49ers vs. Eagles: Dealing With The Eagles Secondary
The 49ers travel to Philadelphia to face the Eagles this Sunday in a game that has all sorts of question marks for both teams. For the most part I think we can assume Michael Vick will play. It's not 100% guaranteed but as long as his swelling comes down he'll likely play. We'll know more this afternoon, tomorrow and Friday when the Eagles release their injury and practice participation reports.
In spite of all the question marks surrounding Michael Vick, whether he plays or not, the 49ers offense still has to deal with an Eagles secondary that continues to get tons of publicity in spite of some early struggles. The team's ability to sign Nnamdi Asomugha had the chatter at epic levels. Combining Nnamdi with Asante Samuel and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie meant defenses would be forced to figure out some kind of alternative if they were going to pass against the Eagles.
While the New York Giants didn't exactly decimate the Eagles secondary, they did leave a bit of a mark. I re-watched the Giants-Eagles game in part because I wanted to see how Eli Manning was able to do what he did. Manning finished 16/23 for 254 yards and four touchdowns and wide receiver Victor Cruz hauled in three passes for 110 yards.
Upon further review, I won't say the New York Giants got lucky in their passing attack, but it was at least an intriguing set of circumstances surrounding their success. Victor Cruz had a 74-yard touchdown reception, a 28-yard touchdown reception and a short eight yard reception. The first touchdown reception saw Cruz lined up in the slot and running a little out pattern while the outside receiver ran a slant in. The cornerback (I believe Nnamdi) covered the outer receiver coming in, and Cruz's defender never really stuck with him. Cruz caught the ball and at least two or three blown tackles later he was in the end zone.
Cruz's second touchdown saw him go down to the front edge of the end zone and haul in a pass in front of Nnamdi. Nnamdi played off Cruz because he had a safety coming over to help defend Cruz. However, Cruz made a phenomenal catch in front of Nnamdi that was hard to cover. It was just "one of those plays." Nnamdi played it right based on the defensive scheme, but Cruz also played off the defense just right and did what he had to do to haul in the pass.
Aside from those two big catches, much of Eli Manning's success the rest of the game was due to big performances from Ahmad Bradshaw and Brandon Jacobs. Not only did the Giants rushing attack have some success, but both running backs had big performances in the passing game. I only noticed one screen pass. The other six running back receptions were a mix of shovel passes, one of the backs split out wide, or just some basic dump-off passes.
The question then is how can the 49ers battle the Eagles secondary this Sunday. The running game will need to find some level of success, whether it be Frank Gore or Kendall Hunter. It looks like the backs can build some success going with off tackle and sweep runs. The Eagles use a front nine coverage that appears to leave some holes open, but the holes close up very quickly in part due to the athleticism of the front seven. It looks like the Eagles will attempt to lay some traps to convince the 49ers to try and run inside. Let's hope the 49ers don't fall for that.
The 49ers will also need to figure out which of the two backs works best coming out of the backfield. Hunter had a nice catch that he turned into a first down and Gore has been one of the team's more prominent receivers in recent years.
Against that secondary, the best path to success appears to be the short passing game the 49ers seem to be developing. The Giants found a great deal of success with either short passes to the running backs or quick little passes on tight end and wide receiver out patterns. The 49ers might struggle to match the Giants rushing attack, which would mean a greater reliance on the pass.
The Giants did not pass the ball a whole ton, but when they did, it often involved passes that took advantage of any space they could create with the Eagles secondary. Even when the wide receivers were getting involved on shorter passes, it usually involved comeback routes that bought a little space.
The Eagles had a lot of problems in particular when it came to tackling players. Victor Cruz broke his first big touchdown thanks to poor tackling, and the Eagles corners struggled with their tackling even after that. My thought on this is that the 49ers need to further mix in quick slants to wide receivers, particularly Michael Crabtree who can be pretty spectacular after the catch in the right situation.
However, Vernon Davis could be a key in this regard. If the 49ers can work the ball into his hands quickly, his size and speed could be the cure for this Eagles secondary. Nnamdi and Samuel might be able to keep up with him in terms of speed, but they simply cannot handle his kind of size. The 49ers need to take advantage of that mismatch.
The 49ers receivers likely won't find much success trying to go step for step with the Eagles cornerbacks. They might win a matchup here or there, but over the course of four quarters I think the Eagles could win that battle. However, this game provides a chance to use the 49ers receivers and tight end talents to force the Eagles into playing the 49ers kind of game.
Whether it be Vernon Davis and Michael Crabtree, or Frank Gore and Kendall Hunter catching passes out of the backfield, there are mismatches to be had. As we've found out through three weeks, it will come down to the offensive game-plan. I just hope Greg Roman and Jim Harbaugh recognize this and game-plan appropriately.
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by Leoniner on Sep 28, 2011 9:46 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Nice writeup!
Jason B has an astute piece over at Bleeding Green Nation that seems to say as much: that despite all the commentators’ commentating on the lack of run defense, it’s actually the Eagles’ pass defense (and passing game!) that seems to have gotten worse since last year, despite all the new coaches and players.
Looking forward to this game, since I’m kind of equal parts Niners and Eagles fan. I like the Niners’ chances in this game – plus, they’ve got nowhere to go but up!
Against that secondary, the best path to success appears to be the short passing game the 49ers seem to be developing
the short looks have not been a nuisance yet because the niners have kept games close. It’s also in part due to Harbaugh protecting AS. But the Niners aren’t scoring or racking up yards or averaging much yards per play (it seems) with this short game.
Obviously a lot depends on how the game flows (and how well the Niner D plays) in terms of the score, but we should learn a lot about the team based on their game plan, play calling, and how AS plays if they get behind early.
The penalties certainly don't help either.
I certainly don’t mind playing short and intermediate, but when your halfbacks are getting stuffed and everyone else is picking up 5 yard penalties, it’s very easy to lose momentum on any drive. You only have three plays to move forward ten yards regardless of how well you’ve done on the drive up to that point, and we just can’t afford to lose five before the play starts or come up empty rushing when the play is over if we’re only moving forward five yards at a time.
It was mostly fine in the first half against Dallas because the team was executing well on third and long or not getting themselves into third and long situations. But that didn’t last and we shouldn’t expect it to either. That O-line simply needs to get its act together because that will go a long way towards keeping drives alive. On top of that our receivers need to do a better job of getting to the sticks as well.
Run Vernon Run
please stop losing momentum and getting tackled from behind :( just beast like the beast you are.
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
i was thinking the same thing sunday; wondering why he is not running
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 28, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
He did leave the game for a little with an minor injury
maybe that slowed him down a little last game
by sanfranfanmdk on Sep 28, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
no
it’s his approach to the open field. Someone needs to tell him to just freaking run THAT WAY!!!
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
Problem Is
If they KNOW all Alex Smith is capable of is short and intermediate routes, it begs the Eagles to bring the safeties up, which defeats the purpose. I think the Niners had better try at least two long passes a game, at least one per half, even if they float safely out of bounds (Smith’s specialty). Otherwise, the short routes are covered and the running game suffers too.
agree
They either need to have the running game working, or they need to test them deep. Eli threw very few deep passes with the second Cruz touchdown being the only one that he connected on, but he did have a strong run game behind him.
by David Fucillo on Sep 28, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Philly can’t tackle…as their present record in the standings might indicate, so if VD gets the ball enough times, he’s probably liable to take it to the house. Any1 know if the marble statue still out?
by Doni S on Sep 28, 2011 10:58 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Yeah I agree
First play should be Ginn motioning to get a favorable matchup and just taking off.
i am hoping that alex smith lights it up all four quarters this year like last years fourth quarter, minus the fumble
i am hoping that alex desires revenge and redemption
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 28, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
this really is the problem with protecting AS
It’s obvious the game plans have been relying almost exclusively on short/intermediate routes, thus defenses will start to take that away. This is also why the running game suffers as well.
Did you notice Alex’s sideline pass to Vernon 40+ yards down the field on a dime against Cinci? I’m not an Alex lover but give some respect where it is due.
by SanFranciscoKnights on Sep 28, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Forget the Corners
Philly has great corners but their linebackers are young (and to listen to Philly fans, not terribly talented) and their safeties are suspect (and to listen to Philly fans, not terribly talented either). Their weakness is essentially in the middle (once you get past the line). So let Crabtree and Ginn draw their corners (and safeties) away from the middle and feed Vernon and Delaney all day long.
Yup
Send Ginn deep, throw to him once or twice to keep the defense honest, and use the two super-talented tight ends that the Eagles DON’T have an answer for. Notice how Jason Witten killed the Niners a couple weeks ago? Same theory.
This is a game where Crabtree gets a chance to show that he belongs where he was drafted; I’d like to see him do it, because I’d easily trade him for Maclin as of right now.
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by lottwasgangsta on Sep 28, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Posted This Yesterday, Pertinent to This Thread
The corners are good and will swallow the WR’s. Tight End play is key against these guys:
Big formations
We need to attack their defense my using our 2te 2 rb sets, and 2 te 2 wr sets and taking shots deep. Eventually we will find success with these sets by getting the mismatch on the field then going no huddle since we can run and squarely pass out of these formations.That would give the option to keep blockers in or send them out for the seam routes.for now no no huddle but we can do alot from those formations that I think the eagles will have trouble defending. Deep middle routes all day! Combined with slants on the outside and maybe see a bubble screen our two to crabs and that should be enough
by Texasninerfan on Sep 28, 2011 11:02 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
The cornerback (I believe Nnamdi) covered the outer receiver coming in
Yeah it was Nnamdi
The 2nd TD though was a little confusing just because of the Calvin Johnson play last year, Cruz lost possesion I believe before the ball hit the ground & Cruz even said after the game he wasn’t sure if it was a TD because of that play. I think it’s just further proof that the Lions got screwed last year in that game against the Bears, doesn’t matter though I guess
He didn't catch it in the endzone
He caught it at the 1 fell forward past the line and then lost possession.
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by manraj7 on Sep 28, 2011 11:42 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I say Harbaugh should sit Rachal, bring in Snyder to play RG
And run the ball down their throats early andf often. Philly hasn’t been very good against the run so far this season and I think Rachal has been the biggest problem with our o-line although collectively they haven’t been great by any stretch. That should bring those safeties up closer to the line and hopefully open up some lanes for VD and Walker to dominate the middle.
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by LondonNiner on Sep 28, 2011 12:47 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Let's face it
we might as well accept the fact that Smith is going to get picked off. every quarterback the eagles have faced has thrown a pick to these guys so smith would be lucky walking away from this game with one.
incorrect
In three games, Matt Ryan is the only QB to get picked off by the Eagles. Neither Sam Bradford nor Eli Manning were picked off.
by David Fucillo on Sep 28, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would you even throw it to the WRs
when their LBs cannot physically match up with our TEs
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
Why should we care about the eagles secondary?
49ers don’t pass
sad but so true
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 28, 2011 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Philly has struggles with TE's
If you go back and watch the Falcons-Eagles game in addition to the Giants game you’ll notice that they have a hard time with TE’s finding vacated space behind their linebackers. It’s almost as if the LB’s are having to help so much with the run that they overplay it and leave huge holes for pass catching TE’s. Same goes for their 3 marquee CB’s 99% of the time Nnamdi and Asanti are winning their individual matchup with DRC doing well but not as well but it looks like their is either confusions or holes in their scheme because receivers tend to get lost in empty zones where the pass becomes available. We need to exploit that.
interesting
The LB comment makes sense given that they have to move up to help with holes created by the wide nine.
by David Fucillo on Sep 28, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Lets just hope they continue to have the same problem
by Justin Heim on Sep 29, 2011 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions
We can pass against this team
Underneath against the linebackers or one on one matchups against the safeties and in the right situations their corners are not invulnerable.
When we play the matchups we want to force Nnamdi to follow guys over the middle and try to get speed on the outside against Samuel and use VD to force him to play that speed (Ginn/Williams) on an island by drawing away the safety support.
The big points for our passing game should be slants to Morgan, seams to Davis, and work Hunter and Miller out of the backfield into routes to eat up their linebackers. The name of the game will be YAC.
This is a team that can cover, but outside of their front 4 absolutely cannot tackle. Hell, even Gore might be able to break a tackle or two against this defense.

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