49ers vs. Eagles: Dealing With The Playmakers
San Francisco 49ers defensive coordinator Vic Fangio chatted with the media before practice today and discussed some injury news and how he plans on dealing with the Eagles big play offense. Although Jeremy Maclin remains questionable for Sunday's game, that still leaves Desean Jackson and LeSean McCoy. I'd say that's a tough pair of players to contend with no matter what the circumstances. Add in Michael Vick and it's going to be an interesting set of circumstances for the 49ers defense.
The 49ers have generally moved their corners around to different locations and as far as I can tell, they've traded off assignments throughout games rather than focusing on specific players. If that holds true on Sunday, Desean Jackson might get Carlos Rogers one play and then Tarell Brown for the next four plays, or vice versa. Given how Rogers has performed this season I'd prefer he get the primary coverage of Jackson, but Brown stepped up last week with some excellent coverage at times on A.J. Green.
One cornerback who likely won't see as much playing time is Tramaine Brock. He has a cast on his hand and is dealing with either a break or a deep bruise. This has allowed the 49ers to work Shawntae Spencer back into the lineup with a bit more regularity. Brock played in spite of the cast so I'd imagine he'll be active again this Sunday, but a bit limited.
Defensive Coordinator Vic Fangio
Press Conference - September 29, 2011
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Where do you start when you start looking at the threats that the Eagles present to you?
"You can start anywhere you want really. The thing that jumps off at you is the speed of their skilled people. Starting with their wide receivers, [WR Jeremy] Maclin and [WR DeSean] Jackson are about as fast a tandem you'll ever play against. Both of them are extremely fast. So obviously you start there, then obviously the speed and elusiveness of [QB Michael] Vick and his strong arm and his ability to get it to these guys deep down the field. This team is a big play team. They take their shots at the big play and that jumps off the screen. Then last but not least is the running back who, really, I think makes it all go for this team. He's very quick, very elusive. He's got an unusual running style. He's kind of like Barry Sanders in a way that a run can be started outside left that can end up outside right or vice versa. He's very elusive. He jump cuts, he'll give ground, he's always looking to make the big play in the running game. He is what makes those guys go. He's kind of like the new Brian Westbrook for them when he was the guy for them back in their hay-day, four or five years ago."
This team has lost four in a row to the Eagles. It seems that speed that you were talking about has really hurt the 49ers. Where is your own team's speed on defense? Do you think that's improved over the year?
"I really don't know the answer to that question, again from not studying the guys much in the past. We do have some new secondary guys that haven't been here in the past which hopefully has improved that speed. We've got good speed at inside linebacker with both [LB] Patrick [Willis] and [LB] NaVorro [Bowman] and [LB] Ahmad [Brooks] outside brings good speed. Probably our speed is a little bit better than it's been in the past, but this speed that we're seeing this week is probably the fastest offense we'll see from a speed standpoint. Not just one guy, but several guys. It's topped off with the speed of Vick when he starts running."
It seems like you've described kind of a high-risk, high-reward offense. Defensively, do you change what you guys do because of that?
"I don't think they're a high-risk, high-reward offense. They just like to throw the ball downfield more so than other teams. It's not like he's throwing a bunch of picks or anything like that. He's only been sacked four times in three games, so it's not like it's that type of offense. It's just that they have the speed and the quarterback arm strength to throw the ball downfield and they use it, which is good coaching on their part. So, I don't look at it as a high-risk, high-reward deal for them."
When you face a quarterback like Vick in the past, will you have a linebacker spy on him? Is that something you would possibly do on Sunday?
"As always, when you play a guy that can run around, that is an option. Sometimes it's a good mixture, some teams do it a lot, some teams don't do it at all. To me, it's an option. Whether we'll use it or not, we'll see how the game goes. Spying him is one thing; it's hard for that guy who you've got spying him to get him down. He's a hard guy to tackle in the open field. The guy's made some amazing plays. Guy's have had him dead to rights with sacks and he gets out of them. Spying him may not be the miracle worker you think it is, but it is an option."
CB Shawntae Spencer saw a lot of play time. Was that brought on by CB Tramaine Brock's injury or was that a veteran that's ready to play now and you got him on the field?
"Both. He was ready to go; the injury opened it up for him. We had planned on playing him last week regardless of the injury and will continue to play him."
S Donte Whitner seemed to be moving around okay yesterday. Are you expecting he'll be good enough to go on Sunday?
"I don't know the answer to that. He's highly questionable right now. He started to do some things in practice, but did not finish at all. I don't know his status for the game right now. I don't know that anybody does."
Do you have a veteran who's ready to step in for him?
"Yeah, [S] Madieu [Williams] came in last week and played well for him. The one thing we've got, we've got five safeties that we dress so there are guys back there that have to come step in and play for him."
I don't know how intimately involved you were with the decision to elevate NaVorro to a starting role after one year, letting [LB] Takeo [Spikes] get away. Is there anything that you've seen from him that has really surprised you as far as seeing the actual product on the field?
"Not really. There really was no decision to make, getting back to the first part of your question, when Spikes was no longer here, he was the guy. There wasn't much of a decision there. He's played well, he can run well, he's a good athlete, we like his athletic ability. He still needs to improve in some areas. He's basically, like you say, a first year starter, so almost a rookie per say as a defensive player. But he's played well, but he can play better and we expect him to play better moving forward. He's been active for us. He's benefitting from playing behind our defensive linemen who do a good job of holding the point there for him and not letting people get up on him. He's played well the first three weeks."
Does he also benefit from offense's keying in on Patrick?
"No."
Do they target him now?
"No."
Going into the season, you were talking about having Patrick blitz more and pressure more. Has he done much of that the first three weeks?
"He has. I'd say in the one game, he did it more than the first game. He did it more in the second game than the first game and last week he did it a couple times. He has. We kind of mix it up between him and NaVorro."
With Brock, is that a four to six type of thing where he has his cast on?
"Well, he can play but he will have some limitations because of his injury to his hand. Playing corner in this league is hard enough full speed, to put a cast on your hand makes it even a little more hard. He'll play and he was able to play a little bit last week and he'll be available."
Is it broken? A broken hand?
"I'm not sure if it's a break or a bad bruise or whatever but I do think he might have a little break in there."
He had an interception with that, right?
"Not last week. The week before. He hurt it during the game, I don't remember when he hurt it but he wasn't wearing a cast I don't believe or something at the time."
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Tall order to deal with these guys.
We have the talent and the coaching to do it. Go 9ers.
by Gerald Tarrant on Sep 29, 2011 2:06 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Wow. Jerry Rice thinks Vick is gna torch us!
Loved u as a receiver but as an analyst? Hmmmmnnnnn?
by Gerald Tarrant on Sep 29, 2011 2:08 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
a banged-up Vick?
sure, LeSean McCoy and D-Jack and Maclin, but Vick in this state?
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by the new Bradfather on Sep 29, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone who underestimates Michael Vick is going to get their lunch money stolen.
Their girlfriend knocked up, their dog ran over, and wake up with a craving for not getting punked by the Eagles last Sunday.
I can see why the Eagles fans want to come over and pretend like Micheal Vick is all hurt and harmless. They would say “yea just put a couple helmets on him” and take the free 15 yards per flag thrown. They’d say “Vick is banged up, he can’t beat you” and then laugh their @$$es off everytime he takes off running for 25+ yards.
It’s not like his throwing hand is injured. It’s not like his legs are injured.
“Vick in this state?” What state is that? Pennsylvania? Your home state? As in home game? Yea, I’m not fooled by the crafty Eagles fans trying to act like it’s going to be an easy win for us.
I’m not even surprised by it. Don’t be fooled by these knuckheads, they’re trying to taunt us.
A pie can be divided into many pieces. For MOST people the goal is to get as many pieces of that pie as possible. It is my goal to eat the WHOLE pie.
I've been over to the Bleeding Green at question time
They are all trying to act like the Eagles are weak and we are going to win so easy…
A pie can be divided into many pieces. For MOST people the goal is to get as many pieces of that pie as possible. It is my goal to eat the WHOLE pie.
Maybe he's an Eagles fan in a silly orange and blue disguise...
Diabolical
A pie can be divided into many pieces. For MOST people the goal is to get as many pieces of that pie as possible. It is my goal to eat the WHOLE pie.
I love the Broncos more than any team
I don’t mind Philadelphia, I’ll leave it at that
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by the new Bradfather on Sep 29, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
this year is different than last year my friend. thanks for the lunch money fat willie.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 30, 2011 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Jerry Rice
Has been putting niner players on the spot, also mentioned something about crabtree needs to start showing up.
by Zintzun22niner on Sep 29, 2011 4:16 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Just twists a small knife to the heart
To hear Jerry speak like that. Even though he may or may not be correct, he will always be more than a fan or analyst to some of us. Guess im just not used to it yet. The years of Steve Young digging in havent softened the blow like they should have.
by Gerald Tarrant on Sep 29, 2011 4:52 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
hey, at least the 49ers are getting national coverage
which is more than we can say for recent years
Crab
and how is Rice saying that Crabtree has to step up not 100% accurate???
What has Crabtree actually done besides not particaipate in any team activities outside of regualr season practice? He does need to step it up this season, BIG TIME
by What you talking bout Willis on Sep 30, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
You 49ers look pretty sharp
and you’re leading the NFC West, I think this Eagles game is a toss-up as good as they are on paper, San Francisco always plays them well, such as the Sunday nighter last year. Perhaps I should DVR this one off of NFL Sunday Ticket, I apologize for undervaluing the 49ers in my prediction, may the best team win Sunday and it just may be the scarlet and gold team with SF on their helmets
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by the new Bradfather on Sep 29, 2011 2:21 PM PDT reply actions
Thanks
I just hope it’s a competitive game and that everyone comes out of it healthy. I’ve had this week penciled in as a loss since the pre-season. The fact that it’s even marginally considered as a competitive matchup is a great compliment to Harbaugh’s staff and the team, IMO.
So coming from that angle, I’d be pleased if the Niners just come out playing well, make it a good game and don’t get hurt. If they win, so be it. But I’m not counting on them to.
Here’s to a good game!
that's how I feel
about the Broncos-Packers game, I know we are fully capable of going into GB and winning but we have to reduce turnovers and make some big plays ourselves.
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by the new Bradfather on Sep 29, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I like this post from JasonB at Bleeding Green Nation
20) San Francisco 49ers – The Niners are actually 2-1 and honestly I don’t know how. This really does not look like a good team. (LW 21)
This to me is hilarious because I feel the same way. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not complaining, but really – how are we 2-1? The only game we looked like a decent team, we lost at the end.
A pie can be divided into many pieces. For MOST people the goal is to get as many pieces of that pie as possible. It is my goal to eat the WHOLE pie.
It sort of seems
like Harbaugh and Company are doing little as necessary to win these games. By that I mean, they are trying to win, but want to show as little as possible to keep as many surprises for the remaining of the season…..at least I hope this is the case lol
by sanfranfanmdk on Sep 29, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Harbaugh has a brilliant offensive mind
I think he needs some more weapons
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by the new Bradfather on Sep 29, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
he needs more healthy weapons
if edwards, crabtree, davis and gore are all healthy and on the field at the same time I think our offense will look completely different
that too but I think it starts w/ the O Line
he’s trying desperately to get our guys up to speed in the run game cuz he knows we’ll need to be competent in that area come Nov and Dec.
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Sep 29, 2011 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Some of the pressure is on him and the WRs
no matter how good the OL is its impossible to block 6 people with 5 blockers
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
true but
i think if the O Line plays better, the offense will be that much more efficient. I mean Alex is already doing pretty well against all the extra pressure he’s getting w/o a significant run threat. I don’t think the issue is blocking an uncounted for blitzer…thats when Alex has done well gettin rid of the ball…we have trouble blocking 4 or 5 guys w/ our 5 guys (losing one on one battles)
I guess there’d be more pressure cuz there’s no excuse for not executing.
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Sep 29, 2011 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
That's exactly what I would do...
I’d try to pretend I have the worst offense in the league, and then when they least expect it, BAM I’d run a halfback dive – right up the middle. Then when that doesn’t work, I’D DO IT AGAIN.
Then when that play failed miserably I’d tell all my oiffensive linemen to block everyone except the weakside linebacker and see if Alex can connect on a checkdown 5 yards short of the marker.
I think there’s alot missing from the offense because of the short offseason, but I’m pretty sure if Harbaugh had plays he thought would win games, he’d pull them out and try them.
The thing that’s getting in our way is we can’t even properly execute the plays he’s been sending out so far. How are we going to run the more complicated plays he’s known for?
A pie can be divided into many pieces. For MOST people the goal is to get as many pieces of that pie as possible. It is my goal to eat the WHOLE pie.
I no longer think he is intentionally hiding anything.
He is simply adapting to problems (injuries, poor o-line play, inconsistent execution) as best he can and is managing to keep the games close and, so far, win the majority.
I think we are all seeing flashes of what he wants to do. At this point, I think the single biggest gains will be seen by improvements in the offensive line. Once that starts to come together a lot more pieces should fall into place nicely.
by ColoradoNiner on Sep 29, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he's just taking his time to impliment the offense he wants
Davis said they’d been working on his big plays unleashed against the bengals for 3-4 weeks. I assume (another way of saying hope) that there are more plays coming down the pipeline that they have been working on for 3-4 weeks.
Exactly, how are we 2-1. We should be 3-0
We should have won that Dallas game. Then how confused would you be by the 9ers record.
top 5 Defense? Excellent Special teams Played the Seahawks and Bengals
Went to OT against the Cowboys….
What is so confusing?
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
eagles are lucky they played the rams or they would be 0-3. again thanks for the lunch money.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 30, 2011 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions
So which 9er is going to mirror & be the Vick spy...
keep an eye on his every move, so Vick does not tear us up running.
Maybe Willis or Navarro ?
alex boone
we’re sending him the day before to jump on vick’s car and crush him inside
don't trust boone
he will leak out the info dude is out to get us man.
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When Jim Harbaugh says "more is more" I think he is trying to say Moore is more.
there's not a player in the league that can spy Vick
I can’t think of one player thats EVER played the game that I’d like one on one in the open field w/ Vick
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Sep 29, 2011 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
not sure bout that
he’ll need help…scheme wise
but he’d probably have the best chance
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Sep 29, 2011 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
lets just wait and see
it will be no cake walk but the 9ERS can win this game.
An ice cold beer, pizza and a 49ERS game is my idea of heaven. =)
when was the last time you did a cake walk?
it’s hard to win a cake
They won the last 4
I’m betting its not going to be there year. Giants had a losing streak going into there game with back ups and still managed to pull out a victory convincingly I’m guessing we don’t blow them out but i picture a hard fought game for the victory.
by Zintzun22niner on Sep 29, 2011 4:22 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Good lord!
This thread smells of wholesale panic.
by Gerald Tarrant on Sep 29, 2011 4:46 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Well played
You know you suck if Snyder is the answer. Smh
by Gerald Tarrant on Sep 29, 2011 7:12 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
We do seem to play the Eagles tough
we’ll see soon enough…if we can run the ball effectively and limit the “bonehead” plays, I like our chances.
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
pretty sure
Alex won’t just drop the ball again. He studied film to find out not to do that any more.
by mcwagner on Sep 29, 2011 9:41 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
JH: “Yeah umm, Alex…its probably not a good thing to just let the ball drop outta ya hands…like ever. I mean generally speaking n all”
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Sep 29, 2011 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Blitz him
I think teams have been effective with the corner blitz. why waste a defender spying vick when we can send pressure instead. most of our picks came off qb pressures and tipped passes why stop doing whats working.
by Zintzun22niner on Sep 29, 2011 8:38 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Willis/ Bowman
Bowman is drawing comparisons to Willis… if he even winds up being 3/4ths as good, then teams are going to have a lot of trouble in the middle of the field both passing and running.
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I agree
force him to run…take more hits, maybe a fumble or two.
I say blitz him and try to jam the WRs..generally speaking
Give tha guy a break...I remember losing most of our games because of mistakes by players that did not play the quarterback position.
I'm sure Norv Turner is a good judge of a good QB...even he said the guy can be good w/ quality people around him.
by NewAgecorner1 on Sep 29, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
You are still allowed to jam the WRs
I thought with as much cushion as we seem to give the WRs that the league had outlaw’d that kind of play. So this isn’t touch football?
at least Nate Clements won’t be burned by the long ball this time. It may be someone else, but not Nate Clements. I’m not concerned about the defense, it’s our O-line that keeps me up on Saturday nights.
was nate clements really burned deep?
burned means that he was too slow and his man would run by him. that was not the case.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 30, 2011 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions
He was torched all day in the Eagles game last year
by What you talking bout Willis on Sep 30, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
watch the tape
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 30, 2011 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions

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