49ers Roster: Pre-Free Agency Depth Chart
Yesterday afternoon I wondered over to 49ers.com to check out something on the 49ers roster and noticed they had switched everybody over to the active roster. They no longer list players on the practice squad or on injured reserve. Rather, every player is listed as active. This includes all potential free agents, who technically remain under a sort of team control until the start of the new year.
Once free agency and the draft happen, we spend much of the offseason breaking down the roster and trying to figure out various permutations of the 53-man roster and the practice squad. Given the quantity of 49ers free agents this year, I thought I'd put together the current depth chart based on the existing roster, minus all impending free agents. The only exceptions are Tramaine Brock and Will Tukuafu. They are listed as exclusive rights free agents which means they have to sign the contract the 49ers give them or sit out of the NFL.
Some of the recent Future/Reserve contract guys are listed at tackle or linebacker or safety, and I just sort of slotted them in somewhere. While several of the names after the jump will not make the final 53-man roster in seven months, there are some intriguing talents that could make for some intriguing training camp battles. WR Dontavia Bogan and CB Curtis Holcomb are both extremely intriguing coming off season-ending injuries in 2011. Both have been rehabbing all season long and just based off their comments on twitter, they are already pumped for training camp.
Of course, with this kind of breakdown, for some of these guys it reminds me of a classic scene from Major League (not the best quality).
OFFENSE
QB: Colin Kaepernick, Scott Tolzien
RB: Frank Gore, Kendall Hunter, Anthony Dixon
FB: Bruce Miller
WR: Michael Crabtree, Dontavia Bogan, Kyle Nelson
WR: Kyle Williams, Joe Hastings
TE: Vernon Davis, Delanie Walker, Nate Byham, Konrad Reuland
LT: Joe Staley, Alex Boone
LG: Mike Iupati
C: Jonathan Goodwin, Chase Beeler
RG: Daniel Kilgore
RT: Anthony Davis, Mike Person, Derek Hall
DEFENSE
LDE: Ray McDonald, Demarcus Dobbs
NT: Isaac Sopoaga, Ian Williams
RDE: Justin Smith, Ricky Jean Francois, Will Tukuafu
ILB: NaVorro Bowman, Mike Wilhoite
ILB: Patrick Willis
OLB: Parys Haralson
OLB: Aldon Smith
CB: Tarell Brown, Tramaine Brock, Cory Nelms
CB: Chris Culliver, Shawntae Spencer, Curtis Holcomb
FS: Colin Jones, Mark LeGree
SS: Donte Whitner
SPECIAL TEAMS
K: David Akers
P: Andy Lee
LOS: Brian Jennings
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Do you think Spencer will stick around?
I read somewhere on here that he wants out of SF, given the way it played out for him here this year, its not a suprise, he wants to play but doesnt seem to fit in the 49ers plans very well.
by 49ersfanFURlife on Jan 27, 2012 8:40 AM PST reply actions
Doubt it
He’s getting $3.3m, a lot of $ for a 3rd CB. 49ers would want him to restructure, and he wants to start.
Right
But he is facing a lot of young competition for the spot. And IMO CB is an area we need to address early on in the draft, does he really have a chance to start here?
by 49ersfanFURlife on Jan 27, 2012 9:09 AM PST up reply actions
Why do you think we need to address it early?
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by manraj7 on Jan 27, 2012 9:29 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
We ranked 16th on Defense in Passing Yards
WR should be our top priority, but IMO the Defense is one solid CB away from going from the middle of the pack, to the top. Keep Rogers and get a young guy early or another solid young veteran (unlikely) and that would make this Defense an even greater nightmare for opposing offenses when they’re having trouble passing after we’ve already shut down their running game. It would be a truly ELITE Defense with improved pass coverage.
by 49ersfanFURlife on Jan 27, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions
I think our safety play was a bigger problem than our CB play
Too high risk, high reward. We were very solid on short/middle passes, horrible on big plays.
We were not
as bad as everyone thinks vs. the big play t-12 in 20+ yrd plays with 48 and only 12 40+ yard plays bottom1/3 but not horrible the longest play against us in the passing game was 77 yards but no td geuss who?? btw the patriots gave up 79 20+ yarders lol
We get thrown at 36.2 times per game
Of course teams are going to rack up passing yards on us.
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This
Because we stop the run so well and early, all of our pass defense numbers are going to be inflated
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Inflated or not,
We still gave up a good amount of completions, almost 21 a game which is around the middle of the pack. Bottom line is, If they improve coverage they will limit completions and force the opponents to punt more often, and that would bring those passing yards down. Improved effeciency in pass defense will get them off the field more often, keeping them fresh and getting the ball back in the hands of the offense.
by 49ersfanFURlife on Jan 27, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
completions are going to happen when teams trow 40+ times every game
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How many points are scored per comlpetion ...!!
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lol
not much
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 27, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
considering they only gave up 3 TD's on the ground
and 20 TD’s passing, it seems obvious where we need to improve
by 49ersfanFURlife on Jan 27, 2012 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
horrible having the best defense in the league
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 27, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
4th best actually
improve the pass defense from 16th to say…top 5…then they’d be the best. And the reason why the points per completion is low is because opponents pass so often, as has been mentioned repeatedly on this thread.
by 49ersfanFURlife on Jan 27, 2012 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
we ranked 10th in YPA
and 8th in completion %
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We also gave up
the 6th least pass tds that seems pretty good to me. who cares about yards this was the number *2 scoring defense period.
stopping the run game
because 3 TDs is too much…
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Only too you, One plus Td per game is pretty good I'm thinkin" ...!!
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That is pretty good!
But it could still be better :)
by 49ersfanFURlife on Jan 27, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
Just trying to keep it Real ...
… and what is Real , is this Team played great in year One under Harb’s and company and if they can keep most of the puzzle together I am way excited for year Two …!!
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I appreciate it,
I looked at the numbers for the run game as well. Points per rush was 0.06! I hope they can be as good against the run next year as they were this year.
by 49ersfanFURlife on Jan 27, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
and while we're on stats,
any idea how many times we let opponents get a first down one third downs through the air? I cant seem to find it.
by 49ersfanFURlife on Jan 27, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
passes defended is the key stat
Rogers was tied 5th in the NFL and Brown was tied 13th. Goldson had the 3rd most of FS. That says a lot about their proficiency in coverage.
I'm sorry
But the defense is not “middle of the pack”
I assume (and hope) you mean just the pass defense as opposed to the entire unit. But to be fair, as mentioned numerous times, pass yards against us is an inflated number. Opposing teams could not run at all, and we’re usually throwing due to being behind.
I agree CB should be addressed, but not as urgently as you think. WR, OL and OLB seem like more urgent needs to me. We need a starter or two at WR, somebody opposite Aldon, and we need help on the OL. I think Rogers and Culliver could be a nice 1-2 next year, if Cully can overtake Brown. And I’d take Tarrell Brown and Tremaine Brock as 3-4 CBs to enter next year.
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by Blank x2 on Jan 27, 2012 10:06 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
+1
Ahmad Brooks is more urgent by far that Goldson
Absolutely not....
Did you look at the depth chart? You realize it has out starting FS pegged as a guy who was listed as a WR in our last game? Goldson is probably the most important FA we have; which is why he’ll get the franchise tag.
by 9thevolution on Jan 27, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
Bingo ...!!
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disagree - kind of
I think Brooks would be harder to replace in the FA and draft than Goldson. We could let both Goldson and R. Smith go and then pick up a decent FS in the FA and draft Markelle Martin in the second round.
Yes I only meant the pass defense
And i noticed you left Spencer off your list. I agree we need WR help, ideally they would sign a solid FA and get one through the draft as well. I expected more from Brooks this year, and i agree we need another Aldon Smith on the opposite side. But 3rd round is still early IMO and would be a good place to take a CB if a good CB where available. And I understand the numbers are inflated because our run defense is so stout, but my point is that if we improved our secondary coverage skills it would make the defense better as a whole because our pass rushers would have more time to get to the QB.
by 49ersfanFURlife on Jan 27, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
Never judge a defense by how many yards they give up per game.
It’s one of the stupidest ways to evaluate.
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by mikeinsp on Jan 27, 2012 4:13 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Also
We’ll be going up against teams that have multiple proven threats with their WR’s and TE’s, improving the CB play is going to be essential to stopping those potent passing attacks.
by 49ersfanFURlife on Jan 27, 2012 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
this.
Next season, the 49ers are going to need to have the secondary playing as good as they were in the playoffs. An early round pick at DB would be a huge help next season, plus a smart investment given how questionable the reserves at safety and cornerback are.
Seriously, does anyone want to see Brock, Nelms, Spencer, Holcomb, Jones, or Legee on defense next year? A few of those guys are interesting prospects, but they would get killed if they started in 2011. It’s a miracle the 49ers didn’t lose any of their starting DBs to injury this year.
by ninerspride on Jan 27, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed,
and while I appreciate what Spencer has done for the team over the years, I don’t think he’ll come back next season. And i would only want to see any of the other DB’s you mentioned as a back up option in case the starter gets hurt. Teams know they’re going to have extreme difficulty running the ball on this defense. Knowing that, they’re more likely to pass the ball more often because THEY CAN. Our team needs to address that before the season starts to stop the problem before it starts. Next years schedule is looking a lot tougher than this past year in terms of passing attacks we’ll be facing.
by 49ersfanFURlife on Jan 27, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
Related question: do the 49ers re-sign Goldson?
I hope we take the same approach as last year. If he wants to sign a cheap deal, great. But if he wants Pro Bowl type money, we move on. He’s OK, but takes too many risks and bad angles imo. Between him and Whitner, we gave up way too many big plays this year.
I think we should
Yes he gave up some big plays, but he’s a hard hitting ball hawk. With a full offseason to work on drills, I think he can overcome the coverage and assisgnment issues he had this year. We need a lock down coverage corner for sure though, whether its draft or FA, it should get addressed.
by 49ersfanFURlife on Jan 27, 2012 9:11 AM PST up reply actions
He has had offseasons before
It’s not like he’s a rookie.
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by manraj7 on Jan 27, 2012 9:28 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
right, but not with this defensive scheme
Vic said it himself that the Defensive playbook HAD to be smaller in order to work this year, that means we still have plenty for the guys to work on with this coaching staff which is far and above our previous coaching staffs. With a full offseason to work on it, the playbook on defense would be completely opened up, giving our guys a chance to have even greater success then they had this past year.
by 49ersfanFURlife on Jan 27, 2012 9:43 AM PST up reply actions
But Goldson has ALWAYS had these problems
These don’t seem like scheme problems, these seem like personnel problems.
Then lets switch it up
move Goldson to SS in place of Whitner, but keep Whitner around for depth and other coverage schemes and bring in a young stud with great coverage ability and some tackeling skills. We keep the ball hawk and hard hitter in Goldson and if he doesnt come through on the play we could have the new FS to pick him up.
by 49ersfanFURlife on Jan 27, 2012 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
Taking angles has always been basic geometry and algebra.
No coach is going to make things any different.
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We should definite try to resign him, or at the least franchise him.
If for no other reason, I’ve been under the impression there isn’t a lot of options at FS this year, and few are at his level.
If there is a better alternative, I’d take that, I just don’t know that any exists right now. FA and the draft seem awful thin at FS.
Anybody know either way?
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by Blank x2 on Jan 27, 2012 10:08 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
there's nobody available in this draft or FA that will be an upgrade.
That’s why I think the best option is to franchise him this year and if there’s still no upgrade next season, negotiate a 2-3 year deal.
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i like this plan
The 49ers can pick up a safety in the second or third rounds this year, and hope he’s ready to play by 2013. If not, they can negotiate a longer contract with Goldson.
by ninerspride on Jan 27, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
so he needs geometry teacher?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 27, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
yes
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and an algebra teacher
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maybe Whitner could hook him up with someone from San Jose?
by 49ersfanFURlife on Jan 27, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
maybe
he can enroll in classes too
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Spencer will be gone and I'm fine with that
Yeah, I’m pretty sure he will be out.
by Liquid Pantyhose on Jan 27, 2012 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
Grant?
Hope I got the name right. Where is Willis’s backup on here? Is he a free agent?
by Frederick Sparks III on Jan 27, 2012 8:48 AM PST reply actions
restricted free agent, so if someone signs him we get an additional draft pick
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 27, 2012 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
wouldn't we have to tender him first?
Would be shocked if the FO didn’t
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why would they not?
a 1.5 million tender would qualify for a second round comp pick?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 27, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
yes it would
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We need a Jackson at WR
V-Jax or DeSean would really transform this offense. Would be almost impossible to double cover Vernon in that scenario, Crabtree would go from being a terrible, slow #1 to a halfway decent #2/slot guy, and Gore/Hunter would face far fewer 8-9 in the box scenarios. And Walker would be covered by ILBs and linemen.
We really need a true #1 WR, and given that they take time to develop, I for one would prefer we acquire one rather than draft one. There seems likely to be a surplus of #1 WRs this year (Santonio might also be cheap), and while they all come with a bit of prima donna problems, Harbaugh should be able to fix that, at least enough for a Super Bowl or two.
Holmes is not a FA and Jets' owner said he will be with team next year
by 9thevolution on Jan 27, 2012 9:04 AM PST up reply actions
I said "cheap"
I didn’t say he was a FA. I’m following the Jets closely, and I think they will have to move one of Holmes or Sanchez. Given Holmes’s rep, I think the Jets might move him cheaply.
If you recall
The Jets got him for a 5th rounder. I would say given all the media reports, that price is probably cheaper today.
If you follow the Jets
Then you saw that dudes attitude and baggage.
No thank you. Harbaugh can fix personal issues to make it work, but the man is not a miracle worker.
Not a fan of D-Jax either, but I’d sign him to a stupid deal before I even thought about acquiring Santonio Holmes. Too much to deal with.
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by Blank x2 on Jan 27, 2012 10:10 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Well then I hope they move Sanchez...
because he was bad enough this year with receiving targets and they would be unloading his best receiver.
by 9thevolution on Jan 27, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
I just watched some tape of Alshon Jeffery
For what it’s worth, that guy looks like a great fit for our system, and for our often-erratic QB (6’4", and great hands).
I’d love for the Niners to make a run at Bowe (VJax is probably not going anywhere, and Holmes & DJax would be headaches), but I’d also be fine with drafting for depth at WR.
Ultra-projectable
I feel like I want to rage. Right now.
I watch a lot of SEC football being here where I live.
Alston Jeffrey would be a great pick, I just honestly don’t think he’ll be there at #30. I would be estatic to get him tho. Dudes a beast.
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by Blank x2 on Jan 27, 2012 10:12 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
It would be nice to get a proven WR
but I dont think its worth the headache. You’re right that we need WR help in order to transform this offense. A solid WR threat would open up more opportunities for Davis, Crabtree, and Gore and the rest of the offense. I’d rather get someone in there Harbs could mold into the 49er identity then bring in a veteran with attitude problems. It only takes one bad apple to spoil the bunch.
by 49ersfanFURlife on Jan 27, 2012 9:17 AM PST up reply actions
We will get neither.
V-Jax has said he wants to stay in San Diego. And DeSean will get paid somewhere else. He’s also not the type of character that fits this team.
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btw, kudos to the 49ers front office
Took a quick look at their numbers for 2012. They have about $46m in cap space (obviously, part of that needs to go to Alex, Goldson (or his replacement), and WRs (Ginn, Morgan, Swain all FAs), among others, but that seems like a pretty solid situation, as compared, say, to the Jets.
46 million
Wow that’s like 1/3 of the cap space.
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by manraj7 on Jan 27, 2012 9:30 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
cap space
They had somewhere in the neighborhood of $16M this year (ninercaphell.com) and with all the free agents, it’s a big number.
by David Fucillo on Jan 27, 2012 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
Wow
So much room to work with everything. We basically need to resign Alex Smith and Adam Snyder and essentially our offense will be exactly where it was this year.
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made this point before, but...
I’m 90% sure that the new CBA allows teams to roll their left over salary cap from one year to the next. The niners left $11 million on the table this year, meaning they have as much as 57 millon in cap space next year. $60 million if they release Spencer.
by ninerspride on Jan 27, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
With this FO
The team could pretty much keep all the right pieces they’ve already assembled and plug in upgrades pretty much anywhere they want with that amount of money. And probably still have some left over. I hope thats the case.
by 49ersfanFURlife on Jan 27, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
Even better
the 49ers don’t have a ton of free agents leaving after the 2012-2013 season (the biggest one is Andy Lee, which is saying something.) So this team has a lot of money to play with this offseason, a great long-term financial outlook, and a solid core of players already signed to the team. They could have a championship-caliber roster for years to come.
by ninerspride on Jan 27, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
morgan!
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 27, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
oh ya him too
but as a group they shouldn’t cost too much.
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jets lol; raiders also
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 27, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
For everyone saying that OL is our biggest need next to WR...
Please look at the OLB and S positions. Also keep in mind, Colin Jones was listed as a WR for the NFCCG. Our depth at some positions is terrible without FA
OL is solid w ???
At this point, I think our interior (assuming we re-sign Rachal) is awesome. The tackles are OK, with some upside, but let’s be honest: we’re not replacing Davis or Staley. So other than depth, I’m not sure why anyone would think OL is a need.
Get rid of Rachal!
That guy is dead weight on this team, every time he came in the game, the 49ers pass coverage broke down with consistency. We need to cut him and sign a solid OL from FA or bring up one of the young guys on the practive squad. When Goodwin got hurt Snyder had to play Center and they brought in Rachal and we instantly had problems pass protecting. Sign a veteran starter for RG and keep Snyder for depth.
by 49ersfanFURlife on Jan 27, 2012 9:25 AM PST up reply actions
Rachal is not coming back...................I hope not!!
Now if you had said Snyder then I would be in agreement
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Jan 27, 2012 9:57 AM PST up reply actions
"Rachal" and "awesome"
Should NEVER be used together in the same sentence. Ever. That dude is awful.
As good as our line looks at times, RG and maybe C could use a look at upgrading. If Snyder leaves, we need a RG starter ASAP.
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by Blank x2 on Jan 27, 2012 10:15 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
What's to say Kilgore isn't that guy?
I know he’s definitely a ? but other teams in this league are taking later round guys for interior on the OL, so why does it seem like we are the only team to constantly take 1st and 2nd round linemen to be considered “good?”
by 9thevolution on Jan 27, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
Can't agree with Rachal coming back...
And I think if the team sees a mid round guy as a potential future starter, then that is a good pick, but I don’t see the need to drop another 1st rounder for a RG when there aren’t a whole lot of teams in the league constantly taking interior linemen early. It says something about the FO or OL coaches if most teams are selecting later round guys for interior OL and they’re consistantly better than our early picks
by 9thevolution on Jan 27, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
Why would you assume we'll resign Rachal?
What could possibly have led you to that?
"It might be time to give Alex some credit, huh?" - Harbaugh
Im curious if possibly putting Boone at RT and trying to slide Davis into RG
I think we will let Dashon walk, he’s going to command big money this offseason. I’m more concerned with resigning Brooks over him. I would love to see a combo of signing Bowe and drafting a WR, possibly Dwight Jones out of UNC. We def need to get Rogers a new deal as well as Reggie Smith. I feel Reggie could take over for Dashon without much big play difference, before he got injured in camp he was slotted to be the starter and was getting a lot of talk. I also believe Terrell Brown and Culliver are gonna fight out for the # 2 corner and whover gets it will be more that adequate. Culliver could also be our answer at FS, his position his senior year at SC
If we could snag a good CB to go with Rogers and Brown
Culliver at FS could be interesting. I forgot he played FS his senior year.
Could be fun to watch.
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by Blank x2 on Jan 27, 2012 10:16 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
He played corner his senior year
played S otherwise
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franchise tag!
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 27, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
Why does nobody else see this?
It is the smartest move by far to franchise him. We have no other player that would even merit the tag, and it’s only $6m for Goldson. It’s not as if we’re using it on a QB or OLB who is going to command $20 or $12 million. Baalke would be an incredible fool to not use the tag immediately once we could and worry about working out a deal later.
by 9thevolution on Jan 27, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
rogers may also be a candidate for the franchise tag; one of them will get it. Hope they can sign rogers long term and franchise goldson this year.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 27, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
I didn't consider Rogers for the tag because I fully believe he is under a contract before FA opens
Besides, even if Rogers doesn’t have a contract, I still give the tag to Goldson. Look at the safety position compared to CB and tell me who would be a bigger loss; Rogers or Goldson? I’m not too confident in Colin Jones or LeGree as our starting FS next year.
by 9thevolution on Jan 27, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
You think Reggie Smith can take over for Dashon?
Reg was terrible this year. He was terrible in coverage, always out of position.
"It might be time to give Alex some credit, huh?" - Harbaugh
No No, Just No
Reggie Smith is a horrible football player that the FO has quietly told to find other opportunities.
Dashon will sign or he will cost us 6.2 million, the franchise number for safeties.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
Just looking at the depth chart...
It’s fairly easy to see the Niners have needs at WR, FS, G and need for depth in the interior O-Line positions, ILB and OLB.
Puts the perceived need for a RB in perspective, IMO. More of a “nice to have” than a “need to have” at this point. But one of these off-seasons, the Niners are going to have to face the inconvenient truth of Gore needing a true successor.
Strangely, I’m far more at ease seeing Kaep and Tolzien at QB than I thought I would be. Although I think Alex is a lock for returning as starter in 2012.
I think next year
would be a good time to draft a “successor” to Gore if Hunter cant prove that he is capable of doing the job. Either way though I think it would be good to have a thunder and lightening combo in the back field and Gore isn’t getting any younger. Besides, RB’s take a lot of beating and their careers are usually shorter anyway compared to other positions. I also think we need a replacement for Dixon this coming season.
by 49ersfanFURlife on Jan 27, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
A replacement for Dixon can be had undrafted or in the 5th/6th round....
It’s when you fully want to commit to replacing Gore that you start looking at a RB earlier. Unless you are lucky and strike gold and sign Arian Foster as a UDFA, then we don’t need to start looking at replacing Gore this year. Gore can last another year if his carries are decresed a bit more, but that’s about it. Unless we find a real late round Gem this year, then in 2013 we need to draft a replacement.
by 9thevolution on Jan 27, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
I think something is up with gore and it is obvious that gore is losing speed and he will be another year older next year. I would put rb higher than wr.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 27, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
If we sign a top FA WR, then I'd put RB above WR in the draft...
Without signing Bowe, then WR is still more important.
by 9thevolution on Jan 27, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
No question that that we need to look for Frank's ultimate replacement ...
Neither Hunter or Dixon can become “the guy” … but for very different reasons.
To me the issue is that the 2013 draft class of RBs will be about 3X this year’s very limited group … if we can hang on until next year’s draft we can get a really primo replacement.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Jan 27, 2012 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
this year’s running back group is better than last years and there are some good running backs available in this years draft.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 28, 2012 12:48 AM PST up reply actions
no free agent wr is going to do anything special
bowe’s numbers will go down with alex smith as his qb. it is not the wr fault for 0-13 or 1-13 on third down!
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 28, 2012 12:47 AM PST up reply actions
Yup , 1 -13 is bestowed upon ONE player , love your tunnel vision ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
Really excited about
the prospect of us getting in a free agent WR hopefully V. Jackson and then drafting a WR like Sanu and then having Crab be 3rd WR lining up in the slot : )
But a top tier WR whether through the draft or FA would/should be option 1. Kyle Williams will be our shifty/quick slot guy, Crabtree will be our #2. I think it is honestly what they were trying to achieve with Braylon. Except that Braylon sucks and is a locker room cancer. If we get more threat on the outside, our TE schemes will improve, running game will improve. Secondary help is imperitive, Goldson is still the best option at his position, but Madieu Williams didn’t even provide good depth. Adam Snyder should get re-signed and a mid round pick used for interior line depth. The Mizzou Smiths provide excellent pass rush, but we could use a little more help with getting pressure up the middle. QBs were tearing us up by simply stepping up in the pocket. Sopoaga is good against the run, but a dominant Nose tackle would be great. So, there are about a dozen different ways this team could go, but based on how last years FAs and draft picks blossomed, I’m going to be content with whatever Baalke and Harbaugh drum up.
by linkovitch on Jan 30, 2012 2:29 PM PST via mobile reply actions

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