49ers Vs. Saints: A Closer Look at the Saints Run Game Statistics
I'm not a statistician. I don't even know if I spelled it right, in fact. But I do find stats interesting and I think they contribute to the bigger picture. With that in mind, understand that this post is just a theoretical musing based on a few things I dug around to find.
When the Saints beat Detroit last weekend I noticed that they were running the ball quite well. Their total rushing yardage was 167, so yeah, that's pretty good.
I took a look at their rushing yards over the course of the season and found out that they were sixth in the league with 2,127 yards. Not what you expected from a team with Drew Brees slinging around the rock and breaking NFL passing records? Me neither. (Those of you who expected it, go jump off a cliff).
That to me said that running the ball is a key part of the Saints offense, one that, if the 49ers could stop it, might make a huge difference in how successful they are on offense. That's the knee-jerk reaction anyways. But then a wise man and twitter follower, Brad Hill (SBN Profile, Twitter Profile), asked me how many of those yards were while "salting away a lead". Great question...let's jump (unless you went off said cliff already) to find out.
So how would I find out how often the Saints ran to protect a lead? It's probably not all that easy to "prove" when they were doing so versus continuing along with their usual approach on offense. But at least we can get some idea as to the game situation compared to rushing yards.
I asked our good friend Mike Sando for help. He always has stats handy, eerily handy...as if he sleeps with a tablet filled with nothing but stats...but that's another post for another day.
Mike was kind enough to provide me with some numbers regarding the point differential at the time yards were gained. According to him, the Saints are second in the NFL in rushing yards when leading on the scoreboard. They gain 27.3% of their rushing yards while protecting a lead.
I'm not sure if Mike used my criteria for protecting a lead, which isn't scientific (10+ point lead in quarters 1-3, 14+ point lead in 4th quarter), or if he used his own formula. I do know that he understood what I was after and that these numbers are at least a decent indicator of the Saints' tendencies with regard to running the ball.
I also reseached run/pass stats by quarter, which are as follows:
| 1st Q | 2nd Q | 3rd Q | 4th Q | OT | Total | |
| Run Plays | 93 | 87 | 108 | 140 | 3 | 431 |
| Rush Yards | 560 | 419 | 558 | 580 | 10 | 2127 |
| Yards/Att | 6.02 | 4.82 | 5.17 | 4.14 | 3.33 | 4.94 |
| Pass Plays | 146 | 213 | 144 | 156 | 3 | 662 |
| Points Scored | 5.8 | 10.4 | 8.2 | 10.2 | 0.2 | 34.8 |
| Points Allowed | 4.5 | 7.1 | 4.4 | 5.6 | 0 | 21.6 |
| Total Plays | 239 | 300 | 252 | 296 | 6 | 1093 |
| % Pass | 61.1% | 71.0% | 57.1% | 52.7% | 50.0% | 60.6% |
| % Run | 38.9% | 29.0% | 42.9% | 47.3% | 50.0% | 39.4% |
You can see that to open the game, the Saints are in attack mode. The game is still close here as they allow just 1.3 points per game less than they score. They're averaging six yards per carry, which sets up the pass game nicely.
They really ramp up the passing game in the second quarter. This seems to be their time to put the pedal to the metal, and it's working. They score 3.3 points more than their opponents in the second. They're calling more than double the pass plays to run plays.
In the third quarter, when the average score is in their favor, the Saints go back to the run, and it works. They're still outscoring their opponents, playing keep-away and protecting their lead.
The fourth quarter shows the Saints running the ball more than ever, and the point differential shows it. At this point it seems like defenses have checked out as the Saints are scoring their second highest point average of any quarter despite running the ball so much.
Another few numbers: The Saints are fifth in the NFL in rushing first-downs. They're also tied for third in rushing touchdowns. They're also first in passing first-downs and touchdowns...so basically...they get a lot of first downs and touchdowns however they need to...not much of an indicator here.
I'm not sure I can draw any definitive conclusions from these numbers since they are only just a piece to the puzzle, but I do find them interesting. I would say that stopping the run early is key since they like to open up the game that way. I have my doubts that the passing game would be so opened-up if they weren't averaging four-to-six yards per carry in the first half.
The pass seems to be the most important part of building their leads, usually in the second quarter. They've had success in running the ball and that sets up the passing game.
All in all I think these stats illustrate how much of a total effort on defense will be required in order to slow-down the Saints. Stopping the run always helps, and I have little doubt that we will stop it, but this team is skewed heavily toward the pass and has had success doing it. Still, shutting down that productive run-game early would seem to disrupt their plan.
Pass rush, safety-play, and tackling are probbly going to be the biggest keys to the game. The fact that we know the Saints will drop back to pass a lot means Aldon Smith the the sub packages will be employed quite a bit. I'm hoping we can get to Brees and stay disciplined on the back end to limit big plays.
It also seems we better be ready for the start of the game on defense, because those numbers are striking. If we can limit their scoring in the second, it's interesting to note they're giving up a touchdown in that quarter on defense, too. They seem to like being up at half-time. The 49ers can't let that happen.
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Some things I left out:
The Saints average nearly 5 YPC throughout the game. The run IS important to them. They never go below 4YPC in fact.
You’ll notice the YPC drops in the 4th quarter despite the yards going up. They’re running out leads here for sure, whether they gain yards or not. They also don’t abandon the passing game, as you can see.
The first quarter YPC is very high at 6. Disrupting that could be key.
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Their pass sets up their run perfectly. Example: You focus too much on their complex passing attack that you forget about the run so therefore they pick up good chunks of yardage.
Its the complete opposite of what the Broncos did to the Steelers, kind of. The Steelers focused so much on the run/Teblows scrambling ability that they left their corners alone for most of the game. No Ryan Clark was a factor but they couldn’t guard anybody straight up that day.
they do run a lot of draws and counters from that spread formation
just like they pass vertically from bunched formations, too.
Similar to 49ers in formation/play-call variety.
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completely off topic
But roman harper has a significant ankle injury according to maiocco…
by sundaysfinest on Jan 11, 2012 2:14 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
Suffered in the 4th quarter of the Lions game
He played the rest of the game. Says he wants to play. How much he will be impacted is anyones guess.
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Uh oh...better put an Asterisk on it.
Any chance
we can get their rushing numbers indoors vs outdoors?
Quick stats
I went to Rotoworld and looked at the outdoor games only
Total as a team: 502 yards on 118 carries for a 4.25
By Player:
Sproles: 182 yards on 26 carries for a 7.00
Ingram: 149 yards on 48 carries for a 3.08
Thomas: 118 yards on 31 carries for a 3.81
Ivory: 53 yards on 13 carries for a 4.08
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Uh oh...better put an Asterisk on it.
Not really
If Sproles is shut down in the run game, he could still show up in the pass game if you let Ivory or Thomas get yards in chunks. Those two will be rushed more than Sproles will be. I haven’t looked the stats up, but it appears that Sproles has a big game running when he’s having a big game receiving. When a team gets burned by him in the passing game, they look for that, not expecting a run between the tackles. Shut Sproles down in the passing game (your defense has the speed to do so, I think) and it’s likely he won’t be running very much (in my opinion).
Ivory and Thomas, though, will receive more of the carries, probably more of the Tusk than Thomas. He’sa vicious, bruising runner, stands more of a chance against your stout D. Thomas is great in his own right, a real “whole package” back, but we’ll need to establish the run with Tusk to open up the run game and soften the defense. So, if Ivory and Thomas are shut down, our run game will be effectively eliminated.
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by cajuncreation on Jan 11, 2012 7:26 PM PST up reply actions
Can not wait to see what Patrick Willis and Navorro Bowman have to say about saints run and pass game.
the smack down is coming. Last time we met in regular season saints totaled 50 yards through the ground and 256 or so through the air and that was with a defense not as good as this year.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 12, 2012 12:03 AM PST up reply actions
Their offense is better too... so it could be a wash, but maybe not too...
The one major difference is that we have minimized shooting ourselves in the foot this year…. that will be key in this game as well… sound, smart, fundamental football.
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Very interesting!
It looks like they’re running just enough at the start of the game that team’s can’t cheat against the pass. Here are some statistics from the NYTimes Fifth Down Blog that might supplement your analysis.
http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/08/the-true-measure-of-a-pass-heavy-offense/
It looks like, even correcting for scoring margin, New Orleans is one of the more pass heavy offenses, but not the most pass heavy. In fact, they rank behind Baltimore(!) in that regard. The Ravens are chuckers!
Thanks for this highlight of the Saints run game
I was curious, because it’s getting overlooked by a lot of people, I think because everyone admires their passing plays. I even heard someone say, “the Saints don’t have a running game” and I was like, wait a minute, yes they do… Interesting to see how involved their running game is, actually.
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Sando did all that work with the stats
and yet somehow decided that an article about the 49ers getting new Louis Vuitton bags was more important. http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/56983/playoff-baggage-49ers-sport-theirs-proudly SMH
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This is How we Beat the Saints
In the three losses the Saints had this year…they couldn’t run the ball.
Example: Saints averaged 133 yards rushing on the season.
1st loss… Green Bay, Saints only run for 81 yards.
2nd loss..Tamba Bay, Saints only run for 70 yards
3rd loss…Rams, Saints only run for 56 yards.
Saint’s rush average in 3 losses 69 yards/per game.
This would be the last in the league..behind the NY Giants who averaged 90 yards/Game
If we stop their running game we win the Game. The only other factor is turnovers
The Saints are the worst team in the League at forcing turnovers, 49ers are #1 in takeaways/giveways. Also in the Saints 3 losses they turned the ball over 7 times. The 49ers have to win the turnover battle.
Our run game is vital...
However, we can win without it, emphasis on can rather than will. First game against Atlanta, our run game was abysmal, yet we won. In overtime, granted, but it never should’vegone that far. We had a ten point lead in the last five minutes and couldn’t count on defense to protect it, offense couldn’t put it away in regulation. If not for a 4th and 1 stand on defense (who proclaimed ad nauseum afterward they made plays when they had to, blah, blah, blah) that game could’ve gone differently. Now, I’m not claiming that Atlanta is the same as San Francisco, but we have won with little run game.
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by cajuncreation on Jan 11, 2012 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
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by cajuncreation on Jan 11, 2012 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
they also abandoned the run in those games.
point differential is key when looking at run stats
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