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Harbaugh Going Inception on the NFL

Our offseason was absolutely nuts.  If you were judging by the pre-season, you'd have good reason to think Harbaugh is in way over his head. You know, like needing to call the more experienced coach before the game to come to a gentleman's agreement.  Or, you know, throwing passes with unsigned Alex Smith..."What? That's illegal?  Whoops, sorry, I'm new at this, I won't do it again."  (Sure, like Harbaugh doesn't have the entire rulebook memorized, complete with page numbers and which sentences have stains on them.)

Then of course you had those darn pesky Saints bringing the house and teams sacking our QBs like crazy.  Oh yeah, and speaking of QBs, what about Alex Smith as our starter?  Or Harbaugh's faith in Kapernick as the backup?  Or Harbaugh's cutting of McCown and grabbing another rookie project QB as the No. 3?


What about cutting Clements, losing Baas, Lawson and Franklin, and trading TaylorMaysGump for a sack of magic beans?  What about Gore holding out and injuries and lions and tigers and bears (oh my!)?

These kinds of things might lead some people to wonder; "What the heck is Harbaugh doing?"  Well let me explain it to you plain and simple.  A lot of coaches in the NFL do things a certain way.  New coaches come in, see those experienced guys doing things that way and think "Hey, they probably know more than I do, so I'll do those things too!"  Here's what you have to know: Harbaugh doesn't give a snow-cone machine in space what other coaches do.  He's got his own way of doing things, he's confident in that, and he couldn't care less what anybody says about it.  Now this might come across as a bad thing.  However, before you start freaking out, let me explain the genius behind Ol Man Harbaugh.

Star-divide

 

Getting Creamed in the Pre-Season

You watch games like the ones against the Saints and the Texans and you gotta wonder what Harbaugh is doing.  You can make some excuses for him, like "he doesn't have the whole playbook installed yet".  But trust me, Greg Roman could have called up some quick throws to beat the blitz.  Vic Fangio could have called up some blitzes of his own to show those mean old veteran coaches that Harbaugh can play tough too.  So why didn't Harbaugh go this route?  Simply put, he couldn't care less about pre-season games.  He's big enough that he can refrain from retaliating while he stands there and watches his guys get the bejeezus kicked out of them. 

Listen to me: his plan all along was to keep things simple, not show his hand, and not get his guys hurt.  If you listen to interviews with players, you'll hear most of the veterans expressing how little they care about pre-season games. Harbaugh is just the same way.  He sees what he needs to see in practice and gamefilm from last season. 

This might seems crazy, but it makes sense if you think about it.  After all, if you're running a plain, vanilla scheme in the pre-season in a pre-scripted game (cough, Sean Payton), you can't really judge your players.  You can judge whether they're ballers or not, but that's about it.  If you pit guys one on one and judge off of that there would be a lot of current players who would never have gotten jobs.  Football might seem to be a gladiator sport, but it's really more like a strategy board game.  As a coach, you know the strengths and weaknesses of your pieces and you put those pieces into the best position to succeed.  That's what game-planning and play-calling are all about.  That's what hardcounts, audibles, and fakes are all about.  When big plays happen in the NFL, it's usually not because somebody messed up.  That might appear to be the reason on the surface of course.  But if you look at it, you'll usually find that one team managed to fool the other team or get them into some kind of mismatch.  For example, if you manage to force Aldon Smith to cover Vernon Davis, Davis is going to win that match-up 99% of the time.  You can look at your screen and yell at Aldon Smith all you want, but the blame really goes on the shoulders of the coaching staff for allowing that match-up to happen in the first place. 

So what am I trying to say here?  I'm saying that Harbaugh somehow knows what his players can give him.  He knows their strengths and weaknesses.  He also knows exactly what kind of scheme he's going to be running.  He signed players, cut players, and gave 53 players roster spots based on his exact offensive and defensive scheme.  The offense and defense you will see in the regular season will look NOTHING like what you saw in preseason.  For example, you heard about how Crabtree is going to be a key piece of the offense and how his skills fit this offense really well?  Here's the reason why that is: Harbaugh doesn't design a scheme and then plug players into it.  He designs his scheme with his players in mind. Routes involving Crabtree have probably been designed specifically for Crabtree.  That's the way Harbaugh rolls.  That's how he gets success out of sub-par players.  That's why his QBs look so good.  He isn't so much a QBs genius as he is a genius at designing things specifically for his players in the way they think and play best.  Heck, he's probably got separate Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick playbooks!  They might contain exactly the same plays, but they would be arranged differently.  The Alex Smith plan would rely on different plays than Kaepernick's. Of course, this isn't just him.  His assistants were heavily involved of course.  But this way of doing things is signature Harbaugh.  This way has also been proven to be successful.  This is the way the Patriots roll and it's the answer to why they have such good drafts.  Most teams don't work this way, but Harbaugh isn't most teams.

Holding Back


We know Harbaugh has been holding back.  That much is obvious.  The players have even said as much.  This isn't just plays either. Harbaugh holds back medical details and announcements about starters so that the other team can't focus in on specific weaknesses.  They have to prepare as if every one of our guys will be healthy because they just don't know for sure.  This is smart on Harbaugh's part.

Keep Them Off-Balance


Here's something else you probably didn't think of.  Greg Roman's offense and Vic Fangio's defense will actually be different EVERY SINGLE WEEK!  I know this is a strange concept in 49erland, so I will briefly explain it.  Greg Roman and Vic Fangio will work with Jim Harbaugh to come up with battle-plans that would make Napoleon look sick.  I don't want to get too excited about the combination of a "Cold-blooded, stone-cold, serial killer" working with a nutcase mentored by a former CIA agent.  But if you go back and look at Stanford's games last season you'll notice that they were won not so much with superior talent or athleticism, but with superior game-planning and execution.  These guys are masters at exposing other teams' weaknesses and hiding their own.  Just wait and see.  If you think I'm nuts, wait until you see Tavaris Jackson get planted on his backside over and over again and Freaky Jean going all PBJ on the sidelines.


Ability to Adapt


I know, I know, adaptation is a strange concept too.  But Harbaugh is good at this.  He can win with a team using a featured back like Toby Gerhart and he can he win with a team using a multi-pronged rushing attack like they used last year with Stefan Tayler, Tyler Gaffney, etc.  If Alex Smith gets hurt or if Colin Kaepernick comes into the game for a different reason, expect to see something totally different out of the offense.  Roman won't keep calling "The Alex Plays".  Instead you'll see plays better suited to CK7.  Heck, don't be surprised to see elements of the Pistol Offense.  It goes back to what I was saying earlier.  Harbaugh doesn't care what other people do, he doesn't care what other people say.  He's going to do what he has to do to put his guys in a position to succeed and win games.  If that requires letting the other team beat up his team in pre-season, he's going to do it; no matter how much people scream about it.  He knows what he's doing (or thinks he does at least) and he's going to take care of business his way.

Conclusions

We're going to have a lot better season than most people realize.  A 10-6, 11-5 season is not out of the question.  If our guys execute, we will win games.  It's as simple as that.  We'll do it too.  This is why Harbaugh built a team of players with a certain type of mentality.  These aren't guys that are going to give up.  These players are to give their all from start to finish.  If somebody doesn't execute, we have some quality depth to come in and shore things up.  I could be totally wrong on that aspect, but that's my gut feeling.  Like I said, IF our guys execute, we will win games. 

Why would I make such a ludicrous prediction? 

  • Here's the thing: we've been losing so long, we've forgotten what good coaching looks like.  We've forgotten what good coaching can do and how to trust good coaches.
  • Not to beat a dead horse, but we have (arguably) upgraded every position on this football team from what we had last year, even if it's as simple a thing as having better depth and competition.  By that reasoning alone, we should win more games than last year. I mean, Edwards as the number 1 instead of Crabtree and Crabs at number 2?  Sick!  Kendall Hunter in the backfield sometimes instead of Dixon?  Sick!  A real pass-rushing OLB and two DE's who can get consistent pressure as well?  Sick!  Having other options than Goldson at safety?  Having Whitner as our SS and mebbe a real ballhawk as FS?  SICK!  PWilly having a mini-PWilly next to him and both of them rushing the passer more this year?  Sick!  Carlos Rogers as our number 1 corner instead of Clements and a bunch of young corners who are physical, young, and FAST!?!?  (You know, instead of a bunch of old guys who've lost a step.)  SICK!  I'd say this is definitely a good reason to expect us to win more games this year.
  • Last year we had to face Matt Hasselbeck.  This year we have to face Tavaris Jackson.  I may be dead wrong, but Jackson just doesn't scare me as much.  I'd say he's a definite downgrade from Hasselbeck. The Cardinals have also lost a bunch of key players.  For reasons of roster turnover, I think we should win more games this year.
  • We have better coaching than last year.  You should all remember the pain of not getting plays in on time, bad challenges, bad play-calling, bad, no, HORRIBLE overall coaching.  Let's face it, our coaching was an embarrassment last year.  The Old Guy in the Hat couldn't call plays for a pop-Warner team.  Our head coach couldn't identify, let alone solve, problems even if they had neon signs on them.  Our coaching staff is so much better this year, we should win more games just based on that. 
  • Finally, our execution last year was abysmal.  Some guys overachieved, but overall we played like a sloppy, disorganized mob.  We lost one game due to Clements fumbling an interception return.  We lost another game due to a pair of touchdowns Clements gave up biting on play-fakes with no safety support behind him.  These kinds of mistakes haunted us last year.  We fought hard and stuck with some of the best teams in the league despite the horrible play-calling, not getting plays in on time, and the bad game-planning.  But we lost those close games because of stupid brain farts by experienced veterans.  Again, we played like a sloppy, disorganized mob.  It was every man for himself out there.  By virtue of better execution from the coaching staff and having players working as a unified body, we should win more games this year.


ARE YOU READY FOR SOME REAL 49ER FOOTBALL?  ARE YOU READY TO WATCH HARBAUGH GO ALL INCEPTION ON OUR OPPONENTS?  ARE YOU READY TO CHUG SOME KOOL-AID?  ARE YOU READY TO WATCH A NASTY, SWARMING DEFENSE AND AN EXCITING, DYNAMIC, INNOVATIVE OFFENSE?

I AM!!!  LET'S GET THIS SEASON STARTED!

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.

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Way too much time and detail to not get a response.....

Nice write up. I see where you are coming from and agree. Yes, we won only 6 games last year. I say we because Bowman is riding the pine and I am in the trenches along side Willis, all thanks to Madden 12. We did lose some close games by some really bad decisions. Having a real game plan and having more than 3 offensive plays will really help to keep the D guessing.

Our D is really good and if the O-line gets it together, we will be very competitive against any team in the NFL.

by ericalancanty on Sep 7, 2011 9:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Absolutely Brilliant..Have a rec good sir. great points!

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by Widowwolf on Sep 7, 2011 10:13 AM PDT reply actions  

Great write up

Rec’d

"When I get sad, I stop being sad and be awesome instead. True story." - Barney Stinson

by Haggardninja on Sep 7, 2011 11:36 AM PDT reply actions  

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Think that’s the first time I’ve said that and not been sarcastic.

Rec’d.

by Ougadas on Sep 7, 2011 12:31 PM PDT reply actions  

single tear rolling down cheek

Call me cautiously optimistic....because I know what the Niners do to people who have real optimism (see the last 8 years).

by crumpedup15 on Sep 7, 2011 12:44 PM PDT reply actions  

I wanted to avoid too much detail

About things most fans already knew. But since you asked:

2010

Alex Smith
Troy Smith
David Carr

2011

Alex Smith
Colin Kaepernick
Scott Tolzien

I’d say this position is about equal. I think the coaching will make Alex look way better than he is, but on paper at least this position is about the same as last year. However, we do at least have better prospects for the future. We knew that Troy Smith and David Carr hadn’t done squat in the NFL. Kaepernick and Tolzien are unknown, but they have great upside and did extremely well in college.

2010

Frank Gore (for part of the season)
Anthony Dixon
Brian Westbrook
Moran Norris

2011

Frank Gore
Kendall Hunter
Anthony Dixon
Moran Norris
Bruce Miller

This position is also pretty even with last year. However, both years this position has been a strength. The problem last year was that the inept coaching staff couldn’t figure out how to utilize Westbrook. That shouldn’t be a problem with this year’s coaching staff.

2010

Michael Crabtree
Josh Morgan
Ted Ginn
Kyle Williams (usually inactive)
Dominique Ziegler (went on IR)

2011

Braylon Edwards
Michael Crabtree
Josh Morgan
Ted Ginn
Kyle Williams

I would say that this position has definitely been upgraded. At his best, Braylon Edwards is a Pro Bowl wide receiver. At his worst, he’s still better than Crabtree has been. This offense is also uniquely suited to Crabtree’s talents (quick slants and such). Since teams have to concentrate on Edwards and Vernon Davis, Crabtree should have much more freedom to make big plays. This position is looking very strong.

2010

Vernon Davis
Delanie Walker
Nate Byham
Colin Cloherty

2011

Vernon Davis
Delanie Walker
(Bruce Miller?)

This position has not been upgraded, but the two guys who usually see the field are still here and just as beastly as ever. The lack of depth does worry me a little though.

2010

Offensive-Line Reserves:

Barry Sims
Adam Snyder
Tony Wragge
Alex Boone (mostly inactive)

2011

Offensive-Line Reserves:

Alex Boone
Adam Snyder
Daniel Kilgore
Mike Person

I’d argue that we upgraded this element of our team. Boone and Sims are about even, Snyder is the same, but I’d argue that Kilgore and Person are better than Wragge. I can’t prove that though. We’ll have to wait and see. Again though, our future at this position is much improved from last year.

2010

Defensive Line Depth:

Ricky Jean
Demetric Evans
Ray McDonald
Will Tukuafu (raw and mostly inactive)

2011

Ricky Jean
Will Tukuafu
Demarcus Dobbs
Ian Williams

This position is about the same as last year. We have some quality depth here and great prospects for the future. Dobbs looks very much like a guy who could be a starter down the road. Tukuafu is a very solid backup, and Ian Williams looks pretty good. I wouldn’t be too worried if McDonald or Soaps went down this year.

2010

Nate Clements
Shawntae Spencer
Will James
Tarell Brown
Philip Adams
Tramaine Brock

2011

Carlos Rogers
Shawntae Spencer
Tarell Brown
Tramaine Brock
Chris Culliver

I’d say this position is an upgrade as well. Will James wasn’t much to speak of, and Clements whiffed more than anything else. Most importantly, our CBs last year were really slow. Spencer was the fastest guy on the field and that’s kind of sad. No wonder we got burned! This year we have much more speed on the field and more talented young guys pushing to get on the field. Rogers is a good cover guy and doesn’t gamble for balls like Clements did. Our 3rd cornerback should be much better at covering the opposing teams’ shifty, quicky WR. No more getting burned by their No. 3 all day! Still, this is unproven. We’ll have to see. But I do feel much more confident about this position this year.

2010

Dashon Goldson
Reggie Smith
Taylor Mays

(Chris Maragos
C.J. Spillman)

2011

Reggie Smith
Dashon Goldson
Donte Whitner
Madieu Williams

I’d call this position an upgrade as well.

2010

Patrick Willis
Takeo Spikes
Navarro Bowman (raw, not ready, not suited for Spikes position)
Scott McKillop (went on IR)

2011

Patrick Willis
Navarro Bowman
Larry Grant
Tavares Gooden

Losing Spikes hurts. However, I think this position has been upgraded. Last year we tried to put Bowman in a square hole. This year he’s playing a position much more suited to his strengths. Grant and Gooden have both been solid (even if unspectacular) starters. Both are still young and hungry to prove themselves. Should Bowman falter, our depth looks pretty good.

2010

Manny Lawson
Parys Haralson
Ahmad Brooks (Didn’t play much as I remember)
Thaddeus Gibson (mostly inactive)
Travis Laboy

2011

Ahmad Brooks
Parys Haralson
Aldon Smith
(Bruce Miller)

I’ve gotta say, despite the lack of depth, I feel much better about this position this year. Brooks and Smith both look like they can be dominant, game-changing rushers. Haralson is pretty solid. If we still had Applewhite I’d feel truly comfortable.

Not a troll

by Riding The F Train on Sep 7, 2011 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

As far as the unproven track record of the coaches

Yeah that scares me a little. However, in their most recent coaching opportunities they have been very, very successful.

Not a troll

by Riding The F Train on Sep 7, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with most of this list in terms of comparing this year to last

But, the Rams and Cardinals are better teams now so the improvements to our team may not mean a better record necessarily.

by Togna Balogna on Sep 7, 2011 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very True

We’ll have to see how things shake out. Hopefully we come out on top but the whole NFC West looks more respectable.

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by Riding The F Train on Sep 7, 2011 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

And the track record of Fangio

Is overblown.

We’re talking expansion teams running with starting talent that we would have cut this year and a Colts team that refused to switch to a 3-4.

by Ougadas on Sep 8, 2011 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

but the carolina expansion teams

are the ones with the decent defenses.

I mean, there’s no way to tell if they were bad because of or in spite of Fangio. But since after 3 DC jobs he took an assistants job, and then went to the PAC-10… I don’t think anyone in NFL front offices thought he was a good DC.

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by zenbitz on Sep 8, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

You got it

Carolina is also an expansion team that got a decent “expansion draft” of older veterans from around the league, which gave Fangio a corps of decent linebackers to work with.

When those guys started leaving and they were replaced with essentially sixth round talents everything fell apart and was much more similar to when he took over as DC in Houston in 2005 — another expansion team with a horrible LB crew.

You can’t run a 3-4 when the LB corps is the weakness of your team. Well, you can, but the results aren’t going to be pretty.

by Ougadas on Sep 8, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK

so lets just throw out his results as DC. What makes you think he’s any good? I mean, obviously Stanford went 11-1 last year so at worst he managed not to screw that up… but that’s just an anecdote. And Stanford wasn’t particularly known for great or innovative defense under Fangio (not that it was bad in 2010.. but was it special?)

I am not saying he isn’t a great coach or a good fit for the 49ers or whatever. Frankly, I don’t have a good sense of it. But I don’t see any REASON to think he’s good. Other than that he blitzes a lot… which should be entertaining if nothing else.

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by zenbitz on Sep 8, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good? Not much

Better than Manusky? He understands that the strength of a 3-4 is in the disguised aggression and not in a soft shelled prevent.

But people who point to his “track record” without having a clue to the context of those situations — and also too lazy to spend 15 minutes on Wikipedia finding the context — don’t have the right of it.

by Ougadas on Sep 8, 2011 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

so

it’s your thesis then – that the 49ers defensive success in the last 3 years was despite Manusky.

Believe me, unlike a regular internet argument – I would LOVE to be wrong! I understand that he might not have had a lot of talent in expansion defenses. But that only gives him a pass on some terrible defenses with Texas and Indianapolis. And again – you are arguing that these defenses would have been EVEN WORSE with a worse coordinator…. or at least that his job was hopeless.

So that just gives me nothing. HOW should I judge that he’s a good defensive coordinator? It’s not like some NFL office looked at his body of work through 2007 and gave him another DC job! He essentially accepted a demotion to work with Baltimore. WHICH I pointed out – at least it’s a team with a great defense so one presumes that they don’t hire worthless defensive assistant coaches.

So, again – what makes you think he’s any GOOD?

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by zenbitz on Sep 11, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't see any defensive success under Manusky

This is a passing league. We have been all-world against the run but nobody cares because they could pass on us at will. When they wanted to hit their first read it was open the majority of the time, and when it wasn’t they had 5-7 seconds of unmolested time to make the deep throw, and when we dropped everybody and rushed 3-4 they just screened us to death.

I’m saying he’s better than Manusky because he understands how the game is played at the professional level if you want to have a prayer of stopping the pass. The answer is, you pressure the quarterback and attack, you do not wait back in a shell and react to what the offense does. If you are reacting, you are a step behind and in todays NFL if you are a step behind you have already lost.

And I do believe there are many DC’s who are better. Just not any who we had a shot at bringing in this year and Manusky had to go. That is the issue. Hugely successful DCs do not go to other teams to DC. They leave for head coaching jobs. You aren’t going to get a guy like that. Out of what was available, he was the best candidate.

My claim is that if you want to judge if he’s a good defensive coordinator for what we are trying to do here you have to use what you know of the game. You have to research offensive trends and how defenses have attacked them with different personnel. You have to dig up his old game logs and playbooks and see if his basic football theory is sound. You have to do as much due diligence as you can without actually having the connections a GM has to vet the choice.

And even then you can’t say that he’s good, only that his scheme using the personnel that we have is better than any other option.

by Ougadas on Sep 12, 2011 6:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

but how do you know either of these guys do this or not?

reading the internet? Please, enlighten me.

I’M not the one claiming this DC or OC or HC is better or worse than the other. I’M saying I don’t know. All I can look at is the results.

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by zenbitz on Sep 12, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

he wants to blitz willis more

he’s a better DC. this is the only argument needed. we are done

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by Joshpreet on Sep 12, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Watch football

Understand not only what they are doing but why they are doing it.

If you can’t, that doesn’t make you any less of a fan, but it’s kind of hard to make your own judgements when you don’t know what to look for and how to evaluate it.

If you can’t but want to, start with any book about football fundamentals in your local library. Anything published since 1970 will do. There isn’t really anything new under the sun in football, just new twists on old ideas and sometimes bringing back a dead idea long after everyone else has forgotten how it was forced into obscurity. Understand blocking schemes and defensive front 7 alignments and you’ll be halfway there.

by Ougadas on Sep 13, 2011 5:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

In fact, he’s never been a coordinator at the NFL level, other than QB coach in Oakland. Although I guess his experience with Kerry Collins will come in handy with the 49ers mediocre quarterbacking.

You do realize that every coach that’s ever coached a single down and been successful did not start out as a head coach don’t you?

Harbaugh has pro experience as an assistant coach, he has pro experience as a player, and he has taken bottom of the barrel teams at the college level and turned them in to winners.

Now, I don’t know where you get off thinking he cannot or will not be successful for the factors you listed, but if you in some sick way are hoping that you are right about any of that, I think your going to be eating a big nice crap burger here soon.

Get off the damn negativity already!

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by Drew Kerr on Sep 7, 2011 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Slow Down There Drew

The guy made some valid points. He could very well be reading the situation correctly. It’s not like he’s trolling or something. He made some detailed comments/analysis saying pretty much the exact same things most of the guys on the radio or the larger press are saying.

Certainly no reason to jump all over the guy.

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by Riding The F Train on Sep 7, 2011 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did not say "can not" or "will not"

I said that there are question marks. And I did NOT criticize his lack of HEAD coaching experience at the NFL level… I questioned his lack of COORDINATOR level experience at the NFL level. I don’t know the stats, but MOST NFL head coaches (good ones and bad ones!) were DCs or OCs. first. Now maybe the Niners brass is exploiting some market inefficiency here, but more likely they just jumped on a big bay area name and are praying he’s another genius.

Harbaugh has demonstrated (twice) that he can turn an NCAA team around. Why should I believe that he can do it with an NFL franchise—- and more importantly HOW can I believe that he can do it in, what, the 2 months he’s been with the Niners.

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by zenbitz on Sep 8, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Contradiction

You say you remember when you could hear the team cheering “not too long ago” but then go on to say you haven’t since 2005 and have been in the house since 2005???? When did you hear them cheering exactly?

I live about 6 blocks from Candlestick, and I remember not too long ago when you could hear the stadium roar when the NIners scored, and I couldn’t park by my house. Now, not so much (and I have only been in that house since 2005… hmmm … maybe it’s ME!)

Doesn’t add up if you do the math on that one… If it is a shot at Alex Smith… FAIL

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by Drew Kerr on Sep 7, 2011 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, that was kind of muddled.

I seem to remember hearing the stadium when I first moved in. However, the 49ers have been pretty bad in that whole time.
In 2006 the average attendence was 68,000. (no numbers for 2005). In 2010 it was higher! (69K). So maybe I am just going deaf or the neighborhood background noise is louder.

Oh, and I don’t take shots at Alex Smith… BUT OPPOSING DEFENSE DO! badda-bing!

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by zenbitz on Sep 8, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not true: 'We all loved Sing until we went 0-5 last year.'

I never liked Singletary as a HC. And particularly as a HC in SF. I really appreciated this posting. We will have to wait and see how successful Harbaugh and his guys, the other coaches and players, will be. But clearly, the potential for Harbaugh is huge and growing.

by petillius7 on Sep 11, 2011 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

You have out done yourself!

Bravo on an incredibly well written and thought out piece.
It makes me bummed that I will probably miss most of the game and TJax’s imitation of a turtle flipped on it’s shell.
I also really like the,

But this way of doing things is signature Harbaugh. This way has also been proven to be successful. This is the way the Patriots roll and it’s the answer to why they have such good drafts.
In many ways I feel like Harbaugh and Baalke have emulated Belichick, to a point. While I don’t expect the Mini-Belis(Harb and Co.) to have the immediate level of success of Belichick, as they do appear to be pretty new to that type of tricky mind games(as far as personnel and draft pick acquisitions). I do see them getting more bargaining chips as the team builds more respect by winning games(something which will surely happen, and may even make Edwards look smart for joining the team when many other reputable FAs wouldn’t touch us). Obviously there are some things they need to get worked out(i.e. Tim the intern/emailing the whole freakin’ league to try and unload a player), but maybe that was actually a calculated maneuver which backfired or we just haven’t seen the full outcome of it yet.
Ultimately, I suspect we might become the chip wielding monster of the West to be the counterpart to the Belichick and the Pats in the East.
Hey, I can dream, can’t I?
But I digress. Great read, and I think the Harbs will really have us turning heads this year!

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by Conskies on Sep 7, 2011 9:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks!

I agree about Tim the intern. Harbaugh should set Fangio loose on him.

Patriots of the west…I like that. Maybe that’s why we signed Roman. If we’re imitating the Patriots then we’re gonna need his CIA training to film opposing teams practices!

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by Riding The F Train on Sep 7, 2011 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best sentence of the entire piece.
PWilly having a mini-PWilly next to him and both of them rushing the passer more this year? Sick!

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by Drew Kerr on Sep 7, 2011 9:55 PM PDT reply actions  

:)

I was wondering if I was going to get flak for calling Bowman that…

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by Riding The F Train on Sep 7, 2011 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

flak

Patrick Willis 6’1" 240lbs
Navarro Bowman 6’0" 242lbs

they’re almost exactly the same size!!! . . . .. except in terms of presence and talent on the field, in which case bowman is a mini-pwilly.

by reedkrase on Sep 8, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am very excited to see what this team can do during th regular season.

preseason is not a precursor to what this team will be during regular season. Any way you look at it, it seems that long term this team is headed in the right direction. The team seems to be taking a slow and steady approach to building the team. I am also glad that Harbaugh gave the green dot to Patrick Willis this year and made me wonder why he has not worn it for many years now.

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 7, 2011 9:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Excellent...

…Point about the green dot. I hadn’t realized that happened. I agree, great idea on Harbaugh’s part!

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by Riding The F Train on Sep 7, 2011 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

To EVERYBODY

It’s worth noting; while Fangio does not have a record of being a good NFL coordinator, there is a coach on our staff who does. Anybody know who I’m referring to? Harbaugh did a good job of covering his bases as far as hiring guys who could take over for other guys if those guys don’t pan out.

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by Riding The F Train on Sep 7, 2011 11:45 PM PDT reply actions  

the special teams guy, right?

Seely (had to look it up).

Now THAT is a guy who has had success at the NFL level. His special teams have ranked in the top 10 (including #1 in 2009) every year I looked (Football Outsiders rankings). Well, NE was 12th in 2005, but I’ll let that slide.

Niners were terrible on Kick Coverage last year… and terrible on Punt Returns in 2009. Getting those numbers up to average along with Rackers and Lee would be a improvement. Don’t know if it’s worth a whole win though (couldn’t get too optimisitic there!)

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by zenbitz on Sep 8, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whoops

I left out the crucial word. :( I was referring to DEFENSIVE Coordinator experience. Know who I’m talking about?

But yes, I agree Seely should be a major upgrade.

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by Riding The F Train on Sep 8, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

(Give you a clue)

He looks like Michael Ironside

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by Riding The F Train on Sep 8, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just wante to point out

that the dialogue in response to this post has been extremely amiable and friendly in nature. Like both sides of the argument.

by masa11284 on Sep 8, 2011 1:58 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Great post!

Rec’d for sure.

Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs this season, hopefully! :)

by teekay on Sep 8, 2011 4:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Optimistic for this season?

The arrow might be pointed up for the future but this team is no contender. Soft schedule, good opponents have some key injuries, a few lucky breaks and can be a mediocre team that has a 10-11 win season like the Chiefs/Bucs/Bears last year.

If you believe the current Harbaugh/Roman/Fangio regime is the 2nd coming still have to acknowledge this roster has only 60% or the corp players they need.

Manusky has taken a lot of heat but his defensive principals were sound: build wall against the run and force the opponent to beat you with lower percentage 2nd/3rd and longs (Ravens blueprint). The 49ers problem wasn’t scheme but talent. Weak pass rush with weak secondary returned the result in a weak pass defense (Ravens: Suggs, Reed … 49ers nada but tried both free agency and the draft). Oh yes blitzing was the answer. Except if you checked advanced statistic sources instead of Wikipedia the 49ers were awful blitzing. It simply opened up more holes in a porous secondary that offenses exploited thus the complaints are really misdirected. Manusky knew his personnel and wasn’t much he could do if the offense was dead set passing against him other hang back and try to mitigate the damage.

The Saints defense on Thursday night was a good look Fangio’s defense. Can blitz and beat the hell out of the Tarvaris Jacksons but good offenses are going to punish those blitz induced mismatches and rip through them like swiss cheese (see Houston preseason game). Until the 49ers get a pass rusher (currently don’t even have a Saints Will Smith) and the secondary is upgraded than the lack of talent is going to painfully show no matter the scheme. Trust me, the 49ers hardly upgraded their CB position. Rodgers is likely an upgrade over Clements but Clements wasn’t bad, he was decent to good. Spencer and Brown were bad and absolutely awful yet they return to the same spots on the depth chart. (Again for reference go to some advanced statistic sites instead Wikipedia). The upgrade hope resides with Whitner and Reggie (thank god 1 of these 10 safety picks over the last 5 years might finally turn up something).

The difficult part about Fangio is he’s not matching his scheme to personnel. The Saints bitiz and gamble defense works for them because they have a high powered offense. Produce two turnovers on defense and it’s a win for the Saints. The 49ers won’t have a high powered offense this season. Blitz, gamble and lose the 49ers offense isn’t going to march right back down the field to get back those 7 points. This is more of a scheme a team turns to when they have a serious lack of talent on defense and need to do something before the window closes on the offense. Its desperation, not scheme.

Brooks and Bowman are the only two who really fit with Fangio’s scheme. Brooks can rush up field every play cause frankly that is all he can do. Bowman is a fluid blitzer and will be given the freedom to roam. Yet Willis is being terribly miscast as Sam Mills in this defense. Willis isn’t a field captain, his strength isn’t diagnosing the pre-snap read, directing the troops and cleaning up the left overs. He’s a react and attack LB now being asked to cleanup the 2nd level runs and drop back into pass defense. Anyone else notice how foolish the 49ers looked trying to stop Andre Johnson in the slot with a combination of Willis and Whitner? Nothing like putting your best player in position to make all the tackles after a 6 yard gain (He can share his frustrations with D.J. Williams in Denver).

I am still waiting for someone to explain to me how gutting the defensive line of run stuffers for pass rushers makes sense when the plan is to bring the house every play at the LB position? Looks more like swinging the pendulum from one extreme to the other which is change but not improvement. Anyone who wants to pass on that Dom Capers association BS please explain why Capers anchors his line with 3 massive run stoppers in Green Bay?

I don’t have many quibbles with the offense. Edwards is a #2 WR, not #1 but was expecting Crabtree to be a suitable #1 in Harbaughs scheme anyways. Crabtree/Edwards/Morgan is solid #1, #2, #3 with Williams a capable slot receiver.

The offensive line has a promising young corp which should be around for years. It’s run based, not pass based but honestly can’t think of single good team that has ever been held back because the line was run based.

Other than starting QB the offense has all the talent in place to be good for years. A solid rotation is ready should Gore decline. We way overrate Walker but doubt it will take Harbaugh 2 season to figure out the 21 personnel package with Walker isn’t going to beat anyone unlike Singletary.

Maybe its due to opening weekend. I’m not tasting the sugary, instant kool-aid some passing around. If there is some tasty 49ers drink, it’s the Har-barrels fermenting for a few years.

by bignerd on Sep 10, 2011 12:21 AM PDT reply actions  

A few notes on your reply, which I liked

Saints D is a bad example of a defense, they made so many schematic mistakes.
#1-They should never be rushing 3 against Rodgers, rushing 3 is a tactic you use against QBs who get the ball out fast, like Kurt Warner, Sam Bradford, Peyton Manning or Steve Young. These guys had a clock , 1-2-3 ball out. Rodgers, like Brady, or Roethlisberger, is more of a , sit sit sit, move, sit sit sit, move throw to wide open guy.
#2-They game planned really horribly for Green Bays 2 favorite pattens, the deep dig and the soft slant.

Back on the 49ers. As far as this season’s expectations go, yes, people are just ignoring the fact that without an off-season the teams that have gone through system changes on both sides of the ball simply do not have the potential to make the “massive” leap we’ve seen from 1 or 2 underachieving teams each year. Teams like the Lions, Bills, Redskins, Texans have a much better shot at that.

Add into it that no matter how much we want Smith to succeed, he’s still not going to be a great QB with a near 100 rating season that generally launches a team upward.

For going forward, I completely agree with the questioning of the defensive line. I’ve said this in other threads, but I don’t know how anyone can argue that the team is better situated for a 3-4 than a 4-3 at this point. Maybe Fangio will recognize this and the “hybrid” he likes will become much more of a 4-3 and nickel defense. That will be one of the more interesting things of the season.

I’m not on the over-hyping Dobbs train yet, but looking toward the future a Smith-McDonald-Dobbs-Smith line looks like a freaking fantastic defensive line.

I disagree that Edwards is a #2, but maybe it’s just because I define WRs a little differently than other people because there is a very tiered system of WRs, there are 5 or 6 dominant guys, another 7 or 8 solid guys, then 10-15 very good guys. I consider these guys all #1s, but obviously the bottom half guys are not Calvin Johnson or Andre Johnson or Fitzgerald. We’d all like those guys, but they go #1/#2/#3 in the draft. I consider the bottom half guys to be #1A/#2B guys, meaning if you want to have a solid receiving corps, you need 2 of them.

I think Edwards is better than Crabtree, but together as 1A/1B they can be plenty good. ( I personally prefer Williams to Morgan as the slot )

The current offensive line, let’s be honest, could just turn out to be shit. There’s a reasonable chance that they only have 1 better than mediocre NFL starter going forward. It’s a depressing thought considering all the picks they’ve spent int he past 7 years.

They need to get a little lucky with some of these players. Dobbs or Williams ( or both ) getting to a starter level as UDFA. Kilgore or Person becoming a starter as late rounders. One of the late round corners getting to a #2 level ( Brock, Holcolmb, Adams ), having Davis or Rachal become good.

There are a lot of things the 49ers need to happen for them to even have a shot at “arriving” in the next couple of years. If they start to occur toward the end of the season, wouldn’t shock me to see the 49ers go hard after a vet QB to take them there.

by whistlingmountain on Sep 10, 2011 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

One of the Saints prime faults

Is that once they become convinced that something works, they cling to it like a life raft. If Reggie Bush wasn’t bleeding them dry with his contract he would still be in NO where they would still be trying to persuade the world he’s a running back.

I mention this to say that I think we’re doing the same thing with the 3-4. The only personnel we had last year that was better suited to a 3-4 than a 4-3 was Franklin, and he’s gone. We could have kept Lawson, still drafted Aldon and been in much better shape. Clinging to it doesn’t make any sense, and I’m starting to believe that we have Fangio because he was a package deal with Harbs. The big thing I like from him is that he’s willing to blitz where Manusky wasn’t.

I’m a believer in most advanced statistics, but the one article that talked about teams success blitzing last year was pretty bad. They used the data they had, but there is no X’s and O’s context — they just counted pass rushers. There is a world of difference between Manusky’s “lets just send another guy” and a blitz.

I also disagree with Edwards being a #2. When he’s catching the ball he stretches the field and is a threat that must be accounted for. Crabs is best running the underneath stuff and making plays with YAC against worse corners. To me that’s a pretty clear #1/#2 relationship. I also prefer Williams in the slot. Putting a speed guy in the slot lets you run the evil dig/corner combo that gives the Cover 2 fits.

Solari is going to be on the hot seat if the line play doesn’t improve — even if we win the West. We’ve got plenty of young guys that are not showing development.

by Ougadas on Sep 10, 2011 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think Lawson is good.. in general.. so I don't care that he left.

He was extremely overrated for being an ok run stopper, and ok in coverage… for a 3-4 OLB. It’s not like he’s good in coverage in comparison to a traditional 4-3 OLB. I didn’t want him on the field in the nickel, TEs abused him.

So should they go 4-3, I’d expect a player whose good in coverage to come in and play next to Bowman and Willis.

But I expect to see a lot of nickel this year with Smith-McDonald-Sopoaga-Smith Willis-Bowman and 5 dbs. I think they expected this coming in and it’s hwy they paid McDonald. They can’t possibly view him as worth the contract if he’s always at 3-4 DE.

by whistlingmountain on Sep 10, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like it fits.

I’d love to see us transition.

by Ougadas on Sep 10, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

re: Lawson

I’m recalling his superman-diving-interception in 2010. The guy may not have been a stellar pass rusher, but he could cover.

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by See Jay on Sep 12, 2011 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Against Zach Miller, no less.

Ninjames on Anthony Dixon's Tweeting:
"He’s going for the ‘T’ key, he should probably turn to it, but he stops and checks out the ‘R’ key first, then doubles back for a look at the ‘Y’ key, then by the time he decides to go back to ‘T’ to get some words typed, he’s brought down for a two-yard loss, ending up with the ‘G’ key."

by See Jay on Sep 12, 2011 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

making a play every now and again doesn't make him great in coverage

he was a good 3-4 OLB in coverage

but 4-3 OLBs are expected to cover well every time they drop back. Lawson unfortunately is a 3-4 OLB who can not pass rush. He’s going to have a hard time being good as a 4-3 OLB.

Spikes was better in coverage than Lawson last year. Spikes the aging linebacker…

by whistlingmountain on Sep 12, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

DEFENSE

played well on Sunday. Stout run defense, good pressure, decent coverage.
Of course, next week we might play a team with a real offenseive line but other than some flat play in the 3rd quarter I thought Fangio’s guys did fine. Great job with “Beast Mode” Lynch who is a stud.

Only discouraging things were the bomb and the successful half-time adjustments by the Seahawks. First was probably just a breakdown/missed tackle… but the second worries me a little.

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by zenbitz on Sep 11, 2011 6:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Burned by the rookie

Yeah, we had some secondary breakdowns. I hope this get fixed as the season progresses, and it should also be helped by Reggie Smith getting healthy and playing more. Our defense could be really, really good this year. Looking forward to seeing how we do against Dallas

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by Riding The F Train on Sep 12, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

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