Indianapolis Colts Hire Chuck Pagano, Oakland Raiders Hired Dennis Allen

by David Fucillo on Jan 25, 2012 2:05 PM PST in Jim Harbaugh 49ers Coaching Staff

As the NFL moves towards its conclusion with the Super Bowl in a week and a half, teams with fired coaches have moved to wrap up their coaching hires. The latest news indicates the Indianapolis Colts have hired Ravens DC Chuck Pagano while the Oakland Raiders have hired Broncos DC Dennis Allen. They join Jeff Fisher (Rams), Joe Philbin (Dolphins), Romeo Crennel (Chiefs) and Mike Mularkey (Jaguars) as "new" head coaches in 2012.

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are still looking for a new coach but seem to be nearing finalists, with no 49ers candidates mentioned among them. The Colts were reportedly going to interview special teams coordinator Brad Seely, but whether they did or not, he would seem to be off the list. Offensive coordinator Greg Roman interviewed for the Penn State job, but that also went to another person.

As we move towards the 2012 season, much of the coaching staff looks like it will be retained. There is a chance an assistant could try to get a promotion into an OC or DC position with one of these new staffs, but there is no news to indicate that is happening at this point. The 49ers coaching staff had some downs to go with a lot of ups in 2011, but the team is moving in the right direction. Give this group a full offseason to work together and I can't help but be optimistic moving forward.

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VERY happy we keep Seely for now...

"We ask no quarter, we give no quarter" - Jim Harbaugh

by Method24 on Jan 25, 2012 2:19 PM PST reply actions

If this were facebook, I would like this!

by SH0ck-D on Jan 25, 2012 2:25 PM PST reply actions

Really glad it looks like we can keep Roman & Seely

But as a Stanford & Andrew luck fan, I’m concerned for his future. Ravens defensive coordinators hired as head coaches have a nasty history of ruining 1st round quarterbacks.

Alex Smith went from "We Want Carr!" to "The Run" and "The Catch 3."
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS: WORLD CHAMPIONS!
Jim Harbaugh and Alex Smith are our future!
Giants Baseball: Torture. It hurts so good.

by Effage on Jan 25, 2012 2:26 PM PST reply actions

ROman? Why would be thrilled about keeping him? It's either he or Alex, that scfrewed the pooch on saturday, take your pick.

"What the hell are you mixing in that look-aid"

by rlott#42 on Jan 25, 2012 2:34 PM PST up reply actions

Oh come on.

“Shut your f’ing pie hole. Or if you prefer cake, shut your f’ing cake hole.” (<-Joke, lol) ^5 to anyone that names that reference.

But in all seriousness, they didn’t screw the pooch. Kyle Williams dropped two punts that led to 10 of the Giants 20 points. For those not good at math, that is 50% of New York’s scoring. Nuff said.

Alex Smith went from "We Want Carr!" to "The Run" and "The Catch 3."
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS: WORLD CHAMPIONS!
Jim Harbaugh and Alex Smith are our future!
Giants Baseball: Torture. It hurts so good.

by Effage on Jan 25, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions

if we would've scored a TD or a FG in the final two minutes

then Kyle Williams wouldn’t have fumbled the ball. The offense had plenty of opportunities to put the game away and they didn’t.

Rule #1) If you hate Joe Buck, watch this www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkCSZKbyL94

Rule #2) Follow rule #1

by mtl9ers14 on Jan 25, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions

but the offense didn't fumble the ball

by that logic, maybe you should be blaming Goldson for breaking up Tarrell Brown and Carlos Rogers’ interceptions.

by reedkrase on Jan 25, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions

Shoulda coulda woulda

If Kyle Williams doesn’t make a blunder I would expect a Pop Warner player to avoid, the Giants never score their 2nd touchdown and the 49ers win that game in regulation.

Sure, in theory the 49ers could have overcome his blunders, but the reality is they did take the lead in the 2nd half (2nd TD pass to Davis), and they lost said lead because of Williams’ idiotic blunder. Maybe as it stands this team wasn’t good enough to overcome those flaws, but they had the game and Williams blew it.

Alex Smith went from "We Want Carr!" to "The Run" and "The Catch 3."
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS: WORLD CHAMPIONS!
Jim Harbaugh and Alex Smith are our future!
Giants Baseball: Torture. It hurts so good.

by Effage on Jan 25, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs

It's easy to make one guy a scapegoat

If Williams didn’t turn that over, 49ers still wouldn’t have won. No 3rd down conversion. Alex would not have miraculously convert on third down all of a sudden to win the game.

Before the half, with 2 minutes remaining, 49ers chose to run out the clock. Giants got the ball back and drove for 3 points.

It’s easy to have 6 come from behind victory if your defense keep the other team from scoring more than 14 points a game. 75% of the QB in this league can come from by scoring 15 or more 6 times in a 16 game season. It’s not that impressive when you think about how many points he needed for the come from behind victory.

200 yards a game is not that impressive. Turning the ball over 5 times is impressive. That is what you’re getting by paying Alex Smith 8-11 million a year—a low turnover average QB.

Pull the trigger, Alex. Not everyone can be as wide open as Vernon Davis.

by cyph on Jan 25, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs

It isn't about ease. Its about reality.

Trying to blame anyone OTHER than Williams for that loss is missing the point. Yeah, I see all the flaws that could have led to a 49ers victory (especially the 3rd down conversion rate) but you’re totally kidding yourself if you’re blaming that. They went 13-3 and won a playoff game in spite of terrible 3rd down conversion rates. What bit them? Losing the turnover battle.

Alex Smith went from "We Want Carr!" to "The Run" and "The Catch 3."
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS: WORLD CHAMPIONS!
Jim Harbaugh and Alex Smith are our future!
Giants Baseball: Torture. It hurts so good.

by Effage on Jan 25, 2012 11:00 PM PST up reply actions

To pin the loss on one player is idiotic

Whose to say that the offense would’ve actually scored points with that possession. The way the offense was playing they would’ve been just as efficient if they punted on first down. We should never have gone to overtime with the amount of chances we had to put the game away in the 4th quarter

Rule #1) If you hate Joe Buck, watch this www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkCSZKbyL94

Rule #2) Follow rule #1

by mtl9ers14 on Jan 25, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs

It isn't idiotic when that player made 2 mistakes that led to 50% of the opponents scoring.

In fact, if anything is idiotic it is overlooking the facts: Williams’ two turnovers occurred when the 49ers had the lead, and both turnovers led to the Giants taking the lead. If you aren’t blaming WIlliams, you’re blaming the defense for giving up points on a short field. The 49ers offense wasn’t great, but yard for yard and point for point they hung in there with the Giants. The 49ers offense played well enough to put the team in the lead twice in the game, and also tied the game late. They also never turned the ball over.

I won’t “disown” Williams like many people, but anyone saying he didn’t cost the team a Superbowl appearance is completely delusional.

Alex Smith went from "We Want Carr!" to "The Run" and "The Catch 3."
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS: WORLD CHAMPIONS!
Jim Harbaugh and Alex Smith are our future!
Giants Baseball: Torture. It hurts so good.

by Effage on Jan 25, 2012 11:05 PM PST up reply actions

Move on we can't bring it back it happened its over time to focus on

making this team a " dynasty "we have a group of young talented players n i’m sure they hurt more than we do although some would argue that.If your not careful you could let something like this affect your personal lives we should be thankful for the gift of " life "n stop letting this hard loss which it is turn us bitter like some of those 49er fans on twitter wow talking about disrespectful,ive always had a problem with these people who get all tough on their computer because more than half of them wouldn’t walk up on theses athletes n disrespect them n their family to their face.Ive lived that life n its not a good life ive watched alot of my friends die or go 2 jail.It hurts hell yea that loss hurts espcially a loss like that hurts but thats all it is a loss a game n life is to precious to sit around every day pissed because were not playing in the super-bowl.This team our team has " heart "from the coach all the way down so i know we will be back there n this time we will finish our buisness it just wasn’t our time n i know we don’t want 2 hear that sh!t i don’t want to hear it but its all we got right now.I say that because i love niners nation but i was really emberassed as a 49er fan for what happened on twitter i know i didn’t do it but 2 hear show after show on espn talking about " 49er fans "making death threats i always felt 49er fans was a notch above joe schmo whos a philly fan or a jets fan but 49er fans sending death threats now i know nothing would really happen to kyle its just the point that they went there.can we please move on!!!!

by Jayubb415rebirth on Jan 25, 2012 3:57 PM PST up reply actions

I have moved on

I’m simply pointing out reality. People trying to deflect blame from Williams are being ridiculous. He doesn’t deserve hate (and God knows he doesn’t deserve death threats) but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t hold the largest share of blame for this loss.

But anyway, I’m very excited about this team. All in all, this was an amazing season, and its only the beginning of something great.

Alex Smith went from "We Want Carr!" to "The Run" and "The Catch 3."
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS: WORLD CHAMPIONS!
Jim Harbaugh and Alex Smith are our future!
Giants Baseball: Torture. It hurts so good.

by Effage on Jan 25, 2012 11:08 PM PST up reply actions

I'm not trying to deflect the blame from Williams

I’m trying to point out that not all the blame should be directed at him because the offense had plenty of opportunities to put the game away and they didn’t.

Rule #1) If you hate Joe Buck, watch this www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkCSZKbyL94

Rule #2) Follow rule #1

by mtl9ers14 on Jan 25, 2012 11:17 PM PST up reply actions

That's fine

And I do agree with your point, but I find it asinine to point those other things out when Williams blunders were so critical, and the first was inexcusable. Also, neither offense was capable of “putting the game away.” The defenses dominated the 2nd half. Given the 49ers 2nd touchdown that gave them the lead, that WOULD have put the game away if it weren’t for Williams. The 49ers defense was truly dominant in that 2nd half.

Alex Smith went from "We Want Carr!" to "The Run" and "The Catch 3."
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS: WORLD CHAMPIONS!
Jim Harbaugh and Alex Smith are our future!
Giants Baseball: Torture. It hurts so good.

by Effage on Jan 26, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions

That in Q4

made me want to diarrhea in my living room.

by Leon Sphinx on Jan 25, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions

Yea its time 2 move on that goes for " everybody "lets even lay off the kyle BS to

honestly some 49er fans should be emberassed for how the carried thereselves giving death threats saying they wish his family would die are you kidding me over " GAME "a game ladies n gentlmen a game.So lets all move on n start thinking about our off-season thank you!!!!

by Jayubb415rebirth on Jan 25, 2012 3:06 PM PST up reply actions

Wow...good thing we hired Harbaugh before these other H/C jobs opened up.

and very THANKFUL Harbaugh did not stay in college with Luck.

Think about it….the Colts could have had both Harbaugh & Luck.

by BigMar on Jan 25, 2012 2:30 PM PST reply actions

Now that i think about it....

for conversation sake…if the 49ers had to chose between Hiring Harbaugh, or drafting Luck, what would have been the decision, Harbaugh as H/C or Luck as Q.B.?

by BigMar on Jan 25, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions

Based off what I know right now.....Harbaugh

He brought us to the cusp of a Superbowl in just a year and made the team relevant again. Give me the question again in a few years and I may change my answer if Luck turns into what everyone thinks he will.

"We ask no quarter, we give no quarter" - Jim Harbaugh

by Method24 on Jan 25, 2012 2:35 PM PST up reply actions

You sure have a supposition about you don't you ...!!

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!

by Edggy on Jan 25, 2012 9:07 PM PST up reply actions

I'm very thankul for harbaugh honestly it does make this off-season a little better

idk if peoeple fail to see were looking at a dynasty with our core players on both sides off/def so i’m exscited to see who add aint ya’ll?

by Jayubb415rebirth on Jan 25, 2012 3:16 PM PST up reply actions

I hope that outside of Bobby Ingram leaving there are more changes to the staff

At least for one more season so that this group of players get a true offseason with this staff and they can bring the next class of draftees can be molded in the 49ers way

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by Lok on Jan 25, 2012 2:31 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions

*no more

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by Lok on Jan 25, 2012 2:31 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions

They've been through that before, the one contant, Alex Smith has too. There wasn't much improvement either.

"What the hell are you mixing in that look-aid"

by rlott#42 on Jan 25, 2012 2:35 PM PST up reply actions

curious

how do people around here feel about the Rams hiring Fisher? Does this make people nervous since they had a good core going before all those injuries?

by KGboomer on Jan 25, 2012 2:40 PM PST reply actions

I'm more concerned with the good core than Fisher.

I’m iffy on Fisher being that good.

Who's got it better than Honey Badger? Honey Badger don't give a ....

by ak4niner on Jan 25, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions

Not worried.

Yes he is the model of stability but that’s all his teams have ever been, either average or above average. Never anything great.

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by afrikabamboodle on Jan 25, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions

They'll eventually be mildly competetive

But I don’t foresee any of these NFC West teams leapfrogging the 49ers.

Alex Smith went from "We Want Carr!" to "The Run" and "The Catch 3."
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS: WORLD CHAMPIONS!
Jim Harbaugh and Alex Smith are our future!
Giants Baseball: Torture. It hurts so good.

by Effage on Jan 25, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions

interesting

I agree that no one is leapfrogging the Niners next year, I think one or two of them (actually think theyve all got the same chance to) will step up and atleast be some competition next year. I’m thinking there will be more than one winning record in the NFC west in 2012

by KGboomer on Jan 25, 2012 3:15 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions

That would be great to see

Earn a little more respectability in the NFC West by having more teams with winning records. Plus, it’ll be more interesting when there’s bigger competition.

"Yeah, I do get emotional. It fires me up. It fires me up a lot. I'm not going to apologize for that. If that offends you or anybody else, then so be it." ~ Jim Harbaugh

by El Dorado on Jan 25, 2012 7:52 PM PST up reply actions

Yeah

I’ve had this feeling for a while now, and it seems to be becoming more clear to me: I think the 49ers next year will be a better team (and likely more dangerous in the post-season, assuming fair health), but I think they will have fewer wins in the regular season. There are multiple reasons for this theory:

1) The division is strengthening, as I think the Rams & Cardinals take a step forward.
2) The schedule is going to be a division winning schedule, meaning we face division winners. That will be a stiff challenge.
3) I just can’t foresee the team accomplishing the same kind of turnover differential. General odds and the history of the NFL says this will take a step back.

With those factors said, I think this team will be better capable of overcoming obstacles due to an improved offense. I really think Harbaugh & Co. will push this team (particularly offense) closer to greatness. Alex Smith himself has never had this kind of opportunity. Speaking of which, I think Smith to Davis is going to be truly explosive next season. Pro Bowl caliber (again, assuming health), especially Davis.

This team will still be a 10+ win team (11-5 or 12-4 are roughly what I foresee), and I do think they’ll be in the positive in turnover differential, but I’m not so sure the defense forces another 38, and I think the offense will be more aggressive… gaining more yards and scoring more points, but also taking more chances and turning it over a bit more. I sort of went on a tangent here, lol.

Alex Smith went from "We Want Carr!" to "The Run" and "The Catch 3."
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS: WORLD CHAMPIONS!
Jim Harbaugh and Alex Smith are our future!
Giants Baseball: Torture. It hurts so good.

by Effage on Jan 26, 2012 3:29 PM PST up reply actions

You mean we're going to have the same coaches two years in a row?

That’s just not fair to the rest of the league

by reedkrase on Jan 25, 2012 2:50 PM PST reply actions 3 recs

lol

I no rite

Alex Smith went from "We Want Carr!" to "The Run" and "The Catch 3."
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS: WORLD CHAMPIONS!
Jim Harbaugh and Alex Smith are our future!
Giants Baseball: Torture. It hurts so good.

by Effage on Jan 25, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions

I can't wait for a double reverse toss in blizzard conditions next year

by asmithisaverage on Jan 25, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions

you're predicting a blizzard in San Francisco?

now that’s just crazy talk.

by reedkrase on Jan 25, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions

I can't to see the look on your face when Alex is starting again ...!!

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!

by Edggy on Jan 25, 2012 9:14 PM PST up reply actions

When I picture that I'm hearing the fumble sound from Tecmo Superbowl in my head.

~~boing~~ boingboing- ~~buhboing~~

Alex Smith went from "We Want Carr!" to "The Run" and "The Catch 3."
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS: WORLD CHAMPIONS!
Jim Harbaugh and Alex Smith are our future!
Giants Baseball: Torture. It hurts so good.

by Effage on Jan 25, 2012 11:10 PM PST up reply actions