Michael Vick Injury Update: Sounding Close To Ready
by David Fucillo on Sep 28, 2011 11:09 AM PDT
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PrintPhiladelphia Eagles head coach Andy Reid conducted a conference call with 49ers beat writers (AUDIO) Wednesday morning and naturally there were a few comments about Michael Vick's injury status. Reid said that Vick had "improved quite a little bit." Reid did state that if Vick could not squeeze the ball completely he would not play. When Vick receives the snap, his left hand is on top, which means that is where much of the initial pressure hits. He still needs to squeeze a bit with his right hand (the bruised hand), but it's not quite as big an issue as if he had his right hand on top normally.
While the hand is not 100 percent at this point, Vick seems pretty convinced he'll be playing on Sunday. Playing against Vick instead of Mike Kafka or even Vince Young increases the degree of difficulty of this contest (duh), but will tell us quite a bit about the 49ers defense if Vick is not slowed by the hand injury. We know the 49ers can dominate against the run, but they've had plenty of ups and downs against the pass.
The 49ers faced a scrambling QB week one when they faced Tarvaris Jackson, but given Jackson's relatively limited passing skills, Vick is the first real test in that regard. The 49ers defensive line has been impressive to date but will need to show plenty of athleticism if they're going to track down an incredibly mobile Vick.
What I'm curious to see is whether Patrick Willis is kept in as a spy on Vick. With NaVorro Bowman taking command of his inside linebacker position, this could potentially leave Willis free to focus more on Vick. Would you leave Willis in more of that spy position given Vick's legs?
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Vick has not done a very good job of protecting the ball this year. He’s trying to force things. This week, against a swarming defense- and a week w/o practice- what’s to be afraid of? I think the defense looks at Vick as an opportunity.
I hope he does play. He’s the kind of guy a defense wants to face as a barometer of where they stand.
Agreed
I want Vick to start the game, and then watch our defense knock him out. He’s battered, and I don’t like him, and I want to see one of our guys put him out for some weeks.
Niners beat the Dream Team, book it.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Sep 28, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
while i dont wish serious injury on any player
regradless of how much i dislike them. injuires are part of the game though. i know players will go after the injuired player. so i wouldnt mind if vick got knocked out of the game.
Christopher
Would you leave Willis in more of that spy position given Vick’s legs?
Absolutely. If this is the case, the 49ers should watch plenty of tape on Young and Kafka because once Willis gets close enough to even touch Vick, he will be back on the sidelines.
"When I get sad, I stop being sad and be awesome instead. True story." - Barney Stinson
Would much rather put a ton of pressure on Vick via hella blitzes. Let Willis shadow McCoy because I think stopping him is key.
If we’re pressuring the crap out of Vick, he won’t have a lot of time to look for Jackson/Maclin downfield but will be looking to dump off to McCoy. I believe the key to beating Vick is to pressure him into making bad decisions.
by Sactown_Loyalty19 on Sep 28, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
As I've said a couple of times already
I’d prefer having an injured Vick play than a healthy Vince Young. Young is a downright winner and Vick hasn’t been great this year, so him being injured can only make it worse.
I honestly can’t see Vick scrambling too much if he does play injured, because he will definitely be scared for that hand.
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winner winner chicken dinner?
Winner winner YOUNGGG dinner!
by vI_KUSH_Iv on Sep 28, 2011 10:08 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yep that’s exactly what I would do let the pro bowler with amazing speed, sense of ball awareness, and strong hands roam the jungle to take down the lion.. I trust NaVarro big time to handle his own business.. Now that we have seen that he preform at a high level.. Fangio has got what he has been waiting for And that’s stability at the linebacker position on the weakside.. It’s time to bust some tricks with Willis..
by pigskin slapper on Sep 28, 2011 11:35 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Yup
We haven’t unleashed him yet this season. It’s about damn time.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Sep 28, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
It's PUN TIME!!!
Let’s get PaTRICKY!
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Or alternatively
Let’s hand the Eagles some NaSorrow Bowman
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Or maybe...
Hey Vick! Bow man!
(bow in awe of the 49ers of course)
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Vick
Will feel like he’s been hit by a ton of Brooks.
by madmatt on Sep 28, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
He'll
NaVorro want to play against us again.
by madmatt on Sep 28, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
5 step drop...
we’ll get him Justin time!!!
by Frisco_Kid on Sep 28, 2011 12:48 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
it got me to thinking......................
….what is a pat trick?
10+ combined tackles :: 1+ TO (either FR or INT) :: PD or FF (?)
somewhere you got to work in a big hit or hilight play…tackling someone from behind or a big stop for a loss. i dunno…..
i live this idea
We need to make an official Pat Trick. Let’s get cracking.
by mcwagner on Sep 28, 2011 6:36 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Hat trick: 3 goals
Gordie Howe hat trick: a goal, assist, and a fight
Pat trick: 10 tackles, a sack, and Brad Smith o-my-God knockout.
by mcwagner on Sep 28, 2011 6:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
i don't see PDub making too many of the big hits these days....
being a defensive leader, he’s got to keep his nose clean on some of these illiegal hits that the league is calling.
10+ tackles :: 1+ sack :: 1+ INT/FF/FR.
I love Willis
But every time I see that Smith hit, I feel bad for the dude.
Actually makes me a bit nauseous. Not the least because of the Mortal Kombat “Finish Him!” aspect of him swaying on his knees after being hit…
On the other hand, the Reggie Bush hit from MNF never gets old…
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Sep 30, 2011 3:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Good. I was hoping for Vick.
Ahmad Brooks, Justin Smith, PWilly, NaVarro Bowman – one of these guys is going to send Vick to the sideline for the game, if not for longer.
What should we place the over/under at for how many quarters Vick plays?
I'd go with 2 quarters
And I’d go under.
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I'm gonna go with three
2 sounds reasonable, but since it’s taken, I’m going to hypothesize that Vick will play it super safe for the first half, throw a lot of them away, and then take a chance early in the third, and get sandwiched between Brooks and Bowman…because he was trying to run away from Willis.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Sep 28, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
True.
He did get burned by a shifty Reggie Bush once last year for a TD IIRC. But then he put the hurt on him later in the game.
I'm pretty sure your order was correct
Because I think Bush left the game after Willis put the hurt on him.
Man, that hit was great. Enjoy.
Smith is like “I’m gonna hit him!” And Willis says “nope, I’m getting there first!”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhpaMxvvAwg
And if your day needs to still get a little better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ci8aKEEJ_o&feature=related
Note the extent to which Willis blows past AP prior to decking Mr. Indecisive.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Sep 28, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
LMAO, that will "learn'em" to burn Willis.
An ice cold beer, pizza and a 49ERS game is my idea of heaven. =)
yall butts are crazy
Willis fast enough to catch vick? Yea right. Willis is Nice don’t get me wrong but were thinking too highly of our players and team right now. We do it everytine coming off a win we need to remain humble as fans and see how it unfolds. Me and my cousin got to Watch the players practice last year and when they ran sprints vick was neck and neck with the Jackson. Willis wouldn’t stand q chance
by RBoogy29 on Sep 28, 2011 12:33 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Willis
The 49ers will have a tough time with the Eagles, particularly if Vick is playing. But while Willis certainly can’t catch Vick in a matter of straight line speed, I think Willis is athletic enough to hang with him when Vick is scrambling around before he gets that hole and the straight line speed then actually matters.
by David Fucillo on Sep 28, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Indeed
Agility matters more for the first ten yards than speed does, and there isn’t as big a difference between Vick and Willis on that.
Plus, I think Willis must be frustrated being the best player on a bad team, and not getting a lot of national recognition. While he seems like a team-first guy, I’m sure he’d LOVE to be the dude on the ESPN highlight loop knocking Vick out of the game/part of the season.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Sep 28, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
i kind of agree willis is athletic enough
Although I am curious to how much of a factor fatigue played into slaton from the texans leaving Willis stone footed during a open field tackle last year. If that was Willis being tired then Yea maybe he have a chance but if not then he will most definitely have his work cut out for him with vick and definitely mccoy
by RBoogy29 on Sep 28, 2011 2:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Willis...
P-Willy runs a 4.37 40 yard dash, Mike Vick runs a 4.28…
ill take a free charging Willis over a Vick who is trying to scan the field and make moves while running!!!!
by Frisco_Kid on Sep 28, 2011 12:55 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
u have on field speed and u have 40 yard dash speed
We are trained to run good 40s besides 4.28 to a 4.37 (which Willis wasn’t officially clocked at) is like a 4.4 to a 4.5 to put in better perspective Jeremy maclin in a foot race with brandon Jacobs. Willis ran a official 4.5 and vick reportedly ran a 4.26 but you can clearly see the difference when they run. Also its harder to pursue than to evade that’s Why its so critical to take good angles.
by RBoogy29 on Sep 28, 2011 1:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL
First you point out that Willis’ time wasn’t official (which it was at his pro day), then you go on to use a 40 time that Vick “reportedly ran”? Hypocrisy much? BTW, I don’t think anyone is trying to say he is as fast as Vick, just that he is fast enough to contain him, and he’s our best bet to do so if they use him as a spy.
Also, if anyone in the league takes good angles, it’s Willis.
Def this
Also, it’s not like there aren’t 10 other guys out there to help PWilly do his job, and clog up Vick’s running lanes. We get a few good hits in, maybe we can knock Vick OUT!
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Sep 28, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Running quarterback
Get #8 back into Santa Clara to take some snaps against the defense. Then again, not sure about the thought of Steve getting smashed by Pat.
oh, i think Patrick can catch an
already injury-riddled Vick, who may or may not still be suffering from the lingering effects of a concussion sustained back in week 2. And if Romo was any indication of what our defense can do to a healthy QB, it’ll be that much worse for Vick this coming Sunday
I'm actually glad vick will play
If the niners are able to beat vick and the eagles maybe some national media might get sprinkled over us. But if w beat a vickless eagles team it will just be the 49ers escaping with an ready win. But if vick plays and the eagles lose they’ll just say it was because he wasn’t 100% so no matter what we do this weekend the media won’t give us any respect.
by MNY49 on Sep 28, 2011 1:20 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I'm actually glad vick will play
If the niners are able to beat vick and the eagles maybe some national media might get sprinkled over us. But if w beat a vickless eagles team it will just be the 49ers escaping with an easy win. But if vick plays and the eagles lose they’ll just say it was because he wasn’t 100% so no matter what we do this weekend the media won’t give us any respect.
by MNY49 on Sep 28, 2011 1:20 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Wouldn't be funny if Alex wore a Visor..
on his helmet like Vick… They should beef up Alex’s padding also so he is more protected and he looks buff…I think some times Alex doesn’t get a lot of credit because he kind of looks goofy out there with his big ass floppy helmet and his lanky body.. The Visor thing would be hilarious.. I would die to see the reaction on Vicks face I Alex came out on the field like that.. Hahaah hey who knows Alex might go through his progressions better with no glare in his eyes Lol..
by pigskin slapper on Sep 28, 2011 1:29 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
What is the over/under
on fumbled snaps if Vick plays?
I think the best strategy is to have Willis shadow McCoy everywhere and to blitz the crap out of Vick.
It happened last year and this year, the best way to beat Vick is to get pressure on him. That’s when he’s at his weakest. I would take the chance of him beating us with his feet versus him getting time to air it out to Jackson/Maclin or McCoy on the ground. He isn’t 100% physically and I think we need to expose that every chance we get. Let him run it himself and let him get hit by our defenders.
by Sactown_Loyalty19 on Sep 28, 2011 2:56 PM PDT reply actions
If vick plays
He will be hit and pressured alot. Its what we have been doing with our front seven. Wr are not getting sacks but we make up for it with int’s. Mostly because our front seven pressures effectivly.
by Zintzun22niner on Sep 28, 2011 10:38 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
oh our D is hard nosed
they will hit vick even if they dont knock him out the game. he will still feel the pain.
An ice cold beer, pizza and a 49ERS game is my idea of heaven. =)
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