49ers Vs. Giants: Any Changes From Week Ten?
by David Fucillo on Jan 18, 2012 1:30 PM PST
in 2012 NFL Playoffs
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PrintThe 49ers and Giants squared off two months ago in a Week 10 contest that had its own fairly thrilling finish. Eli Manning and the Giants were driving down the field and had a 2nd and 2 at the 49ers ten yard line before Justin Smith eventually batted down a fourth down pass to claim the victory.
One of the big storylines heading into the week ten contest were some comments regarding Alex Smith's abilities as a quarterback. The Giants loaded up the box against Frank Gore and the rushing attack, and the 49ers countered by opening up the passing attack. Although Alex Smith's 30 passes were not a huge total, he opened the game firing away. On the first drive, Smith completed six of nine passes and Frank Gore rushed twice. For the game, Gore, Hunter and Dixon combined for only 14 carries.
Given Smith's performance last week combined with his work against the Giants in week ten, how different will the Giants approach Alex Smith and the 49ers? After that first game, Frank Gore and Greg Roman both commented about how the Giants went to extreme measures to shut down the run. They did a solid enough job on that, but the 49ers made them pay in the passing game.
How will the Giants game-plan this time around now that Alex Smith isn't just the usual game manager they anticipated two months ago? Part of this will depend on the play-calling. There were stretches where we didn't know what was going on with the play-calling (Frank Gore throwback to Smith?). And then there were moments where the 49ers could do no wrong (last two scoring drives). How the Giants defense comes out against the 49ers and how the 49ers play-calling comes out against the Giants will be intriguing to watch.
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I hope
Alex showed enough to keep them honest so we can get the run going but I guess the weather could be a factor as well
I found a relevant video on youtube:
All 49er Pass Attempts vs. Giants in Week 10. Delanie Walker was heavily involved. It’d be nice to see him back at the ’Stick this weekend.
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yea, Walker was basically unknown to them and came up big
Edwards also had a decent game
They’re really going to need Crabtree to play a good game. A great game if Walker is out.
Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder
by whistlingmountain on Jan 18, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
definitely
having Walker, VD, and Crabs for this game would be huge. No way the Giants can keep 8 or 9 in the box if those three are running free in the secondary.
Walker could be huge this weekend
The touchdown to Vernon in that game just highlights the problems Walker creates. With both of them in the game defenses are forced to respect the run more, so they blitz leaving linebackers and safties trying to cover those two one on one, it’s just a matchup nightmare.
Also they can’t put their 4 DE’s on the field like they love to do, cause it leaves them very vulnerable to Gore gashing their D.
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by BangingHebrew on Jan 18, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
I think they'll do the same
Load the box and hope they don’t get burned by Alex. They may show him a little more respect but not much. Mostly because of the weather though, I hope they back off and give Frank some room to work, I just don’t see it happening.
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Just heard that Eli Manning was sick today with a stomach bug...
Is it time to bust out the “We Want Carr” chants again?
Let the Excuses begin.....
"I pity the fool, and I will destroy any man who tries to take what I got!. You ready? Here come the PAIN."
We need a screen game
Hunter has looked less effective up the middle we need to get that guy in open space
I'd rather they just run at them.
Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder
by whistlingmountain on Jan 18, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
this.
The giants gave up 6.4 yards per carry to the green bay packers, a team that averaged 3.9 yards per carry all season. I have no doubt the 49ers can do better.
Plus, a great way to slow down Osi in the passing game is to send mike iupati to pancake him on running plays.
if it is muddy, then it's 49ers run blocking scheme vs Giants pass rushing DEs and off-the street linebackers
Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder
by whistlingmountain on Jan 18, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
most of that was Rodgers
if you take out him and a 30 yarder when the game was basically over, we held them to 3 ypc w/ 2 fumbles
I was just looking at that
Green Bay RBs ran for 81 on 16 attempts, or about 5 yards per carry. The Packers averaged 4.1 yards a carry from their running backs during the regular season. So yeah, you’re right, taking Rodgers out of the equation makes a difference. The Giants still underperformed the average defensive line against the Packers, but only by about 1 YPC.
Although, maybe we shouldn’t discount Rodgers’ performance since Smith is a pretty good scrambler as well. Giants fans — how has your defense been at stopping QB runs this year? Was the Packers game an anomaly or is this how it played out all season?
I was surprised
Smith’s only attempt wast the touchdown
that was definitely against tendency
Of the non-running QBs (So if you discount Tebow, Newton, and Vick) Alex is fifth in rushing attempts. Harbaugh even had him run the option a few weeks back.
Not just talking about designed runs
but not even a scramble that was just weird with the amount of pressure NO was bringing
It's not that simple
Game plans change. Against the Pack the Giants routinely played with two LB’s and three Safetys and keyed on the passing game.
Against your Niners, it seems likely you will see three LB’s and two Safetys and much more respect and attention paid to the running game.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
Plus Rodgers ran alot for nice gains because we clogged up the routes leaving him room to run
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
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I think they're
a little more wary of our O after we gave Brees the boot; but I don’t know that that’s going to alter their strategy much either way…we still have the best punter in the league who can & WILL consistently pin them deep in their own territory
by Doni S on Jan 18, 2012 1:40 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Agreed. One of my biggest concerns is having long fields
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
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What I keep worrying about is the Niners' intensity and desire to win this game.
It feels like they already proved what they needed to prove by beating the Saints. They can go out there and lose to the Giants, and the season is already an overwhelming success.
I’m just speculating, of course, but is it possible that they may not bring the same hard-hitting, chip-on-their-shoulder mentality against the Giants?
My thinking is that if they don’t bring it, they’ll probably lose. Similarly, if they really still want this, the game is theirs. Overall, they’re a better team.
Same goes for the Super Bowl.
I actually feel the opposite
the first game was the one I was worried about. The nerves for these guys to “arrive” In general I thought the only guy that faltered in the light was Crabtree.
Freddy P Soft isn’t welcome in the locker room, Harbaugh is preaching the ills of thinking you’ll get back here very often or taking it for granted. He only got here once and he lost. They had Spikes last year who has never been to the playoffs. Justin Smith had only been once.
If anything I’m expecting the offense to be a little bit looser for the most part.
Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder
by whistlingmountain on Jan 18, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
totally agree
The 49ers could have gotten complacent after clinching the division, or after Pittsburgh, or after Detroit, or after the Eagles. They didn’t. Harbaugh kept the locker room focused and I expect that he’ll do so again this week.
Plus, this defense never going to take a day off. Donte Whitner is blowing up a cardboard cutout of Brandon Jacobs as we speak.
Freddy Soft
No way Harbs lets this team get complacent. These guys would run through a wall for him and he will have them up to the task.
by Youve been Gored on Jan 18, 2012 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
I cannot even believe that you question the Niners' intensity and desire to win this game.
Are you kidding me? Do you understand how long they have waited for this and how hard they have fought all season, against all odds for this? And then to question their heart? Their hunger and their will is what gives them the edge in this contest IMO. When the field’s wide open, I choose the horse with the biggest heart. My money is on the San Francisco 49ers. Not a doubt in my mind.
"I pity the fool, and I will destroy any man who tries to take what I got!. You ready? Here come the PAIN."
Not sure why you're getting angry
but I hope they’re as angry as you are.
I’m not questioning their heart or their desire to do well. I’m questioning whether they still have a chip on their shoulder, with all of their success. Whether they still have something to prove.
They’ve already proved they’re a great team, a team to be reckoned with, a team you don’t want to play.
Other Niner fans I hear are talking about being worried that the Giants are just a better team, that they’re “hot,” after coming off wins against mistake-prone comparative pushovers. I’m not worried about that at all- the Niners are the better team. 4 regular season wins better. Beating the SAINTS better, when the Saints brought their A-game, while NYG beat a Packers team that didn’t even seem to care they were in the playoffs.
Yeah, the Niners are a GREAT team, and they’ve proved it.
The question is, now what?
Ha ha, no not angry at all bro.
Just intense I guess. (-;
"I pity the fool, and I will destroy any man who tries to take what I got!. You ready? Here come the PAIN."
There is another team
that has alot of heart, confidence, and belief. And they have a chip on their shoulder as well.
I doubt there will be any DESTROYING going on.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
No more score predictions...
I'm not too worried
They didn’t have letdown games after emotional wins again the Lions and Eagles this season. I am 100% confident they will be mentally prepared.
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Jan 18, 2012 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
Giants front seven is healthy again
Which makes me think they won’t commit 9 guys to the run like they did last time. Plus, the 49ers are much more balanced now than they were in week 10. Gore still is going to see his share of 8 man boxes, but nothing crazy like last game.
Also, I think Delanie Walker is a game changer if he plays. The 49ers will need as many dual threat pass catchers/pass protectors as they can get to stop the Giants d-line, and Walker is beast in the run game too. If he ends up being covered by a linebacker, watch out.
Packers were RUSTY!!
I honestly think that’s why the Giants won the game. Rodgers was off they had long 2wks to rest up and the Giants being the opportunistic team that they are capitalized. No Doubt the NINERS will be ready it’s our time we have Arrived!!! Go NINERS!!
by RobNiner on Jan 18, 2012 2:07 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I doubt the unexpected death of their OC's son had a positive impact on them.
"I pity the fool, and I will destroy any man who tries to take what I got!. You ready? Here come the PAIN."
I'm sure it didn't, but the Packers weren't executing at all
Maybe practice got messed up, but it was mostly on the players
There's always an excuse when we win
Packers were rusty…falcons weren’t that good to begin with…romo’s hand was swollen…sanchez sucks…
At what point do we get credit?
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
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by wilddre22 on Jan 19, 2012 7:48 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Not rusty but cocky
Good thing the Packers had those off-season work-outs!!
Running needs to be a lot of traps and draws...
to take advantage of their rush-the-passer mentality on the D-line. Think about Wendell Tyler gashing the Bears in ’84. They were running dives right inside the up-rushing defensive end, sometimes not even bothering to block him, and letting his blood lust take him out of the play.
I can also see a lot of wham blocking on the running plays. The more you beat them up early, the slower they will rush the quarterback later.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Should be mentioned that Gore was hurt last time.
He played, but not well, and not much. That probably forced the Niners to pass even more than they wanted.
Over
I have not read nor heard a single thing about the Giants secondary/corners/linebackers
all I have heard is Tuck, Osemama, JPPenis and all of the other lineman. Does anybody have any insight as to what we can expect from their pass coverage? Not looking for stats here, more their tendencies, coverage patterns, etc.
Let's giggity giggity Go 49ers!!!
by Kittles on Jan 18, 2012 3:45 PM PST via Android app reply actions
Maybe true but we've been playing way above that in the past month plus
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
by wilddre22 on Jan 19, 2012 7:51 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
JPP
Was that really necessary?
Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh
Well when its on your mind you've gotta let it out
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
by wilddre22 on Jan 19, 2012 7:50 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
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