Jim Harbaugh's Mighty Men Rally Around Kyle Williams
by David Fucillo on Jan 23, 2012 6:01 AM PST
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PrintAll season long, Jim Harbaugh has espoused the mantra that the 49ers are loaded up with "mighty men." That has been an oft-repeated slogan throughout the season, primarily due to the players strong performances on the field in getting some pretty huge wins.
However, last night we saw just how mighty these men are as they circled the wagons around wide receiver Kyle Williams. Although Williams' experienced a truly awful evening, his teammates rallied around him after the game with numerous shows of support on twitter and with the media. While it might actually be easy to roll off a few lines about supporting him and this and that, given the nature of this team I don't think there is any BS with these responses.
Williams made some serious strides in his second season and seemed on his way towards making a bit of a leap heading into year three. Unfortunately this performance will hang over his head for the foreseeable future. People have screamed for him to be cut. People have made obscene death threats. It has gotten out of hand on twitter over a guy who 24 hours ago was considered a potentially big part of the 49ers receiving future.
Anger and emotion are to be expected following the performance we saw yesterday. However, as we move forward into the offseason and look ahead to the 2012 season, let's hope Kyle is able to move past this and come back in a big way in 2012. While he had some significant struggles yesterday, he still has some serious skills that could turn him into one heck of a receiving weapon. A full offseason with this playbook could get things going well in the right direction.
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Williams isn't the lone scapegoat
Yeah he had a couple of fumbles, but the difference was still our inability to convert on 3rd down…we were what… 1 for 13 or 14? with our single conversion being the last play in regulation?? If we convert on 3rd and 5 from the 10, we would have been able to punch in 6 and win the game in regulation.
This team needs assistance at the receiver position… 1 catch for 3 yards from all of your receivers is unacceptable.
The way we were running the ball, I was disappointed to see us come out throwing in overtime.
Oh well, terrific season guys, it was a terrific ride and looking forward to next year. Hopefully we avoid any kind of sophmore slump under Harbaugh. Go Niners Go!!
Forgot to add...
I was surprised to not see many screen passes to the RB"s, or heck especially the WR’s, get them involved early in the game, let Williams and Crabtree get some touches.
I never realized how athletic A.Smith was, the couple or running plays that Roman had thrown in there were awesome…. I also like the idea of rolling him out of the pocket, but Smith needs to work on throwing the ball on the run, in stride, where his feet aren’t planted…. the one hoppers and ankle passes to Crabtree in particular were plentiful.
Really excited for next season, and a healthy Josh Morgan at the wideout position… Crabs can still be a decent #2 WR, and I like Williams as a slot receiver. A possession receiver that helps us pick up those 3rd and 8’s would be nice too.
by Mapletreemarty on Jan 23, 2012 6:31 AM PST up reply actions
The Defense Let Down a Tiny Bit at the Very End
If they kick the field goal from where the fumble was recovered it was not a gimme in the swirling wind and rain. They had success running into comfortable position. That surprised me.
defense was probably exhausted
Winning is everything...Losing is not an option...
Section 4, Row 12...last season at The Rock...
Seriously
I was getting tired just yelling for them. They were asked to do way too much.
"Your curses do not compare to those of Houston fans or Detroit fans, and especially not to those of fans from the northside of Chicago. You are not Hamlet. You are Valerie Bertinelli. Your victim act is schlocky, and totally unconvincing. You fancy yourself tormented. You are merely insecure."
-- Scott Burton to Red Sox fans, 6/12/02
http://espn.go.com/magazine/burton_20020612.html
Do not
blame the defense for anything in that game.
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
great game
Guys your defense is just amazing. i hate that people make threats like that. it takes away from the game
by g-men_fan on Jan 23, 2012 6:18 AM PST via mobile reply actions
More than takes away from the game...
It’s an affront to the team and all of their fans. It’s a deranged reaction that speaks of serious mental problems.
Anyway, thanks for chiming in Giants Fan. Good luck in a couple weeks. Yes, good defense but real issues at receiver. Good running game can’t get on track when there’s NO threat on the outside – so the entire offense bogs down.
This is why I love this team...
They stick together no matter what. Win or lose. Good and bad. Epitome of a team. And I love it.
Was I screaming at him when he made those 2 crucial mistakes (and almost 3rd on the muffed reverse)? yes, I was…but i wouldn’t ever take it to the level some of these “fans” took it by calling for his death, and wanting his family to die.
Utlimately, this season is a failure. Every season is if you don’t win a Super Bowl.Yes, this loss hurts… a lot. It was gut wrenching. We became emotionally invested in this team and loved these players. That’s what hurts. Being so close. As a fan it hurts, but I also hurt for the players. They wanted it bad. But I’m DAMN PROUD of this team. They had a hell of a season. Played with all their heart and left everything out on the field. As a fan, that’s all you can ask for.
Winning is everything...Losing is not an option...
Section 4, Row 12...last season at The Rock...
by mills16 on Jan 23, 2012 6:21 AM PST reply actions 5 recs
Anybody who would wish death on anybody over a sporting event and mean it
Isn’t a fan. They are a loser. Simple as that.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
by Blank x2 on Jan 23, 2012 6:27 AM PST via mobile up reply actions 5 recs
Well Stated Sir
Losers. Idiots. And since when does Candlestick have to have undercover cops posing as fans of the opposing team to minimize the harassment? When did Niners Fans become a pack of morons? I’d rather be known as the wine and cheese set than a bunch of idiot thugs.
This season is not a failure
This season has been a smashing success, simply because all of our expectations were tremendously exceeded.
NEXT year, in my opinion, will be a failure if we don’t take the next step and get to the Super Bowl. We have a great team that is only going to get better during the offseason. Now we know what we can do and how far we can go.
Time to take the next step.
Anybody calling for Williams to be cut, and especially those making death threats
Need to grow up. Seriously.
It sucks, but it’s a game. We’ll be back in the thick of things next year, and the years that follow. I hope Kyle is a part of this team next year, and continues to improve.
Another draft and free agency, coupled with an actual offseason, will prove huge for the Niners.
Here’s to a great season, and a better future. Go Niners. Now and forever.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
by Blank x2 on Jan 23, 2012 6:24 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Exactly. Williams helped get the team to this point
And could be a bigger part of this team next year.
He stepped up big time when Morgan went down and Edwards was constantly hurt and then cut. Irrational for people to call for his pink slip and especially for anyone making death threats. He does not deserve that.
Winning is everything...Losing is not an option...
Section 4, Row 12...last season at The Rock...
Yeah, I have nothing against Williams, sure you’re ticked off when the play happens, but it’s just a crappy way to lose a football game.
The post game comments from a bunch of media praising Eli Manning this and that….are you kidding me, were they watching the same 2nd half that we were watching? Sure Eli threw for over 300 yards… but he also threw the ball almost 60 times only completing 55% of his passes or so. We didn’t lose because of Eli.
Terrific 2nd half adjustment by the D to shutdown Cruz.
If Brown doesn’t get knocked out of the game, does Manningham still catch that touchdown?
by Mapletreemarty on Jan 23, 2012 6:36 AM PST up reply actions
it wasn't bad coverage by Brock.
It was just a great catch.
Harbaughcalypse Now
by dutra on Jan 23, 2012 7:03 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
yeah, brock played pretty well in relief
Manning just went bananas on that play. no shame in giving up that TD.
Great throw and great catch
But the safety should’ve had the inside on that route, since Brock was trailing on the outside.
Still, defense isn’t even in that position in the first place without that muffed punt. The defense in the 2nd half was just ridiculous. The defense did its job. Our offense and special teams did not.
by Joe Como on Jan 23, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
There's a big difference between getting cut and a death threat
I don’t know that the coaches can coach stupid out of KW. 4 absolutely bone headed plays.
4?
Two fumbles, I’m assuming the diving catch on a punt return… what’s was the fourth?? Just curious.
by Mapletreemarty on Jan 23, 2012 7:42 AM PST up reply actions
Ahhhhhhhh thanks, I forgot all about that play even. What’s the deal with trying trick plays inside our own 30??
by Mapletreemarty on Jan 23, 2012 7:49 AM PST up reply actions
I'm not gonna lie I called for him to be cut immediately after the game
but that was in the heat of the moment and as far as I went, I hopped on twitter after the game to give him some positive words because I saw all of the ridiculous hate messages he was getting.
"Cruelty, It’s not giving another person what they want. That’s our mindset on defense, to go out and play with everything we have and not give the other team anything." -Patrick Willis
That's precisely what's going to keep this a great team.
That’s why guys will want to come back- because it’s a team, through thick and thin, and they remember that.
Go away with that Crap ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
Stay classy bro , look that up ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
hey edggy....
he can say what he wants on here..you the blog police?
joe montana in the house bitch!!! oh wait that was peter griffin.......
by ninerfan1964 on Jan 23, 2012 8:43 AM PST up reply actions
It's cyber Cop bro , but thanks for playing ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
how is anyone supposed to know it was sarcasm?
Harbaughcalypse Now
by dutra on Jan 23, 2012 7:04 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Watch a movie sometime.
Like I said either you get the joke or you don’t. The original context was from a movie directed toward Dan Marino. Calling for the death of him for something he didn’t do. Not saying Kyle is innocent, just saying that the people saying he needs to die is too emotional and off base. Either you get it or you don’t. Take your frustration out on someone being genuine with their hate instead of someone who is trying to use a laugh to get over a hurtful loss.
lol, I hadn't even looked at the picture!
Sorry, that was pretty funny. We got finkled by Williams!
Harbaughcalypse Now
ha ha
good one
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
Flags Fly Forever
"Orlando before Zod" doesn't have the same nice ring to it.
by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 23, 2012 7:35 AM PST up reply actions
Bad game, Great Season
Yeah, last night’s game was a kick to the junk, but how about these Niners? They clearly don’t have all the pieces in place, but the team is a real threat again.
Now, what are we going to do about a WR going into next season?
by DuckNeck Merton on Jan 23, 2012 6:43 AM PST reply actions
Nice too see the players rally around Kyle , shows Class and a TEAM mentality ...
… It’s just sad that Fans can’t show the same Class … For all the uneducated fans calling for anyone’s head , just think back to the last TEN years , can’t wait for year Two under Harbaugh and company … Great season Niners you made me Proud …!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
SO this.
We are not the Jets. We will bounce back, and do work in the years to come.
Harbaugh did this and met his team what, seven weeks before the start of the season?
Give him and his new family time to work in an offseason. Big things in the years to come.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
by Blank x2 on Jan 23, 2012 6:52 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I had a feeling...
that the team’s lack of depth at the receiver position would hurt in the playoffs. I’m still feeling sick about the loss, but I never expected the Niners to do this well back in September.
Not going to second guess what happened. Giants were, overall, the better team last night. Woulda, coulda, shoulda’s won’t make things better.
Focus on getting key guys re-signed, sign impact free agents and get another crop of players in the draft, and this team will be feared by all next year.
Let’s stay classy, Niner fans. Stop the hating and berating.
It was a tough moment for some of the team
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 23, 2012 6:51 AM PST reply actions
great game and great season 49ers
Fester, give these guys some girls
You PLAY to WIN the GAME.
Dear Tebow, please let the Giants beat the 49ers.
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 23, 2012 6:52 AM PST up reply actions
Simms-McConkey, Ouch
Thanks for the laugh and the girls Giants fan. Much needed and appreciated this morning.
In the end, it is just football
I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!
by Fester McDougal on Jan 23, 2012 7:25 AM PST up reply actions
Dang , that girls got a Butt that starts on Monday and ends on Sunday ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
at work
jerking off
Got love for the WCC.
by SnakesOnAPlane on Jan 23, 2012 6:10 PM PST up reply actions
lol
Needed to see this picture before I went to bed… Whoa
If the 49ers success offends you, so be it." Jim Harbaugh quote... Love It!
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"Cruelty, It’s not giving another person what they want. That’s our mindset on defense, to go out and play with everything we have and not give the other team anything." -Patrick Willis
dang sorry lost my train of thought
"Cruelty, It’s not giving another person what they want. That’s our mindset on defense, to go out and play with everything we have and not give the other team anything." -Patrick Willis
Plenty Of Blame To Spread Around.........
But I question the value of a player that folds under pressure. And I dont think ANY of the 49er WR’s are worth keeping. A really weak link on the team. You cant just continue to throw to VD all the time.
Agent Dunham....Walternate testified that in his universe, AleX Smith is a pro-bowl QB for the Saints, and broke Trent Dilfer's season record of 6000 yards passing. Walter....Thats nice, more LSD please.
by scrappydog on Jan 23, 2012 6:51 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Agreed....And What Else Bothered Me
Williams didnt man-up after the ball hit his knee. He reacted like a pussy.
Agent Dunham....Walternate testified that in his universe, AleX Smith is a pro-bowl QB for the Saints, and broke Trent Dilfer's season record of 6000 yards passing. Walter....Thats nice, more LSD please.
He may not have felt it
Ever occur to you he did not feel it touch him. May have grazed the sock. He would have just let it keep bouncing and not went to get it but I have had that happen it hits your clothing and you don’t feel it.
by seancca on Jan 23, 2012 7:16 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
It didn't just graze him, you could see the ball change direction in the replay...
he new and certaintly felt it.
I’d have to agree… you can see him hesitate as soon as the ball passes by him… it’s like he knew, but wasn’t sure how to react.
by Mapletreemarty on Jan 23, 2012 7:49 AM PST up reply actions
so you have the ability to feel what somebody else feels...?
if you have ever played and been wrapped up and padded, you can’t always feel things touch you
It you ain't going to catch it why would you be so close to it?
"It's impossible to hide the fire inside" - Bob Seger
I'd like to see us make a move in the draft like ATL did last year
We should trade up and draft Blackmon, Floyd, or Jeffery. We need a consistent playmaker on the perimeter when we aren’t running 2 and 3 TE sets. And what a depressing day…I don’t think I will get over this loss. It’s sickening
by rbprat10 on Jan 23, 2012 7:05 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Right , because it bolded so well for the Falcons ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
their defense sucks...ours doesn't
Since you think that was a horrible thought and everyone wants to bitch about our receivers, then what do you suggest that we do? Settle for the 5th or 6th ranked wr on the board
by rbprat10 on Jan 23, 2012 7:22 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Well , their not going to give up 3 picks for ONE player , this much I know , think back about the Two points they scored in the playoffs ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
Seriously?
Harbaugh turned a late round DE into a pretty f’ing good FB. You honestly think he couldn’t do something good with somebody like M. Sanu at WR?
We don’t need one of the top three, tho it would be nice. There are plenty of good WRs coming out it seems….we just desperately need one in one of the first two rounds. First would be best.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
by Blank x2 on Jan 23, 2012 9:55 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
julio jones played really well for them.
i think it worked out fine.
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
I'd rather the 49ers go to free agency
There are at least 10 good to great receivers on the market this year. I hope the team drafts a WR in the second or third to develop, but get someone who can contribute now from free agency.
I would be ecstatic
If we could land a Vincent Jackson, Reggie Wayne, or somebody like that.
Get Morgan back, sign a vet like stated above, and draft at least one. Put them with Crabs and Kyle and lets run with it.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
by Blank x2 on Jan 23, 2012 9:57 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Remember before Ted Ginn?
When we were worried everytime we got punted to? Re-sign that man!
by mountaindew77 on Jan 23, 2012 7:21 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Can They Afford Him To Just Return Kicks?
Because he’s not very good at WR.
Agent Dunham....Walternate testified that in his universe, AleX Smith is a pro-bowl QB for the Saints, and broke Trent Dilfer's season record of 6000 yards passing. Walter....Thats nice, more LSD please.
He's average at WR
He can still step in as a 4th wideout and run a couple deep routes down the seem or some deep posts etc.. He doesn’t have to be a playmaker at WR just take a safety or two with him.
by Mapletreemarty on Jan 23, 2012 7:46 AM PST up reply actions
I don't know how much he's worth on the open market
he’s only a wideout on the 49ers because they lack depth at the position. everywhere else he’s just a returner, and I don’t know how much anyone would pay for that.
they already did
He took a pay cut to stay a Niner during preseason
If the 49ers success offends you, so be it." Jim Harbaugh quote... Love It!
KW knew the pathetic offense couldn’t make a play, so he tried to make one himself.
"And thank you to God for making me an Atheist." - Ricky Gervais
by MichaelClutchtree on Jan 23, 2012 7:28 AM PST reply actions
How many times did Ray Lewis think he would be back to the Superbowl?
This was a huge missed opportunity. I realize people want to look at next year, because this team looks ready to stay on top. But BAL thought the same thing 12 (!) years ago, and they have never been back.
Season to season variation is completely unpredictable, Playoff team turnover year to year is 50%. And it is so hard to get to the Superbowl. We had a golden opportunity, and it got fumbled away.
by uspsuperman on Jan 23, 2012 7:30 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
but it's not hard to have consistent success as a team
This season was the start of something great. The foundation has been set so we have a lot to look forward to. Just look at Pittsburgh and New England in the past 7 or 8 seasons. We will find our way back to the NFC championship before you know it
by rbprat10 on Jan 23, 2012 7:44 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
It won't get any easier
We’ll be in a dogfight to win the division with our schedule and I doubt we’ll be looking at a bye
True
I don’t think the Division is going to be as hard as people think. I believe that we have a great chance of holding on to the division for the next few years atleast. Yeah the playoffs will be tougher without a bye, but you just keep knocking on the door every year and your time will come. I think it is going to be like the 90’s all over again. Keep getting into the playoffs and probably get one shot at the SuperBowl.
You take your opportunities when they come...
because nothing is guaranteed in this league, not even consistent success. Do we have a good team, sure but as we saw this season even good teams aren’t given anything on past merit.
Sure
Definitely a missed opportunity, but I think the 49ers are a playoff team for certain in the coming years. I don’t think our tougher schedule/division will stop us from getting a couple more chances over the next few years.
Our talent level will increase as this front office gets another draft and another offseason. We won a lot of close games this year. Next year, I think we win more blowouts.
Hey wait, isn’t it ironic that Drew Kerr was as high as anyone could be on KW, then this happened after he got banned? Weird…
"And thank you to God for making me an Atheist." - Ricky Gervais
by MichaelClutchtree on Jan 23, 2012 7:31 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
He got banned?
And I have to say: mikev is one of my favorite people on here -slusser
http://freekraut.com
I think I missed that whole convo
I was wondering where he was, but wasnt sure.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
by Blank x2 on Jan 23, 2012 9:59 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
The Team, The Team, The Team
lost because Kyle Williams fumbled twice.
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
Flags Fly Forever
"Orlando before Zod" doesn't have the same nice ring to it.
by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 23, 2012 7:37 AM PST reply actions
Because the wide receivers made 1 catch, the defense couldn’t hold the Giants back, because the offense couldn’t score at the end of the 4th, or in the OT prior..Yeah it’s all on KW
Founder of team Omté Caspeen
he gave them 10 points
they didn’t do anything in the 2nd half offensively except 2 short drives. yeah, there were other problems, but we still would have won if not for losing the turnover battle.
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
Flags Fly Forever
"Orlando before Zod" doesn't have the same nice ring to it.
by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 23, 2012 7:49 AM PST up reply actions
but it’s mostly me being tongue in cheek
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
Flags Fly Forever
"Orlando before Zod" doesn't have the same nice ring to it.
by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 23, 2012 7:52 AM PST up reply actions
Tongue in cheek or not...
Your right and truth hurts. As anemic as our offense was they didn’t cough up points on turnovers to the Giants like Williams did x2’s!
smith had a very mediocre performance for most of the day.
lots of passes thrown too low. over threw some guys who were open.
cant put the blame only on the WRs.
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
As much as our offense struggled
We could have won if he didn’t let the ball hit his knee and didn’t fumble in OT. The ball off his knee led to a touchdown for the lead and the fumble was the FG in OT. We can point fingers at whoever we want, but in the end those 2 plays led to a total of 10 points. If we didn’t fumbe and at least had a chance to punt, the game may have ended differently.
Not to kick a guy when he is down, but this is probably the only time I wouldn’t switch places with a pro athlete.
by SharkKings49 on Jan 23, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
Damn
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs this season, hopefully! :)
you can say that again!
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
Flags Fly Forever
"Orlando before Zod" doesn't have the same nice ring to it.
by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 23, 2012 7:52 AM PST up reply actions
lol was unintentional
But totally suitable. So closeeeeeee – only problem is… we won’t be as successful defensively for a long time… we had a lot of turnovers this season… that doesn’t happen every year.
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs this season, hopefully! :)
Damn
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs this season, hopefully! :)
Damn
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs this season, hopefully! :)
So many great WRs in the league at the moment.
More talent at WR than ever before in the league, just go get one in FA. Bowe is a brilliant number one, plenty of other options too – even Lloyd is a huge upgrade… a HUGE upgrade.
Alex Smith 86%+ QB rating with 22+ TDs this season, hopefully! :)
Agreed, I like Bowe the best for our offense.
other names…DJax, VJax, Steve Johnson, Colston…prolly some others too…Bowe is the best fit. Use our #1 pick on DL (we need more depth and Justin isn’t getting younger).
Yes, Drafting a WR is not the answer
There are so many out there that it makes sense to grab one or two of them. Going to the NFC championship game could help in luring a couple of them our way.
Manningham, Garcon, and Wallace are free agents too
any one of those eight would be a huge upgrade to this receiving corps.
*by the Giants was brutal...
Williams first gaffe led to the overtime and his second cost us the win.
Realize
That the game was a defensive struggle, in the second half the Giants didn’t convert on something like 13 straight 3rd downs. A turnover was what was going to change the game. We got screwed out of the one we created, and then they created a couple which won them the game.
Take away the possession after the muffed punt and the Giants punted 8 times, and only amassed 81 total yards.
by Mapletreemarty on Jan 23, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
I totally underestimated Ted Ginn's worth..my bad.
a healthy Josh Morgan/Braylon Edwards would have done wonders for this offense
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
Just can't watch any football related things now ...
… They were giving Eli so much praise for the Win , just made my stomach turn , granted he took a beating and played tough through-out , but Child Please , they won because of our failure on third downs and and a couple mis-Q’s …!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
Hahah, yeah
The Eli Pout Face.
Win or lose, at the end of the day I'm just happy to see the Niners play well... Okay, winning is good. I prefer winning.
"Yeah, I do get emotional. It fires me up. It fires me up a lot. I'm not going to apologize for that. If that offends you or anybody else, then so be it." ~ Jim Harbaugh
Makes me sick all the Eli talking… we held him to 5.4 Yards/Attempt, his lowest total this season… the only thing we failed to do was to create any turnovers.
by Mapletreemarty on Jan 23, 2012 8:07 AM PST up reply actions
turnovers that counted
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
Flags Fly Forever
"Orlando before Zod" doesn't have the same nice ring to it.
by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 23, 2012 8:09 AM PST up reply actions
Made me frustrated about how close we came to creating turnovers
Win or lose, at the end of the day I'm just happy to see the Niners play well... Okay, winning is good. I prefer winning.
"Yeah, I do get emotional. It fires me up. It fires me up a lot. I'm not going to apologize for that. If that offends you or anybody else, then so be it." ~ Jim Harbaugh
Totally this
I can’t bear reading/watching any NFL news right now. Wasn’t sure if I could even visit Niners Nation today, the wounds are still fresh. It’s comforting to talk about it with you guys, though.
And yes, the Giants didn’t beat us, we lost the game ourselves. Boo.
I did learn one important thing about myself while watching the game yesterday — when the Niners are losing I really shouldn’t be in a bar with a bunch of other drunk people. I was stressing out bad, and there were just too many bandwagon fans in there for me to be able to deal with. I’ll have to remember to not go out the next time the Niners are in the Championship.
Win or lose, at the end of the day I'm just happy to see the Niners play well... Okay, winning is good. I prefer winning.
"Yeah, I do get emotional. It fires me up. It fires me up a lot. I'm not going to apologize for that. If that offends you or anybody else, then so be it." ~ Jim Harbaugh
Sure am glad I don't drink anymore , wouldn't beable to stop until the Draft ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
anybody think that we should try and trade up for Matt Kalil in the draft...?
Matt would help improve the O line, and I trust our staff to find quality receivers in late rounds and FA. with VD DW and healthy returns of Morgan Ginn , and hopefully a healthy Crabtree, and KW in a full preseason. we are not as bad as everybody is making this out to be IMHO
Our OL is fine, we just need to resign Snyder. Besides, highly doubt we trade up.
They will prolly draft a later round interior linemen. They have big $ tied up at T with Staley/Davis/Boone. We also have Kilgore/Person who they must’ve liked to keep on the roster all year.
In my dreams
Carl Nicks signs an affordable contract with the Niners
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Jan 23, 2012 11:00 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
doubtful we'd trade up to the number 2 or 3 spot
it would cost WAY too much.
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
Flags Fly Forever
"Orlando before Zod" doesn't have the same nice ring to it.
by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 23, 2012 9:18 AM PST up reply actions
So i guess im the only one still mad at Kyle?
Everyone so forgiving around here!!! All that hard work all season to come down to that?!?! Yes i know about our offensive woes but thats been us all season!!! Stay close enough within striking range and play MISTAKE free football…execute. Kyle cost us the game no matter how you spin, twist, look at it!!! He cost us a trip to the SB. Do i feel for the kid? Yes, but that dosent change facts!!!
by Frisco_Kid on Jan 23, 2012 8:11 AM PST via mobile reply actions
IM MAD
it was a conspiracy!….williams was playing for the Giants!!!!!!…….he knew that hit his knee…i would have tackled Thomas (NY) before he picked up that ball..it would have been a flag but Culliver could have at least got the ball….did you guys see Culliver’s face, he was pointing at Williams like “WTF ARE YOU DOING, GET THE BALL IT HIT YOU!!!”…………..Fk!
I'm with you
the Niner defense was all time great last night, and it would have been difficult for the Giants to cross midfield in the second half. Williams is a good kid, but he cost the Niners a SB trip.
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
+1
joe montana in the house bitch!!! oh wait that was peter griffin.......
by ninerfan1964 on Jan 23, 2012 8:45 AM PST up reply actions
You're not the only one
I’m sure they’ll give him another chance, but I personally don’t want to see him in a Niner uni again. I don’t want to wonder if this is the play he goes braindead again whenever he touches the ball.
so...every time a player has a bad day we should release him?
give me a break, he’s not even the starting returner and a young player at that. now he has the experience and drive to perform even better
when players have mental errors that cost teams championships
large glowing red flags
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
Nope, just when they're complete morons
Bad plays happen (i.e. the reverse fumble), but then there’s just stupid people being stupid. Picking a ball off the ground vs the Saints, diving for a punt, going for another punt on the ground only to have it bounce of your knee while you pretend it didnt, carrying the ball away from your body in overtime of the NFC championship game….how many plays does it take to realize someone is just plain dumb.
he practices it, has done it in nfl games and played it in college
It’s not like he’s doing it for the first time
I can bet you the Ravens kicker will be cut any day now
Maybe we don’t cut Williams, but I would like him gone by trade. That game will leave a bad impression of him as long as he is on the 49ers, unless he is the main reason that we WIN a superbowl next year.
by SharkKings49 on Jan 23, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
the game will be forever remembered as the Kyle Williams Game
not the offense struggled on 3rd down game
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
Flags Fly Forever
"Orlando before Zod" doesn't have the same nice ring to it.
by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 23, 2012 9:20 AM PST up reply actions
No
I wished he’d own up to more than hide behind the team supports me card. Rodger Craig owned it. It wasn’t I have support and we lost as a team. It was I lost the fumble and failed to support the team.
interceptions!
dont forget the 3 interceptions we should have had, it seemed like our Def was batting it down from each other or running into each other on every interception attempt…i understand the def was being aggressive, its like the football Gods didnt want us to win this one! ((AWESOME SEASON THOUGH))..IT WILL BE TOUGHER next season with better opponents..bring on GB, Saints, Raiders, Balt, Pitts, and NFC East, etc. next year..damn! lol
I Agree
Goldson caused us to drop atleast 2 Interceptions.
Who has it better than us?
by B1GB3N on Jan 23, 2012 8:16 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
people need to stop saying this
He had the better play on the ball than Brown. Goldson might have scared Rogers, but the ball bounced off his hands before contact.
Ted Ginn's injury was big
Didn’t beieve it wouldve played such a big factor in yesterdays game.
Who has it better than us?
by B1GB3N on Jan 23, 2012 8:14 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Anger aside, that comment from SLam's blog...
…posted by cybermaldonado yesterday convinced me Kyle Williams can’t be trusted with the football. For those who missed it, here’s what commenter said back when Williams was originally drafted:
Get ready to have your hearts in your throat whenever Williams is on the field, Niner fans. This dude is so unpredictable and takes crazy chances with the ball. He lacks concentration and drops and fumbles more passes and punt returns in important situations than anyone I’ve ever seen. In fact his very last play of his ASU career was a fumbled punt return in the biggest game of the year vs our rival Univ of AZ. The score was tied just a minute or so on the clock. U of A was punting. Everyone’s thinking o.t.. All he had to do was catch the ball and take a knee or run it a few yards. But no, he wanted to be a hero and already had his mind running up the field before he even caught the ball. It went right through his hands, bounced off his leg and U of A recovered it. They went on to score a FG. Game & season over! Fans left stunned! Williams is very inconsistent. It doesn’t matter if he runs a 4 flat you got to have the ball in your hands first! He can go from hero to zero in 4.3 too.http://www.examiner.com/san-francisco-49ers-in-san-francisco/49ers-use-206th-pick-to-take-wr-kyle-williams-from-arizona-state
Dude showed some promise this year, but I believe what we saw yesterday was the true Kyle Williams.
weaknesses get exploited in the NFL
during the game yesterday, I was thinking that Williams scares the shit out of me on his returns. He just didn’t seem to know what he was doing back there and was gonna F up eventually, and of course, that’s what cost us the game. He dove for one punt. he made fair catches with tons of open field in front of him. then he didn’t get away from the ball on the muff and of course fumbled the game away at the end. I can’t believe we didn’t have any better option. I mean, not having any return man would be a better option. It was Arnaz Battle all over again. ugh.
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
Flags Fly Forever
"Orlando before Zod" doesn't have the same nice ring to it.
by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 23, 2012 9:25 AM PST up reply actions
It is true
That he kept fair-catching punts where the nearest defender was 10+ yards away. It was frustrating. And that diving catch of a punt was a clear warning sign.
Obviously, this guy doesn’t have whatever it is that it takes to be a successful returner. He has the speed and the moves, but those plusses are not outweighed by the minuses. Ball security and field smarts are WAY more important than speed and moves. Even if he’d fair caught every punt, that would’ve been better than those 2 devastating turnovers.
Kid might have a future as a wide receiver, but his career as a returner should be over.
Just wanted to pop in say great season
You guys had a hell of a run and played great ball. Best of all, things are only looking up for you next year!
"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan
just take him off kick returning duties
And I’m ok… Still hurts though
by Clark_Kent on Jan 23, 2012 8:49 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions
wow
Kyle Williams has gotta go.
Who has it better than us?
by B1GB3N on Jan 23, 2012 8:51 AM PST via mobile reply actions
magic season
Too bad a 18 course feast ended with a nauseating s*** sandwich.
But please Nation, remember that anything over .500 would have tasted like caviar just a few months ago. How quickly jaded.
Tired of watching a Great D make it possible for a s*** O to be considered adequate.
Hate the thought of another new OC, BUT got to consider Geep. 1 of 14 on third down means we ARE NOT A SUPER BOWL TEAM!
Most here will bristle, as we were SO close thanks to DEFENSE, BUT we did not deserve to win. I would be much more upset if we had. Now though, I’ll be rooting for Harbs to handle the off season as well as he made 2001 a season that brought us WAY up.
by TheCatch81 on Jan 23, 2012 9:01 AM PST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I would agree with this
We simply did not play well enough to win. If one or two things had gone our way, we could’ve won (the early whistle on the fumble we caused, the obvious KW turnovers), but we didn’t make the plays, plain and simple.
In truth, the 49ers D is elite and will give us a chance in every game. The offense has to up its game and improve so that the difference between winning and losing is not so thin.
I think we’ll be better offensively next year and we’ll have less of these field goal margin, heart attack games and more 10 and 20 point wins.
Who's got it has it better than us?
Well umm…the Giants for one
Much love for kyle williams
Kid had an amazing season. Stepped up big all year for us. He got thrown into a role he usually doesnt handle. Hes a great young player and the real niner fans will support him. He nos wut happened, he feels the dissappointment as well. Any fan who believes he should b cut is ignorant. And any person making death threats is an absolute idiot
by Azemika15 on Jan 23, 2012 10:34 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Great Player??
Please, your assessment of his talents and skill set is so far off base, you have zero credibility. He is an average player at best. Now I blame Brad Seeley more than I do Williams. To say he had an amazing season is a joke and completely inaccurate.
KW
I was mad at him at first, then I was ready to forgive him, then I read this today
@CamInman Kenny Williams says son Kyle may have had shoulder injury in 49ers’ NFC Championship loss
If he comes out and starts making excuses instead of standing up and saying I screwed up, then I will be all for letting him go.
"Cruelty, It’s not giving another person what they want. That’s our mindset on defense, to go out and play with everything we have and not give the other team anything." -Patrick Willis
That sounds like a father trying to protect his son, it don’t think Kyle is going to make excuses for his mistakes.
Win or lose, at the end of the day I'm just happy to see the Niners play well... Okay, winning is good. I prefer winning.
"Yeah, I do get emotional. It fires me up. It fires me up a lot. I'm not going to apologize for that. If that offends you or anybody else, then so be it." ~ Jim Harbaugh
I hope you're right
"Cruelty, It’s not giving another person what they want. That’s our mindset on defense, to go out and play with everything we have and not give the other team anything." -Patrick Willis
you were right
RT @mercbrownie: #49ers Kyle Williams dodged question about shoulder injury, saying that everyone is ‘dinged up’ at this time of year. No excuses, he said.
took a lot of courage for him to stand up in front of the media and talk about everything, I give him major props for that
"Cruelty, It’s not giving another person what they want. That’s our mindset on defense, to go out and play with everything we have and not give the other team anything." -Patrick Willis
So it was a bad shoulder that made him kick a punt?
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Agree with this post, and before I read through the comments I want to say
I was ready to lay blame on Kyle too, after those awful punt returns, and it’s so easy to try to blame it on individuals. But then I remembered that this coaching regime isn’t about finger pointing and throwing people under the bus. That was how things used to be in the locker room, but not this year. Kyle will be held accountable for his mistakes, as will everyone else. (Coaches included.)
I’m still so mad at those mistakes, and how we lost (and we definitely lost the game ourselves). But I won’t participate in the torch-wielding mob any more.
Win or lose, at the end of the day I'm just happy to see the Niners play well... Okay, winning is good. I prefer winning.
"Yeah, I do get emotional. It fires me up. It fires me up a lot. I'm not going to apologize for that. If that offends you or anybody else, then so be it." ~ Jim Harbaugh
I hope some of the older guys talk to Kyle Williams
about getting back on the horse. I think we might have just seen Kyle Williams grow up, although in a rough way.
Get back in there and show everyone what you can do next year, Kyle Williams! That is the true test of a man’s character and abilities.
Niners Nation on the Reservation
kyle
he’s a rookie. blame the coaches for not teaching him how to secure the ball on returns. ted ginn being out is oartly why we lost, at least on special teams. wth happened to our receivers and alex missing simple throws? i knew it would catch up to us. this shows us how eli is in a different league compared to alex. alex had a great season, but this isn’t enough to be the qbotf, and it doesn’t make up for the 7 garbage seasons.
This Is On Seeley
To me, the bigger culprit is Brad Seeley. The most important thing for a coach to do is put his players in a position to succeed. Brad Seeley failed at that miserably. He kept putting Williams out there and it was obvious to everyone in the stadium other than Seeley(were you paying attention?) that Williams had zero confidence in returning punts. He put Williams out there to fail. There is no worse thing that a coach can do to a player. Kendall Hunter was a good punt returner at Oklahoma St and was having a nice game. So Seeley had another option and choked big time. I hope he is having many sleepeless nights. Of course if anyone was looking at him for a head coaching job, that is out the window. When you choke the most important duty of your career, you certainly are not head coaching material.
He did a very find job up until the most important game of his life.
For me personally
Anytime I ever see him on the field again in a 9er uni I’m going to remember this game. Fans won’t forget it and it will continue to haunt him for the rest of his time in SF. I think it’s probably best for him and us to cut bait. I can’t forgive what happened last night. Just can’t do it.
what do you guys think?
might not happen..BUUUTTTTTTT…2 #1 draft picks plus Crabtree for OSU WR JUSTIN BLACKMON to the Rams????…..if that’s an option…i say do it!….((i know it won’t buuut lol))
O " BOY " ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
We need someone BIGGER 6'1 really??? I know the kid is good but
6’4- 6’5 Megatron type guy is what we need
As much as I want to win
NOW I also want this team to be built for the long term and trading away two first rounders and a guy we picked in the first round (who isn’t as bad as people think) for a guy that can only fill one roster spot would be a huge mistake.
u might be right...
buuuutt blackmon in the line up is such a huge plus…speed, size and great route runner!
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