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Official Community Thread [1/25/2012] Is it manly to cry?

Welcome to our twenty-fourth installment of the Ninersnation Community Thread. Here we can go into off-topics such as why is Eli so dorky? Who roots for Eli because he is so dorky? What is the origin of the word dork (oh so dirty)? So now our front page football topics will be about football (strange concept, I know). First rule is, do a fist pump! Second rule is that site decorum is still on. No talk into religion, politics, or dirty dirty. No personal attacks, racism, or sexist remarks. Images are allowed, just be tasteful and pretend Eli is sitting next to you.

This is going to be like the draft threads so we can come back to a discussion so that means REC THIS! That is a good rule of thumb in any situation. So lets have some fun here. The new topic of conversation: We are all still heartbroken and liking our wounds. Some may have cried. So is it manly to cry? We loved it when Vernon did, not so much when Dick Vermeil does, never when Tom Brady does. What is our official stance on tears?



This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.

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Yeah, what happened to Merlin Olsen's threads?

Did he get banned or something?

He was kind of a big deal.

"I put him up against any of the receivers in the league. I can attest to just how hard this man works every single day, and the people of San Francisco really need to appreciate that."
---Kyle Williams

by 10forTech on Jan 25, 2012 10:41 AM PST reply actions  

No one told me

I’m just as surprised. He isn’t banned. Guess he took his ball and went home

by mcwagner on Jan 25, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

he deleted them

apparently Alex Smith paid him a visit and roughed him up a bit.

by mcwagner on Jan 25, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Actually...

Alex DID confront me yesterday…

He came right up to me, and then proceeded to do the following…

—he considered throwing a overhand right but…
—it wasn’t clear if what open so…
—he contemplated throwing a left hook to the body but…
—decided against that ‘cause it wasn’t a sure thing, and then…

And then he ultimately just threw two really weak jabs that were both approximately 2-feet SHORT and 2-feet WIDE of my chin.

Later that night, he called and said he felt bad that hadn’t been able to do a little bit more w/those punches and that he really looked forward to getting a chance to beat the sh*t out of me in 2012…

-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.

by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Jan 26, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

lol rec

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 5, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

must have put a comment in there that he would catch grief for

“Tim Tebow may just be better than John Elway” Oops. Delete the whole thing and hope no one sees that one.

by mcwagner on Jan 25, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.

by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Jan 26, 2012 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

i clean up after myself when i'm done playing

-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.

by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Jan 26, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

and it can be manly to cry...

just not during or because of a football game… not at all.

Google “Nick Montana Crying” and watch the video of Joe’s boy after his 1st College Start. It’s something very much less than impressive…

Perspective… Why is no one helping these young men develop some P-E-R-S-P-E-C-T-I-V-E alont with their athletic ability?

Caring is great, but losing control ala Vernon Davis or T.O. or any number of guys we’ve seen over the course of the years… Any wonder these guys get flagged for Personal Foul Penalties in the biggest games and sometimes at the worst posssible times (among other things, on and off the field)?

I’ll say it again… Easy to be hard (or to lose control because you’re showing how EMOTIONAL you are, how much you care). Hard to be smart (harder to be the guy who cares JUST AS MUCH, but keeps his head, keeps his composure, doesn’t have to be the center of attention and say “Hey! Look at me! See how much I care? I’m CRYING ’cause I care so much!” and ultimately the guy that doesn’t hurt his team by losing control of his emotions)

Or is that too much, too expansive an answer… Was the question more just a shooting-the-bull, give us a “yes/no” answer question? Is this the “Do You Like Tacos and Harry Potter?” kinda’ thread…

-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.

by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Jan 26, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

no, it relates well to the topic

I do like tacos, and dislike Harry Potter. That’s part of the topic that the perspective of when to cry is acceptable. If I get the job I have been working my butt off for, I can be excited and buy a round of drinks. No tears. If I get the job I have been working my butt off for like in “The Pursuit of Happyness” you can cry your eyes out. Maybe John Elway getting the Lombardi finally he had a right to shed a tear but he just neighed.

by mcwagner on Jan 26, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

"...but he just neighted."

lol…

And people say I’m mean…

-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.

by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Jan 26, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

(neighted?)

-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.

by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Jan 26, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

The Man Cry

I think there are probably some rules out there involving the man cry. I’ve got a few things I can chime in with and feel free to let me know what you think. I also feel that there are certain levels of acceptable man cries too.

Acceptable man cries (full blown cry):
Winning the big game (ex. Vernon Davis)
Close relative/friend passing or discussing death of loved one.
Being dumped or left by woman you love. Only acceptable once or twice. After those, move on to “choked up/few tears” man cry.

Choked up, few tears man cry:
Proposing to the love of your life and she says yes, getting married.
Child being born
Child getting married, graduating, etc.
Emotional drunk moment
Major life changing accomplishment that you worked your [site decorum] off to complete.

One tear man cry:
Emotional movies for guys like Old Yeller, Saving Private Ryan, Field of Dreams, Braveheart, etc.
Your team losses a huge game (ex. NFC Championship game the other day)
Visiting places/sites of great emotion (ex. 9/11 ground zero, war memorials)
Being extremely proud of a loved one

Non acceptable man cry:
Chick flicks (ex. The Notebook, Steel Magnolias, etc.)
Getting physically hurt – rub some dirt on it and man up. You aren’t a boy anymore.
Not getting your way – didn’t get the big promotion, woman you want doesn’t want you, frustration. You’re a big boy now. Act like it.

These rules are just a few in my opinion. I’m sure some of you won’t agree and that’s fine. I think there are also certain exceptions to some of these and their levels of severity. Feel free to add to my lists. I’m guessing some of us have broken some of these, myself included, but you can also argue that if no one saw it, it didn’t happen. Every man has that way out.

I'm in love with a man. A man called Harbaugh. Does that make me gay? Am I gay for Harbaugh? You betcha!

by Haggardninja on Jan 25, 2012 11:10 AM PST via mobile reply actions   2 recs

awesome

"Cruelty, It’s not giving another person what they want. That’s our mindset on defense, to go out and play with everything we have and not give the other team anything." -Patrick Willis

by 49erLou on Jan 25, 2012 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

you monster

still acceptable man cry:
Chick flicks. If you don’t cry to The Notebook you are a robot.
Getting physically hurt – You lose a leg, you have a reason to be upset.
Not getting your way – paying $10.50 for a warm Coors is reason to cry if I ever heard one

by mcwagner on Jan 25, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Chick flicks – never acceptable. Ever. I’ve never seen The Notebook myself so I can’t agree with you. You, sir, just lost one of your man cards.
Getting physically hurt – as mentioned, there are slight exceptions. Losing a leg is something to get emotional about. You could classify that as one of the others like losing a loved one.
Paying $10.50 for a warm Coors may be highway robbery but its never ok to physically cry about it. Cry on the inside all you want. As I said, you’re a big boy now. Act like it.

I'm in love with a man. A man called Harbaugh. Does that make me gay? Am I gay for Harbaugh? You betcha!

by Haggardninja on Jan 25, 2012 12:20 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Thank you, sir

Because indeed I, um, ‘welled-up’ a bit watching The Notebook.
You do not ‘lose one of your man cards’…
Unless the commission votes that we both lose them.

Moody and complicated

by FanBelge on Jan 25, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

2-hours sleep in 4-days when you're sick but you're young kids are sicker...

Acceptable to cry, NOT acceptable to move to Portugal……

-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.

by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Jan 26, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with Haggard, crying for the Notebook is not acceptable man behavior.
If I lost my leg I would cry…right before I realized I could sue someone and get some serious dough. Then I would cry happy tears.
Paying 10.50 for a warm Coors is not reason to cry. It is, however, definitely reason to punch someone in the face (which is way more manly).

by madmatt on Jan 26, 2012 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Acceptable.

I'm in love with a man. A man called Harbaugh. Does that make me gay? Am I gay for Harbaugh? You betcha!

by Haggardninja on Jan 25, 2012 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

The ending of "Click"...? Really???

I cried ’cause I was so damn glad it was over……

-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.

by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Jan 26, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

It really wasn't such a great movie and I can hardly stand Adam Sandler

And I’ve never watched it again, but that ending when Sandler is lying in the rain, man I admit I was choking up.

by neder on Jan 26, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

The Sandler movie w/Don Cheadle about a dentist in the aftermath of Sept.11... REIGN ON ME I think it's called.

That one had me cryin’ at times… Good movie.

And the recent one, the Judd Apatow film where he plays a stand-up comic w/a potentially terminal disease (I forget the title), that was good too.

And PUNCH DRUNK LOVE was good… But you’re right, he does also churn out some AWFUL films more often than not.

-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.

by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Jan 26, 2012 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

choked up

End of Field of Dreams when he’s playing catch with his dad.

by David Fucillo on Jan 25, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

The movie thing is flexible between one tear and choked up in my eyes. I would have been more elaborate had I not been at work typing on my phone.

I'm in love with a man. A man called Harbaugh. Does that make me gay? Am I gay for Harbaugh? You betcha!

by Haggardninja on Jan 25, 2012 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

That ^^^

(…sniff…)

-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.

by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Jan 26, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Mrs. Doubtfire

I had to wipe away a tear or two when he gave that speech in court about how much he loved his kids, then the stupid judge disregards it and tells him he is a good actor, which is ironic but that’s beside the point.

by madmatt on Jan 26, 2012 7:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Only one tear for the NFC Championship game?

Sorry, I would bump that up a notch. Either that or punch thru a door or two…

Who's got it better than Honey Badger? Honey Badger don't give a ....

by ak4niner on Jan 25, 2012 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Punch through a door or two

That’s manly. Crying…not so manly. I’m not one to cry about sports. That’s me though. Does that mean I’m not as big of a fan as someone who does cry? Absolutely not. I’ve never physically cried about a team losing but I know some people have and do. I don’t think it’s that manly. Tell me…does this look manly? Should you have a man card taken away for acting like this?

NOT manly

I know this one isn’t a man but just imagine if it was.

Sparkles

I'm in love with a man. A man called Harbaugh. Does that make me gay? Am I gay for Harbaugh? You betcha!

by Haggardninja on Jan 25, 2012 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

If you slept through a playoff game you aren't a true fan...

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Jan 25, 2012 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Indeed

I do also think it’s fake but you get the point.

I'm in love with a man. A man called Harbaugh. Does that make me gay? Am I gay for Harbaugh? You betcha!

by Haggardninja on Jan 25, 2012 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Ya its fake

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Jan 25, 2012 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I still managed to get a chuckle

and forward the links to a packers fan friend of mine.

by Andrew Davidson on Jan 25, 2012 7:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Lion King is tear worthy

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Jan 25, 2012 3:03 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Not for a "Man" it's not...

-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.

by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Jan 26, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

You're telling me you didn't shed a tear during this scene

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXSMYQAfO8k

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Jan 26, 2012 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

lol... Nope. Not a one.

And I am a HUGE MOVIE BUFF w/young kids to boot… I’m an affecionado of EVERYTHING Disney and Pixar and Dreamworks Animation, and all that sh*t! In fact, I have animated movies and animated movie knowlegde falling out of my a$$, nearly 24/7…

I’m sitting here and unknowingly humming the theme-song from freaking BARBIE MERMAIDIA under my breath!!! I can quote you THE ENTIRE MOVIES: from MONSTERS Vs ALIENS and Megamind, to TANGLED (a damn good movie!) and the UPDATED 3D BEAUTY and the BEAST. I’ll regale you w/tales from the new MUPPET MOVIE (wasn’t their a Muppet thread a while back?) and the foibles of those delightfully wonderful (ANNOYING as F***!!!) BERENSTAIN BEARS…

What!!!? What’s going on… Where the F am I? Oh yeah…

Love me some Disney and Pixar animation… LION KING for me though? Totally overrated.

( :-o )

( …yeah, that’s right. OVERRATED! I said it…)

-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.

by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Jan 26, 2012 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

:o

the Lion King is not overrated. Maybe I just liked it because it came out when I little.

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Jan 26, 2012 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

You heard me...

O-V-E-R-R-A-T-E-D… Best thing about that movie? It ultimately led to this line being delivered:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvhf6W1ZIyg

-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.

by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Jan 26, 2012 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Beauty and the Best

by far my favorite Disney movie, followed by Monsters Inc. (can’t wait for the second one). “Be Our Guest” and the song about Gaston(sp?) are two of the best Disney songs ever imo.

by madmatt on Jan 26, 2012 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

WHAT

My list goes. Aladdin, Lion King, Tangled those three movies are the bestest.

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Jan 26, 2012 10:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn't Monsters Inc. a Pixar movie? Regardless it is absolutely great

My top Disney movies would be:

The Jungle Book, The Aristocats, Aladdin. Grew up on those movies.

by neder on Jan 27, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I was caught humming the "I've got a dream" tune

from Tangled at work the other day. Once upon a time the soundtrack my mental radio played was full of “I’m a bad mofo” tunes.

Now that I have 3 kids I’m singing “I’ve got a dream”, the “Street Rat” song from Aladdin, and that silly “Be Our Guest” song from Beauty and the Beast. I don’t get to feel like such a badass anymore.

Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.

by Ougadas on Jan 28, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

"Tangled" was a great movie

The horse was awesome, my favorite character… Very funny. “Tangled” wasn’t just a good KIDS movie, it was a good movie, period.

-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.

by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Jan 31, 2012 2:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Best song is still the GASTON song from B & the B...

-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.

by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Jan 31, 2012 2:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I liked the chameleon the best

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Jan 31, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Ghostbusters

The Stay Puft Marshmallow Man was trying to save everybody and they killed him. Misunderstood to the end…

by mcwagner on Jan 25, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Come to think of it

I’m totally cool with crying in a movie. It’s ok to get emotional when it’s an emotional ending, just don’t cry in a romantic comedy.

by neder on Jan 27, 2012 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

No

It is not even manly to ask if you can. Men don’t ask.

by bignerd on Jan 25, 2012 3:00 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

hah! lol...

-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.

by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Jan 26, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

VD's tears were fake anyway

He claims the moment was so humbling, yet he behaved like it was his first time scoring a TD against the Giants. I’m calling BS on Vernon’s tears, he was just trying his best TO impersonation. Love the guy as a player, but he needs an ego check again (and someone to define humble to him, because he clearly doesn’t understand its meaning).

Fake tears = unnecessary
Real tears = not manly, but it happens (which doesn’t make it right, Nancy)
Causing someone else to cry = that’s when I crying is acceptable

by Andrew Davidson on Jan 25, 2012 4:41 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Are you serious with this post???

Let's giggity giggity Go 49ers!!!

by Kittles on Jan 25, 2012 6:06 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

absolutely not

Well, aside from the VD over celebrating his first TD against the Giants (I thought it lacked composure).

Do I think he faked crying though? Absolutely not.

by Andrew Davidson on Jan 25, 2012 6:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Vernon's still not fully understanding what it takes to not be all-about Vernon...

But he’s certainly turned the corner from where he used to be.

Seems like a pretty good guy and teammate now.

He’ll never truly be great until he LEARNS TO CONTROL HIS EMOTIONS. He hurts the ballclub at times because of them, and he’s probably TOLERATED more than RESPECTED by his teammates as a leader.

-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.

by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Jan 26, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember watching that movie in class on the last day of 2nd grade. I thought it was pretty good back then. Now I kind of agree with you.

I went to see Godzilla in the theater on Memorial Day back when it came out. To this day, it’s the only movie that has made me walk out of the theater before it was over. Soooooo bad.

I'm in love with a man. A man called Harbaugh. Does that make me gay? Am I gay for Harbaugh? You betcha!

by Haggardninja on Jan 26, 2012 10:09 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Turning off is easy. I’ve done that plenty. Actually walking out of a movie theater is something I’ve only done once.

I'm in love with a man. A man called Harbaugh. Does that make me gay? Am I gay for Harbaugh? You betcha!

by Haggardninja on Jan 26, 2012 12:15 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

On the inside I did. On the inside…

I'm in love with a man. A man called Harbaugh. Does that make me gay? Am I gay for Harbaugh? You betcha!

by Haggardninja on Jan 26, 2012 6:57 PM PST up reply actions  

crying is not antithetical to "manliness"

when the crying occurs over a loss of life, family hardships, child birth, love (to a woman, friend, offspring or pet), etc….

…but crying when your team loses is strike one towards losing man card.

by salary_cap on Jan 26, 2012 3:04 PM PST reply actions  

man card

The use of man card has always struck me as a little ridiculous. Especially when Miller Light tries to equate not drinking their beer with not being a man.

by David Fucillo on Jan 26, 2012 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

good point

when I think drinking Miller Light is how one loses their “man card” to begin with…I’ll just say that crying when your team loses should be handled like one should handle their religious views: it’s unfortunate that one has them, but if you do, do it in private and keep it to yourself so as to maintain some level of respectability.

by salary_cap on Jan 26, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

agree

I have shed a tear related to sports but I don’t think it’s ever been in front of people.

by David Fucillo on Jan 26, 2012 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I just noticed something

No crying when your team loses (except in private if I’m reading it right), but crying about love for a pet?

by David Fucillo on Jan 26, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

C'mon... KIDS cry when their team loses.

If you’re crying when the 49ers lose as an adult…

You SERIOUSLY need a dose of perspective, and perhaps a good hard slap in the face.

(Not really kidding all that much, either…)

-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.

by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Jan 26, 2012 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

perspective?

I’m curious how crying over a loss means perspective is needed? Maybe it’s a little melodramatic, but people release emotion in different ways. Now, if somebody says a football loss is the worst thing that ever happened to them, then yes they need some perspective. But the simple physical/emotional reaction of crying does not mean they don’t have perspective of the broader picture.

I’ll be perfectly honest. After the loss I wrote up the recap of the game and was sending out some tweets when I briefly got choked up about the loss. The loss was not the end of the world or the worst thing ever, but given the time I’ve invested in this and how closely I’ve followed the team, it’s an emotional investment and not some kind of psychological problem.

by David Fucillo on Jan 26, 2012 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

But the simple physical/emotional reaction of crying does not mean they don’t have perspective of the broader picture.

Joking aside… And much respect to you for being honest about your reaction to the game. That kind of honesty is MANLY, to say the least.

I would soften my position and say that I don’t think that crying after a loss like Sunday’s necessarily means a person has (to quote salar_cap) “emotional and psychological problems”. That’s far to broad.

What I would theorize is that it says quite a bit about where a person might be in their life and their attachments/responsibilities to things outside of themselves.

Keep in mind the difficulty in keeping a statement like that from being ridiculously broad and easy to misinterpret in this type of forum. I don’t mean to characterize you or anyone as selfish and/or without responsibilities for taking care of others, etc. I don’t know any of you. I don’t know your lives.

But I’m not guessing many people who are affected to such a degree emotionally by a simple football game have children… I’m not guessing they’ve had a personally had a life-threatening illness. Not guessing they have a high-pressured job where the safety and welfare of other people is on the line on a daily basis.

Things like that… Generalizing, of course. But I’d imagine, true more often than not.

And if they DO have those things and they still react that way…? Well then yeah, then that’s where I’d jump in and agree w/salary_cap about the “emotional and psychological” problems.

(be advised… I am aware how poorly this will probably read. But many of you here are SMART, try to respond to my POINT and don’t nitpick it to death… It’s not like I’;m gonna edit it before hitting ‘POST’)

-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.

by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Jan 26, 2012 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I get the basic point...

But I also think even things like the length of a given emotional reaction can impact it. I think a quick emotional moment is one thing while going into a lengthy depression is another entirely.

I think the context of the reaction makes it impossible to say what’s manly and what’s unmanly because like you said, most of us really don’t know much about anybody else on this site. Everybody has their own personal context in life that impacts how they respond to things. I’ve spent the last five years writing about this team every day and since the end of the lockout, it’s been nonstop. I think for me it was a combination of the game and the emotional exhaustion of the last six months.

by David Fucillo on Jan 26, 2012 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Very good point, Dave... Hadn't considered that.

Your personal involvement w/the 49ers FAR supercedes any of my lifelong involvement, experience or knowledge, for instance…

No matter what any of us feel, most of us DON’T make a living being involved w/the 49ers and the NFL. You do. It’s your job. I’d hope you’d be INVESTED in your job emotionally, to a degree. That means you DO care. So many people DON’T have any emotional attachment to their work, so many don’t LIKE what they do.

So yeah… You shedding a tear or two. I get that now. You’ve a lot more INVESTED in the 49ers than most of us.

The rest of you who were crying, though…?

Yer an embarassing bunch of NANCIES…!

( ;-D )

-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.

by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Jan 26, 2012 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

crying over a beloved pet

isn’t particularly manly either, but it isn’t the red flag that the other is. At least witha pet, you have a real, mutual relationship witha living creatur where it is perfectly healthy (albeit not too manly) shed tears. But crying over a team losing can be indicative of unmanliness as well as some deeper emotional and psychological problems.

by salary_cap on Jan 26, 2012 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

what he said ^^^

-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.

by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Jan 26, 2012 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I realize this is a manly man discussion

and I have no skin in the game (terrible pun I know), however, the topic of pets compels me to speak out. If a man is not broken up about the loss of his pet, especially if it’s been a long time companion, I would be running far far away and quickly. Just sayin’.

by McTee on Jan 26, 2012 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

pets

I don’t think it was death of a pet. It was next to love of a pet.

by David Fucillo on Jan 26, 2012 8:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay

Nevermind then. Why would someone cry over love of a pet, unless it was in duress or near death or something. Guess my mind just assumed too much. Your lawyer mind keeps it simple.

by McTee on Jan 26, 2012 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Talking about pets. Does anyone ever cry when the pet dies in a movie or a book?

I was reading where the Red Fern grows and my dog likes to sit next to me when I’m sitting on the floor. So I read that book the entire time with my dog. So when the end came around I was like :o then :’(.

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Jan 26, 2012 10:46 PM PST up reply actions  

The love of a pet reminds me of this old story

When I was living in Switzerland, I enjoyed hiking in the Swiss Alps. Past Engleberg, there is this one rock formation indented into the mountain near a waterfall that looks like a hoof print. The story of how that came about revolves around the “love” of a pet.
There was a lonely farmer that lived on this mountain and tended to some goats. Now there was this one goat that was more special than all the others. He loved this goat. It was very important to him. He loved the goat so much that he had it babtized.
Well, it is not a good thing to babtize animals. So a demon rose up to take the goat away from the farmer. I forget why, but apparently there was another goat, or a ram, that was pretty stout and knocked the demon into the water (the Patrick Willis of goats evidently). The demon shrieked with pain and jumped out of the water, planted his foot (hoof?) into the mountain and sprang away leaving the indent.
Then something bad happened to the farmer too. I forget what but it was bad. The story originated in the middle ages and therefore, pretty strict on animal love and what have you.
I hope this helps. Maybe the farmer cried at some point because the ram stole his goat. This is essentially the premise to “The Notebook” only with goats and demons…

by mcwagner on Jan 26, 2012 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

You lived in switzerland?

Why haven’t we heard of this

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Jan 26, 2012 11:42 PM PST up reply actions  

do you have any other interesting facts?

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Jan 29, 2012 10:44 PM PST up reply actions  

nice

me too. sometimes

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Jan 31, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually that was a pretty funny pun.

And just to add, I cried once for a pet. My dog got into a fight with another dog, a much smaller and aggressive little thing that attacked him, and my dog almost killed him. I thought I was going to have to put him down. Sad day. Turned out I didn’t have to put him down which was cool.

by madmatt on Jan 26, 2012 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Hope it was prior to your 21st birthday... ;-D

-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.

by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Jan 26, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

So, how much did you pay for those beads?

Who's got it better than Honey Badger? Honey Badger don't give a ....

by ak4niner on Jan 28, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Manly or not

I have learned from experience that when the lady folk see a man get emotional enough to cry (assuming he doesn’t do it often), it can work out in his favor, if you know what I mean. ;)

by madmatt on Jan 26, 2012 8:53 PM PST reply actions  

oh yeah, I know exactly what you mean...

Women are suckers for crying guys. Why, just the other day after I cried the girl just got up and let me have the last seat on the bus.

by mcwagner on Jan 26, 2012 11:01 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Alright, I'm just gonna come right out and ask the question that nobody seems to be asking right now...

Who the [site decorum] is Merlin Olsen?

[disclaimer: this poster has no idea what the hell he's talking about.]

I has a sad. Its name is Eugene Amano.

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 27, 2012 2:32 AM PST reply actions  

Merlin Olsen

Hall of Fame defensive linemen for the Rams. Part of the Fearsome Foursome with Deacon Jones. One of the best. Later became a broadcaster

by mcwagner on Jan 27, 2012 4:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, a little before my time.

[disclaimer: this poster has no idea what the hell he's talking about.]

I has a sad. Its name is Eugene Amano.

The Official MCM Idiot

by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 27, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

He's one of Ron Burgandy's good friends...

-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.

by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Jan 27, 2012 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Reason when it's ok to shed a tear.

During the animal cruelty commercials. It’s like their sole purpose is to make me be depressed.

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Jan 27, 2012 11:33 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

You should change the channel. The Sarah McLachlan music alone is enough to make me cry in pain. Those commercials really piss me off.

I'm in love with a man. A man called Harbaugh. Does that make me gay? Am I gay for Harbaugh? You betcha!

by Haggardninja on Jan 28, 2012 6:33 AM PST up reply actions  

add it to the list

animal abuse commercials…

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Jan 28, 2012 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

You know what I do?

I pretend that the commercial is showing me a bunch of cute animals. Then I’m okay.

[disclaimer: this poster has no idea what the hell he's talking about.]

I has a sad. Its name is Eugene Amano.

The Official MCM Idiot

by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 28, 2012 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

But its a bunch of cute animals crying with depressing music in the background

I just play with my doggie when I see that commercial.

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Jan 28, 2012 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I HATE those commercials

I think people who abuse animals should be locked up with a rampaging Suh. After that we can let Willis and Smith and co. show them the error of their ways.

Who's got it better than Honey Badger? Honey Badger don't give a ....

by ak4niner on Jan 28, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

list?

Sophie’s Choice
Its a Wonderful Life
Field of Dreams
Schindler’s List
Forrest Gump
The Never Ending Story (horse scene)

by mcwagner on Jan 28, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

below

-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.

by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Jan 28, 2012 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Field of Dreams

“Hey Dad… Wanna’ have a catch?”

Gets me every time…

-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.

by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Jan 28, 2012 4:26 PM PST reply actions  

Come on! Eli is the man!

Kicking ass and taking names….

I got a GIF for that!
Giants by 17 over GB, take it to the bank!
Giants by 10 over SF, take it to the bank! Well, OK, by 3, but we are Super Bowl bound!!!!!!!

by Fester McDougal on Jan 29, 2012 2:08 PM PST reply actions  

you know what bugs me

When the iPhone app doesn’t load all of the comments.

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Jan 30, 2012 9:02 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

I've had some trouble with the app as well

sometimes it just straight up doesn’t load the site at all which is very annoying.

by KGboomer on Jan 30, 2012 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

That never happens to me anymore.

Once I updated my phone I had to delete the app then install it again. Now it works really well.

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Jan 30, 2012 1:45 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I feel like I should

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Jan 31, 2012 7:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m going to drink beer and eat food and occasionally glance at the TV. I think I’m less interested in the Super Bowl this year than I was last year. I really, really hate Green Bay and the Steelers. That was the worst possible matchup for my taste out of all the playoff teams last year.

I'm in love with a man. A man called Harbaugh. Does that make me gay? Am I gay for Harbaugh? You betcha!

by Haggardninja on Feb 1, 2012 12:15 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

solution

have the playoffs. If the Super Bowl is not the matchup that is desired, have the two teams be the winner and then have the Super Bowl proper matchup to compete for third place. Take away fan voting for the probowl to make it legit. Introduce fan voting for the Super Bowl Halftime show to make it legit

by mcwagner on Feb 1, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm still in denial

I’d rather watch the puppy bowl this year.

by KGboomer on Feb 2, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I am really torn about it, to be honest

At first I didn’t think I want to watch but after I recovered from the loss I figured I should cause it will be a good game.

Thing is, it starts at 3AM over here, which means if I watch it I’ll be missing a day of school, which means lots of material to catch up with.

So:
Super Bowl > Day of school
Or
Super Bowl < Day of school

by neder on Feb 3, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Anyone else have a man only in underwear and a ski mask as the ad on the sides of NN all day today? Weird….I know there’s a way to block them but not sure exactly what it is.

by KGboomer on Feb 2, 2012 7:39 PM PST reply actions  

I dpm

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Feb 2, 2012 8:40 PM PST up reply actions  

uuuummmm......

huh? I have no idea what that means.

by KGboomer on Feb 2, 2012 11:12 PM PST up reply actions  

stupid NN crashed when I was doing it.

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Feb 3, 2012 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I have an ochem midterm tomorrow :(

And the superbowl is on today. #firstworldproblems

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Feb 5, 2012 11:29 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

it won't be any good anyway.

But don’t miss the halftime show.

I missed Janette Jackson’s wardrobe malfunction and I’ve regretted it ever since.

"It all depends on the quarterback."
---Jerry Rice

by 10forTech on Feb 5, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

google it

but I dislike the halftime shows.

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Feb 5, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Woah

You were right. That’s the first time I’ve seen it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtiZdrJvZt4

"It all depends on the quarterback."
---Jerry Rice

by 10forTech on Feb 5, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Are you being sarcastic?

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Feb 5, 2012 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

No, I'm serious. Why do you ask?

"It all depends on the quarterback."
---Jerry Rice

by 10forTech on Feb 5, 2012 7:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Just thought that my comment was a little obvious

So I was expecting anything.

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Feb 6, 2012 8:25 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

god damnit

the sarcasm font doesn’t happen on the app…

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Feb 6, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Hi community thread. This title makes me happy because I just started watching Community and it's awesome.

I also just launched my new music site, Out of Treble. It’s just got a couple posts up right now and they’re essentially un-edited, but I am looking for some feedback as I tweak the site. It’s got a Twitter here. What ya’ll think?

And then God created Saturn ... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it. ... Always a ninja
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by James Brady on Feb 7, 2012 10:30 AM PST reply actions  

You know they canceled that show...

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Feb 7, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

No they haven't

And then God created Saturn ... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it. ... Always a ninja
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by James Brady on Feb 7, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

they have

unless they brought it back…

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Feb 7, 2012 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

It's not cancelled. It was never cancelled.

It’s just not part of the midseason lineup.

And then God created Saturn ... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it. ... Always a ninja
Out of Treble | Twitter

by James Brady on Feb 7, 2012 7:48 PM PST up reply actions  

OH THANK GOD

I thought it was canceled I shed a tear about it

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Feb 7, 2012 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the site looks great

I’ve followed the Twitter account already but have only checked out the site just now.

I think it’s a great idea and as I said the site looks very good. I’ll definitely pay attention to the hi-fi reviews when they come out, as while I don’t have any idea about anything in that area, I do enjoy a good pair of headphones. I don’t invest too much money in headphones but I really do enjoy doing some research and finding a good pair.

Hope that was useful!

by neder on Feb 7, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks much.

In regards to the headphones stuff, I plan on having a buying guide in five or six separate parts. Basically what to avoid, what to look for, what actually helps the sound the best, etc. I was going to have recommendations for each price range.

And then God created Saturn ... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it. ... Always a ninja
Out of Treble | Twitter

by James Brady on Feb 7, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

would love to see said guide

I cant afford beats by dre or anything of that caliber, but I still feel shafted when I buy 20$ headphones and they are pieces of…yeah

by KGboomer on Feb 7, 2012 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah I've heard that before

I was just saying I can’t afford that high of a priced pair right now and don’t know the names of any other ones.

by KGboomer on Feb 7, 2012 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

ya I need to buy a new pair of headphones too

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Feb 7, 2012 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Alex needs a wife like Gisele would make post game stories much more interesting

As Bundchen walked from her luxury box to an elevator with Vince Wilfork’s wife, someone yelled, “Eli rules! Eli owns your husband!” Her response?

“You [have] to catch the ball when you’re supposed to catch the ball,” she snapped back. “My husband cannot [expletive] throw the ball and catch the ball at the same time. I can’t believe they dropped the ball so many times.”

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Feb 7, 2012 6:22 PM PST reply actions  

Sometimes I wish I was rich

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=888068

And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman

by manraj7 on Feb 8, 2012 10:07 AM PST reply actions  

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