about is that motion. It may not make a difference on most passes because he can make up for it with his velocity. However that endzone INT he through got me thinking about the touch passes. It seems obvious that those passes will take longer to deliver because of the windup. I don’t know how he’s going to make up for that.
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
what worries me
Is that generally he looks comfortable in the pocket. I dont think its an issue of defenses or the offensive scheme overwhelming him, his throws have just been terrible. Throwing into double and triple coverages, and seemingly regressing from where he was his senior year in terms of putting the right touch on the ball. He definitely has the benefit of the doubt at this point, but I find myself cringing every time the ball is in the air. And yes, that two-point throwing motion is very unsettling.
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by Brave Neander on Sep 2, 2011 9:19 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Sorry man no he doesn't.
As usual Tim is full of it
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 2, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
ya, alex gets the ball out so quick he gets sacked with the ball after 4 seconds of not knowing what to do. go time their release and also time from release to when it hits the receiver.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 3, 2011 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions
why practice squad?
who else would we move up on the roster? McBLT? Leave Kaep on the roster and let him watch Alex Smith for 1 year on everything you should NOT do as an NFL QB, then during the off-season, he can work on not doing any Smith traits and be successful next year.
I wasn’t serious about the practice squad comment. Just a reflection on how bad he’s looked. He’d be best served as #3 on the depth chart right now.
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by Brave Neander on Sep 2, 2011 9:42 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Can't put CK on the PS ... another team would quickly grab him as their #3 QB on their 53!
by 49erFanSince1950 on Sep 2, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
He’d be starting for the raiders by week 4.
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by Brave Neander on Sep 2, 2011 10:42 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Moran Norris
got some receiving yards last night!!! Believe in Harbaugh!
Why is our off-season more exciting than our regular season?!
Follow me @eNNCity
before we get all excited
he BARELY juked what I believe was a DE in the open field
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
Actually Norris has quit a few good blocks , two down towards the End Zone ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
Norris appears to be of some value to Harbaugh/Roman in their Jumbo package. Even if he makes the team, he might still get cut later in the season if Miller continues to move up the learning curve.
he must be reading
our posts and not liking all the tomatoes that have been thrown his way. I still want Miller starting ahead of him
by Doni S on Sep 2, 2011 9:30 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
misspelling irony....
he has ‘quit’ a few good blocks. muwahahaha
Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.
Re: Norris ... not sure what you're watching; I just don't see that there's much competition there.
Granted, Norris has experience and Miller doesn’t … yet. But, Norris seems to make so few really effective blocks … he looks like he’s running around trying to find somebody to hit, rather than seeking out a specific target.
Conversely, Miller is much quicker and really attacks his target; and, he can catch and run with the ball. Frankly, given the fact that he’s learning a new position on the other side of the ball, I’ve been absolutely amazed by Miller’s performance and development so far. He’s “getting it” much faster (i.e, fewer reps due to shortened camp) than Brit Miller did. Does he make mistakes? Sure. But I’d much rather watch mistakes of youthful overaggresiveness while learning on the fly than watch Norris wollow and try to hold on.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Sep 2, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Norris
brings nothing to the team.Miller will be starting before too long if not right away.If they need another blocker they can put a TE in at FB here and there. Keeping Norris makes them cut a player than might be a star in the future. Keep one of the young guys and cut Norris.
thing is
We know what Wragge can do. We don’t know what Person’s upside is. We don’t really need Wragge as a backup with Snyder and Boone being there so you’d like to keep Person on the team by keeping him on the 53.
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
Wragge
If I remember right, Wragge wasn’t on the 53-man roster to start last year, either. No one signed him, until we got hit hard by injuries and called him up. I’d be a little surprised if he weren’t in the same situation this year, waiting for a call. I feel bad for the guy, though, he does deserve to be at least a backup on some team.
by Mycroft's Brother on Sep 2, 2011 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions
This is one of my primary internal debates...
I originally kept Wragge on my 53 and put Person on my PS, which I would still do IF I felt that Person would clear waivers… after watching him closely last night, I no longer feel that he’ll clear waivers, so I now keep Person, and reluctantly waive Wragge.
Also, I only keep 1 FB, and that’s Miller.
Does anyone yet know the extent of Kristick’s injury? If he’s “good to go”, I keep him in place of the 2nd FB.
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
ILB and Ziggy
Do most teams carry 4 ILBs? I guess in a 3-4 it’s not a bad idea, but I don’t seem to remember. Though Costanzo’s probably making it more for his special teams play.
Man, it’s a bummer that Ziggy’s most likely not going to make the team. It’s sad to see a player finally get his chance to play like he did last year, and get injured before he can show anything. I hope he catches on somewhere, if not here.
There really aren’t any names on this team I’d like to see cut (well, maybe Norris, but I can live with him on the team). Last year, I remember being frustrated by players like Demetrius Evans making it, mediocre veterans whose production probably could have been replaced by rookies with upside. This group looks solid.
by Mycroft's Brother on Sep 2, 2011 8:48 AM PDT reply actions
It's one of the toughest cuts this year.
The key is to stay healthy. He has not been able to do that.
Not able to stay healthy?
He was injured last year vs the Cards. He’s rehabbed the injury and is finally back. How does one injury make him injury prone?
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Matt Kemp - NL MVP Clayton Kershaw - NL Cy Young
cut kap
If Kaepernick was a late round pick he would be gone he is god awful. Another year of handing Alex Smith the starting quarterback job with no competition.
you want to cut the 36th overall pick after 5 weeks?
were you the one that sent out the mass email to trade mays? and to think, all this time we’ve been blaming timmy when it was really johnny!
by reedkrase on Sep 2, 2011 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
36th pick is right. Kaepernicks draft position is the only thing keeping him in the nfl hes horrible. Even for a rookie project he stinks.
did you see the other rookie QBs
most of them were horrible in the preseason, maybe their teams should cut them too. With your way of thinking maybe we should cut Aldon Smith too, based on game 3.
Seemed like everyone took there head out of there rear end showed up and played well last night. Everyone but Kaepernick. What a turnover machine. The thought of him being involved in a quarterback competition is laughable.
Different players are chosen for different reasons
The original plan was to bring Kaepernick along slowly in his rookie season. This appears to be what the 49ers are doing. Everyone knew he’d be a project, everyone expected his development to take more than 5 weeks when he was drafted. Can’t see why you’re upset with a player for being exactly what we knew he was when we drafted him.
We drafted him for 3 - 5 years from now
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 2, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
not to be cynical
but we drafted nate davis with the same intentions.
Ninjames on Anthony Dixon's Tweeting:
"He’s going for the ‘T’ key, he should probably turn to it, but he stops and checks out the ‘R’ key first, then doubles back for a look at the ‘Y’ key, then by the time he decides to go back to ‘T’ to get some words typed, he’s brought down for a two-yard loss, ending up with the ‘G’ key."
To be the eventual starter? I think not
Few QBs drafted in the fifth round and later are targeted as QBsOTF; the Niners were hoping to beat the odds and maybe craft a serviceable young backup to Hill. Their problem was that Nate needed a QB coach, not the Singletary/Raye show.
Interesting that the Colts, who were interested in Nate but took Curtis Painter instead, signed Nate during TC this year…and promptly cut him loose.
So you are calling him a bust in one preseason nice
Do you think you can hone your craft so you can call out busts before it.
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
by manraj7 on Sep 2, 2011 9:19 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I ignore the thoughts of anyone who doesn't know the difference between...
“there” and “their”
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
Kaep was drafted as a talent guy
As in, hes got the talent to be a good QB. He just needs to be taught the pro game. He hasnt exactly had alot of time to learn it yet, now has he?
dont overreact
Yes, Kap looks awful, but his biggest asset coming out of UNR was his work ethic and his ability to progress from year to year. He needs time. Lots and lots of time. I must say I don’t ever want to see him on the field this season. Not for a package, not for a play.
Much easier, all-mighty Megatron, then attacking the real threat...The Autobots moonbase!!
by Brave Neander on Sep 2, 2011 9:22 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Awful, Really?
He didn’t look awful when he was breaking takles cutting loose and extending plays. The interceptions don’t have to be his legacy. He’s about a month into practicing for his future job. He’ll learn to make better decisions, and throw to the right places.
Play to Win!
im not saying youre wrong
But yes, his throwing and accuracy have been terrible. Sub-50% completion rate I believe. I do believe his scrambling ability has been very good however.
Much easier, all-mighty Megatron, then attacking the real threat...The Autobots moonbase!!
by Brave Neander on Sep 2, 2011 9:53 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Why not give Harbaugh an off-season to help him?
Did you not see how elusive kaep was? The dude came in as a project, and you give him 5 weeks to be pro ready coming from a pistol offense? Give the great QB mentor at least 1 off season to hone his skills man. You guys need to calm down.
im not disagreeing with any of this
I am calm
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by Brave Neander on Sep 2, 2011 9:54 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
That’s why I said is prefer not to see him on the field at all this season. He needs all the time he can get. Having said that, I’m sure we’ll see him in some specific packages from time to time this season.
Much easier, all-mighty Megatron, then attacking the real threat...The Autobots moonbase!!
by Brave Neander on Sep 2, 2011 9:57 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
wow
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 2, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
wow?
Much easier, all-mighty Megatron, then attacking the real threat...The Autobots moonbase!!
by Brave Neander on Sep 2, 2011 10:04 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
yup
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 2, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
for once
I agree with you:
Wow.
Ninjames on Anthony Dixon's Tweeting:
"He’s going for the ‘T’ key, he should probably turn to it, but he stops and checks out the ‘R’ key first, then doubles back for a look at the ‘Y’ key, then by the time he decides to go back to ‘T’ to get some words typed, he’s brought down for a two-yard loss, ending up with the ‘G’ key."
alright, ill join the club
Wow.
Much easier, all-mighty Megatron, then attacking the real threat...The Autobots moonbase!!
by Brave Neander on Sep 2, 2011 10:09 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes, let's take a rookie
throw them in a WCO offense being installed for the first time, expect them to tear it up, and cut them when they don’t.
Never expected him to tear it up.
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by Brave Neander on Sep 2, 2011 10:10 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
look
I’m on the Kap bandwagon. I’m not saying he’s doomed as a pro, or he should be relegated to the practice squad, or cut. He’s looked exactly how I expected him to look. I’m skeptical, but that doesn’t mean he can’t be our QBOTF. I’m just throwing out some criticism, and I think I’m not off base. I live in reno, and I’m rooting for him. I agree he needs time, that’s all.
Much easier, all-mighty Megatron, then attacking the real threat...The Autobots moonbase!!
by Brave Neander on Sep 2, 2011 10:13 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Kap was beyond bad. When you look at his stats on nfl.com. Statistically only one rookie qb played worse than Kaepernick this preseason. Its one thing to suck but my point is Kaepernick took futility to another level.
i dont know about all that...
But trust me, he’ll get better. He has outstanding work ethic, and he’s very intelligent. He has the intangibles, he just needs time. If he looks like this in year 2 or 3, that’s a different story. But your Kap hate is waaaay off base right now.
Much easier, all-mighty Megatron, then attacking the real threat...The Autobots moonbase!!
by Brave Neander on Sep 2, 2011 10:27 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm a stat-head
But I’m the first person to tell you that statistics in the pre-season, traditional and advanced, are all completely meaningless. They have no predictive power, and even lack in descriptive ability because of the confounding variables.
what about alex smith’s stats in this preseason? kap had better stats than smith in a few of those games lol
if that thought was true many good qb would be cut their rookie year
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 2, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Silly Ougadas
don’t you know it takes no skill to run the WCO
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Thats exactly what Sing said
I am on to you Ougadas
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Probably a chick flick
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
49erJohnny for GM!
/not
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Sep 2, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
we should have cut Vernon...
he had the dropsies as a rookie…
by Sigelvictory on Sep 2, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Heck, Jerry Rice had "the dropsies" as a rookie...
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
LOL why are Niners fans such clowns?
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 2, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll be sad to see Curtis Taylor go, disappointed to see Tukuafu go, and puzzled by RoJo
"The past is the past. The only time I look into the rear view is for the cops and I don't speed." -Shawn Andrews
Tukuafu and Rojo have PS eligibility
sad to see Taylor go, still think he has more upside at the safety position that spillman
i am sad to see spillman on the team
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 2, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
smh
"I may be an idiot, but one thing I'm not sir, is an idiot." - Peter Griffin
Matt Kemp - NL MVP Clayton Kershaw - NL Cy Young
I thought Tuk made the team last year
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 2, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Dobbs = Wow!
That kid came to claim a roster spot last night. The guy wanted it!
Lets hope the 9ers reward such an effort with a roster spot for him.
Dobbs is a 49er for sure
A couple years from now, he’ll be pushing for a starting spot.
Play to Win!
couple of years?
they way he pushes the guard and center around for aldon smith, he is 4-5 games in or an injury happening from starting.
Dobbs and Aldon make a great team
Couldn’t help but notice that Dobbs would just manhandle his OL, forcing a double-team…and leaving the path clear for Aldon to hunt down the QB.
by NinerEd on Sep 2, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
This was my observation, as well. As well as Aldon played, his sacks and QB pressures were
largely the result of an amazing bull rush vs a double team by Dobbs. If Dobbs doesn’t make the 53 I’d be stupefied!!!!!!!
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
Dobbs will still needs some time to develop as the intensity will go up as the season starts
but he has all you could look for in a 3-4 DE from the physical tools perspective & has some serious nastiness, he just needs some time to grow under the tutelage of Jim Tomsula & Justin Smith
Aldon Smith was a beast, but...
Im still not convinced he can drop back and cover when needed, therefore, not sure he is a starter… but clearly he will be there when a Pass Rush is needed.
I keep hearing
tons of praise about Dobbs and I wonder, what exactly has McDonald been doing…I have heard absolutely nothing about him although I guess that’s probably expected given that he’s our automatic starter as the other DE and we’re mostly talking about who makes the 53-cut. Don’t suppose they’d give Dobbs a chance if McDonald struggles to get any pressure on the QB?
by Doni S on Sep 2, 2011 9:40 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
gotta believe RJF would get in there first
but d-linemen get rotated, so all of them could see playing time.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
McDonald will never have big sack numbers, but if he can pressure the QB and be solid on the run
then he is definitely doing his job. Plus I truly believe that they will give McDonald time to see if the added playing time would increase his production if it doesnt then you could see them more to a rotational system where Dobbs & McDonald would see time at the other DE spot opposite Justin Smith
What is “beast”? I’ve heard this word so much it’s lost all meaning to me
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by MichaelClutchtree on Sep 2, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
the number of times you've commented about the word 'beast'
is beast.
Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.
by Arkie49er on Sep 2, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Beastmode is what Marshawn Lynch went
when he chokeslammed that dude 5 yards
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 2, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I keep hearing this, and I don't understand it
His job is to get after the QB. If he’s in coverage enough times to make large negative impact then something is majorly wrong with our defensive scheme.
one of the OLBs
In a 3-4 has to be able to cover at the very least. so yes it is important. Aldon is skinny and plays standing straight up so I understand people’s concerns.
by brenrobb on Sep 2, 2011 1:36 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Tukuafu
I can see making it if they dont wanna keep norris or taking a CB off like Brock/adams.
I know it cant happen this way just wouldnt make sense
But screw Norris.. and that 3rd TE. I would rather see us keep guys that have good potential in the future like Zeigler and Omon.
so screw players who will play this year to keep players who will probably never play that much?
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 2, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I think
he means Norris isn’t worth keeping over younger guys w/‘more’ potential
by Doni S on Sep 2, 2011 12:25 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
zeigler if often injured every single year, rarely makes the field, and would rarely make the field on this roster, the same with omon. moran and the third te would actually play
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 2, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Zeigler
ok, how many years of “in the future” does this guy have left? What’s the hold up? I like his name too, but if he doesn’t have it, he doesn’t have it. And if he has it, he’ll be on the roster, by hook or by crook.
Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.
He would have made the team last year but he broke his leg
Which is why he wasn’t involved much in pre-season. He’s 3rd year now
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 2, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
can dobbs play olb?
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
doubt it
he’s a big dude, and it’d be a conversion just like Aldon Smith
Ninjames on Anthony Dixon's Tweeting:
"He’s going for the ‘T’ key, he should probably turn to it, but he stops and checks out the ‘R’ key first, then doubles back for a look at the ‘Y’ key, then by the time he decides to go back to ‘T’ to get some words typed, he’s brought down for a two-yard loss, ending up with the ‘G’ key."
he is listed about the same weight as tamba hali
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/25270 dobbs
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7769 tamba
tamba also played d-line in college
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamba_Hali
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 2, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah
Hali is an exception to the rule though. There just aren’t many huge dudes with game like that.
Ninjames on Anthony Dixon's Tweeting:
"He’s going for the ‘T’ key, he should probably turn to it, but he stops and checks out the ‘R’ key first, then doubles back for a look at the ‘Y’ key, then by the time he decides to go back to ‘T’ to get some words typed, he’s brought down for a two-yard loss, ending up with the ‘G’ key."
i hope dobbs can make it on the field in rushing situations this year
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 2, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Me thinks they’ll rotate because I just can’t see McDonald out there the entire game. He’d probably be gassed by 1/2 time. Personally I think Dobbs is gonna be better than RJF @ DE…but they’re both pretty good in their own right. More so for Dobbs because he went undrafted. Not sure how that happened…
by Doni S on Sep 2, 2011 12:31 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
McDonald's conditioning has supposedly improved
and he was one of our most valuable situational players last year (against kicks, in particular). I don’t think you can start a UDFA rookie. Dobbs has earned his roster spot, but he earned it playing against mostly scrubs.
Ninjames on Anthony Dixon's Tweeting:
"He’s going for the ‘T’ key, he should probably turn to it, but he stops and checks out the ‘R’ key first, then doubles back for a look at the ‘Y’ key, then by the time he decides to go back to ‘T’ to get some words typed, he’s brought down for a two-yard loss, ending up with the ‘G’ key."
He is the size of McDonald and Smith
isn’t he
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
oh I just guesstimated
they look the same
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
not according to yahoo
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 2, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
who's yahoo?
whoever Yahoo is, maybe he should come call the plays
dad gum yahoo
Ninjames on Anthony Dixon's Tweeting:
"He’s going for the ‘T’ key, he should probably turn to it, but he stops and checks out the ‘R’ key first, then doubles back for a look at the ‘Y’ key, then by the time he decides to go back to ‘T’ to get some words typed, he’s brought down for a two-yard loss, ending up with the ‘G’ key."
to me it should not even be a question, aldon
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 2, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Haralson
with Aldon entering in passing situations
Ninjames on Anthony Dixon's Tweeting:
"He’s going for the ‘T’ key, he should probably turn to it, but he stops and checks out the ‘R’ key first, then doubles back for a look at the ‘Y’ key, then by the time he decides to go back to ‘T’ to get some words typed, he’s brought down for a two-yard loss, ending up with the ‘G’ key."
I agree...
I would rather lose with youth than spin our wheel with Haralson… who isn’t all that good in coverage as it is.
by Sigelvictory on Sep 2, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
You can't blitz him every single down...
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 2, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, you COULD
like Clay Matthews or Demarcus Ware.
Ninjames on Anthony Dixon's Tweeting:
"He’s going for the ‘T’ key, he should probably turn to it, but he stops and checks out the ‘R’ key first, then doubles back for a look at the ‘Y’ key, then by the time he decides to go back to ‘T’ to get some words typed, he’s brought down for a two-yard loss, ending up with the ‘G’ key."
50/50
With the rook taking over by mid season IF he is getting better on a weekly basis!!
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Sep 2, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t believe it should be such a clear cut thing. I mean “starting” should not be the question. How much playing time each should get should be the question.
I think it all depends on the situation. Aldon is a better pass rusher, but Haralson is probably less of a liability in passing situations. But you have to be careful with subbing in and out because teams will take notice.
Opposing teams thoughts: Oh, Aldon is in, they’re bringing the heat. We can audible and exploit that.
Anyway, I feel like Smith will be up to speed by midseason or so.
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Aldon Smith
In order to gain experience he needs to play
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
who is going to start?
brown,spencer, or brock?
spencer has not even really practiced this year
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I suspect
that Spencer is headed to IR. Just a hunch. I think Brown will be the other starter opposite Rogers.
Ninjames on Anthony Dixon's Tweeting:
"He’s going for the ‘T’ key, he should probably turn to it, but he stops and checks out the ‘R’ key first, then doubles back for a look at the ‘Y’ key, then by the time he decides to go back to ‘T’ to get some words typed, he’s brought down for a two-yard loss, ending up with the ‘G’ key."
IR takes him out for the season, he isn't that badly hurt.
could go on the PUP list
by ericalancanty on Sep 2, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe.
How do we know? He hasn’t been able to practice for basically all of camp. I’d say they’d cut him, but I don’t think you can cut a guy who’s injured.
Ninjames on Anthony Dixon's Tweeting:
"He’s going for the ‘T’ key, he should probably turn to it, but he stops and checks out the ‘R’ key first, then doubles back for a look at the ‘Y’ key, then by the time he decides to go back to ‘T’ to get some words typed, he’s brought down for a two-yard loss, ending up with the ‘G’ key."
It's a hamstring
They can linger and be very annoying, but it isn’t IR worthy at this point. They’d put him on the PUP first, where he’d be out til what? Week 8…
Plus ’he’s just working through something.’
If Tarell Brown is starting at CB, we have a total disaster on our hands!
In the four preseason games, except for Davis and maybe Nelms last night, Brown was the biggest disappointment of all CBs on the roster.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Sep 2, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Nelms was descent nothing to say 'wow' had a pass breakup in the endzone...
as for Davis though I agree he was bad
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Sep 2, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
well guess shows how bad Davis really was then..
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Sep 2, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm curious as to why Philip Davis, a UFA from Tulane with NO fanfare, is considered a
“disappointment”. You bring him in to see if there’s something there that hasn’t shown so far, give him a shot, it becomes apparent that he’s a “cut below”, so you waive him. There’s nothing in that scenario that defines “disappointment” (except maybe to him, but not to me).
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
Ha wow
I had class with this guy, didn’t even realize it was him who was playing, great guy but I’m in complete agreement with old jock, you can’t expect a udfa from a well below avg college team to be good. You just hope they surprise u.
by AHR on Sep 2, 2011 12:41 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Brock is definitely the guy.
No question. at least from where I am standing.
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Take out Ian Williams and Konrad Reuland and insert any two from the First Four Off list. Have to question whether that 4th ILB spot is going to be LB or special team teams ace?
castanzo, probably.
so special team ace to answer your question.
i hope Kristick is alright, but it looks like Willis, Bowman, Grant, Castanzo at ILB
I just dont think Norris makes the roster
if they could always use Reuland and convert him into an H-back/TE and have Miller as the primary FB. Reuland has pretty good hands & has shown the ability to be a good blocker.
I’d rather go into the season with either Tufuaku or Joseph then Norris. They would provide more in the terms of depth than Norris & could provide an impact on ST
Does anyone know who the first team return coverage unit is?
You gotta figure those guys factor heavily into not only the 53-man roster, but the 46-man gameday active roster as well.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
Why is Blake Costanzo so important?
is he that good to keep in the special teams? I think we are putting too much into his relationship to Seely.
IMO think CJ Spillman needs to go...
Understand he was beneficial to this team last year but, that was last year & this is this year. What more has he brought to the table thats different from last? I do believe between Tramine Brock, Phillip Adams,Chris Culliver, Madiew Williams & the like they can replace what he is doing on special teams. As for him playing backup safety he really disappointed me yesterday with his play being out of position on playing angles in certain running & passing downs yesterday.
His spot can free up space for a WR, RB, ILB or more importantly a DL that’s been playing well like Dobbs
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2 that come to mind that can replace him..
Will Tukuafu/Dominique Zeigler
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Sep 2, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree with pretty much most of this.
Add: Zeigler, Omon
Drop: Norris, Person
Alex Joseph, Tukuafu, RoJo, Person, Beeler, McBLT, Taylor to the practice squad.
I think Curtis Taylor still has ps eligibility.
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My biggest question is if we have been scouting other teams rosters.
I wonder if they will bring in any outside help from other teams cuts.
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Stock answer:
Well you know, you’re always looking to make the team better, considering options.
I'd be surprised if there wasn't a CB
That’s who I think the biggest threat to Adams’ spot is. An unknown free agent CB.
by hammystyle on Sep 2, 2011 11:41 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Do it.
Track him down at his house if you have to. The Phillip Adams fanclub will reimburse you for travel expenses. (Disclaimer: we have no funds)
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
carson palmer yes
kentwan balmer no
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 2, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Some thoughts on Fooch's final 53 and other roster related matters ...
1. Sorry, I just don’t see Norris making it this year … thank God. Why? Miller is learning and developing at a rapid pace … give him the reps (in games since camp was so short) now. He’s going to pass Norris by sometime this season anyway … let’s just get it over with.
2. With Crabs needing some time to come back from the injury, I think that we have to keep 6 WRs (including Crabs) to open the season. Cut Norris and add another receiver, with one of two choices: (1) Ziegler (if recovered enough) or Long, or (2) a WR from the waiver wire on Sunday … here are four potential cuts that could help us: (a) San Diego’s Seyi Ajorotutu (6-3, 211, Fresno State), (b) Oakland’s Denarius Moore (6-0, 195, Tennessee), © Atlanta’s Brandyn Harvey (6-4, 205, Villanova), or (d) Oakland’s Eddie McGee (6-4, 210, Illinois).
3. I think that Will Tukuafu makes the 53 before Ian Williams, who I think will be put on the PS.
4. Just for giggles, how about Scott Tolzien (if the Chargers cut him) instead of Josh McCown? Naw, the veteran makes more sense in our situation; but Tolzien sure looked good, didn’t he?
5. Positions where we should consider waiver wire cuts as an opportunity to upgrade over the backups we already have: WR (see 2. above), NT #2 (versus RJF), OLB #4 (versus Applewhite), CB (versus Brown).
by 49erFanSince1950 on Sep 2, 2011 11:33 AM PDT reply actions
Norris is going to make it.
Mark my words. Miller is a rookie, position changing, and a bit light in the fanny to boot. He’s looked good in preseason, but he still needs time before he’s ready for the big time.
I do think keeping 6 WR is a good idea, but I’m not convinced any of our guys are worth keeping. Let’s see who shakes loose.
Williams won’t make it to the PS, I don’t think, but he didn’t look especially good in preseason. He got pushed around a lot. Tuk did too, though, but Tuk is a favorite of Tomsula, so that may give him an edge.
Tolzien DID look great, but I don’t think he adds anything to the 49ers at this point; he’ll only muddy the waters and take practice reps away from Kaep. We need to pick a project QB and stick with him for a few years, instead of abandoning him at the first sign of struggle (see Nate Davis).
RJF is not getting cut. Applewhite showed some spark last night and I think he could stick around. CB is definitely an area with potential to improve, though.
Ninjames on Anthony Dixon's Tweeting:
"He’s going for the ‘T’ key, he should probably turn to it, but he stops and checks out the ‘R’ key first, then doubles back for a look at the ‘Y’ key, then by the time he decides to go back to ‘T’ to get some words typed, he’s brought down for a two-yard loss, ending up with the ‘G’ key."
stupid comments from a raider fan
BraveNeander :You really make yourself look like a idiot with a comment like that. Why not go back to your raider blog, we can manage wiyhout your stupid comments.
personal attacks
Let’s watch it. You can criticize comments all day, but ease up here.
by David Fucillo on Sep 2, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Oakland
is a hopeless cause. What would the league ever do w/out Al?
by Doni S on Sep 2, 2011 12:56 PM PDT via iPhone app reply actions
The rumor in Cincy is...
that Carson Palmer WILL report to camp and then the owner can say he won the standoff and can save face and then trade him to the Niners ! Even reporting late he should be starting by week 3.
One problem
Mike Brown doesn’t have any face left to save…
But there’s always plastic surgery…
by Doni S on Sep 2, 2011 4:27 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Dang; if only.
Maybe we could get Carson Palmer in a trade for Taylor Mays and fullback Norris. If we still had Mays. And if Norris was actually a fullback.
by OffensiveInterference on Sep 2, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
So you'll have him learn a new system in 3 weeks
and you expect he’ll be better than Alex?
Ninjames on Anthony Dixon's Tweeting:
"He’s going for the ‘T’ key, he should probably turn to it, but he stops and checks out the ‘R’ key first, then doubles back for a look at the ‘Y’ key, then by the time he decides to go back to ‘T’ to get some words typed, he’s brought down for a two-yard loss, ending up with the ‘G’ key."
Is this a depth chart as well?
Maybe I browsed through the comments too fast but I didn’t see anyone mention that Dixon is ahead of Hunter on this list. If this is just a roster then ok but it seems to look like a depth chart as well. Anyone think Dixon is still ahead of Hunter at this point?
I don’t.
Call me cautiously optimistic....because I know what the Niners do to people who have real optimism (see the last 8 years).
Demarcus Dobbs and Konrad Reuland need to be on the 53-man roster. They have every chance of turning into highly valuable players for the Niners. Konrad Reuland looks the the third down receiver who will keep drives going, and Demarcus Dobbs looks like he just might be awesome on the defensive line.
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