Alex Smith: Cinderella Man
by David Fucillo on Jan 16, 2012 2:00 PM PST
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PrintAlex Smith, welcome to the other side. After six years of up and down play that resulted in countless arguments on this site, Alex Smith made "the leap." If he does nothing else for the rest of his career, he will always have Saturday afternoon. After years of derision, Alex Smith reached the mountain top.
Before you say, "Well, he has to win a Super Bowl to get to the real mountain top," let's remember how far he has come this year. Fifteen months ago on Sunday Night Football, 49ers fans snapped as we heard the infamous "We Want Carr" chant go up in Candlestick Park. There were no winners in that one as Alex Smith was struggling and 49ers fans were at their breaking point. You could blame nobody and everybody for that.
Fifteen months later, Alex Smith is a conquering hero. We've heard over and over about how he could have gone elsewhere and escaped from the madness of San Francisco. Much of the last six years were a veritable disaster for Smith and the team. There were high points, but by the end of the 2010 season, all parties involved seemed completely exhausted with each other. On January 2, 2011, following the 49ers season-ending victory over the Arizona Cardinals, I don't know many people who expected Alex Smith to be back in 2011.
And then, Jim Harbaugh happened and the NFL lockout happened. Harbaugh had to know the limitations the lockout would impose on finding a quarterback. He had a chance to meet with Alex before the lockout and both sides decided to give it a go. Alex has mentioned how it would have been easy to run and he wanted to stick it out, but I'm curious how much of his decision was thanks to a big-time sales job by Jim Harbaugh.
He had a subsequent meeting with Harbaugh during the one day suspension of the lockout and had a chance to get the information needed to lead "Camp Alex." While it remains to be seen how much of an impact the minicamp had on implementing the offense and getting the team ready, the leadership of Alex Smith in taking control of the situation looks pretty important in hindsight.
We'll have plenty of time to look back on the 2011 season, hopefully in a few more weeks. But in looking back at Alex Smith in 2011 versus Alex Smith at any other time in his 49ers career, the huge difference has been confidence. While he might have always been a good guy in the locker room and a guy who could make the occasional fourth quarter comeback, the difference this year is apparent. Jim Harbaugh has been in his corner from day one without a single public moment of doubt.
The 2011 regular season saw the re-birth take shape as the guy some have called "The Phoenix" (I kinda like that one) started to rise from the ashes. He was still labeled a "game manager" for much of this season in part because the 49ers really did not rely on him to make a ton of plays like a Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers. He did show an ability to take over on occasion (chunks of the Giants game, the third quarter against the Eagles), so the "game manager" label was a bit of a misnomer depending on how we defined the word. Nonetheless, there were some concerns about the 49ers taking on some of the high-flying passing attacks.
And then Saturday happened. We had numerous discussions about whether Alex Smith could help this team win a shootout. The closest they came to a shootout this season was against the Giants and even that wasn't really a traditional shootout. There were concerns about what would happen if there was a defensive letdown.
Well, Saturday we got an answer.
The final seven minutes of Saturday's game was as much a shootout as you'll ever see. Say what you want about the Saints defensive game-plan (and it was awful late), but Alex Smith took the bull by the horns and won this game for the 49ers. Vernon Davis was key of course and deserves all the credit in the world for his monster performance, but Alex Smith was on fire.
He had the huge keeper touchdown run in a perfect play call against the Saints overly aggressive defense. We've always known he has some manner of athleticism and it was nice to see him show that Tim Tebow and Cam Newton are not the only guys with solid scrambling skills. Then, on the final drive, he nailed Vernon Davis in the absolute perfect location. In years' past he might have thrown behind or high or low. Saturday, they were perfect.
And as we have discussed in the past, this really could not have happened to a better person. Alex Smith has taken his lumps in San Francisco and been a man about it. Jim Harbaugh talks about his "Mighty Men" and Alex Smith personifies that. He is not the biggest or the fastest, but he is a Man. This 49ers team is made up of so many great people and Alex Smith is truly one of the leaders.
There are still two more wins to be notched, but for now life is good with Alex Smith as the 49ers quarterback. I've been waiting a while for the right time to post this video. The first time I heard the song (on Pandora) was only about three months ago, but I immediately thought of Alex Smith. There is some NSFW language if you're at work.
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And for his next trick... an NFC Championship.
by IRONxMIKE on Jan 16, 2012 2:04 PM PST reply actions 6 recs
AleX ( Baller ) Smith or Baller , that's what Justin said ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
So did I!
Instead, I opted to jump up and down and hug everyone in the bar. ’Twas a great day, haha.
Win or lose, at the end of the day I'm just happy to see the Niners play well... Okay, winning is good. I prefer winning.
"Yeah, I do get emotional. It fires me up. It fires me up a lot. I'm not going to apologize for that. If that offends you or anybody else, then so be it." ~ Jim Harbaugh
Funny thing is when it was 3rd and 2, I really wanted them to roll Alex out and give him a shot to throw or run
When we got the False Start and it was 3rd and 7, I figured that chance was just gone. Then he runs it for a QB keeper all the way… My jaw about hit the ground. What a call! If it has been stuffed, we would all say how stupid it was, but they knew they had it set up!
If you look at the view from behind the QB, one replay showed it. Saints only have 4 guys to that side, everyone is overloading the other on the blitz, just a perfect play call.
If they line up to blitz the other side, it would have been trouble.
Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh
i will look again later
but I think they had a symmetric formation. Probably they can audible the other way.
[Poorly Wrought THING] is what Brian Sabean would have made if he were a [THING-maker] instead of a MLB GM
While I questioned, at times, whether Alex had the mystical "it" factor...
That he might be a bit too cerebral, I have consistently argued Alex had the skills to be a good QB in the league. It feels great to see Alex showing the world what he is capable of.
Once again, I think he will get even better after a full offseason of work on the offense and getting Morgan back. Not only is this a great season exceeding all expectations, I see a bright future. I just hope we re-sign most of the players we took on 1-year deals.
After that Saints game, Rogers made even more money
played at an all pro level.
With each passing game I think he’s more likely to get a paycheck somewhere else.
Brooks should be re-signed at a modest rate though, and Goldson can get franchised if needs be.
Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder
by whistlingmountain on Jan 16, 2012 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
Rogers will be a Niner next year.
Book it, Dano.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
Rogers has said that he wants to resign
by Andrew9erfan on Jan 16, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
they all say that
what’s he going to do, say I don’t want to play in SF and kill off one potential bidder?
Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder
by whistlingmountain on Jan 16, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
We have plenty of cap space I believe.
I’ll be beyond shocked if he isn’t in SF next year.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
big difference between saying he wants to resign when asked
and coming out on his own and saying that he wants to resign, which he did
by Andrew9erfan on Jan 16, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
He came out six weeks ago
And said he wants to play here. Rodgers will be back. 9ers were looking to spend on nomni in the off season. They are willing and ready to pay Rogers what he is worth. Which will be cheaper than what they were going to blow on nomni.
After all the crap he went through in Washington and hearing him talk about it. I have full confidence he doesn’t want to go somewhere else and start over.
Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh
I hope he's back, I'm sure he hopes the 49ers offer him as much as anyone
but what if they offer him 5 mil a year and some other team offers him 8, and the other team offers 10 more guaranteed.
It’s still a business.
Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder
by whistlingmountain on Jan 16, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
LoL
Dude, we aren’t that cheap. They’ll be up there with any other offer, unless somebody wants to SEVERELY overpay him.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
+1
They don’t low ball people. They offer people what they think they’re worth. If Carlos doesn’t think its fair, then he can go elsewhere. As much as I want him, we can’t start overpaying for guys and find ourselves in a bad cap problems in 3-5 years.
Completely agree.
He will be a Niner. Gholdson is the only one I think could leave, but I think even he will be back.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
Franchise tag
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 17, 2012 12:07 AM PST up reply actions
The 49ers pretty consistently stick to their offers, epecially for players 30 and over
I don’t consider that a low ball, it’s a “we have a value for you, here it is”
Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder
by whistlingmountain on Jan 16, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
They've been pretty good at determining value.
Which is why I said they won’t overpay him.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
I highly doubt we will low-ball him, but even if another team offers him a bit more, he either will take less, or he will at least tell his agent to squeeze what he can out of the 9ers, but get it done.
They offered Goldson 25 mil/5 years last year and he didn’t deserve that based on his performance last year. They won’t turn around and offer that to Rogers after his pro bowl year this year.
Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh
Goldson is younger, the 49ers like to extend youth
I think Rogers is 50/50
Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder
by whistlingmountain on Jan 16, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
I'm more at about 85/15.
He will be here next year.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
The only thing I'm worried about
Is that this year will prove how important it is to have a good defense. It’s a QB driven league and all that. But you need playmakers on D to make a good run in the playoffs. I think teams see this and inflate the prices on defensive players and there might be some crazy offers to lure them.
And then teams will see what happened to the Eagles
And realize that good players who play like a team are more important than standout players and scheme is very important.
Some teams will never see it that way
*cough Redskins. Some teams just love to overpay for guys and that makes it more difficult for teams like us who won’t reach to keep guys.
No I understand age is a much bigger factor with Rogers, I’m just saying both sides want to get it done, I’m not that worried about it.
I am more concerned with what happens with Goldson, we don’t have a replacement and he could easily get paid somewhere else.
Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh
Goldson isn't worth a Franchise
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
yes he is, it's a terrible safety draft and there are no free agents
the 49ers only have 1 safety who actually plays safety under contract and that is whitner ( see last 4 minutes of Saints game )
Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder
by whistlingmountain on Jan 16, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
So on cirumstance maybe...but he's not a great safety
I envy Seattle and Earl Thomas
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
circumstances are everything
I’m not saying he’s a top 5 safety, but he’s worth a franchise tag to avoid the investment and keep the defense going another year while they try to develop another draft pick or wait until a high pick in 2013. They’re in a rough spot.
Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder
by whistlingmountain on Jan 16, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
Agree
With the league changing you need a safety that’s more of a cover-guy..Earl Thomas is the next generation safety
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
You say he's not a top 5 safety
and then want to pay him like a top 5 safety?
I’d rather use the franchise tag on a guy like Carlos Rogers
No he's not
He’s not worth more than $5 million per year. There are plenty of safeties coming out who are better than him at being a safety.
I’ll admit that Goldson’s strong suit is his ability to lay the wood, but it’s more important for a safety to be able to cover and keep receivers from making big plays on him.
I don't see any quality safeties in the draft
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 17, 2012 12:08 AM PST up reply actions
Yes he is.
He’s a pro-bowler who lead the NFC in interceptions. He’s improved his tackling and has done much better in coverage.
Did you see how he fooled Brees on his interception Saturday?
"It might be time to give Alex some credit, huh?" - Harbaugh
Don't confuse schemeing with him actually fooling bree's on his own account
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
i think we have one of the best safety combos in the league
they both play very well.
Coach Harbaugh is the truth!!
Goldson get's burned alot..don't know if it's a matter of him taking to many chances or just not having a high football iq
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
again, not that Goldson is a top 5 guy
but look around the league. Every safety gets burned these days. They’re facing damn near impossible tasks of matching up against 5’10 speedsters and 6’6 250 freakish athletes.
No one should be expecting the 49ers secondary to shut down any of these top notch passing attacks. The only way for that to happen is for a combination of the offense beating itself and for the defensive pass rush to get constant pressure.
The 49ers gave up the big points to the Saints not by blown coverages, but by 2 horrific tackling angles.
Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder
by whistlingmountain on Jan 16, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
I like DG
You know what you are getting with him and he hits hard. He certainly has issues but I think he has played solid this year and is one of the many reasons we are where we are.
I would resign him for a salary around what the 10-5th best in the league is getting. If he wants top five money let him walk.
The franchise would pay him the average of the top-5 contracts for safeties in the league
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
I know that seems high
But I guess you have to see what your other options are. You may have to just bite the bullet and tag him
I believe that the safety position is one of the cheaper to franchise.
Someone would have to check that.
"It might be time to give Alex some credit, huh?" - Harbaugh
I'm sure Troy P. and Ed Reed have big contracts...don't know who the other three would be
Eric Berry might have a top-5 contract being as he was drafted so high and before the rookie-wage scale was implemented
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
it's only around 6.5m
Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder
by whistlingmountain on Jan 16, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
Given the situation...I guess that wouldn't be bad
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
He makes more positive plays than negative.
"It might be time to give Alex some credit, huh?" - Harbaugh
We gave up more pass-plays of 20+ yards than almost anyone...
Now you can blame the corner’s safties or pass-rushers for this…take your pick, from what I’ve seen I put the blame on the safeties
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
So when he does good it's the scheme, not the player.
But when he does bad it’s the player?
"It might be time to give Alex some credit, huh?" - Harbaugh
by mikeinsp on Jan 16, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
So the reason we gave up more pass-plays of 20+ yards than almost anyone if Fangio?
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
So the reason we got so many picks
is Fangio?
by mr. instigator on Jan 16, 2012 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
No.
I’m saying that you don’t give him credit for making a good play. But when he does bad you think it’s all his fault.
"It might be time to give Alex some credit, huh?" - Harbaugh
So...who's fault is it?
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
No, you're arguing for the sake of arguing
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
No I'm not.
I just think that people should get credit when it’s due.
"It might be time to give Alex some credit, huh?" - Harbaugh
Interceptions aren't neccessarily a matter of a player's individual skill
A. Cromartie had a ridiculous INT total a few years ago but he was also burned alot…same with Asante Samuel and some other DB’s
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
just look at my comment below
our pass defense numbers are inflated because all teams do is pass on us
That definitely plays a part
but we’re not just talking yardage we’re talking about repeatedly giving up big plays
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 3:55 PM PST up reply actions
Point's invaid unless you bring Td's into the context ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
still comes out to the same thing
the more passes being thrown increases the chance of big plays happening
I don't think Goldson is terrible, I just think he's being over-rated due to a flukey statistic
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
Dang , just not your day ...Goldson is having ...
… his best year as a pro … Hence the Pro Bowl Selection …!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
Dang, the pro-bowl is a popularity contest!
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
only partially from the fan vote
there’s also the players and coaches. And he deserved to go based on the season he had
by Andrew9erfan on Jan 16, 2012 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks for playing , who's Next ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
not sure how these coaches
pick pro bowlers, especially at safety. It requires lots of film study to show who are really having great years rather than checking out stats and highlight reels.
I doubt coaches voting on the pro-bowl reciepient's really put alot of film-study into it lol
Unless they were playing the player’s in question
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
and how many of those were his fault?
Because I can certainly go back and say there were 3 in the Cowboys game that weren’t his fault ( 2x Maddieu, 1x Whitner ), I know in the Giant game there were 2 or 3 more not on him.
If you’re going to throw out that stat, tell me how many were on him and how many were on Whitner, Culliver, Smith, Maddieu, Brown
It’s a cop-out to throw that out there and ignore than he’s one of 5 guys on the nickel and one of like 9 guys who have gotten playing time in the secondary.
Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder
by whistlingmountain on Jan 16, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
Ay ay ay
So our entire secondary is weak then! There’s a very simple fact here…our secondary got burned, ALOT…you can’t argue that
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
Secondary
Is the weak part of the D. Has been all year. But despite being burned alot I thought they did a good job against Breezy. The rules are in favor of the O. Secondary just needs to keep us in the game and not give up the 20+ play. Obviously they have work to do. Still, they did enough.
when a top 3 QB throws 63 times in one game
there’s bound to be some plays over 20 yards. Although we’ve allowed 20+ yard plays often, I’m still pleased with the way the secondary has played this season.
It's played well over-all...but people need to stop acting like it's a great secondary
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
Better than last year
But still a ton of work to do. So if you could replace any one of them who would you replace?
Goldson...but as as been pointed out repeatedly to me there aren't alot of options for replacing him
So I’d be happy with drafting another corner in the first 3 rounds
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
Got a feeling we will.
I would, anyway.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
people need to stop acting like it's a great secondary?
People can act however they like. Against the run the secondary is great, and they are great at creating turnovers. Given the front 7 and the QB pressures, this secondary has played well in coverage. They do give up, occasionally, the long ball. It seems that they are usually in good position to make a play, but occasionally, especially against large, elite receivers, they miss tackles or mis-time jumps. Right now, wouldn’t trade any of them for anyone else. After the season, it’s a different story.
the fact is that teams give up in the run so early in the game
that our pass defense numbers are going to be inflated because all the opposing teams do is pass on us
This is true ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
Wrong ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
They do get burned sometimes.
Wouldn’t say it’s a lot.
And at least acknowledge they’ve made a lot of great plays. More good than bad.
There are many worse secondary’s IMO.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
All safties and Db's get burned , alot is over stated , keep it real bro ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
Top-5 in the league for pass-plays of 20+ given up
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
So , how many of those were for Td's ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
I'll give up 500 yards throwing a game and 10 plays of 20+
So long as we still only give up 14 points per game…
- red zone defense in TD percentage… Not bad… Goldson played very well, and I think to say he specifically got burned regularly is a fallacy…
You DO realize how often people pass...
And pass deep on the niners.
As somebody said, the points given up with those throws are the most important thing, and it’s being ignored.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
Donte Whitner is a better overall safety than Goldson is
Goldson—6 picks, 2 passes defended during the regular season
Whitner—2 picks, 6 passes defended.
Whitner does a much better job at actually covering people
NFL.com says Goldson had 9 PDef and 6 INT. Where are you getting only 2 from?
And it says Whitner had 10 PDef and 2 INT. I also just checked a couple other highly rated free safeties in Ryan Clark (5 PDef and 1 INT), and Ed Reed (8 PDef and 3 INT). Both have had better years, but it seems like Goldson has had a pretty strong year when it comes to those stats. Am I missing something here?
"I believe in you guys in the media. I believe that you will find a way to doubt this team. Just as long as what's written is written against us we'll be happy." - Jim Harbaugh
by SanFranciscoKnights on Jan 16, 2012 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed
At the end if last year, Alex had just had five good games, I felt he had the tools but … He still seemed to have “Pocket Panic”.
I remember telling a friend they should bring him back because the only better QB they had a chance of picking up was Kolb. What a moron I was!
Go Niners!
by MO Bond on Jan 16, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
True ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
He has IT he just needed to pull his confidence out of the well first and Harbaugh helped him do that
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
There is no ( IT ) ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
I don't know about "it", but there are some who have the natural ability to lead, show up in the clutch etc.
Harbaugh himself said that one of the qualities he looked for in a quarterback was the demonstrated ability to lead his team from behind to victory.
"I believe in you guys in the media. I believe that you will find a way to doubt this team. Just as long as what's written is written against us we'll be happy." - Jim Harbaugh
by SanFranciscoKnights on Jan 16, 2012 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
He needed a system that would cater to his high intelligence, and a QB coach.
"I believe in you guys in the media. I believe that you will find a way to doubt this team. Just as long as what's written is written against us we'll be happy." - Jim Harbaugh
by SanFranciscoKnights on Jan 16, 2012 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
The Al -"X" factor
Win or lose, at the end of the day I'm just happy to see the Niners play well... Okay, winning is good. I prefer winning.
"Yeah, I do get emotional. It fires me up. It fires me up a lot. I'm not going to apologize for that. If that offends you or anybody else, then so be it." ~ Jim Harbaugh
by El Dorado on Jan 16, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
on a different note
I was getting my haircut today and I overheard a guy a few chairs down commenting on the niners. He thought the niners were going to win it all and said that Smith was “one hell of a qb”, I don’t even think any of us have used that as a descriptive word towards Alex.
by texasniner06 on Jan 16, 2012 2:11 PM PST via mobile reply actions
There's a Cowboys fan where I work
who said that he had to admit the 49ers were a great team and then he went on to say that the defense is “legendary” (those were his words).
Watching Sportsnation right now.
Talking about Alex Smith, Cowherd just out on the “wrong hat” for only the second time ever.
This is significant in a way, and made me feel almost as good as the game Saturday. Our QB, Alex Smith, is getting respect from the national media.
I. F’ing. Love. It.
Go Niners.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
It is amazing how fast the National media seems to have jumped on the Alex Smith bandwagon after mostly bashing him for years. I guess they don’t have much trash talk left after using it all up on Tebow.
Over
by cybermaldonado on Jan 16, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
It's amazing how fast some fan's have jumped on the Alex Smith bandwagon after chanting "we want carr" just over a year ago...
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
The one you aren't on apparently.
"I believe in you guys in the media. I believe that you will find a way to doubt this team. Just as long as what's written is written against us we'll be happy." - Jim Harbaugh
by SanFranciscoKnights on Jan 16, 2012 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously!!!
I hate all of you fair weather fans who were chanting that kind of crap at the stick. I’ve been to the stick and heard all the ignorant bashing this fan base has heaped on the guy over the years. To me it was always clear that Alex was a pretty good QB usually in crappy offensive systems (other than Norm’s year). He was crucified by a bunch of you guys. Bandwagon just pulled up, all boarding!!! Or maybe not, maybe you should be sent to football purgatory!!!
A. Smith + tiger blood + Harbaugh = #winning
We would push him off anyway.
He can catch the next one.
by agchee on Jan 16, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I know I saw that.
Colin’s always been a huge AS hater. Glad to see him admit he was wrong.
"It might be time to give Alex some credit, huh?" - Harbaugh
He's so wrong , that I can't listen to him ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
I love listening to The Herd and SVP. They crack me up.
I CAN NOT listen to Mike & Mike. At all. Ever. I’d rather chew glass.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
he's legitimately funny and from a guy who is from Washington (the State)
the bashes on the Seahawks like crazy, saying things like how embarrassed that he is from there, etc ,etc. So him making fun of the Seahawks is always a plus.
49ers 2012 Offseason: HELP WANTED at WR, DBs, & O-Line
by Giants49war on Jan 16, 2012 11:19 PM PST up reply actions
he bashes*
damn i need to proofread my comments….
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by Giants49war on Jan 16, 2012 11:20 PM PST up reply actions
A few weeks ago i mentioned that if you look at what Alex has been asked to do this season, mainly to be a, “game manager”, he has done it brilliantly.
Last Saturday he was asked to something different. He did that brilliantly too.
Over
the last 3:43; he did exactly what you said
but before that……………….
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 16, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
He got blitzed into oblivion and had receivers with cases of the dropsies...
There… Finished your sentence before you…
Also, before “the drive”, what did Joe Montana do in that game? Stepping up big in the 4th quarter is THE ONLY thing that matters when it happens…
This wasn’t one of the greatest postseason games of all time because of what happened in the first 3 quarters…
by Takeo33 on Jan 16, 2012 5:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Anyone have a link for Ted Robinsons call on Alex's TD run?
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Great play call and executed perfectly
Kudos to Greg Roman for calling that TD run.
And BTW FANTASTIC blocking by Staley.
Win or lose, at the end of the day I'm just happy to see the Niners play well... Okay, winning is good. I prefer winning.
"Yeah, I do get emotional. It fires me up. It fires me up a lot. I'm not going to apologize for that. If that offends you or anybody else, then so be it." ~ Jim Harbaugh
Harbaugh said Geep called the run and the entire 2 minute drive.
Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh
Harbaugh also said that Greg Roman called Alex's run play
Win or lose, at the end of the day I'm just happy to see the Niners play well... Okay, winning is good. I prefer winning.
"Yeah, I do get emotional. It fires me up. It fires me up a lot. I'm not going to apologize for that. If that offends you or anybody else, then so be it." ~ Jim Harbaugh
If Roman leaves for a HC job next year
Geep would make an awesome OC
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by Giants49war on Jan 16, 2012 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
Its gonna come back to that Urban Meyer quote that went along the lines
of saying ,“Once he gets the system, he’ll be a master of it.” I can only imagine what another year in this offense will do. Guy is an amazing athlete.
screw that quote, so overblown
what he really needs are 2 more weapons that he can trust enough to throw jump balls, over the top blitz beaters, and just generally aggressive passes.
Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder
by whistlingmountain on Jan 16, 2012 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
I want Bowe
He’s the Vernon Davis of WRs
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by SportsChicken on Jan 17, 2012 12:12 AM PST up reply actions
and he'll be franchised
Colston more likely to be available, but I don’t think he will be.
Chiefs have so much money to commit to by 2013. They’ll want to wrap up Bowe long term.
Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder
by whistlingmountain on Jan 17, 2012 3:40 AM PST up reply actions
Damn
I don’t want Colston though.
He has FA bust written all over him.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 17, 2012 10:59 PM PST up reply actions
Dwayne Bowe, Marques Colston or Vincent Jackson
I personally like Bowe the best out of the three with Jackson at a close second
Not Colston
He’s often hurt and is used to playing with Brees.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 17, 2012 12:12 AM PST up reply actions
This effin guy
Who would have thought Alex Smith would ever inspire me to do the Rick Flair “Nature Walk” celebration across a living room. Always liked him, but it never seemed like San Fran would work for him. I was so pumped to watch his career undeniably take a turn for the best in only a few minutes. Score one for Team Humble, Team Perseverance and Team Never Say Never. WOOOOOOOO!!!!
by DuckNeck Merton on Jan 16, 2012 2:19 PM PST reply actions 6 recs
In a few minutes?
5 Regular season 4rth qtr comebacks before that. Guess you didn’t notice his career made “a turn for the best” well before the Saints game.
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just throwing this out there
But how long of a contract should the front office extend Alex Smith? It’s a no brainer he deserves to come back regardless of what happens on Sunday. He’s earned it. 3, 4, 5 years? 10 million per?
by Ador08 on Jan 16, 2012 2:23 PM PST via mobile reply actions
3-4 years
base salary of 8M per year with reasonable incentives to take it up to 11M a year. How does that sound?
I like 3years with a 4th year option.
That seems like a nice compromise.
by ColoradoNiner on Jan 16, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
SEVEN more years ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
In all seriousness, Alex seems like the kind of guy who’d be a good coach. Or at least, would be sticking around being a mentor, even if he wasn’t starting (or even playing).
Win or lose, at the end of the day I'm just happy to see the Niners play well... Okay, winning is good. I prefer winning.
"Yeah, I do get emotional. It fires me up. It fires me up a lot. I'm not going to apologize for that. If that offends you or anybody else, then so be it." ~ Jim Harbaugh
I prefer "Shawshank" to Cinderella
but I do kind of agree with the critics that to get to this “next stage” people are talking about, he needs to play better.
I mean, the offense was pretty impotent for the entire game outside of the one big early drive and the last 4 minutes.
Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder
by whistlingmountain on Jan 16, 2012 2:30 PM PST reply actions
In Harbaugh’s press conf he said Geep Chryst was calling the plays during the 2 minute drill, he also called ‘The Forgotten Run.’
Worth noting, not sure how I feel about that, but obviously playcalling was only one of the issues during offensive lull.
Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh
Alex showed much more of a willingness to be agressive in the last 4 minutes
I don’t think it had to do with play calling. It was him deciding it was worth the risk.
I think at some point he needs to have that attitude the entire game. It’s worth 1 int if you get 150 more yards of offense, 10-14 more points, and more time of possession.
I said this in another thread, but Alex threw 3 “trust” type throws to Vernon in that game, he almost never throws them and he threw all 3 to the same player. Makes me think he needs a higher level of trust with the other targets to let himself throw the ball and that makes me wonder just how big the injuries to Walker and Morgan have become. ( I myself downplayed the Morgan injury for a long time as I expected Edwards to be on the field regardless of Morgan’s health once Edwards was healthy )
Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder
by whistlingmountain on Jan 16, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
( the three trust patterns were )
the spring up the right with Harper’s back turned
the over the top pass against the blitz
and the TD to Vernon between two defenders at a point where an interception makes him the goat again.
Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder
by whistlingmountain on Jan 16, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
*sprint
Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder
by whistlingmountain on Jan 16, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
Oh I agree with a lot of this.
The staff has never been hiding Alex’s weakness as people continued to assert, it is just a philosophy of taking what you can get until it really matters and you have no other choice.
But yes, at some point I think we’d all like Alex to take a few more risks earlier in the game.
I just thought it was interesting and worth noting the change of playcaller, not that it was the entire difference or even that big of a deal.
Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh
What happens when those fail and you have 5 turnovers in the game
I understand that sometimes, you have to let it fly. Sometimes, you also have to know the situation. This team was built for being careful early and pounding you late.
This team was built for being careful early
I think that’s philosophy more than roster
pounding you late
we rarely did that this year.
It is still amazing to me how misrepresented our running game is. It is not amazing.
Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh
I think it is typically Roman, but Harbaugh has said just about every offensive coach has called a play at some point this year.
Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh
I seem to remember reading
that Chryst was really familiar with the Saints defense and had planned for them specifically with special plays (the Vernon Davis touchdown being one of them). That may have been why he was calling the plays.
From the impression I get from watching press conferences
Each of the coaches have designed plays for specific situations, and when one of those situations comes up, then the coach gets on the headset to Harbaugh and lets him know this is a time to use the play. In the post-Saints game press conference, Harbaugh said the TD to Vernon was called “The Vernon Post” and it was very specific based on what the Saints were setting up — it was “throw to Vernon or throw it away”. Geep Chryst designed that one.
Win or lose, at the end of the day I'm just happy to see the Niners play well... Okay, winning is good. I prefer winning.
"Yeah, I do get emotional. It fires me up. It fires me up a lot. I'm not going to apologize for that. If that offends you or anybody else, then so be it." ~ Jim Harbaugh
Here's what I take away from it
When was the last time you heard Harbaugh took credit for anything? I don’t think I’ve seen/heard it. It’s always “Player did this” or “Coach did this” never “I did this”
THAT’S amazing leadership from the TOP
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I like the Shawshank vs. Cinderella analogy
Shawshank = suffer through a sh**** situation and come out a winner
Cinderalla = personal struggle to overcome inner demons and become access the inner hero
Alex was in Shawshank
That's Fooch's favorite movie too.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 17, 2012 12:13 AM PST up reply actions
Here's a nice article on Smith in the New York Times
Link
Excerpt:
“….This did not surprise Dan Mullen, Smith’s quarterback coach at the University of Utah. Mullen is the last position coach to instruct Smith for more than a single season. Think about that. Since Mullen coached Smith in college, Mullen has switched jobs twice. The quarterback coaches Smith has had during his N.F.L. career have switched jobs after every single season.
Mullen, who had Smith in his wedding party, watched the 49ers game from his office at Mississippi State, where he is the coach. As Smith led one late go-ahead touchdown drive, then another, as he squeezed the final touchdown pass into the smallest window and the hands of tight end Vernon Davis, Mullen jumped up and down in his office. Unfortunately, he was hosting a recruit.
"Thankfully, he had already committed," Mullen said in a telephone interview.
In Smith on Saturday, Mullen saw a pupil who never wavered in commitment. He saw a player he still considers "the best" he has coached.
"He’s one of those guys who’s so cerebral, he invests so much time in thinking about and studying the game," Mullen said. "He could never get comfortable in the N.F.L. with all the change." "
by Mood_Indigo on Jan 16, 2012 2:31 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
Alex Smith earned $6.5 million this yr.
That makes him the Six Million Dollar man. Jim Harbaugh rebuilt him.
by niner52 on Jan 16, 2012 2:32 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
six point five million dollar man....................................
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 16, 2012 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
I thought it was 4 or 5
that means he could argue his market rate on the first few years of his next contract be somewhere around $10. Crazy.
It was, but he earned bonus money for his amount of playing time and for making the playoffs.
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Eleanor Rigby - "Greatest Song" or "The Greatest Song"?
"Sitting on a sofa on a Sunday afternoon..."
Just forget everything except the last 3:43 of the game.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
Why?
You act like he played awful the rest of the game. He didn’t.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
he certainly didn't play well
the offense had 9 drives in a row where the only points they got were from not having to move the ball after the punt return fumble. 9 drives, no points, terrible defense.
The Saints had no business being in the game in the 4th quarter, let alone the 49ers needing a miracle.
And that is not taking away from Alex’s GREAT last 2 drives.
Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder
by whistlingmountain on Jan 16, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
9 drives 3 points(from a fumble)*
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by whistlingmountain on Jan 16, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
That's not ALL on Alex.
He didn’t play as well as he did at the end, sure. Still doesn’t mean he was awful.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
I didn't say he was awful, or that it's all on him
I think Crabtree had a terrible game, Peele is worthless as a receiver, and Williams was damn near invisible. I think they ran the ball well though, and Alex had opportunities to make plays, but he always chose the safe play until the end of the game.
Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder
by whistlingmountain on Jan 16, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
Pretty funny...
Crabs had a bad game. Today I heard a couple national media guys rip him as having bad hands. One game in the spot light that goes bad and the national media just assumes he has bad hands. All year he has been saving Alex with some pretty remarkable catches but the national media didn’t see it. Now he is a “b- reciever with bad hands”
I think crabs is going to bounce back and have a good game against New York.
He has too!
You know that VD will be double covered all game. Crabtree needs to have the same kind of game as Davis or it might be a terrible game on offense.
He's got the mental drops
I think he wants to do to much, especially in big games. Just has to relax and let each play happen.
I think that’s why he does so much better when he gets 10 targets a game, because he feels more comfortable knowing he’s going to make something happen over 10 targets.
Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder
by whistlingmountain on Jan 16, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
agreed...
almost like he wants to score a TD everytime with the limited touches he gets in a game. Instead of just catching the ball first then go get the yac.
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Jan 16, 2012 3:33 PM PST up reply actions
I put that more on the O-Line and WR's
They had a hard time picking up the blitz. Smith was pressured almost every snap. And there were some 1st downs missed by Crabtree.
bad oline for not blocking 7-8 players with only 5-6 blocking!
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 17, 2012 12:40 AM PST up reply actions
after all the "beatings" he (A.Smith) took
the injuries, the non believers against him. he deserves it. most if not all of the players on this team deserve this and more. you can make a case for everyone on this team and why they deserve to win. Gore, J.Smith, VD, Walker (hopefully he comes back), Willis, Akers….. (wish Morgan didnt get hurt) the list goes on and on, i know im missing some players but you get the idea.
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AleX D. Smith
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dude, height=250; put that at the end of your link so it does not take up the whole page please
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 16, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
yep thanks for the tip
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Jan 16, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
TWSS
"And thank you to God for making me an Atheist." - Ricky Gervais
by MichaelClutchtree on Jan 16, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Kyle Williams hit Cameron Jordan hard on alex run play; I am starting to think the second smallest receiver is our best blocking wideout!
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
He de-cleated two Saints in the preseason too.
"It might be time to give Alex some credit, huh?" - Harbaugh
and that stiff arm against st louis safety; i think it was saint louis.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 16, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
This one.
"It might be time to give Alex some credit, huh?" - Harbaugh
by mikeinsp on Jan 16, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
that was freaking awesome; great pic
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 17, 2012 12:41 AM PST up reply actions
2nd best IMO
Josh Morgan, even though he’s hurt. Healthy? Yeah Kyle plays really physical for his size. Great to see.
no; kyle williams. Williams blocked a 30lb lineman right out of the play.
Kyle Williams is even physical for a receiver the size of morgan; Williams stiffed armed a safety right to the turf. Morgan has never done that and Morgan has never blocked a 300lb lineman right out of a play.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 16, 2012 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
That fact that we don't agree
Is awesome! lol there are some selfless WR’s on this team. That will definitely carry over to any other guys we bring in, draft or free agency.
morgan was not selfless until this year
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 16, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
morgan's always been a good blocker
and I’ve never seen him do anything selfish
by Andrew9erfan on Jan 16, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
Including the fact that guys were ripping him
for making it too easy to get Crabtree on the field that first year… “a starter should fight for that spot”… or so the criticism goes.
morgan did a lot of helping Crabtree out
with where to line up and that sort of thing when he was getting started. He’s always been a selfless player.
by Andrew9erfan on Jan 16, 2012 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
like not blockingon on frank gores first fumble last year?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 17, 2012 12:42 AM PST up reply actions
Ted Robinson said Montana was at the game in the stands.
Would’ve loved to see his reaction when Alex threw the TD.
he probably looked like Maiocco
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 16, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
someone posted the picture yesterday and it may be on his twitter.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 16, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
yep dragonflies..
You should watch vid him,mindi bach & ray ratto. He was still in shock & awe after the game, messing up on points trying to make.
http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/ninersvideo?PID=hXWM2-foiot7Szvslp4o8I5gr3kOTmlsyAqJek#
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Jan 16, 2012 5:54 PM PST up reply actions
That's him
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by SportsChicken on Jan 17, 2012 12:16 AM PST up reply actions
I like the dude that is just smiling
Like he knew it was coming
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by SportsChicken on Jan 17, 2012 12:17 AM PST up reply actions
his facial expression was great
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 17, 2012 12:43 AM PST up reply actions
and of course
If you don't like Brandon Medders you're not a true fan.
by wjackalope on Jan 16, 2012 2:42 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
that one is the best!!!
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 16, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
For some fun conversation...If the draft were held today
and this years NFC playoff Q.B.’s …Smith-Rodgers-Brees-Manning-Stafford-Ryan, were your choices to start your franchise, in what order do you place them?
if they all had the niners defense?
I would take Stafford.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 16, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
you have to factor in coaching/play calling and the defense.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 16, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
+1
There’s a lot to be said about a guy who had to go through hell and back to get to where he is. He has a lot of heart.
by agchee on Jan 16, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Stafford
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
also i love how he handles himself win or lose
my brothers and i are going to get some of them blue collar shirts the players sometimes wear made. i need to figure out which player to get. i might have to get a lot of them done.
Coach Harbaugh is the truth!!
More fun.... if the 49ers & Giants W.R.'s were in the draft today
Crabtree-Ginn-Williams,Nicks-Cruz-Manningham…
How would you rank them?
crabtree first round, williams second round and ted ginn jr. 7nth round pick as "wr"
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 16, 2012 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
Cruz
Crabtree
Williams
Nicks
Manningham
Ginn
"It might be time to give Alex some credit, huh?" - Harbaugh
crabtree and wililiams over nicks? really?
"And thank you to God for making me an Atheist." - Ricky Gervais
by MichaelClutchtree on Jan 16, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
Nicks definitely over Williams
Probably over Crabtree as well. I’d go Cruz – Nicks – Crab – Williams – Manningham – Ginn.
I'm just a simple Niners fan trying to make my way in the universe.
by Tim Lincecum's Bong on Jan 16, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
That was my mistake. He should be above Crab and Williams
"It might be time to give Alex some credit, huh?" - Harbaugh
Nicks
Cruz
Crabtree
Williams
Manningham
Ginn
"And thank you to God for making me an Atheist." - Ricky Gervais
by MichaelClutchtree on Jan 16, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
I'd have to go with this....
Crabtree still has a lot to prove…..and I hope it starts in the NFC championship game!
It's hard to say
The Giant’s receivers number’s may be a matter of scheme and the skill of their QB
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
His demeanor has been totally different since Harbs got here...
confident but at the same time always business-like approach to the game on a weekly basis. And the fact of his resilincy to critics is a rare quality for all the years he’s been here!!
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!
So Harbaugh commits to Alex verball
Hands Alex the playbook before he signs
Leaves only a rookie on the roster as the #2 QB
Publicly endorses Alex as his QB
Publicly tells the world Alex is playing at a high level
“How to rebuild a QBs confidence” by Jim Harbaugh
quick, hide the manual from division foes!!
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!
by Kidd2Petrovic on Jan 16, 2012 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
Alex could have possibly been a SEAHAWK !
This past week there was an article going around where Alex Dad was interviewed and at end of last season Alex and his Dad had a chat about if Alex should stay in SF …or consider offers elsewhere.
His Dad gave him some advise about staying or going. Anyways if I read the Dad’s comments correctly one of Alex’s consideration was from the freak’en SEAHAWKS!
Carroll & Alex together in our division….glad that nightmare did not happen.
That chant was embarrassing
It’s one thing if you have a decent back-up, but are part’s of the fan-base so unknowledgable to think David Carr would do any better…every other pass that he threw was a noodle
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
you'll get to see Carr on the giants sidelines.....
don’t see what NY see in him as a backup because they have picked him up twice now. But hey maybe it’s just the incompetent coaching by the 49ers? Highly doubt it though…
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!
by Kidd2Petrovic on Jan 16, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
The only logical answer is that he must be good at interviews
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
he's got dirt on someone in that giant FO...
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!
by Kidd2Petrovic on Jan 16, 2012 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
lol
"And thank you to God for making me an Atheist." - Ricky Gervais
by MichaelClutchtree on Jan 16, 2012 2:58 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
He looks pretty pissed off to be holding that trophy, lol.
Alex Smith went from "We Want Carr!" to "The Catch 3."
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS: WORLD CHAMPIONS!
Regarding Alex Smith doubters: I told you so.
Giants Baseball: Torture. It hurts so good.
by Effage on Jan 16, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The Giants are hot right now
and they have a healthy D-Line and secondary. Everyone is picking the Giants… the Niners D better step up again and stop Eli.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
they will, think all three aspects of the game will step up again in front of the home crowd...
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!
by Kidd2Petrovic on Jan 16, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
I just hope we aren't hungover from this past weekend
I live in CT ( the great suburb of NYC)…I won’t be able to take the Giant’s fans if they win
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
I could really care less about the Giant fans
I am not ready for the 49ers season to end.
Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder
by whistlingmountain on Jan 16, 2012 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
I couldn't really*
Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder
by whistlingmountain on Jan 16, 2012 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
I do expect our defense to take it to the Giants
Hit everything in sight
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Jan 16, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
basically......
set the tone early with……………#Tonymontanasquad
Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!
The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!
by Kidd2Petrovic on Jan 16, 2012 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
Ditto
I live in Hartford and my coworker is a Giant fan we agreed that whoever’s team wins gets to take Monday off. I so do not want to have to work Monday.
by IHavIssues on Jan 16, 2012 8:14 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Imagine how the Giants feel
Remember this is their 2nd game in a row on the road.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 17, 2012 12:20 AM PST up reply actions
Dude on NFL Network just reported that Ginn will be playing on Sunday.
Let's giggity giggity Go 49ers!!!
Hakeem Nicks " We are 60 minuets away from a Super Bowl Dream"
Me thinks the Giants feel they could have won that regular season game against us, and they don’t intend to lose this weekend, period!
Good for them.
Too bad they’re gonna lose again.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
Whenever someone say's "methinks"
I hear Jar Jar Binks
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
A Whole Lot of This!!
@ProFootballWkly: Coach of the year: Harbaugh; DROY: Aldon Smith; Executive of the year: Baalke; Golden Toe: Akers/Lee
DPOY? Record setting?
He had 7.5 sacks and 3 forced fumbles and 46 tackles. All decent #‘s for a D lineman, and he’s a solid and valuable player, but…
I don’t know where the record setting part came in, in terms of numbers he is right around what he averages for a season, but Justin Smith transcends statistics.
Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh
I don't doubt his value to the team exceeds his raw numbers.
He’s a good player. But lots of players value “transcend” stats. J Smith probably wouldn’t be in the top 50 for DPOY, which would make sense since there really isn’t any reason for him to be with in walking distance of the DPOY discussion.
Outside the top 50?
No no no, he’s squarely in the top 10.
Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh
PFF rated him the DPOY
Which you can certainly take with a grain of salt, but saying he isn’t in the top 50 seems like more of your anti-homerism at work. Or you just really don’t understand what he actually does for this defense.
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/01/05/2011-pff-defensive-player-of-the-year/
1. Justin Smith, DE, San Francisco 49ers
So what do we expect from the best defensive player in the NFL? Well first we want to see them on the field; situational players aren’t going to cut it for this award. For any position, never mind a 3-4 end, Smith’s 91.1% of all snaps ticks that box. Next, not only do we want them to be productive, we want them to dominate their position and being a full 14 grading points above the next player is exactly the type of supremacy we need. Thirdly we require balance – it’s all very well being some highly touted pass rusher, logging statistics that are easy to hype, but taking no responsibility as a run defender and rushing into the backfield on every play, like a headless chicken, doesn’t cut it with us. Smith shows that all-round ability by ranking first in our ratings as a pass rusher and fourth versus the run. That’s not to say we don’t like numbers; we love them, but in context and spouting subsets of pass rush data such as sacks is about as facile as it comes in our book. How about this instead; Smith generated 69 quarterback disruptions this year which ranks him joint fourth, not just among 3-4 ends, where he had 15 more than the next guy, but among every position. For someone playing over a guard most of the time that is remarkable. If that isn’t enough, lastly we want game changing plays. We won’t list them all but how about a 285lb player chasing 17 yards back downfield to force a fumble from Jeremy Maclin and preserve a one point lead with 2:06 left in the game?
Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh
He's definately not outside the top 50
that’s an absolute insult to Justin Smith. You say that those numbers are decent for a defensive lineman. You would be correct with that statement IF Justin was a 4-3 lineman. He’s a 3-4 DE and there aren’t any other 3-4 lineman that compare to those stats.
why don't you think he should be within walking distance of the top 50?
Maybe he won’t win, but his impact on the line, getting to quarterback more often than not, generally wreaking havoc. You’re the first person I’ve ever spoken to who has said something like that. I don’t think it’s just a pack mentality to see his impact on a play-by-play basis.
by David Fucillo on Jan 16, 2012 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
I think he is very good and underrated
but D lineman usually need to put up #s to get the award it seems to me. I agree that stats are overrated when assessing defensive players. 50 might have been a stretch, but you get my drift…
I just think...
Considering the media awards these things and there is pretty universal praise from the media about him, I think he has a fighting chance. Normally I’d say flashy numbers can do it (see Dana Stubblefield), but this seems to be a year where the voters are recognizing his impact without those stats.
by David Fucillo on Jan 16, 2012 11:17 PM PST up reply actions
Salary Cap as normal is as far removed from reality
As the Jersey Shore cast dosed on Acid.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 17, 2012 2:09 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
wow, just wow
Maybe Drew is right. You’re either just straight trolling or absolutely clueless about our team and players.
Absolutely , it's just sad that Drew ( pompus a$$ at times ) but well informed is gone ....
… but Mr. Mis-informed … A complete waste of our time — he has no influence whatsoever. For all his misinformed and simplistic slams , if he going to annex, then annex for the right reason. Don’t annex because you were misinformed … I wonder if he realizes he’s totally irrelevant …!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
Single-handedly secured two wins for us this year...
See: Eagles, Philadelphia; Giants, New York.
He won’t get DPOY, but to say that he doesn’t even deserve a sniff at the award is a travesty. The award will go to someone based on stats, but Smith is the most valuable player on the best defense in the league; can’t sleep on that.
by 9thevolution on Jan 17, 2012 8:54 AM PST up reply actions
I knew he had it in him all along
Look at all my posts. He sold me on the comeback win in Seattle to finish the season 7-9 in 2006. I get shit for liking him, and having him as my fantasy football QB every year, but hey it goes with the pride.
SECONDLY, get pumped for next season. Alex Smith is going to light it up. I guarantee it.
I say, if he takes us to the SB he gets a 5 year deal, if he doesn’t 2 years with team option for 3rd. Just to let you know, if you’re a 49er and you’re a member of the team for 10 years, they retire a photo of you. And I believe if that happens, he’s going to have some elite company.
Get in line bro , rite behind me ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
we're gonna have to be better next year
when presumably our TO differential comes back to earth a little.
TO differential
They play a very aggressive style of defense so I’m not sure the interceptions necessarily have to come down much at all. And their fumble recovery numbers do not reflect luck given how many fumbles have been available for pickup.
by David Fucillo on Jan 16, 2012 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
Turnovers tend to fluctuate from year to year because there is a high degree of luck involved.
Our defense definitely helps in creating turnovers but it will be nearly impossible to sustain that amount on a year-to-year basis.
"I believe in you guys in the media. I believe that you will find a way to doubt this team. Just as long as what's written is written against us we'll be happy." - Jim Harbaugh
by SanFranciscoKnights on Jan 16, 2012 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
Amazing what some decent coaching will do for a guy.
Sorry to just barge in here. Couldn’t help but notice the way Alex is playing right now reminds me of Eli circa 2007-08. He looks like he’s turned the proverbial corner.
I’m really looking forward to this game. These teams have had some great playoff battles over the years. I think we’re gonna get another great one here! Old-school smash-mouth football baby!
Team Win Ugly.
ESPN = Everyone Spewing Putrid Nonsense
That’s the thing for a lot of us. I think he’s been staring at that corner a few different times this year, even peaked around it, but to actually step out and go around it on that stage was absolutely huge.
Can’t wait til Sunday…gonna be a LONG week.
Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh
ugh
peeked*
Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh
Yup
Glad your team helped destroyed the myth that defense doesn’t matter anymore.
by mr. instigator on Jan 16, 2012 3:55 PM PST up reply actions
The Giants still have a considerable edge at the QB position
But those 5 minutes have commanded a bit more respect.
Aarong Rodgers is no Alex Smith. ;)
That draft from 2005 doesn’t feel so bad this week, does it?
Alex Smith: Still playing and one of this week’s heroes.
Aaron Rodgers: Cleaned out his locker and sitting at home.
Alex Smith went from "We Want Carr!" to "The Catch 3."
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS: WORLD CHAMPIONS!
Regarding Alex Smith doubters: I told you so.
Giants Baseball: Torture. It hurts so good.
Where did that "g" home from?
Aarong sounds like a monkey or something.
Alex Smith went from "We Want Carr!" to "The Catch 3."
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS: WORLD CHAMPIONS!
Regarding Alex Smith doubters: I told you so.
Giants Baseball: Torture. It hurts so good.
Hahaha
If we had drafted Rodger’s and he didn’t turn out great given the cirumstances and Alex turned out to be great in Green Bay that definitely would of been a common nickname
"Alex Smith has fought through the chaos of SEVEN different O.C.'s...I had trouble with one" -Terry Bradshaw
...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"
by jimisoursavior on Jan 16, 2012 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
Rodgers already won a superbowl....
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 17, 2012 12:23 AM PST up reply actions
Yes, but the current Miss America (Miss Wisconsin) announced on stage for Rodgers to call her...
That’s +1 for Rodgers. For us fans though, I think we’ll take the Lombardi.
by 9thevolution on Jan 17, 2012 9:03 AM PST up reply actions
so theoretically
if Alex leads us to a Superbowl win and Aaron Rodgers never wins another one again does that draft day decision in 2005 get negated???
I think Superbowl wins > putting up hall of famer stats personally.
Got love for the WCC.
if Alex leads us to a Superbowl win and Aaron Rodgers never wins another one again does that draft day decision in 2005 get negated?
no. why would it?
I think Superbowl wins > putting up hall of famer stats personally.
don’t know why judging individual players on team accomplishments with a disregard for personal performance and ability is so often utilized. Dilfer has a SB and Marino and many other great QBs do not. It isn’t evidence that Dilfer is better or that you should want him over others.
I think I probably phrased that wrong
I’m trying to get a feel that if that situation were to play out, would people end that the whole debate that we should have taken Rodgers over Smith.
Got love for the WCC.
by SnakesOnAPlane on Jan 16, 2012 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
Negated?
Do you mean vindicated? I think everyone here is happy for AleX. Tough times never last, tough people do…iron sharpens iron, etc… Overcoming adversity to triumph always makes it that much sweeter in the end. That’s what the Cinderella archetype is all about.
"I pity the fool, and I will destroy any man who tries to take what I got!. You ready? Here come the PAIN."
by whatsURdeal on Jan 16, 2012 5:01 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Reply Fail to SOAP
"I pity the fool, and I will destroy any man who tries to take what I got!. You ready? Here come the PAIN."
WHAT IS WITH ALL THE OFF SEASON TALK???
Can we PLEASE wait until the off season until it is actually the off season? Not good karma.
Enjoy the moment.
Now we can chant "We want Carr!!!!" when the Giants are on offense.
by E-Train on Jan 16, 2012 6:22 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
LOL
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Jan 16, 2012 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
This is an awesome idea
Instead of DE-FENCE… DE-FENCE… A WE WANT CARR chant would completely distract Manning and the Giants. Eli might even laugh thereby throwing off the snap count causing a fumble which is returned by J. Smith for a TD.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 17, 2012 2:19 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Funny you , if there was ever a time to do so , it would be now ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
That would be awesome.
Team Win Ugly.
ESPN = Everyone Spewing Putrid Nonsense
by BleedBigBlue on Jan 17, 2012 7:38 AM PST up reply actions
I don't get all the coversation
the “Alex Smith” movie has already played on TBS like 50 times this weekend. The fact that he’s still willing to play pro ball after becoming a made for tv movie star really says something though.
Alex shutting people up
Good article. Just as you’ll see many people hopping on the Niners bandwagon, you’ll also see a lot of new Alex supporters. I’m proud to say that I subscribed to the theory that he was hamstrung by the revolving door at offensive coordinator and ridiculously conservative playcalling for the majority of his career.
Kudos to Vic Fangio, Greg Roman and of course Jim Harbaugh for getting every drop out of this roster, every week.
Good luck this week men!
I Came, I Saw, I Conquered.
Alex shutting people up
Good article. Just as you’ll see many people hopping on the Niners bandwagon, you’ll also see a lot of new Alex supporters. I’m proud to say that I subscribed to the theory that he was hamstrung by the revolving door at offensive coordinator and ridiculously conservative playcalling for the majority of his career.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/397241-alex-smith-will-be-a-pro-bowler-in-2010
Kudos to Vic Fangio, Greg Roman and of course Jim Harbaugh for getting every drop out of this roster, every week.
Good luck this week men!
I Came, I Saw, I Conquered.
Smtih
I’m proud to say that I subscribed to the theory that he was hamstrung by the revolving door at offensive coordinator and ridiculously conservative playcalling for the majority of his career
Even people who still think this board overrates Smith could acknowledge that Smith was never as bad as his worse moments the first six years.
The facemask change is a subtle aspect that should be mentioned
Having a clearer line of slight would definitely help his decision making. Alex had always been a QB who got in his own way, he would overthink every situation and that aided in some of the mistakes throughout his career. Being able to clearly see the field would alleviate one less thing that Alex had to think bout.
You have to assume that Coach Harbaugh & Coaches Roman and Chryst have preached to Alex to rely on his abilities and to trust his receivers. To make quick decisions
Another year in the same system not only for Alex but the rest of the offensive players and maybe we can see a similar offense to the one we saw in certain instances throughout the year & in the majority of the 1st Quarter & the last 4 minutes of the 4th. VD even said it himself, that it really took the majority of the season for him to become comfortable in the offense, same could be said for players like Goodwin, Crabtree & KW; although Crabs was recovering from an injury & KW needed more playing time
Late to the thread,
but here’s a much better version of Cinderella Man.
“Cinderella Man
Doing what you can
They can’t understand
What it means
Cinderella Man
Hang on to your plans
Try as they might
They cannot steal your dreams".
"Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer "extortion." The "X" makes it sound cool." - Bender Bending Rodriguez
Eleanor Rigby - "Greatest Song" or "The Greatest Song"?
"Sitting on a sofa on a Sunday afternoon..."
As much as great Steve Young was
Let’s not forget he was constantly getting criticized and hated on when Montana was traded to the Chiefs. Then that ’94 Super Bowl happened. And the rest was history.
I believe now it is Alex Smith’s turn to join the ranks…
49ers 2012 Offseason: HELP WANTED at WR, DBs, & O-Line
Who is really Alex Smith
I guess Jim Harbaugh studied carefully A. Smith even before even signing as a 49er coach… To me Jim actually thought he could win big with such a QB after looking at his college history, and it was only a matter of good coaching: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1208/is_47_228/ai_n7579964/
It really looks like what A.Smith has lived these past few months with the 49ers happened the same way when he played in college in Utah years ago!
Haha
Obviously you haven’t watched many 49er games during the Alex era, after his first couple years in the league he developed into a good QB who was constantly facing pressure behind terrible O-line play and no where to deliver the ball to with a pedestrian WR corps. He showed he had talent to play in the NFL without question. The franchise was in disarray and he got dumped into the center of it. His skills were always there, the situation all around him was often very bleak. Because of the fast food/instant gratification mentality that pervades modern society he got a bad reputation and was massacred in the media and by the “fans”. I always stuck with the guy because I can think for myself and assessed that Alex was a pretty good QB in a bad situation. People labeled him a bust because he is in the shadows of guys like Joe Montana and Steve Young and he had previously only played at an average level for the NFL. Now with a good team around him and NFL caliber coaching he’s playing at a super high level. So to answer your question Alex was good, and the QB guru Harbaugh knew it and thought he could take him to a higher level. Awesome story for sure.
A. Smith + tiger blood + Harbaugh = #winning
BTW
I didn’t read that story about Alex as a college player and Harbaugh didn’t need to look back at Alex’s college record because he had plenty of evidence of what Alex could do at the NFL level. Alex had previously played quite well in the NFL at times, he was labeled a bust because he wasn’t the football Jesus a bunch of fans and media hyped him to be since he happened to be the #1 pick in a draft which didn’t have many NFL caliber QBs in it. Perception is reality for a lot of people I guess. Alex performed decent/good with crappy offensive schemes and generally poor talent around him on offense (other than Gore basically). Harbaugh obviously felt he could take Alex’s game to the next level and promptly did so. I personally think it’s more an inditement of just how bad the coaching has been during the Alex era that such huge gains were made so fast in so little time.
A. Smith + tiger blood + Harbaugh = #winning
Sure
For sure I didn’t know about Alex history, I’ve only been following the 49ers for the past 3 years or so (since just before Singletary). And you’re right Jim didn’t need to study much about his past. Still, many fans, opinion leaders, coaches, etc would have not bet on him and rather would have wished to make a more drastic change this year to build a new and successful future, even if they all knew where Alex was coming from. So once again many compliments to Harbaugh and his coaches, whatever the end of the next game/s will be like. And next year, wow, I feel the best moments have yet to come…
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